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 2008 Mazda6 2.5 vs 2008 Accord 2.4, Compare 2 hot models from Honda & Mazda

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post Aug 6 2008, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(sharkteef @ Aug 6 2008, 03:14 PM)
no, not really, juz sit around campfire and sing songs nia.

gotto start writting down the lyrics for the mazda and honda ads so can sing together gether lolz
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QUOTE(andyjyneo @ Aug 6 2008, 01:43 PM)
If Accord users are ahbeng, then Mazda 6 users are moron.
So you think Accord is what? Proton Saga with GT wing?

Case closed. You continue with your Mazda, and I continue with my Honda.
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Come on, no need to get personal here. Billytong has stated that the car is unique is because there's not many of them on the road in Malaysia.
So what's the problem with that? I fail to see the offensiveness in his statement.

This whole thread has been about Mazda 6 vs the New Accord so what has this got to do with the number of service center available, the kind of service you get at the service center? So on what basis do you base your arguement that spare part is difficult to procure? What we have are only assumption that it will be costly and it might take time to obtain them, it doesn't necessarily mean that might be the case. Alkt and if memory serves, as stated by Chips of motortrader - Car manufacturers are required to keep a certain level of spare parts as inventories for the cars they sell. So what's up with the coffin shop and heart attack statement?

Your prediction that Mazda will fair worse under Bermaz which is a Vincent Tan company is based on what? The dude is certainly tangled up with the Lingam case, but what has that got to do with his companies? Last I check, they seem to be doing ok and Bermaz seems to be doing a rather adequete job of promoting Mazda. Don't you think it would only be fair to give them the benefit of the doubt for at least a year before jumping to conclusions?

Another point is the Mazda 6's resale value. We agree that its resale value is probably going to be poor compared to a Camry or Accord. But 50% less? Let's be realistic here, last I check with the star classifieds, its resale value is about 10% less than that of a Camry model for the same year which isn't too bad for a niche car brand.

If you say something like:

- The Accord is more comfortable because of its class leading cabin space - nobody is going to dispute with you on that because the dimensions speak for themselves.
- The Accord is more powerful based on test results from magazines & personal experience - again not much to dispute because you substantiate your findings based on proper research.

So far all you have demonstrated is typical fanboyism mentality by attacking another brand because their opinion differs from yours which is clearly seen from page 24 onwards of this entire thread. I'm not taking sides here but at the very least if you want to attack someone to justify your statements, do it like jchue73 who consistently post some facts to back his claims (with the exception of his Mazda 3 pawning everybody statement, which is just dumb tongue.gif ).

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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Aug 6 2008, 03:35 PM)
Come on, no need to get personal here. Billytong has stated that the car is unique is because there's not many of them on the road in Malaysia.
So what's the problem with that? I fail to see the offensiveness in his statement.

This whole thread has been about Mazda 6 vs the New Accord so what has this got to do with the number of service center available, the kind of service you get at the service center? So on what basis do you base your arguement that spare part is difficult to procure? What we have are only assumption that it will be costly and it might take time to obtain them, it doesn't necessarily mean that might be the case. Alkt and if memory serves, as stated by Chips of motortrader - Car manufacturers are required to keep a certain level of spare parts as inventories for the cars they sell. So what's up with the coffin shop and heart attack statement?

Your prediction that Mazda will fair worse under Bermaz which is a Vincent Tan company is based on what? The dude is certainly tangled up with the Lingam case, but what has that got to do with his companies? Last I check, they seem to be doing ok and Bermaz seems to be doing a rather adequete job of promoting Mazda. Don't you think it would only be fair to give them the benefit of the doubt for at least a year before jumping to conclusions?

Another point is the Mazda 6's resale value. We agree that its resale value is probably going to be poor compared to a Camry or Accord. But 50% less? Let's be realistic here, last I check with the star classifieds, its resale value is about 10% less than that of a Camry model for the same year which isn't too bad for a niche car brand.

If you say something like:

- The Accord is more comfortable because of its class leading cabin space - nobody is going to dispute with you on that because the dimensions speak for themselves.
- The Accord is more powerful based on test results from magazines & personal experience - again not much to dispute because you substantiate your findings based on proper research.

So far all you have demonstrated is typical fanboyism mentality by attacking another brand because their opinion differs from yours which is clearly seen from page 24 onwards of this entire thread. I'm not taking sides here but at the very least if you want to attack someone to justify your statements, do it like jchue73 who consistently post some facts to back his claims (with the exception of his Mazda 3 pawning everybody statement, which is just dumb  tongue.gif ).
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u didnt read properly. billytong quoted himself as unique ....not the car.
for the 2nd paragraph, its best for you not to lurk in kopitiam.
10% loss of wat price ? assuming base price is RM 150,000 your loss of 10% is....is....over nine thousandddddddddddddd
do the math dude. its still alotta money.

this all started by something nice i quoted at post #390, then came an arrogant person at post #397
that is how all it started. and the fanboy is actually jchue73 who is a lonely person who cant mind his own business. yup thats rite. typical kepoh fella.
that mazda 3 was juz one of it. the other statement would be his RM400 rebate on road tax if u re-read the whole topic which i doubt u will. even i'm also lazy to read.

