because he wanted to go to chelsea badly...

maybe the wages offered there higher?

the way too greedy...

Next up will be RM in action against Deportivo. Should be an exciting match to come!

did u take note of his claims? he tried to get his contract renewed many times before, but madrid didn't show any urgency.
but they did start to take notice when their transfer targets slipped away. (http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/...ual_124157.html)
for a player who's never had any major problems with the club to suddenly claim he's determined to leave, obviously something really bad happened. to me, it seems he does have a case here. a player doesn't just suddenly decide to leave right? its a culmination of events that has upset him big time.

Deportivo La Coruna 2 - 1 Real Madrid FT.

Barca went down to Numancia as well.

final score... we lose 2 -1
i didnt expect too much for this match..
again... 17 season no win at riazor..

not a happy ground for Madrid at Riazor...
btw, a good performance by Guardado & DeGuzman...
in 2-3 years both surely will transfer to bigger club...

Lack of width, Robben really quite tonite while Deportivo keeper really good. Upset in first day of La Liga and Serie A

I quite agree with that..ther were once a time when RM wanted to swipe him for Ronaldo..For a player,it shows that the team doesnt need him anymore,and maybe,i said maybe..thats the reason why he was upset and want to leave immediately.RM is a big team wher all players around the world are in pursuit to be in it.But seems like he's the only person who wanted,obviously wanted to get away and out of the team is quite confusing.
Maybe we shud put ourselv in his shoes..

No offense as I 've noticed that both of you are Chelsea fans. So, it doesn't surprise me at all by your opinions.

To be honest, media are shite. They write all sorts of crap and manipulated that what can be said by any player ages ago. Take Vidic's case on this, around sometime last week, out of nowhere there were articles saying Vidic hates playing for Manchester and wants to go to Spain. What the hell? He has been winning trophies here, he seems to be comfortable with his teammates and all, suddenly he's saying crap?

In all truth, he did say he was having a horrid time with Manchester's weather condition initially, that was when he first arrived there. He seems fine now.

Some on United fans are rejoicing on what's happening to Madrid. Madrid currently taste what we once had with Ronaldo. The difference is, Ronaldo never went out and declare his interests in a press conference. It was a hard summer for us, United fans. Our best player is being courted and tapped by Madrid. Calderon can't say anything about being a 'slave' now, can him?

But, no player is bigger than the club. That is one fact for any club to held on. Personally, I would love to see Robinho plays in BPL and how he can cope with it. I'm on Madrid's side. No club wants to sell their asset. Robinho is a good player. Madrid knows that they need him. But then again, anything could happen.

Now, I wonder what would have happened if Lampard and Drogba call up for press conferences and saying their interests aren't with Chelsea anymore?

Hah first of all his claims are bullshit. He conveniently forgets to mention that he has still 2 years left on his contract. Since when does a club have an obligation to just give in to a player's demands when he has still time on his contract? But what would a Chelsea fan know about that right

As much speculation as the media made about Ronaldo and Robinho the club has never said that they wanted to sell him. We have tried to give him a pay rise of abt 4.5ME per year but he rejected it because he wanted more money. We sure as hell ain't going to offer the 6ME per year he was asking as that would put him in the same wage bracket as Raul and Casillas. And he sure as hell doesn't deserve that kind of money seeing as hasn't even put one full season of consistent form like the likes of Ronaldo, Kaka or Ronaldinho. But again Chelsea are a special case ain't it.

And as for this...seriously by trying to look like you even keep tabs of what happens in Real Madrid it is an insult. I should just tell u to GTFO and be done with that. But seeing as I'm in a good mood...Robinho has been whining over the past year for a pay rise. That's what he meant by "my agent has gone so many times". It's nothing about whether we wanted to keep him. It was about more money. And he hasn't always been thoroughly professional. The condom incident anyone? And seeing that Schuster was the one who has backed him since day one and even protected him after that incident. Attacking Schuster in the press conference was one of nastiest backstabs I've seen a player done. Still questioning me questioning his questionable attitude then are we?

So now...GTFO.


On another note...seems like our curse in the Riazor continues :(

This post has been edited by verx: Sep 1 2008, 09:55 AM

well like i said, its my opinion. obviously u know more about the player than i do being a madrid fan and such. about the condom incident (which he denied right?) yes i heard but like boxsystem said before, the media could've been cooking up stuff again. two years isn't a long time and its normal wanting to secure your long term future as it shows you want to stay. but of course some of you would say he's greedy more than anything else for wanting a bigger paypacket. it is called an 'improved' contract for a reason.
and somehow its hard to believe ALL his claims are bull.
but to put it simply only God knows if they are as neither me nor u actually knows robinho personally. and its safe to say we don't play for madrid either.
so chillax mate. its just my personal observation of how things are developing. i still stand by it though.
and boxsystem if lamps or drogs publicly declared they want to leave, my theory stands. some serious incidents or conflicts must've took place that lead to that.

