sigh,,.. i smell the poison man..
hahaha now have to control a bit. spend too much for that speaker already..
=X
i slowly upgrade. and i continue to enjoy the fun sonus bring to me.. don't wanna have the max fun at one shoot.
lol
(although i know it's an excuse for making myself feel better for what i have no money to purchase.. )

ahliew. perhaps.. just perhaps. in my opinion. toy + cambridge audio is going to give you very very very polite sound.

good one.

well. i am one of the audio buff you describe then.
i carried my NAD to hifi shop to test the speaker before i buy.

because i think it's the best and most direct way to know how it sound rather than asking opinion over internet. and ppl give opinion, then we won't believe it, and still thinking "are you sure what you said is correct? what if my taste different with yours?"
so what's the point of asking opinion while already choose not to believe. then directly go and test is the best way. After asking a lot of question in the internet, in the end still won't get an answer that is satisfied. or even got ppl answer also choosed not to believe. so why wasting energy asking? if seriously want to buy. really go straight and test.
because for this kinda of low budget hifi entry level speaker. i don't think any hifi shop willing to borrow this speaker for you to take home and test it. unless you are very very close with those hifi shop.



This post has been edited by PcWork: Apr 11 2009, 12:11 AM

well i was thinking to borrow a concertino. but what if it doesn't suit me, and it get damaged physically or cosmetically while i transport it? i end up have to buy things i don't like.
so rather i bring my own amp there.
test it kao kao.

not neccessery everytime ppl go shopping will definitely confirm they wanna buy somethings. those shop are welcome enough for ppl to lepak as quite a big number of their business are come from ppl who lepak. very seldom customer are so aware until they went there. say " i want sonus faber toy" and grab it straight away and go home.
for hifi shop. lepak lepak time is the best time to see their altitude and their after sales service.
i personally doesnt see that as a problem though.

unless the customer really talk too much of crap. asking heavily discount price pretending wanna buy, although don't intended to buy at all, and not interested even to buy, but go to the shop pretend like he know everythings, and pretending he is very rich and wanna buy the things. asking hell a lot of question as if wanna know everythings about the design. while he himself don't sure what he actually want.
then the shop are really headache to face this kind of customer.

most of the time i often see that in hifi shop based in shopping complex.
for hifi shop located not in a shopping complex. ppl who went there actually clear about what they want. else they won't even going to there purposely just to lepak.

lol. that's what i face exactly when my last visit to perfect hifi. i though concertino memang don't have nice bass.
however. when i visit them. the concertino over there produce a bigger and fast bass although they sing in a room twice the size of my room.
so after that. i spend a lot of time in repositioning the speaker. and viola.. got it..
do use ruler to measure the accurate position.
for my case. as i sit very near to the speaker. hence each 0.5cm makes a different.
and by the way. my speaker is 2 feet from the back wall. i think i kinda like how it sounds. in perfect hifi they are placing it 4 feet away from rear wall. but their room is very quiet. hence the bass can easily come out.
and changing preamp of my amp also makes the sonus much more better in bass.

if ur floor is already marbled terrazo. adding the granite don't really gives much influence on the bass. i tried it once before. borrowed from hifi shop. and the granite only improve a little bit on the treble only compared to solid marble floor.

i am using one that i buy from perfect hifi. quite not bad. it's metal body with rubber underneat.
the spike shoe initially i was using 5 cents money, after that i swap to full copper things buy from cmy audio.
then i change again when i heard the different in perfect hifi.
each is about RM 20 if i remember correctly.
so 8 spike shoe = RM 160.lol
but it's background is much much much more quiet after i use it.

camera not on my hand now. tomorrow night i post up a photo. =)
it's black things. with a metal to form a } shape. then fit in a rubber ring in it.

so the rubber is the things to touch the grond. while the metal is contact with spike.

very much quiet than before.
in my setup lah.. very very quiet background after i put in.
much better than usual metal type.
i gave away the metal one already.

heres the picture..
bro, grandspy this coming week Tuesday i might go there

it is atacama actually. just found out the box.. lol

it's about RM 20 per biji if i am not mistaken. too long time already forgot.
but i am sure it's about that
i spend more than RM 150 for all 8 biji.
even close to RM 200, but i can't be so sure with the price.

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Added on April 21, 2009, 1:49 amsame characteristic. but cremona sounds much bigger and much lower.
upper mid cremona seems much more relax. it's like big bro of the auditor M..

by the way. how much is the clear audio?
=X


This post has been edited by PcWork: Apr 21 2009, 01:49 AM

no problem pals.
but if u use the original sonus faber spike shoe. that's even better than this atakama.
but it's not for sale. and i am not buying sonus original stand.. =(

got
but it don't sell saperately.
it's comes with original stand / floorstander.
very great built quality. sound is top notch imho compare to my atakama.
but it's not for sale..
=(

yes the price is about RM 150 for 8 biji.
quite great things. very quiet background after using it.

which model stand u buy?
i remember i saw sonus faber like cremona auditor M all floorstander does come with the original spike shoes wor.

outdoorexplorer. not the spike. the shoe of the spike
does concertino domus stand come with the shoe for the spike? metal pcs that for the spike to rest on it. to be place between floor and the spike.

awe..... no shoe foe concertino.. but nvm lah
i have atacama already. hehehehe

haha
After selling a lot of things that i keep and unuse...
i finally gathered enough money to compelete the concertino domus set.. =P



very happy with it..

most obvious changes i think it's the bass.
previously the bass was very slow and muddy. and i can't detect that as i use it with other stand also same. only when i replace the original sonus stand i realise that previous bass is muddy.
and the bass impact is very very much improved. speed is consider very fast as i am using small wattage amp to drive it.
the first impression when i swap the stand is the bass indeed very very fast.
instrumental wise. the mid is very much intergrated well with the lower bass.
previously i though that the mid is already well controlled.
and the treble / bass driver really intergrate each other well. but when i swap to original stand. the speaker makes me feels that it really perform "Full range" across it's freqnencies respond.
there's some mid that i can't even tell it's from tweeter or midbass.. it just come out completely.
when i play some flute or piano disc. from lower notes to higher notes, i can still hear the same thickness of the sound. the piano and the flute itself doesn't shrink. and it doesn't seems to have cross over problem in the middle range.
this is especially obvious with ori stand. perhaps it's due to the ori stand is made by wood / metal mixture. hence that it reduced specific requencies resounance.

treble and mid is much wider now. which on same track played . i really feel muffle in previous stand..
i am very very happy with the stand.. despite the seriously high price...
my wallet is seriously injured..

ido agree that it's part of each other..
before that. i was trying to upgrade amp.. upgrade preamp.. upgrade source... to maximise the speaker performance.
but in the end. it's still deviated as the stand itself doesn't make the speaker behave like it shall be.
so what ever i do including changing bigger power amp. trying tube amp. doesn't make me get good results. as the sound is very much coloured by the normal empire stand. so it's sort of bring heavy characteristic over the speaker..
now with ori stand. i really can differenciate some different over source, recording and i swap cable also i can clearly identify the characteristic..
consider a good invest.