What will happen to common law lawyers if our country implements islamic law in future?

nothing happen. pick up 1 more subject then.

I thought the concept of these legal systems are completely different?

i have the exactly same worries v u 0,0
jan in take is express intake ~scared may not able cope -,-
A level gt express intake also ...
horrible experience..

I'm a art stream student who want to take law degree, if I choose TARC A level, can I choose science combination set B: Mathematics, Physics, Further Mathematics and Economics? Or I just choose art combination which are 3 core subjects? Because I heard that if u want to get enter overseas university and get overseas scholarship like in Singapore or UK, it is better get 4 subjects instead of 3 subjects. Is that true? If I choose science combination B in TARC, the only problem is the Physics subject, can I just refer to the SPM Physics and understand the knowledge of Physics in A level?
p/s: I am very clever student who are fast learner xD

Can I know how long usually someone prepare for CLP? just wanna get an idea.Is is a matter of years or months. currently studying part-time, might take CLP in the near future. thanks

CLP? about 10-11 months?

since you are clever student and fast learner, take 4 then. but however clever you are just keep on studying and dont go easy in the middle of the course or else you get louzy marks for all 4 and that wont enable you to overseas.

hi every lyn forum..
i currently m waiting for my SPM result...
Lawyer have been my main ambition...but memorizing is what i got to need if i wan to do law(what i heard n learned from most people)...any awesome college to recommend???or maybe some advise for me to think around before i decide to do law????

This is a very very wrong concept/idea. It's probably coming from those who do not involve in the legal field. Law...isn't about memorizing.... There's no point memorizing because it's all about understanding the principle, the rules, the doctrine before you can even apply the case you memorize and nope, most of the lawyers these days, they dont memorize cases either. Those cases just stuck up in your mind forever and you dont need to memorize them...

The same thing I would remind those who wish to proceed in legal field, taking up LLB ... If you are taking this because you think you have good memorizing skill/brain or because you did extremely well in your sejarah in SPM, forget it. Take something else.

Law isn't an easy road. You need a good command of languages, be it BM or English. You may have do the program in English but at the end of the day, at the lower court, you still resort to using BM. So, think over it before you decide which path you are planning to take.

I have seen a lot of happen-to-be-my-seniors ended up so badly that most of us graduated before they do. Language is a problem. Attitude is another. If you are lazy, or one that enjoy life/outing, forget law...take something else. Or else you will just end up failing those subjects...

Then we got the horrible, extremely scary CLP...ouch...which is still that scary to most law students out there.

As for colleges, the more well know law school are probably BAC and ATC. I personally came from ATC but heard the standard changed a lot since the last time I was there. Not sure about the current situation but you may want to pay a visit to both colleges before you decide, hmm?

Anyway, too long winded, if you have any prob, you can leave me a private message. I will be glad to help out. Though, dont ask me about the pay! You dont wanna to know it!

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Added on December 11, 2011, 3:17 amThe pay is kinda low for freshie... but oh well, at the end of the day, everyone does the same way. Get into a firm, works your ass off, impress your boss, few years later,maybe you will get the partnership.

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Added on December 11, 2011, 3:19 amIt's recognized by Bar. Up for review every 2-3 years if I have not get my info wrongly...yes, that's should be the way it is now.

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Added on December 11, 2011, 3:20 amthat would take a hell lot of money out of you.... but then if you are rich, yes, that's probably an easier way compared to clp.

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Added on December 11, 2011, 3:22 amObviously A level is the safer choice here. Not sure about the SAM being recognized if you wanna take CLP. Might wanna ask around about this.

This post has been edited by solstice818: Dec 11 2011, 03:22 AM

huh? one CLP take 10-11 months? LOL..that's a bit too much for a working fellow.. u mean 10-11 months of attending classes or 10-11 months just full time study?

This post has been edited by hushpuppiesnike: Dec 11 2011, 11:05 AM

With regards to the second part of your query, the remuneration is not as high as it should be considering we are professionals and fully responsible for advice given and are regulated. But i think in Malaysia, every industry pays low if you want to compare, even your investment bankers. Starting salary of lawyers is RM3k to 4k (or 4.3k).

Start studying from day one and start preparing notes early on. If you have no time, then ensure you attend the revision classes. Ensure you reserve leave for the exam week as it can be very tiring.

Actually im not to class. Just going to prepare for the exam myself with a friend.i was planning to quit my job few months before the exam and study full-time from there . Do u think i'll be able to make it without classes and short periodof revision?

Yes. In terms of time, that would be sufficient. But I recommend ensuring that you get proper notes from the colleges. I left my job in early May to concentrate on the CLP, despite not attending classes earlier. Was okay for me. All of us know ppl that managed to pass the CLP first time whilst working full time, so I think if you intend to go full time study months prior to the exams, should be okay.

thanks a lot. so means if i didn't prepare anything ( or maybe not well-prepared), and I devoted all my time 2 or 3 months before CLP I should be able to make it? In addition, I'm doing Bachelor of Jurisprudence in UM before taking CLP, do you think it's a drawback when taking CLP? On another note, by the time i get my CLP, I'll be around 27 or 28, are law firms welcome people with these age to do chambering?

It would be proper if you get some decent guidance under tutor/lecturer. After all they exist for a reason. Not enrolling in any college, studying on your own is risky. I mean, isn't a well known fact that CLP is NOT EASY. So, why take the risky path? I would pick a safer path if I were in your shoes.

ya. but i have to work. that's why i don't have much time for the classes.but i might get guidance from some friends that passed CLP though. thanks a lot anyway. but would you mind answering other questions i asked previously ?

There are many awesome college and awesome program. go to each one and see which one you prefer.

There are HELP, Taylor both provide twinning program. There're also ATC, BAC, KDU and quite afew more. ATC and BAC can get switch you to UK uni and college as well. Just have to talk to the management.

ANd alot law students are not that good with memorizing. But they are hardworking. They dont memorize cases, judgment, quotes etc. THey read again and again and again until all those datas are well-stored int their brian. They remember them, they dont just memorize. so no worries, after tonnes of reading, you basically dont need to memorize them.

thats the attending class period.

Stop working maybe? Because so far there is very very little people who can cope with CLP while working at the same time. It's draining your life away, seriously!

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Added on December 12, 2011, 10:49 amAs for your previous questions, may I ask what's the point of you taking of Bachelor of Jurisprudence?

If you ask me, I would say that by the time of age of 27/28, it's harder for you to fight with the young one, no?

Think about it, put yourself in the law firm's shoes. Would you take a fresh grad with 0 experience of age 24/25 or one with 27/28? I would take the younger since both are equally inexperienced.

And another thing people fail to notice is that now with the CLP exemption going on for some universities, there will be a flooding of fresh graduated lawyers. You will have to fight them for job. Not an easy task if you ask me.

This post has been edited by solstice818: Dec 12 2011, 10:49 AM

I beg to differ. The range of ages for pupils I have worked with is from 21 to 30. I have met and worked with almost 40 pupils so far. Age is or at least should be irrelevant. Why would it be harder to fight with the younger ones? From my experience, the older ones are usually more matured and usually have some form of working experience. I would take the candidate that impresses me most overall.

I still believe if you are decent enough (need not be strong 2:1 above), it is not hard to get a pupillage position in a good firm in the legal world. There are so many good firms for various type of work. Im not sure whether that extends to freshie LA positions. Have not decided on that point.