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Neh, if he said he or his car is unique, I don't have comments. But sarcastic woh. When I be sarcastic, they cannot tahan. Wah, what is this lah? Imbalance or unfair ah?
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i lost track liaw ... can some give me updates hahah
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QUOTE(whoopa @ Aug 6 2008, 04:05 PM)
i lost track liaw ... can some give me updates hahah
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hai leng lui ....we were juz discussing bout holding hands in a circle of campfire and singing the advertisements on mazda and honda . wanna join in ? admisshun fee is over nine thousand only.
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LMAO , advertising now , want copyright ?
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post Aug 6 2008, 04:08 PM

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over nine thousand too much lur .. sad.gif ... cant afford ... i think myvi is still the best .. very kawaii happy.gif
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myvi makan minyak la bang. belilah honda....
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hahaha .. myvi many cars ... so it must be good lulz ... each corner see 1 myvi .. altho 50k .. its still cheap i heard lulz ...
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QUOTE(sharkteef @ Aug 6 2008, 03:45 PM)
u didnt read properly. billytong quoted himself as unique ....not the car.
for the 2nd paragraph, its best for you not to lurk in kopitiam.
10% loss of wat price ? assuming base price is RM 150,000 your loss of 10% is....is....over nine thousandddddddddddddd
do the math dude. its still alotta money.

jchue73 is a lonely person who cant mind his own business. it all started when i told billytong to have some respect for this TS's thread . and along came him. kepoh u know ....
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This was his original quote:

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To all those people, Dont buy Mazda6 because u making me less unique.
and his follow up was

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LOL, not like I am breaking any rules, I am just reinforce what Kizuna6 said. I just tired of some people doing their Honda propaganda without solid reason. 

There is all the solid reason u said in above post telling why u personal like Mazda6.

I love my Mazda6 and I like it. Ask me to pick a car for the second time I'll pick Mazda6 over Honda.
The way I see it, he's stating an opinion. Sure it may make him look like an arrogrant twat to some but it's still just his opinion which he's entitled to. Anyway, we'll leave this part at that.

I've followed this thread from start to finish and you're right, I don't think I would bother to re-read the entire thing either.

Now a 2.0L Mazda 6 is selling at the price of 82k+ listed in the classifieds for year 2005 as I recall. To simplify matters, we won't take into consideration the condition and mileage on the car.

A 2.0L Camry for the same year is selling for RM84 to RM89K. If we take the lowest point into consideration, it's only a difference of 2k and at its highest, the difference is roughly 7k. The margin is about 5 to 10% isn't really that big of a deal. Assuming if you can afford to buy this level of car, the next car that you want to buy probably is something more expensive. If we take a somewhat high median of 6k, the difference isn't too significant if the next car you want to buy cost over 200k. Let's put it this way, for example if you're willing to pay over 200k for a car, what's an additonal 10 grand? Would it be significant to bat an eyelid? I don't think so. I think most of us would think that a few years from today, we would have moved on to finer and greener pastures don't you agree?

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QUOTE(whoopa @ Aug 6 2008, 04:11 PM)
hahaha .. myvi many cars ... so it must be good lulz ... each corner see 1 myvi .. altho 50k .. its still cheap i heard lulz ...
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Aug 6 2008, 04:22 PM)
This was his original quote:
and his follow up was
The way I see it, he's stating an opinion. Sure it may make him look like an arrogrant twat to some but it's still just his opinion which he's entitled to. Anyway, we'll leave this part at that.

I've followed this thread from start to finish and you're right, I don't think I would bother to re-read the entire thing either.

Now a 2.0L Mazda 6 is selling at the price of 82k+ listed in the classifieds for year 2005 as I recall. To simplify matters, we won't take into consideration the condition and mileage on the car.

A 2.0L Camry for the same year is selling for RM84 to RM89K. If we take the lowest point into consideration, it's only a difference of 2k and at its highest, the difference is roughly 7k. The margin is about 5 to 10% isn't really that big of a deal. Assuming if you can afford to buy this level of car, the next car that you want to buy probably is something more expensive. If we take a somewhat high median of 6k, the difference isn't too significant if the next car you want to buy cost over 200k. Let's put it this way, for example if you're willing to pay over 200k for a car, what's an additonal 10 grand? Would it be significant to bat an eyelid? I don't think so. I think most of us would think that a few years from today, we would have moved on to finer and greener pastures don't you agree?
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Not necessary. Some people pay an average downpayment, and loan for long periods, eg. me.
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lol viva cheaper tongue.gif , i driving my aveo i tio overtake by kancil and viva lol
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QUOTE(andyjyneo @ Aug 6 2008, 04:34 PM)
Not necessary. Some people pay an average downpayment, and loan for long periods, eg. me.
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I dunno about you, but I've always taken 5 years loan and that's too long imo.

