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post Aug 6 2008, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(sweetsnoopy99 @ Aug 6 2008, 02:57 PM)
I WANNA ASK WHEN THE KITTEN WILL START WALKING?

I SAW M MUMMY AT SHE ALWAYS LIKE TO SIT N MY YARD OR NEAR MY DOOR STEP I AM SCARED THIS WILL MAKE HER NIPPLES A BIT DIRTY,CAN I CLEAN HER NIPPLES WITH WATER FROM TIME TO TIME SINCE SHE IS STILL GIVING BREAST FEEDING?

WHAT IS THE FAMOUS DEBASE THAT ATTACK small kitten
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walking perfectly? above 1 month of age. before that they will crawl or unstable walk.

yes you can clean the nipples, if your cat want that part to be touch. not all cats like to be touch with warm/wet towel thoughts. so you can clean it if you cat have no problem with cleaning. just use water, don't put any shampoo or chemical.

you mean what kind of attack? if sickness, it can be anything. just like human baby. very easy to get infect by all types of sickness. Small kitten body system is not as strong as adult cat. Again, here come the genetic issues which we (human) hardly to know. Because it is very hard to track our cat family generation genetics.... if you have FIV and FIP cat in the household, high possibility all cat will have FIV and FIP.
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post Aug 6 2008, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(tartputat @ Aug 6 2008, 03:59 PM)
yes..i agree..my male cat also had bladder problem before but since i change to royal canin brand the problem is solved..but if the whiskas or frieskies is bad to our cat it will not sold nation wide..like elfreakz said..different cat different luck tongue.gif
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yes true tartputat, if whiskas and frieskies is so bad, i'm pretty sure the world animal food federation will BAN it right. but look at it, whiskas and frieskies is like 2 brand that have been in the market for such along time. even have their own tv advertise ehehehe...

spend money with what you can afford smile.gif

Death is not us to decide ok smile.gif
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post Aug 6 2008, 09:53 PM

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im planning to go back my hometown Sarawak..and to bring my cat along will cost me too much than i can afford..anyone care to take good care of my dudu?
Attached Image <---very sweet and cute..always sleeping and will kiss u on the lips..only if he knows u enough..or else..too shy to meet strangers!


Added on August 6, 2008, 9:54 pmanyone who can give me advise on pet on plane?i dun wan to be apart with my dudu..

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post Aug 6 2008, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(~bsj~ @ Aug 6 2008, 09:53 PM)
im planning to go back my hometown Sarawak..and to bring my cat along will cost me too much than i can afford..anyone care to take good care of my dudu?
Attached Image <---very sweet and cute..always sleeping and will kiss u on the lips..only if he knows u enough..or else..too shy to meet strangers!


Added on August 6, 2008, 9:54 pmanyone who can give me advise on pet on plane?i dun wan to be apart with my dudu..
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I think it is better to call MAS hotline for this matter.
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post Aug 6 2008, 11:11 PM

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already..i scared i cant afford it..i saw the thread in lowyat..and i scared that they will quarantine my dudu and body check up will cost me thousands..i cant afford that.. cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif

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post Aug 7 2008, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(~bsj~ @ Aug 6 2008, 11:11 PM)
already..i scared i cant afford it..i saw the thread in lowyat..and i scared that they will quarantine my dudu and body check up will cost me thousands..i cant afford that.. cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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there's someone mention it cost not more than RM300...

you need to get permit for your cat to enter Sarawak, i think u need to get it from jabatan haiwan in sarawak also. because you cross the "sempadan" already. then you need to bring cat for medical check up, just go to jabatan haiwan - the goverment one... cheaper.. then tell them that your cat need to travel. they may give some tips on it.

then when you purchase your MAS ticket, you need to tell them that you have animal onboard. so they know what to do. MAS will charge per KG for animal... you must have your own carrier and everything.
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sorry guys!

wanna ask i think my cat reli got ringworm. i found out it got 2 bean size small patches.

wat med can cure? i currently put apple cider on its foods n drinking water, n oso apply some on ringworm.
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QUOTE(silentz @ Aug 7 2008, 11:08 AM)
sorry guys!

wanna ask i think my cat reli got ringworm. i found out it got 2 bean size small patches.

wat med can cure? i currently put apple cider on its foods n drinking water, n oso apply some on ringworm.
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I went to Pet Lovers Centre in Sunway Pyramid last two days and I found this.

