Correct. They are in Black. Super XX is in shiny black finish. The Power button is very 'old-fashion' type.

I never really got a chance to pair it up with Sonus Faber. Currently, I feel that it is good with Epos ES11.

baSICALLY, the Exposures did very well with SF and even Epos due to the speakers using long throw woofers, and also being abit hungry on power delivery. Higher current amps would excel here.

Thanks, i would enjoy music and listen back to all my collection

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Added on September 26, 2008, 11:01 amHaha, Is there really a club? Vote mugenfoo for Krell Club president, a new thread "Krell Club Member" can be created?

This post has been edited by auronthas: Sep 26 2008, 11:01 AM

Hey auronthas, Congratulations!!! Did you get a special price for that?
Your SF must be singing now

No, the price is close to 10K. Thanks, I hope the sound will improve overtime, will enjoy music over weekend and coming long holidays.

Is it because that Krell able to pump at least 200w to your speaker compare to your your less than 100w amp?

I wonder other brand 200w able to produce same quality...(I know sound signiture may difference)

The maximum output power is 200W (8 ohm) or 400W (4ohm). The output impedance is 0.17 ohm, due to its low output impedance, the output current is higher which can easily drive the speaker. Franky speaking, a 100W with low output impedance should able to drive my speaker, the investment on Krell is part of my plan for future expansion.

As Mugenfoo highighted in previous post or thread, he had given a very detail explanation on output impedance of amplifier and formula, please read and check.

Besides the formula, the most important is audition, there are too many factors affect the sound system including your music taste.

Audition different amplifiers, choose the one that match your speakers, music taste.

I would concur that generally speaking, amplifiers with high current output / low output impedance would be able to drive many medium sensitivity loudspeakers (and these include those Sonus Fabers) fine but figures alone don’t tell us much hence we MUST audition the amplifiers for the best match to our loudspeakers.

I have paired these few integrated amplifiers to my former SF Concertino Home to different results altogether - Exposure 2010S – Output impedance of 0.33ohm / 75W and 150W into 8ohm and 4 ohm ; Marantz PM7200 – Low output impedance but figures not known / 95W and 155W into 8ohm and 4 ohm (with 25W class A power into 8ohm capability); & Simaudio Moon i3 – Output impedance of 0.04ohm / 100W and 160W into 8 ohm and 4 ohm.

Bottomline, trust your very own ears and feeling as it is you who are going to live with the amplifier and not me or any other person. There is no such thing as the ultimate system or equipment to own but all these are merely equipment for us to Enjoy the Music.

One more important aspect, make sure that the audio equipment (amp, cd player, speaker) which you are going to audition have been burned in. If you know the audio shop owner well, ask him by mutual trust if he allows to bring the burned in audio equipment to your home for audition as this will really test out your own audio setup and room environment.

thanks but no thanks,.

The following is except of a review by Chris Wynn at Audio Asylum way back in 1999, full article could be read here: review

"… in comparison to the larger Sonus Faber Concerto, the Concertinos lack a little bass extension, but are that much more transparent through the mid-range and treble. The Concertinos are the more accurate of the two models. Moreover, the bass roll-off qualities of the Concertinos allow a completely seamless (and undetectable) join with a sub-woofer … "

I’ve owned SF Concertino Home before and currently the SF Concerto Home and I would fully agree with him now (after my tweaking of a class T amplifier with different capacitance value in its psu section). Although Concertos are better than Concertinos in almost all other areas, the transparency of Concertinos in the treble and midrange is way better and this could be the very reason why select audiophiles throughout the world opt for very small loudspeakers, examples being LS3/5A, HL-P3ES and many others.

Hmmm... actual listening experience itself leads to new realisation.



This post has been edited by Y.C.: Oct 2 2008, 01:06 PM

i still like my old Concertos .... they sounded really nice with the Exposure XX, but when powered by the Krell 300i, even nicer! But yeah, the speakers then became the limiting factor and thats how the story goes.

But they're stilll being used elsewhere in the home.
Still happily making sounds.

mugenfoo,
IMO, your Krell KAV-300i amp is good enough even for the Sonus Faber Electa Amator and should have been paired to them if you really love SF sound. I have previously commented that amplifiers should be approximately the cost of loudspeakers they are driving.

yeah but the electa amator's bass extension is still somewhat limited.
Physics is physics .... can't expect the low frequencies to come out of something thats still a "bookshelf" size.

I think the Stereophile reviewer Ken Kessler once even drove a pair of Extrema's using the Krell 300i. That would be pretty much the limit of the 300i already for "Acceptable sound quality".

How much is the Concertino, Concerto and Grand Piano respectively?

mugenfoo,
So you are a bass head too; Sonus Faber loudspeakers are not the ultimate in this area.

dlyz,
You could check with Perfect Hifi S/B for the current pricing of the Concertino, Concerto and Grand Piano under the Domus series.

yah .... but not the car-stereo kind of one-note midbass BOOP BOOP BOOP.

I really appreciate those really deep 20~30Hz Bloomy basses that should come only from the original source recording.

hahaha!

Problem is, the the most unforgiving musical instruments like church organs and grand pianos will need a system that can reproduce at least some representation of these instruments' low harmonics for a really good hi-fi quality reproduction.

Though my Concertino Domus lowest frequency is at 50Hz, higher compared to Electa Amator 42Hz, Concerto Home 40Hz, IMO, i find it delivers a better bass, the music track that i tried is Enya - Less than a Pearl from her Amarantine album. I really enjoy the music.

Ya i see them, just that they are bundle with amp so dont really know the actual price for just the speaker itself, but they are really something huh. Nice speakers.

the thing is , Enya's music actually has alot of sub-sonic notes, and only the deepest systems that are capable to go down to 20Hz would fully reveal the whole spectrum of Enya music.

For really true hi-fi systems that go so low, we're talking about RM80K systems at least. Anything less and the bass would either be dance club bebops or car-stereo type of artificial bass booms, or you just won't get the proper bass extensions, and then its up to the speaker design to gently rolloff the low frequencies. There is a cheap way to get this kind of bass extension by using an AV sub-woofer to do the low-jobs, but its really really hard to get a sub to properly harmonise with a good pair of stereo loudspeakers.