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Official Asus EEE PC Thread #2, Love it ? Feel it !
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rahuldave
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Jul 13 2008, 04:29 PM
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Bro Jack Refer to your tutorial of nlite at http://www.i64x.com/eeexp.php, can we use the tutorial to run it on other notebook, i mean normal notebook? And hope u dont mind to write a good tutorial on how to run it from a thumbdrive/pendrive. TQ
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ziranfaze
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Jul 13 2008, 05:48 PM
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New Member
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I plan to buy ePC1000 with solid state drive. Does anyone know when will it sell in Malaysia and what is the price?
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iRonTech
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Jul 13 2008, 07:07 PM
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QUOTE(jackdon @ Jul 13 2008, 01:23 PM) Superman7, Well if you follow the link I posted earlier, it takes 17 sec to bootup WinXP Pro. Do take note that guide was for the 900. You must enable P4 support for Hyper Trading else you cannot install in on a 901. Also I have to add back Modem support for Maxis BB Dialup and also I added Chinese Language. jackdon I've done my ee 4G 701 17 seconds boot up time with normal XP installation how much the boot up time with ur method on 901 ?
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jackdon
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Jul 13 2008, 07:37 PM
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QUOTE(iRonTech @ Jul 13 2008, 07:07 PM) I've done my ee 4G 701 17 seconds boot up time with normal XP installation how much the boot up time with ur method on 901 ?  IronTech, Well 17 second on a standard install is just great. But then how do you calculate boot time. By the time you see the windows screen or by the time you see the task bar. Even if you can see the task bar the windows is still loading drivers and startup application. The 17 second that I refer to is when you can launch application. But I think my install now with alot more startup takes more than 25 second I hope this thread does not boils down to mine is bigger than yours kind of thread but to be constructive or guide how to speed up our little baby eee. I know with a full install on XP SP2 boot time is definately much longer than that with all the eee drivers loaded. I read that a standard install on a 900 and 901 with all the drivers install takes about 50 to 60 second which lead to this nlite tweaking. jackdon. Added on July 13, 2008, 7:41 pmQUOTE(rahuldave @ Jul 13 2008, 04:29 PM) Bro Jack Refer to your tutorial of nlite at http://www.i64x.com/eeexp.php, can we use the tutorial to run it on other notebook, i mean normal notebook? And hope u dont mind to write a good tutorial on how to run it from a thumbdrive/pendrive. TQ Rahuldave, Yup you definately can use it for any PC as long as it can support Windows XP. I am sure you should be able to find a guide on how to install from the flashdrive. jackdon. This post has been edited by jackdon: Jul 13 2008, 07:41 PM
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shady
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Jul 13 2008, 08:51 PM
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jackdon,
i paid around 6000yen(around rm200) for the 16GB SDHC. Roughly 1/10 of the price of my 901X. I upgraded to 2GB RAM too. Using 512MB for RAMdisk at the moment. The size is pretty nice for me. Small enough and sharp screen.
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iRonTech
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Jul 13 2008, 08:52 PM
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QUOTE(jackdon @ Jul 13 2008, 07:37 PM) IronTech, Well 17 second on a standard install is just great. But then how do you calculate boot time. By the time you see the windows screen or by the time you see the task bar. Even if you can see the task bar the windows is still loading drivers and startup application. The 17 second that I refer to is when you can launch application. But I think my install now with alot more startup takes more than 25 second I hope this thread does not boils down to mine is bigger than yours kind of thread but to be constructive or guide how to speed up our little baby eee. I know with a full install on XP SP2 boot time is definately much longer than that with all the eee drivers loaded. I read that a standard install on a 900 and 901 with all the drivers install takes about 50 to 60 second which lead to this nlite tweaking. jackdon. Added on July 13, 2008, 7:41 pmRahuldave, Yup you definately can use it for any PC as long as it can support Windows XP. I am sure you should be able to find a guide on how to install from the flashdrive. jackdon. Yup. There is a great analyze tool named Microsoft Bootvis, u could give it a shot  I was spent quite some time on these boot up tuned when then ee still new.. U need to disable some unnecessary services & startup programs, refer to forum.eeeuser.com somehow, I believe the 901 can boost far faster than celeron cpu base 900,701. after all, post ur best boot up result here from bootvis
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jackdon
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Jul 13 2008, 09:07 PM