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Its called Ilium Fungafite Antifungal Cream. RM25 (good thing there is a visible price sticker on it).
This product is used for ringworm infection due to Microsporum and Trichophyton. Not sure these are the types of ringworm that your cat's having now.
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QUOTE(spidergirl @ Aug 7 2008, 11:38 AM)
I went to Pet Lovers Centre in Sunway Pyramid last two days and I found this.

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Its called Ilium Fungafite Antifungal Cream. RM25 (good thing there is a visible price sticker on it).
This product is used for ringworm infection due to Microsporum and Trichophyton. Not sure these are the types of ringworm that your cat's having now.
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i think no prbl since its an anti-fungal cream. Microsporum and Trichophyton is type of fungi.
mabbe i got to wait sat only free to pet shop.
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post Aug 7 2008, 01:18 PM

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question : if i were to get 2 cats. would it be best to have them same gender or diff gender? no intention to breed. just want to make sure they don't fight.

*all the while i have 1 cat only. never more than 1 in the house unless the fella give birth. so now if i want to get 2 cat, i want to know what's best combo lor*
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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Aug 7 2008, 12:14 AM)
there's someone mention it cost not more than RM300...

you need to get permit for your cat to enter Sarawak, i think u need to get it from jabatan haiwan in sarawak also. because you cross the "sempadan" already. then you need to bring cat for medical check up, just go to jabatan haiwan - the goverment one... cheaper.. then tell them that your cat need to travel. they may give some tips on it.

then when you purchase your MAS ticket, you need to tell them that you have animal onboard. so they know what to do. MAS will charge per KG for animal... you must have your own carrier and everything.
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do u hv any idea how much the check up will cost if go to the government one?
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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Aug 7 2008, 12:14 AM)
there's someone mention it cost not more than RM300...

you need to get permit for your cat to enter Sarawak, i think u need to get it from jabatan haiwan in sarawak also. because you cross the "sempadan" already. then you need to bring cat for medical check up, just go to jabatan haiwan - the goverment one... cheaper.. then tell them that your cat need to travel. they may give some tips on it.

then when you purchase your MAS ticket, you need to tell them that you have animal onboard. so they know what to do. MAS will charge per KG for animal... you must have your own carrier and everything.
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we dont haf to quarantine for 6 months issit? i heard sumwhere, we need to quarantine them for 6 months before hand.

anyone who noes the full detail how to bring an animal into sarawak. plisz share
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Aug 7 2008, 01:18 PM)
question : if i were to get 2 cats. would it be best to have them same gender or diff gender? no intention to breed. just want to make sure they don't fight.

*all the while i have 1 cat only. never more than 1 in the house unless the fella give birth. so now if i want to get 2 cat, i want to know what's best combo lor*
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the best is to get 2 kitten from the same age smile.gif they grew up together, and getting to know more about both together.

male vs. male is not a good sign, but if you get 2 male cat when they are young, 50% chances you get 2 male good friends.

male vs. female is 50 - 50. some female can be very fears. some not. so this is depends on luck.

the best for me, if you want 2 or more cats, get them since kitten with the same age.

if you have adult cat now, and you want another male cat, try to get younger male cat. but don't get older or the same age male cat with yours now. else 80% you get world war III in your house eheheheheh.

you can also get female cat.. if you do not have the intention to breed... spay/neuter them... they can be very good and tame.
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QUOTE(~bsj~ @ Aug 7 2008, 02:09 PM)
do u hv any idea how much the check up will cost if go to the government one?
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i get some info here. but you need to double check it again ok smile.gif

1. apply export permit from jabatan haiwan
2. apply import permit jabatan haiwan kuching
3. Health certificate from vet...to show your cat is healthy. Enough vaccine since born. you need to check with jabatan haiwan about this health certificate.. i don't think it will be so expense.. they maybe need to check you cat vaccine book and vets history. if you cat ever go to a vet, ask that vet to photo copy your cat medical history. then bring it to jabatan haiwan and show them.
4. when you buy your MAS ticket, during the reservation you need to inform the counter that you have livestock (cat) with you.
5. during the day you fly, bring along the cat to the check in counter. lock your the carrier....
6. they said RM8.10 per kg... so if you cat is 5kg, so you need to pay 5kg x RM8.10 for his/her ticket smile.gif
7. once you arrive at your destination, someone will let you know about your cat, sometimes they check on the permit, sometimes they don't do it. since they check earlier in KL. but im pretty sure sarawak will check the permit, because its a very strict states tongue.gif
8. within malaysia NO QUARANTINE (u need to double check this again).

hope its help.. again, double check with MAS/Jabatan Haiwan.