Anyways, if you can afford to buy a 150k car today, the next common progression would be a more expensive car in the 180k range. But we don't have any bigger or better in that price range unless you're willing to consider the BMW 1 series, Mini, Golf etc. Those are nice conti-cars but it would be like a step down to go from mid-size sedan back to compact sedan range. The only other options are the VW Passat or those unreg units and if you don't fancy those - then the next step are 200k range cars.

Let's assume you take a 7 year loan, you will need to pay off at least 4 years worth of installation to get anything significant back for a downpayment. But if you're already able to afford a 200k car, an additional 10k really isn't going to make you bat an eyelid now would it?

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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Aug 6 2008, 05:01 PM)
I dunno about you, but I've always taken 5 years loan and that's too long imo.

Anyways, if you can afford to buy a 150k car today, the next common progression would be a more expensive car in the 180k range. But we don't have any bigger or better in that price range unless you're willing to consider the BMW 1 series, Mini, Golf etc. Those are nice conti-cars but it would be like a step down to go from mid-size sedan back to compact sedan range. The only other options are the VW Passat or those unreg units and if you don't fancy those - then the next step are 200k range cars.

Let's assume you take a 7 year loan, you will need to pay off at least 4 years worth of installation to get anything significant back for a downpayment. But if you're already able to afford a 200k car, an additional 10k really isn't going to make you bat an eyelid now would it?
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You're right. 200k is a big sum, and a 10k is a nut.
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QUOTE(genkis3 @ Aug 6 2008, 01:12 AM)
omg... this is what honda fans bashes style? i always feel honda especially accord owner must be mature enough... geesshh... im accord owner as well.

this is not a healthy discussion anymore , i think mod should close this thread.
since the TS not here anymore.


Whoa... Look what the kids did? 4 pages of rubbish in one day? hmm.gif

laugh.gif I think that's precisely the childish idea to bombard a thread like as though as this thread is a Kopitiam thread till the mods close it. Simply marvellous trick. But a cheap trick nonetheless. rclxms.gif


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QUOTE(sharkteef @ Aug 6 2008, 03:45 PM)
this all started by something nice i quoted at post #390, then came an arrogant person at post #397
that is how all it started. and the fanboy is actually jchue73 who is a lonely person who cant mind his own business. yup thats rite. typical kepoh fella.
that mazda 3 was juz one of it. the other statement would be his RM400 rebate on road tax if u re-read the whole topic which i doubt u will. even i'm also lazy to read.


If indeed I was in the wrong, why don't you make a report to the mods and ban me? No case against me huh? rclxm9.gif

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Aug 6 2008, 05:09 PM)
Whoa... Look what the kids did? 4 pages of rubbish in one day?  hmm.gif

laugh.gif I think that's precisely the childish idea to bombard a thread like as though as this thread is a Kopitiam thread till the mods close it. Simply marvellous trick. But a cheap trick nonetheless. rclxms.gif
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Yeah, in these 4 pages, whoever reply also are kids.
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QUOTE(andyjyneo @ Aug 6 2008, 03:52 PM)
Neh, if he said he or his car is unique, I don't have comments. But sarcastic woh. When I be sarcastic, they cannot tahan. Wah, what is this lah? Imbalance or unfair ah?


Perhaps the reason why we cannot tahan is because you've got no style. biggrin.gif My apologies. Please try harder or perhaps get help from your peers to help you in your counter replies.

If you and your friends got diarrhea problem the last 24 hours, there's a proper place and time to do it at your own comfort. Not good hanging your dirty laundry here and conduct yourself to bring shame to Honda owners. doh.gif

People with good upbringing don't stoop at a low level to snowballing people who have a better car.
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Aug 6 2008, 05:13 PM)
Perhaps the reason why we cannot tahan is because you've got no style.  biggrin.gif My apologies. Please try harder or perhaps get help from your peers to help you in your counter replies.

If you and your friends got diarrhea problem the last 24 hours, there's a proper place and time to do it at your own comfort. Not good hanging your dirty laundry here and conduct yourself to bring shame to Honda owners.  doh.gif

People with good upbringing don't stoop at a low level to snowballing people who have a better car.
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QUOTE(andyjyneo @ Aug 6 2008, 05:11 PM)
Yeah, in these 4 pages, whoever reply also are kids.


There's difference between a reply from a kid and a reply from a matured adult. People who cannot differentiate which post comes from which side would most probably belong to kids category. biggrin.gif

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