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post Nov 14 2008, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(schmeichel7 @ Nov 14 2008, 06:11 PM)
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damn funny both Arsene and Alex, and both very good manager
didn't know Arsene has a humurous side to him as well laugh.gif
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In terms of interesting personality, my vote goes to Alex.
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post Nov 14 2008, 06:23 PM

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although i am a liverpool fans, i do think sir alex is a great manager....winning so many title with man utd......

but rafa also no bad since he won the CL in the 1st season in charge of liverpool wit a bunch of craps player in the likes of igor biscan, djimi traore, etc etc....... laugh.gif laugh.gif

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I would go for Sir Alex Ferguson too .. he's gone a long way .. and he's achieved alot ..
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post Nov 15 2008, 10:45 PM

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go for SAF.
22 years is a very long time for a manager ti be in control.

respect him for that.
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post Nov 15 2008, 10:49 PM

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must be alex ferguson...no doubt.
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post Nov 16 2008, 01:21 PM

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for me J Mourinho...the best...Porto Chelsea now...Inter..as long as he manage a club...you can see the difference...and he consider young compared to SAF...and i think he can archive more..than SAF done..
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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Nov 16 2008, 01:21 PM)
for me J Mourinho...the best...Porto Chelsea now...Inter..as long as he manage a club...you can see the difference...and he consider young compared to SAF...and i think he can archive more..than SAF done..
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we have to wait about 13-15 years more to know if he can achieve more than SAF.
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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Nov 16 2008, 01:21 PM)
for me J Mourinho...the best...Porto Chelsea now...Inter..as long as he manage a club...you can see the difference...and he consider young compared to SAF...and i think he can archive more..than SAF done..
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I have to disagree on the bolded part. Could you please explain on how SAF won things with so-called kids(remarks of Alan Hansen), in these cases, that would be Scholes, Giggs, Beckham, Neville bros and Butt. I noticed that Mourinho hardly ever used youngsters from Chelsea FC academy ..
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Yes, Man U won with kids but u must remember that SAF got Cantona, Keane, schemeicel, irwin, steve bruce, yorke, cole at that moment. Meaning the combine good youngster and great experince players.

Jose Mourinho who made Lampard,Terry,Cech, Joe Cole, Drogba,Essien Carvalho be recognized as world class player.


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QUOTE(gry @ Nov 16 2008, 06:52 PM)
Yes, Man U won with kids but u must remember that SAF got Cantona, Keane, schemeicel, irwin, steve bruce, yorke, cole at that moment. Meaning the combine good youngster and great experince players.

Jose Mourinho who made Lampard,Terry,Cech, Joe Cole, Drogba,Essien Carvalho be recognized as world class player.
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Apart from Terry, I don't see any youngsters name being mentioned in your post. This is getting ridiculous.

SAF isn't as good as Wenger in nurturing youngsters but Lampard, Cech, Joe Cole, Drogba, Essien and Carvalho aren't exactly from Chelsea's academy as far as I know. These names that you've mentioned are the same as the ones you've mentioned from United team. Cantona, Keane, Schmeichel, Bruce, Yorke and Cole were bought in order to balance the team throughout.

You can't always play youngsters on each every game. They are inconsistent compared to the senior players which are nurtured with experiences. I found no valid argument in your post. You just made yourself looked pretty much 'empty'.
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post Nov 16 2008, 10:33 PM

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Alex Ferguson didnt spend a lot of money like the other managers did in EPL...

How much did Chelsea spend in the last 5 years.... Alex Ferguson didnt spend money also can win so many trophies...



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post Nov 16 2008, 10:39 PM

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I am a Chelsea fan but I would say Sir Alex Ferguson.
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post Nov 16 2008, 10:45 PM

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It's Fergie.full stop.
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post Nov 17 2008, 03:22 AM

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Apart from Terry, I don't see any youngsters name being mentioned in your post. This is getting ridiculous.

SAF isn't as good as Wenger in nurturing youngsters but Lampard, Cech, Joe Cole, Drogba, Essien and Carvalho aren't exactly from Chelsea's academy as far as I know. These names that you've mentioned are the same as the ones you've mentioned from United team. Cantona, Keane, Schmeichel, Bruce, Yorke and Cole were bought in order to balance the team throughout.

You can't always play youngsters on each every game. They are inconsistent compared to the senior players which are nurtured with experiences. I found no valid argument in your post. You just made yourself looked pretty much 'empty'.


so why ferguson loan out frazer campbell and bought berbatov if man u youngster really that good. where player from man u academy right now? Ronaldo, Vidic, Rooney, Berbatov, Van Der Sar? I never said that you can win if u used all youngsters in ur team. Look at what happened to arsenal right now. Even wenger bought youngster from others academy. I agree that only Man U academy and West Ham really produce good youngsters but rite now all dominated because of money.

I said Mourinho is amongst the best manager rite now because he win everything with porto and win all domestic title with chelsea for 3 years only. Yup, people always said because chelsea is rich but Ranieri cant win it for chelsea after bought 18 players at first season during Roman Era.

2 years at porto plus 3 years at chelsea is enough proof that Mourinho also amongst the best manager at our time. He success during at small/average club and rich club.




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QUOTE(Golden @ Nov 16 2008, 10:33 PM)
Alex Ferguson didnt spend a lot of money like the other managers did in EPL...

How much did Chelsea spend in the last 5 years.... Alex Ferguson didnt spend money also can win so many trophies...
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lolz.....are you sure about it??dun tell me nani, anderson, carrick, hargreaves come in FREE?? each of these player cost almost 10mill each.....tats also not call big spending?? doh.gif doh.gif

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I vote for Ken Worden!
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Scholari is my choice. everything he touches turns to gold. SAF may won a lot but he manage just 2 clubs i guess and was successful in one of it. Scholari on the other hand has coach many clubs and guiding his country to the world cup glory.
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Alex Ferguson didnt spend a lot of money like the other managers did in EPL...

How much did Chelsea spend in the last 5 years.... Alex Ferguson didnt spend money also can win so many trophies...
are u sure? nani, anderson hargreaves cost 50million, berbatov 31million, rooney 25million, carrick 21million, tevez will cost 30 million, ferdinand record signing for defender at his time, veron 20 million,

so united still not spend much?????
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QUOTE(boxsystem @ Nov 16 2008, 06:41 PM)
I have to disagree on the bolded part. Could you please explain on how SAF won things with so-called kids(remarks of Alan Hansen), in these cases, that would be Scholes, Giggs, Beckham, Neville bros and Butt. I noticed that Mourinho hardly ever used youngsters from Chelsea FC academy ..
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I think he meant that Mourinho started winning trophies at a younger age than Ferguson, not that Mourinho has won using young players.

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