Added on August 7, 2008, 4:32 pm
QUOTE(annetize @ Aug 7 2008, 02:53 PM)
we dont haf to quarantine for 6 months issit? i heard sumwhere, we need to quarantine them for 6 months before hand.

anyone who noes the full detail how to bring an animal into sarawak. plisz share
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early this year i did ask about it, yes they also told me 6 months quarantine...

but the above info i get is the one from 2 months ago. not sure if they change it again. so need to double check again.

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i have question to ask,lastime 2 month ago i bought the science plan it cost me 70 from shop in putrajaya, and now suddenly increase the price to 84, i wanna ask is science plan increase their price also,
anyone live around putrajaya or cyberjaya here ?
from which shop u buy your cats food?


another thing? what is the different between iams,RC,SP and other brand since my cats are Persians


when do i have to deworm the kitten and vaccinate them?


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QUOTE(sweetsnoopy99 @ Aug 7 2008, 05:01 PM)
i have question to ask,lastime 2 month ago i bought the science plan it cost me 70 from shop in putrajaya, and now suddenly increase the price to 84, i wanna ask is science plan increase their price also,
anyone live around putrajaya or cyberjaya  here ?
from which shop u buy your cats food?
another thing? what is the different between iams,RC,SP and other brand since my cats are Persians
when do i have to deworm the kitten and vaccinate them?
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Yep all cats food increase. RC, Iams, Proformance, SP, other brands too. That's the reality smile.gif last time i always get my Proformance at the pet shop and vet in taman warisan (can't remember the name place, warisan or something), its look like food court too.

RC, IAMS, SP are all the same. unless if Orijen and Innova Evo.. then there's different.

deworm start at the age of 6 weeks, then 8 week, then 12 weeks.. after that you can choose to go for every 3 or 6 months.

Vaccine start at the age of 2 month old and 3 months old. after that follow by one time a year.

hope that's help nod.gif
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Aug 7 2008, 02:18 PM)
question : if i were to get 2 cats. would it be best to have them same gender or diff gender? no intention to breed. just want to make sure they don't fight.

*all the while i have 1 cat only. never more than 1 in the house unless the fella give birth. so now if i want to get 2 cat, i want to know what's best combo lor*
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I can tell you based from my experience.

Chapter 1: I started out adopting one female, one male (bro and sis) since they were born and at very young age, they were sent for neutering. Seems no prob for me, they love each other and yes, they fight (play) sometimes.

Chapter 2: 9 yrs later, the male cat died of jaundice. Only left is the female, now 11 yr old. A year later, I adopted another stray, a male cat about 2 or 3 yrs of age. The new cat was a friendly cat , maybe too friendly (he tried to 'flirt' with my female cat) cos he wasn't neutered yet during his first 2 weeks here. It took about 6 months to get my female cat used to the presence of the male cat. They never yet gone to a point where they lick each other, but at least they're no hissing anymore. That happens when you have an Alpha cat around the house, lol.

Some say that its better to get young kittens as they're easily acquainted compared to old cats. That again, depends on their personality. I can't tell you how its like with two same gender together. 2 females (neutered) are good in a way cos they will not erm, do it with each other. If un-neutered males will result them to fighting with each other esp. when they try to win a female cat. If neutered, should be fine I guess.
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QUOTE(sweetsnoopy99 @ Aug 7 2008, 06:01 PM)
i have question to ask,lastime 2 month ago i bought the science plan it cost me 70 from shop in putrajaya, and now suddenly increase the price to 84, i wanna ask is science plan increase their price also,
anyone live around putrajaya or cyberjaya  here ?
from which shop u buy your cats food?
another thing? what is the different between iams,RC,SP and other brand since my cats are Persians
when do i have to deworm the kitten and vaccinate them?
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Wah, there's a pet shop in Putra? I didn't know that.