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QUOTE(iRonTech @ Jul 13 2008, 08:52 PM) Yup. There is a great analyze tool named Microsoft Bootvis, u could give it a shot  I was spent quite some time on these boot up tuned when then ee still new.. U need to disable some unnecessary services & startup programs, refer to forum.eeeuser.com somehow, I believe the 901 can boost far faster than celeron cpu base 900,701. after all, post ur best boot up result here from bootvis  IronTech, Thanks, will lookup on the BootVis, but now I am in the application tune up stage. Just junk MS Outlook, then Junk MS Office 2003 for Open Office. Install Palm Desktop as my PIM to sync with my Treo 650. So by next week I will be redoing another nlite this time with SP3 slip stream. The SP3 upgrade I did all of a sudden increase my Windows directory size 1GB which was previously 700MB+ and this is after I move the servicespackfiles directory which is 500MB + in size. Damn upgrade is just too big.  hehe... it seems all this tweaking and tune up is pretty fun. Some say it is even better than sex... hahahaha when you get it right. jackdon. Added on July 13, 2008, 9:10 pmQUOTE(shady @ Jul 13 2008, 08:51 PM) jackdon, i paid around 6000yen(around rm200) for the 16GB SDHC. Roughly 1/10 of the price of my 901X. I upgraded to 2GB RAM too. Using 512MB for RAMdisk at the moment. The size is pretty nice for me. Small enough and sharp screen. Wow... Over here I check Kingston and they quoted me almost RM500/=. May I ask is the 16GB SDHC class 6 ? and which brand. jackdon This post has been edited by jackdon: Jul 13 2008, 09:10 PM
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iRonTech
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Jul 13 2008, 09:20 PM
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QUOTE(jackdon @ Jul 13 2008, 09:07 PM) IronTech, Thanks, will lookup on the BootVis, but now I am in the application tune up stage. Just junk MS Outlook, then Junk MS Office 2003 for Open Office. Install Palm Desktop as my PIM to sync with my Treo 650. So by next week I will be redoing another nlite this time with SP3 slip stream. The SP3 upgrade I did all of a sudden increase my Windows directory size 1GB which was previously 700MB+ and this is after I move the servicespackfiles directory which is 500MB + in size. Damn upgrade is just too big.  hehe... it seems all this tweaking and tune up is pretty fun. Some say it is even better than sex... hahahaha when you get it right. jackdon. Added on July 13, 2008, 9:10 pmWow... Over here I check Kingston and they quoted me almost RM500/=. May I ask is the 16GB SDHC class 6 ? and which brand. jackdon  same...at 1st i was busy around upgrade all microsoft patches include SP3.. after that just format reinstall XP without any microsoft update patches but only 3rd party firewall, AV + firefox serve me the purposes..
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shady
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Jul 13 2008, 09:52 PM
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QUOTE(jackdon @ Jul 13 2008, 09:07 PM) IronTech, Thanks, will lookup on the BootVis, but now I am in the application tune up stage. Just junk MS Outlook, then Junk MS Office 2003 for Open Office. Install Palm Desktop as my PIM to sync with my Treo 650. So by next week I will be redoing another nlite this time with SP3 slip stream. The SP3 upgrade I did all of a sudden increase my Windows directory size 1GB which was previously 700MB+ and this is after I move the servicespackfiles directory which is 500MB + in size. Damn upgrade is just too big.  hehe... it seems all this tweaking and tune up is pretty fun. Some say it is even better than sex... hahahaha when you get it right. jackdon. Added on July 13, 2008, 9:10 pmWow... Over here I check Kingston and they quoted me almost RM500/=. May I ask is the 16GB SDHC class 6 ? and which brand. jackdon ADATA 16GB Class6.
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lynsuxxx
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Jul 13 2008, 10:24 PM
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hello fellas,
I'm now looking for a small and light laptop as I travel a lot, and after some survey I plan to get a 900/ 901 by next 2 weeks, after I coming back from a trip. Some question to ask. May I know:
a) what is the difference/s btw 900 and 901? b) my finger is bit rough, so may I know how many % smaller compared to a normal laptop keyboard? c) what is the advantages over msi wind? d) how do you guys format the window, since it don't have any cd-rom and how do you boot from usb? e) is the performance worth the price?
thanks. smile.gif
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jackdon
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Jul 14 2008, 08:55 AM
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QUOTE(rahuldave @ Jul 13 2008, 04:29 PM) Bro Jack Refer to your tutorial of nlite at http://www.i64x.com/eeexp.php, can we use the tutorial to run it on other notebook, i mean normal notebook? And hope u dont mind to write a good tutorial on how to run it from a thumbdrive/pendrive. TQ Rahuldave, This is extracted from the following link : How to install XP without a CD ROM - Link extracted belowHope this help. When I got my Eee PC, I also got an XP license with it, as I never intended to use the OS that came with it. I did not get a USB CD-ROM though because I figured flash drives have been around long enough that I should be able to use it just as easily as a floppy disk to boot and install an OS. Boy was I wrong.
After a lot of time spent searching, trying various methods only to end in failure, and experimenting, I finally found a way to do it that doesn't involve Bart or PE anything, nor any really arcane tools (okay, maybe one or two :-).
