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winnie08
post Jun 28 2008, 01:13 AM

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Leong Forever,
I'm taking MCSE too... try http://www.sadikhov.com/forum/index.php?showforum=44

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post Jun 28 2008, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(Leong Forever @ Jun 27 2008, 03:49 PM)
Wei Jie,

Sorry I dunno read chinese.Any english recommended link
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Here is the English link.

http://www.examcollection.com/

I plan to take MCSA then only take MCSE, coz i think MCSE is too tough for me since i am fresh graduate.

After u all took the exam already, come to share with us ... rclxms.gif
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post Jun 28 2008, 10:51 AM

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hello... im planning to take mcsa and mcse for this moment. can anyone suggest me the right books to buy? plan to self student since no money..... sad.gif(
otyew
post Jun 28 2008, 02:41 PM

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hi all, actually last time i'm not sure getting certified is really tat important now cos currently, my company hired some 'mcse' certified engineer. instead of fixing things, they kept messing things up till the whole client network was down. and in the end, freshies clean up the mess.

but certainly i'll get one, but at least i would certified for the things i really understand. not for the sake of jus getting certified. wat u all think? last time degree was hot, now technical certifications.....


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post Jun 28 2008, 07:21 PM

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ya now u can saw any vacancy ads they requires this or that certs....make people feel like degree is not that important compare to this certs
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QUOTE(flance82 @ Jun 28 2008, 07:21 PM)
ya now u can saw any vacancy ads they requires this or that certs....make people feel like degree is not that important compare to this certs
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Degree now become a basic requirement for a IT job, those professional cert is like a demand in order to call for interview.
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post Jun 28 2008, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(clngu @ Jun 27 2008, 02:58 PM)
my specialty is involved Financial, Education and Vendor industries. Manufacturing not my area.

however, is best if you have Six Sigma certificate to support your career. and MBA/MSc programme to help you to move up the management ladder.
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How about those professional certificates that you mention? can I take it and will it be hard to cope despite having little computing background as those which took Computer science degree ?
Im still thinking whether to take BEng or MEng ... zzz in a tight dilemma..


QUOTE(clngu @ Jun 27 2008, 03:03 PM)
unless you want to be in technical field or be an engineer forever. if you want to take the role of managerial position, you need something else than technical qualifications.
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then MBA would be the right choice izzit ?
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post Jun 29 2008, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(asidz13 @ Jun 28 2008, 10:51 AM)
hello... im planning to take mcsa and mcse for this moment. can anyone suggest me the right books to buy? plan to self student since no money..... sad.gif(
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there is no so called "right" book to read. for example, I bought Microsoft offical press books to study. but sometimes I do not understand the contents. so I bought Sybex books as cross-reference. to me Sybex is easy to understand to my knowledge. however Sybex alone not sufficient. this is how I study.
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QUOTE(otyew @ Jun 28 2008, 02:41 PM)
hi all, actually last time i'm not sure getting certified is really tat important now cos currently, my company hired some 'mcse' certified engineer. instead of fixing things, they kept messing things up till the whole client network was down. and in the end, freshies clean up the mess.

but certainly i'll get one, but at least i would certified for the things i really understand. not for the sake of jus getting certified. wat u all think? last time degree was hot, now technical certifications.....
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academic degree the value is decreasing over the years. Bachelor degree is mean nothing even your CGPA scores 3.75 and above. academic degree becomes a necessity of career path. nowadays employer is looking at Master or PhD or Professional certificate the candidate holds.

for the sake of getting certified, some candidates do that. but they won't last long in the team.
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post Jun 29 2008, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(jasperng @ Jun 28 2008, 09:29 PM)
How about those professional certificates that you mention? can I take it and will it be hard to cope despite having little computing background as those which took Computer science degree ?
Im still thinking whether to take BEng or MEng ... zzz in a tight dilemma..
then MBA would be the right choice izzit ?
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you can take those professional certificates. the level of difficulties to understand the content is vary on individuals. i have no financial background yet i can self-study and pass CFA (the most prestige certificate in Accounting and Financial fields) Level 1.

you still need to take academic degree to move up in corporate ladder.

you can take both MEng and MBA. the more the merrier.
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post Jun 29 2008, 11:26 AM

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Hi clngu,

I am still a student studying degree of Comp Science,
now is my last year of study, thinking about getting certified to help me up in my future.

I am interested with web development and securities, and considering to take a CEH course at semester break.

Some of my friends aim for Cisco cert but seems like there is a lot of Cisco certified pros out there....

Can i get some guidance on which certification to get for web development and security?

