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 Abolish UPSR and PMR , Do u Agree ? Come Vote

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violette
post May 26 2009, 07:42 PM

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haih. exams=burden. but then we have to face it somehow sweat.gif
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post May 26 2009, 07:44 PM

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UPSR and PMR need to study meh.
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post May 26 2009, 09:58 PM

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IMHO, No need do abolish la. The exams will determine students level. So, if the student can't score in UPSR, He will try hard for PMR and SPM. And so do on.
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post May 26 2009, 10:16 PM

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upsr i really dont see what the point.. if fail then waste extra 1 year? should really abolish upsr.. no one really see or care about it.. form 1 no scholarship also..

pmr is for choosing stream i think.. arts or science streams during form 4..

spm for go college.. this one need.. scholarship..
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post May 26 2009, 10:20 PM

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Bro..i wish to corect ur statement..there is scholarship for upsr scorer.. look at >> http://ytm.tm.com.my/index.cfm?ytm=page.op...EBC3&click=menu btw pmr determines which stream r u goin n this is quite important bcoz it decides wad r u gonna study for the nex 2years..spm is mor important s spm cn decides ur future..especially if u get to go oversea for free..u cn save alot
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post May 26 2009, 10:45 PM

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I don't think there's such need to abolish UPSR or PMR. Since primary school students have studied 6 years, there should be a formal examination to certify their academic achievements. UPSR provides a clear aim for the students, although studying is not solely to score in exams, but it too provides mental preparation for the students for their future exams such as PMR or SPM. Though people now don't actually care about UPSR, but in my opinion it's important as it can promote positive competition among students, as well as setting a standard for the secondary schools to sort the students according to ranking or result in classes.

UPSR/PMR should not be taken as a kind of extortion, it should be taken seriously! But I don't think there's such need for UPSR leavers/Form 1 students to get any scholarship, since Form 1 doesn't really have much fee to pay except some annual fee (since textbooks now is already rented by the government)...
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post May 26 2009, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(zellleonhart @ May 26 2009, 10:45 PM)
I don't think there's such need to abolish UPSR or PMR. Since primary school students have studied 6 years, there should be a formal examination to certify their academic achievements. UPSR provides a clear aim for the students, although studying is not solely to score in exams, but it too provides mental preparation for the students for their future exams such as PMR or SPM. Though people now don't actually care about UPSR, but in my opinion it's important as it can promote positive competition among students, as well as setting a standard for the secondary schools to sort the students according to ranking or result in classes.

UPSR/PMR should not be taken as a kind of extortion, it should be taken seriously! But I don't think there's such need for UPSR leavers/Form 1 students to get any scholarship, since Form 1 doesn't really have much fee to pay except some annual fee (since textbooks now is already rented by the government)...
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Bro i wish to corect part of ur statement..yes..form 1 there is nt much fees student hv to pay..bt hw bout thoz who wanna go to private school? getting a scholarship cn save $$..y not? smile.gif
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post May 26 2009, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(CuteSanSan @ May 26 2009, 10:50 PM)
Bro i wish to corect part of ur statement..yes..form 1 there is nt much fees student hv to pay..bt hw bout thoz who wanna go to private school? getting a scholarship cn save $$..y not?  smile.gif
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Among 10 form-1-student-to-be how many will go for private school? I can say at most 1. Those who select private school are most probably the rich ones. Normal family with normal income will go for Sekolah Menengah kebangsaan or chinese private school. Yes, Chinese private school like chung hwa or Tsun Jin needs to pay monthly fee which may be a burden to certain families, scholarship should be given to those poor and eligible ones, but back to the main point, this DOES NOT have anything to do with the abolish of UPSR. I am also from a poor family, I know how precious is scholarship =) but no scholarship = abolish UPSR, that doesn't make sense at all.
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post May 27 2009, 12:25 AM

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LOL....even though i finished the 2 exams but i still vote for abolish PMR xD but not UPSR
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post May 27 2009, 12:33 AM

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when did i say no scholarship = abolish UPSR ? lolx.. that is nt my statement..make ur fact str8 plz
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post May 27 2009, 05:58 PM

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wat u do to the student if thers no major exam ??
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post May 27 2009, 06:36 PM

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I think PMR could be abolish........but not UPSR......

UPSR is the exam you use it to enter secondary school, and it's also the exam where you can finally put in 6 years of efforts in it........

PMR......well, I can't think of any use of it....other than transferring to a better school.......

SPM is way more important than PMR........
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post May 27 2009, 06:42 PM

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hmm i don't think it should be abolished.
i think its a good indicator on the students progress.
however i think the exam standards are quite low now .
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post May 27 2009, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(CuteSanSan @ May 27 2009, 12:33 AM)
when did i say no scholarship = abolish UPSR ? lolx.. that is nt my statement..make ur fact str8 plz
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Sorry sorry.. I have mistaken your words =) We should support those companies who give scholarships anyway.
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post May 27 2009, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(zellleonhart @ May 27 2009, 06:45 PM)
Sorry sorry.. I have mistaken your words =) We should support those companies who give scholarships anyway.
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icon_rolleyes.gif peace peace, v r on the same line, haha, abolish major exams is nt a gd move, bt abolish moral in SPM is a gd move, haha
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post May 27 2009, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(CuteSanSan @ May 27 2009, 06:50 PM)
icon_rolleyes.gif  peace peace, v r on the same line, haha, abolish major exams is nt a gd move, bt abolish moral in SPM is a gd move, haha
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Indeed! Moral studies in SPM is nothing but a crap. Memorizing the 36 moral values is pure waste of time... I rather study more chapters of sejarah =)
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QUOTE(zellleonhart @ May 27 2009, 07:04 PM)
Indeed! Moral studies in SPM is nothing but a crap. Memorizing the 36 moral values is pure waste of time... I rather study more chapters of sejarah =)
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yeap, students memorize it purely jz for exam, after that??? 'choi kui dou ngong' ! haha..summor the marking scheme is so tough, purposely wn us slack 1 A
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post May 27 2009, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(CuteSanSan @ May 27 2009, 07:20 PM)
yeap, students memorize it purely jz for exam, after that??? 'choi kui dou ngong' ! haha..summor the marking scheme is so tough, purposely wn us slack 1 A
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Ya the marking scheme is strict, although I got A1 last year XD
It's easy only if you really memorized all values 100% tepat, and you know which moral value to put in each different incident. And the format sucks, must nilai, penerangan, contoh, penerangan, contoh. So stereotype! And spell wrong nilai 0 mark...

My friend not so lucky, he gets all A1 except moral B3, screwed up his cert..
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post May 27 2009, 07:35 PM

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hmm i think that we should have big exam
therefore student can be prepaid and know where is their level compared to others
btw no big exam?no fun meh

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post May 27 2009, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(zellleonhart @ May 27 2009, 07:30 PM)
Ya the marking scheme is strict, although I got A1 last year XD
It's easy only if you really memorized all values 100% tepat, and you know which moral value to put in each different incident. And the format sucks, must nilai, penerangan, contoh, penerangan, contoh. So stereotype! And spell wrong nilai 0 mark...

My friend not so lucky, he gets all A1 except moral B3, screwed up his cert..
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haha i also got A1 for moral SPM, u r totaly rite, wads da purpose???? no meaning at all man, jz hafal hafal like hell, fil sory for ur fren doh.gif

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