arh..hard to get in arh...=(
now i hv two choices

a) get out frm schl this yr after spm (taking spm this yr) then do alvls at ATC and take law as one of the subject, then try to get into NUS

b) continue reading Senior Middle 3 in my schl nxt yr (Im studying in private schl)...and with the UEC cert, i try to apply for NUS's law faculty..

which will make it easier for me to get into NUS?

err..have no idea. Enlightenment plz

go and enquire from NUS.. but i think A levels would be better. recognized everywhere..

more lawyers alamak haha...

if you're doing ALE, remember that you may need GP as a paper...

UEC is also recognized by NUS, in fact the UEC cert is quite useful if wana go singapore, but (i think only la) i feel tht A levels cert with Law subject is better, will it?

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Added on October 19, 2008, 7:06 amoh. ALE = Alevels?
GP is actually what? mind to tell me more? and why wud i need tht paper?
thx =)

This post has been edited by Sarah0925: Oct 19 2008, 07:06 AM

I don't know whether this questions have been asked or not but...

1. are u planning to practice in Malaysia or SG?
2. if u take UEC is it recognized in Malaysia?
3. if its not recognized in Malaysia, r u wilin to spend the rest of ur life to work in SG?
4. Can u find a job in Sg?
5. Finally if u go for UEC, its not a subject that is widely recognized elsewhere. As such its a handicap for u.

*would advise u take A Level subject as it would expose u to legal basics and wider recognition in terms of cert.

hey everyone. i am form 5 this year. and i will either be going to uplands for IB program or go to perth for a TEE(ausmat) program.

the problem is i want to study law in ANU which is 16 ranked in the world.In its web it says that it's prerequisite is
TER 95 and IB 36.

can anyone please explain to me whats da meaning of IB 36? because i m a total stranger to this info.

http://studyat.anu.edu.au/programs/4300XLLB;overview.html

and do any of u have similiar experience.
should i opt for IB or TEE
which of them stands a higher chance for me to get into the law faculty of ANU?

thanks


ANU has also offered a program called JD. issit the same as LLB?

This post has been edited by coldblood: Oct 19 2008, 02:40 PM

1. if possible i would like to work in sg.
2. it's recognised almost worldwide (equivalent to STPM) except for msia. dont ask me why. lol shud ask the gov.
3. yea
4. tht's wht im worried abt, hope to work in sg tho'

hm thx alot aneway =) i thk i'll go for alvls, but do you know which uni/college which is good+ charges reasonbale fees tht offer alvls with law as one of the subject? cuz im dont come frm a very well-to-do family.

I don't know about IB, but it should be the same. And why just ANU? Rankings are bullshit in the real working world - just come out of a reasonably reputable school with good results.
Furthermore, Canberra isn't the best place to study law, and ANU certainly isn't, unless you're into government/public policy law. Truth be told TER of 95 is considered very low. Sydney/UNSW/Melb/Monash have just as good programs (harder to get in too) and will be much easier to gain employment if you plan to work in Australia. Perth has a shortage of lawyers and only has 2 universities offering law. UWA is a pretty good school too.

yeah thanks for the info. i am still new to law but very interested. The problem with UWA is that it only offers double degree if i opt fr law which is equivalent to 6.5 years which is very expensive. do u mind sharing and telling me which australia university is good and yet still recognized by the Malaysia government(just in case).

from the education agency, dey only told me about uwa ,utas and murdoch. Uwa has an TER of 96 , murdoch 90+, Utas 90+

If i go for my LLB in Perth, does it mean i stand a better chance at getting employment there?

This post has been edited by coldblood: Oct 19 2008, 07:20 PM

i dono what the hell is UEC. but take A levels and law as a subject. test it out. see whether u like it or not.

it depends whether Aussie needs that type of expertise or not, but well u can try..no harm in that. U can check the immigration website ler..to check which skill/profession they need. Though the last time i checked lawyers wasn't on the list.

legal practiotioners are on the SOL, namely barristers and solicitors, so u have to take the necessary qualifications in order to be considered such. Other legal practitioners without practicing certs will have to apply for assessment to see whether they have the required experience, qualifications to be considered as legal secretaries etc. Lawyers are however not on the MODL.

I am sorry because i have very limited knowledge regarding this. What exactly is SOL and MODL. do u mind to explain? thanks

btw which country do you think is good for a lawyer to have a bright future?
i heard its very hard to practice law in the UK for us malaysians

This post has been edited by coldblood: Oct 20 2008, 09:57 PM

yes, i'm also a bit lost so plz care to elaborate.

Simple terms:

You will get your PR by doing law. However, you can only apply after becoming a solicitor, and in most cases this means doing your degree + 1 year of practical legal training. Therefore, if you are doing a single 4 year degree, budget for 5 years expenses.

You will get a job in Australia if your grades are decent enough. Since you want to do just law, your options really are Monash, UNSW, and perhaps Queensland since Sydney only has double degrees for undergrads and Melbourne have their strange new system which prolongs your study. Between Monash/Melbourne & UNSW/Sydney, there really is no discrimination. All have people in high places of the judiciary and the profession. All are equal when you're looking for a job. Melbourne & Sydney have the most jobs. There's nothing in Canberra except government, and you can't work in government as a non-citizen. I am suggesting that you do not study in one state then move because you will build your network in the state you have studied in, and the partners who interview you sometimes favour graduates from their own alma-matter. Australia is also very state-centric. Nobody here in Melbourne cares that ANU is 'ranked' higher than Melbourne/Monash, and I can assure you that graduates from there will not be preferenced just for that reason alone.

Assuming you want to work in the large commercial firms, sell your soul to the firm and get $75k/year as your starting pay, both Melbourne and Sydney offer good opportunities. Sydney has perhaps more banking, finance, M&A jobs, whereas Melbourne will have more employment, trade practices, IP work. I was in your position about 6-7 years ago, I went to Monash, did my PR thing and am employed in a reputable mid-sized Melbourne firm now.

Good luck.

Thanks i understand every bit of wad you are saying. I heard from my education agency that if i go to canning/tuart college. they can get me to murdoch university. Is murdoch as good as UNSW and monash? In terms of future employment and reputation. If not, then i guess i wil take IB and then follow your footsteps to go to Monash or maybe UNSW.

Is a combined degree better than a single law degree?
do u mind to share which field of law are you practicing now?
Thanks again.

I do not know the perception of Western Australian residents, but I suppose Murdoch is okay. Canning college can get you to any university in Australia so don't restrict yourself to just Murdoch. If you're practising in Perth, Murdoch would be fine, but if you moved interstate, you'd want to be from UWA simply because its more well known.

It depends on you. If you want to practice in tax, you would need an accounting degree as well. If you want to practise in IT law, having an IT background would be good. But you don't yet know what you want to practise in, and sometimes you really don't get to choose - you just take whatever's on offer and hope to god you like it. I don't think its important to have a second degree, but it would help you get your first job. After that, I don't think it matters anymore.

I am practising in IP law.

whats about Malaysian Practicing law in UK? with their Bar as well.