Thanks smile.gif

This post has been edited by howmun: Jun 29 2008, 11:27 AM
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post Jun 29 2008, 12:24 PM

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CISSP and JAVA cert @@
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QUOTE(howmun @ Jun 29 2008, 11:26 AM)
Hi clngu,

I am still a student studying degree of Comp Science,
now is my last year of study, thinking about getting certified to help me up in my future.

I am interested with web development and securities, and considering to take a CEH course at semester break.

Some of my friends aim for Cisco cert but seems like there is a lot of Cisco certified pros out there....

Can i get some guidance on which certification to get for web development and security?

Thanks smile.gif
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as a student before graduated your Bachelor Degree in CS. in your case, you can pursue the below certificate.

Web Development - CIW Associate, CIW Site Designer, CIW JavaScript Fundamentals, CIW Perl Fundamentals, CIW Application Developer, Sun Certified Java Associate, Sun Certified Java Programmer, Microsoft Certified Application Developer.

Security - EC-Council CEH (some training centres may reject student without working experience).






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QUOTE(Linuxkid @ Jun 29 2008, 12:24 PM)
CISSP and JAVA cert @@
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fresh graduate is not qualified to take ISC2 CISSP.

The applicant must meet the following requirements to qualify to sit for the examination:
- Have a minimum five years of direct full-time security professional work experience in two or more of the ten domains of the information systems security.
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post Jun 30 2008, 06:53 AM

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ermm if i got deg in it majoring in network + ccna + mcsa..

how much expected salary for me?
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post Jun 30 2008, 08:48 AM

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hi clngu,

can u guide a lost sheep here?
I'm a programmer/technician for this small private company. have been working for ~4 years.

I'm only holding a degree for computer science and no any other cert.
Currently I dont know which field I'm interested and kinda lost for my carrier path. So, can u tell me which is the 1st cert I should get?

btw, I'm from KK sabah. Is there any exam centre located at KK? If no, does that mean I must go to KL to take these exam for the cert?
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post Jun 30 2008, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(clngu @ Jun 29 2008, 06:47 PM)
as a student before graduated your Bachelor Degree in CS. in your case, you can pursue the below certificate.

Web Development - CIW Associate, CIW Site Designer, CIW JavaScript Fundamentals, CIW Perl Fundamentals, CIW Application Developer, Sun Certified Java Associate, Sun Certified Java Programmer, Microsoft Certified Application Developer.

Security - EC-Council CEH (some training centres may reject student without working experience).
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thanks clngu! this help a lot.
By the way, is web development a promising career path?
Since i saw most of them who is highly paid is on networking/servers admin/software engineering etc. ....
dhillon79
post Jul 1 2008, 02:48 PM

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hi all,

I'm selling all my MCSE 2003 books.
This are all MCSE 2003 books which includes Win XP & Server 2003.

Price: RM150 for each book.
Take ALL for only RM900 !!! (9books) You SAVE RM 450!!!
Willing to nego if the place and time to COD suits me.

Please PM me for more details.
Leong Forever
post Jul 2 2008, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(clngu @ Jun 26 2008, 11:56 AM)
ya. current company sponsor me for trainings and exams, but not all. some i pay myself.

previously i paid everything myself. around RM20k. got all the certificates in 18 months.
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hi clngu,

20k is consider very cheap.Only the CCNP course itself can cost till 15k.Clngu so do you pay fees to attend course for CCNP and MCSE? .I have friend work as network engineer 5 years in hypermarket which support is quite complicated.He has go attend the CISCO first two module

642-801 BSCI (Building Scalable Cisco Internetworks)
642-811 BCMSN (Building Cisco Multilayer Switched Networks)

Until to date,he only get CCNA ONLY/What he say is he go for the exam and failed? he say CCNP is very hard unles you really work at the routing environment else you will failed.Last time ,did you do router and switch while you study the CCNP? Really scare also listen from who experience before? Got planning to take my CCNA. Do you play and setup router yourself ,self study or got real times hands ON on cisco router.

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Just want to share my experience with those who want take CCNP exam. Feeling bad because yesterday i fail my ccnp bsci exam the passing score is 790 my score is 611. i left 8 question because i have no time to finish it in 2 hours. actually this is my second time to take bsci last time i finish all question on time but only got 600 score ! i have read all the cisco press and testking question but the real exam question is very trick and contain so many output screen which cause me very blur to see and waste my time for the rest question. i think maybe i will find network job b4 take again the bsci. sadly my ccna cert is expired this week. can i still get the ccna related job ?

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