Fact: He arrived late for training after international week with Brazil. He was caught partying into the wee hours where he was caught with condoms. There was nothing to deny and he didn't deny it. Schuster came out to defend him saying he was a player that needed to be loved to succeed. Since that day his form improved tremendously for a period of abt 3-4 mths before he got injured. Schuster was largely credited with Robinho suddenly achieving his potential for Madrid.

Fact: After he got injured he skipped rehabilitation sessions and took longer than expected to recover. When he did recover his form was poor and was largely anonymous for the 2nd half of the season. Schuster still defended him and played him during this period.

He can take his piss at Calderon or Mijatovic but saying what he did about Schuster was just below the belt and very classless.

Fact: Ramos and Robinho wanted to renegotiate their contracts about the same time. Ramos accepted his extension. Robinho rejected his because he wanted more money. We put his negotiations on hold. Maybe if Ronaldo was brought to Madrid we would have sold Robinho because he such a headache for the management. BUT our negotiations for a transfer fee for Ronaldo HAS NOTHING to do with our negotiations with Robinho's contract extension or should have been the case but i guess Robinho thought otherwise

The only serious "incident" or "conflict" is Robinho not willing to accept a lower but still respectable wage for a player his age than what Chelsea are offering. And let's face it, he's not wanting to join Chelsea because of prestige or something; he's already in the biggest club in Europe.

And another fact: Your opinions and personal observations suck so u should just keep them to yourself.

Enjoy your 6ME per year cry baby. Cheers.

also epl w00t what a greatest weekend of upsets in european history

Even though I do agree with most of the points u mentioned here, i think Robinho' s act is understandable...at least a little...The fact that RM trying to buy Ronaldo by using Robinho as part of the deal is utter disrespect to the player...is like they are so keen to get rid of him...which is why he demands for a new contract despite he got another 2 years in front of him...he just wanna ensure his own future...nothing wrong with that...but RM refuse to renew his contract....
then when big club like chelsea came in, of course he did feel interested in moving there...

well, just my 2cents...well, i aint a chelsea fans...so, no offence...

I certainly feel offended if someone try to make me as a bait to lure another player...is like i m a rubbish they wish to get rid....how would u feel if u were him?Think from what his prospective..

my 0.02

This post has been edited by solstice818: Sep 1 2008, 09:35 PM

yeah solstice that's one of the things that must've pissed robinho off as well. someone here disagrees completely though
that's what i like about these forums. no matter how much your personal observations and opinions 'suck,' u can still post them up anyway
there's no suck 'o' meter that automatically deletes your post. cheerio!

wow, abusive...........

i'd like to be a thread starter and an elite, so that i can tell ppl to GTFO and tell them to keep their 2 cents up their arses where they belong........hell, that'd be fun!!

seems like robinho's leaving.........no complaints, just leave.......

Only problem is Robinho wanted that new contract since last year; way before the whole Ronaldo transfer saga started. And all the "using Robinho as a swap deal" came from media speculation. I can guarantee not once did the club officially say they wanted to sell him. Calderon and Schuster has always said they wanted Robinho to stay. Whether Calderon meant it is another matter but the official stance of the club was to keep him. Chelsea offered him a huge contract through his agent and that started this whole thing off. He wanted Madrid to match the offer. That was the thing that pissed him off.

@Kerplunk: I always encourage ppl to give their opinions. But yours are so baseless it's pointless to argue with u.

@kevraul: Geez. Some grudges never get old do they. Just let it go and grow up.

I don't know whether to laugh or pity your naivety, Ronaldo declared his intentions to join us publicly not only once but a few times through an interview with a Brazilian football website, quotes when he was with Portugal at the Euros and press conferences. It's just a matter of time before Ronaldo wears white.

I don't exactly rate Robinho, he's inconsistent like Guti. His shots are weak and his work rate is poor. The only reason he's still here is because Ronaldo is at Manchester and Cazorla is at Villareal.

The only fact is that if Robinho is going to continue to sulk and be a greedy ******* his value will only drop with only 2 seasons remaining on his contract. He has the talent no doubt, play well and show you are willing to win at all costs for Madrid and like Ramos, he'll then deserve a pay rise. Robinho has to make the complete transition from a show boater to a genuine world class winger, he's already half there and that's why if Chelsea do buy him tonight I don't rate him anywhere under 40 ME.