You can buy commercial cat food like Whiskas and Friskies in Cyberia Mini Mart or Petronas Mesra for Cyber area. And as for Putra is Carrefour.

If you wanna go for premium cat food, the closest is Seri Kembangan area. Go to Baby Pets clinic or St Angel Animal (both near Jaya Jusco Tmn Equine). I've been to Baby Pets to check on my cat last time. Nice docs!

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young kitten is easy to teach... its very hard to train the adult to behave.

neuter or spay will not change the number one characteristic - which is territory protection. even neutered female will smack down un-neutered female.

even if you spay the male, they will still hunt down other male.

that is the reason why you need to know the genetic. bad behavior genetic is very hard to maintain.

one of my female neutered cat never like other cats. the only cats she can be with is her own brother and the other 2 adult that she saw and be with when she grew up.

one of my male spayed cat is very good with other cat, but hate so much another male spayed cat. see, both of them are spayed and they still behave like slapping each other. they have been together in a house almost 1 year now. and believe it or not, i can never tell if they become BFF or not. seem like they don't like each other till death tongue.gif lucky the other one, will surrender if things getting bad.

if one cat is a fighter, and other one is a surrender = then this will reduce fight.

if you have both fighter, then very hard lah eheheheh.. the never ending story.

anyway Fight to be hero is what animal do anyway. not even cat, even monkey will fight over territory.

my oldest cat which is 4 years old is a good boy. he never hiss at any cat. and another female mix persian age 2 years old behave very good. Proven that, persian breed will always produce good behavior. Please don't try this at home tongue.gif

after deep study about this fighting cats, i found out both the background comes from a fighter cat types.

if you happened want to breed this type of cats, better stop doing it. after research and study, i found out that in 1 litter, there will be genetic follower. it will be worst if both father and mother has behavior problem matters.

in cattery, breeder will neutered/spayed their breed cat in order to stop producing bad behavior cat which may lead to un-perfect show cat.

the best way are:
- get to know your cat smile.gif is he/she ever meet other cat? if NO - you better start introducing him/her to practice meeting other cats. don't jump to the conclusion of getting it now and bring it straight home.
- second, if you plan to adopt a cat from friends, try bring your cat to your friends house for first introduction. see how your cat works with other cat. beside you can see the background of that cat.

getting 2 or more cats together took a long time. i success in making some of my cat become BFF, some will never be like what i want it to be tongue.gif but im stil lucky that in a fight there will always be white flag of surrender sign. so it stop instantly tongue.gif

so be patient, try to get younger cat better.

very hight percentage people successful making 2 or more cats become BFF.
small percentage fail, to make one.

so then, get to know your cat is a better way. if you know he/she is a type that do not like strangers... better don't try it a home, because you may have a new cat that feel like living in prison with gangster tongue.gif

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Aug 7 2008, 01:18 PM)
question : if i were to get 2 cats. would it be best to have them same gender or diff gender? no intention to breed. just want to make sure they don't fight.

*all the while i have 1 cat only. never more than 1 in the house unless the fella give birth. so now if i want to get 2 cat, i want to know what's best combo lor*
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If male and male, get ready for something...
Male and female, at a certain age, they will become gila sex and rape anyone in their eyes
Female and female, quite ok, just don't trust 100%

Kittens is the best tho.

But if you already neuter it(if you intend to get cats not kittens) fine la
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QUOTE(abang brother @ Aug 7 2008, 08:53 PM)
If male and male, get ready for something...
Male and female, at a certain age, they will become gila sex and rape anyone in their eyes
Female and female, quite ok, just don't trust 100%

Kittens is the best tho.

But if you already neuter it(if you intend to get cats not kittens) fine la
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Gila sex. Haha. That's funny, but yes, that's quite true somehow. The new cat that I brought home actually had some 'miang' moments where he tried to go out to the whole neighborhood and search for female cats. With his 3 legged condition, he still strive to go out, roam around, and injured his left arm where he dragged his dysfunctional leg all the way. Cis.

Now he's half a man. Haha.
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Check out his right hand, got one dot. Still cannot heal cos the scab keeps renewing itself after he 'geser' his hand on the ground. Aih.

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