well... if you're on a budget, then the Accord is out ... u got to make do with a Civic.


But lets say money isd not the issue here, then u can consider other factors like if its mainly going to be driven in the city only , or you wanna go long journeys / outstation trips more .... the choice is obvious.


Same thing with speakers (or any hifi equipment for that matter) .. if u are on shoestring budget .. then the choices are already limited for you.
Then even if you got the moolah, but if you only got a small room to put your hifi, , no point putting in a pair of Vandersteens or Duntech Sovereign loudspeakers. A good pair of LS3/5a would definitely sound much better in a small room than any of the 2 above.

And you got to consider if your existing Amp is up to task for the speakers as well ( or if u intend to upgrade amps to let your SonusFaber show their full potential) .... I once had an idiot of a friend who came to my house one day, and brought his puny 50Wpc integrated amp.. Some Frenchie brand (i forgot what name already) to try and drive my Apogee floorstanders. Can hear very obviously the amp was choking and coughing blood even without playing loudly. Thin and nasal sounding, no dynamics, wobbly stereo imaging, cracking at the treble, blah blah blah... all the bad shit of a poor match system (luckily didnt spoil my speakers!!) .

this is maybe coz Krell amps are sounding on the "harsh" side. Whereas SFs are on the "polite" smooth side. It could be a yin-yang synergy thingy between Krell and SFs . hahahahahahahaha

where ?

BTW, who is the SF dealer in Klang Valley now ah ?

yeah. Krell KAV-400Xi going for around RM9K now .

This post has been edited by mugenfoo: Jul 30 2008, 10:18 PM

RACUN RACUN !!!

hahahahahaha

Krells really can rock SFs ...

In fact, there was this "killer combo" in the 90s ... the KAV-300i rocking a pair of Extremas .. and at that time, it was the ONLY Integrated that could drive the Extremas. Needless to say, the KAV-300i got pretty toasty to the touch after about 30mins or so working on the Extremas at normal listening levels.

In case some of you'll haven't noticed, the SF Extrema is (perhaps the only one of its kind) really one hungry power sucker, so hungry that even its PASSIVE CROSSOVER has a HEATSINK protruding out the rear of the cabinet !!.

Imagine that for a loudspeaker ... u need a HEATSINK for it's Crossover alone !

eh, if there's a s/hand Krell KAV-300i going around .. might you guys be interested ?

(no, I ain't selling mine!)



This post has been edited by mugenfoo: Aug 2 2008, 10:41 AM

i said "if"....

paper specs very misleading. Alot of other factors come into play like front or rear facing bass-reflex ports, height of the stands, distance from back wall, room conditions...etc.

dont forget amp capability too ....

thats why it's best if u can audition in your own listening enviro.

Krell vs. Ayre ??? .... aiyo..... no fight lah ....

hahahahaha !!

What amp r u using to drive the Concertos ?

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Added on August 10, 2008, 1:10 amBTW, anyone know where I can buy Vibrapods in KL ?


This post has been edited by mugenfoo: Aug 10 2008, 01:10 AM

Since we are on the topic of Krells as well.... i must say that shame-shame, I have YET to see any decent hi-fi outfit that properly showcases the new Krell products.

Now it just feels like Krell in MY is being sold thru some mail-order or run-from-home outfit. DOES NOT do JUSTICE to that brand at all.... Just one opinion here.

Well bro, thats just one event.

But when I see a KAV-400 stacked amongst the other junk at some place like Hi-Way laser (for example)..... jatuh standard lah.
Not that I have anything against Hi-Way (i'm actually a Hi-Way supporter and have bought a lot of HT and Plasma other stuff from them).

Its just that generally the retail image of Krell is being presented very POORLY in KL (or Malaysia even?). The new agents should really do something about it, unless they are just contended with low/mid-class hifi sundryshops peddling Krells.

Whilst its true that Krell does not depend on retail frontage alone to sell, but the presentation is equally if not more important for a high-end brand like Krell.

Even that Taiwanese speaker brand USHER gets a decent dress-job and presentation by CMY.

Shame-shame on the current Krell distis.

Just vocals alone maybe LS3/5A better.

But overall musicality, SonusFaber better.

damn ... such good s/hand price for SF Concertinos !!

yup.. for example: a good partner to the Concertino Domus/ Home would be like a present day model Exposure Integrated Amp.

Using anything less than something in the Exposure's class would be an insult to the SonusFaber, but a RM15K amp would be serious overkill.

Of course, "overkill" is better than "insult", if one must choose between the 2 scenarios.

Exposure XX is wayy too old liao... obsolete!

But those new sucessors . i forgot what model number ... rated at like 80Wpc and 100Wpc.. sure will make the Concertinos sing.



But i was using the Exposure XX with the original 1st gen Concertos and they were quite a good match !

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Added on September 25, 2008, 7:08 pmEh.. ?

My circa 1994 Exposure XX is rated at 50Wpc. But high current . Its a "regulated integrated amplifier" design.



This post has been edited by mugenfoo: Sep 25 2008, 07:08 PM

Welcome to the Krell club!

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Added on September 26, 2008, 12:57 ammine is just the regular XX. Then in the mid to late 90s only came out with the super XX. But both which were black colour are really obsolete.

The present Exposures are all silver in colour. Brushed aluminium finish.



This post has been edited by mugenfoo: Sep 26 2008, 12:57 AM

baSICALLY, the Exposures did very well with SF and even Epos due to the speakers using long throw woofers, and also being abit hungry on power delivery. Higher current amps would excel here.