This guide is an adaptation of instructions posted by cityfun in this thread: http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?pid=12725
Naturally, all instructions here are at your own risk. This method worked for me, but your mileage may vary. If you are careless, you could potentially nuke your computer's hard disk doing some of this stuff, so be careful. Hey, I said it was easy, not safe and fun!
Edit: Please see footnotes at the bottom for variations on these requirements before beginning. I also suggest reading through this thread, as many helpful posters have addressed common questions and suggested other variations on this install. My thanks to all who have contributed!
What you need:
1. A USB memory stick AND a SD card. One of these has to have enough space to contain the XP install files. 2. Physdiskwrite (http://m0n0.ch/wall/physdiskwrite.php) 3. Boot disk image: MS Windows XP System Setup Disk (http://freepctech.com/pc/002/files010.shtml) A computer running Windows 2000/XP (I am pretty sure Vista won't work since physdiskwrite is a 16-bit app) and a USB slot or SD card reader attached 4. Windows XP installation files (off your MS CD, or from wherever) 5. A tool for extracting archives. I used WinRAR, but there are plenty of others out there. 6. Some knowledge of DOS. I do not go into the minutia of every command or DOS tool. Luckily, Google is an able companion for help if you get stuck.
The goal of this whole thing is to get your Eee PC into the following state, which will allow for Win XP to be installed:
1. SSD has a single FAT32 partition that is "active" and has a functional boot loader. 2. The complete i386 folder from your XP CD is copied to your SSD
What to do: -On your XP computer, download physdiskwrite and the boot disk image mentioned above. Unzip physdiskwrite to a temp directory. I was able to "unzip" the system setup disk executable using WinRAR as well, to get the actual image file rather than the disk maker. WinRAR throws an error and says that the archive is corrupt, but it gets the image out and it works just the same.
So, you should have a temp filder (say c:\temp) with two files: physdiskwrite.exe and WXPBOOT.IMA.
-Insert the flash memory device you DO NOT intend to use to hold your XP install files. -Open a command line and navigate to your temp directory. -Type: physdiskwrite -u wxpboot.ima
It will list all of your drives and ask you which one you want to write to. BE VERY CAREFUL HERE. You need to make sure you aren't writing to any of your actual hard disks. If you are not sure which one is your flash disk, do the following:
Control Panel --> Administration Tools --> Computer Management --> Disk Management
You will see a list of all your drives. The numbers should correspond to the numbers listed by physdiskwrite. Also, your flash disk should not list a manufacturer like Maxtor, Seagate or Western Digital :-)
Now that you are sure you are writing the image to the correct drive, enter the drive number at the command prompt and it will write the image to your flash drive. It should take just a second or two.
-With your "boot disk" created, go ahead and copy the XP install files to your other flash drive.
-When that's done, insert your "boot disk" drive into the Eee PC. Hit Esc during startup and tell it to boot from whichever one you just used physdiskwrite on. DO NOT insert your XP flash drive yet.
It will pause a time or two for you to hit a key. At the end, you should end up at A:\. If you did, congratulations, you are almost there.
-Type fdisk
The only "fixed disk" available to fdisk now should be your internal SSD. You can check this by selecting the option to view all physical disks. If that option is absent from the menu (and it should be at this point), then it is only seeing your SSD. You can further verify this by looking at the current partition information. It should show several non-DOS partitions, and a DOS partition named BIOS (well, my machine did anyway). Delete all of these partitions. Create a new primary DOS partition using all of the SSD's space. Fdisk should automatically set it to "Active", but just make sure by viewing partition info after all of this is done and check that the A flag is present.
-Insert your XP install flash drive and reboot the machine. You should boot from your boot disk again.
-Back at A:\ prompt, format the C drive: A:\format c: /s
-When that is complete, we need to make sure the Linux boot loader is gone once and for all. type: A:\fdisk /mbr
Your SSD should now be bootable to DOS without a boot disk
-Copy the WinXP install files over to your SSD: A:\md c:\i386 A:\xcopy B:\i386 C:\i386 /E (note: this command assumes your XP install files are in a folder called i386 on your XP flash drive. Adjust as necessary). Be sure to use the /E switch so that it copies all the subdirectories. If you omit that like I did the first time, you get to the GUI part of the installation and then it asks for files that don't exist.
That copy operation will take a while. Go get a donut or something.
When that's done, navigate to c:\i386 and run winnt.exe
The Windows installer should start, and you should be home free from there!
If you totally screw up and want to restore the system, there is a system restore utility on the ASUS DVD that will make your USB drive into a bootable restoration disk.
Hopefully you are kicking it in XP on your Eee PC. Have fun!
Edit: I am using the space below to address some issues I've seen posted in the thread. I will add to this list as necessary. 1. Yes, you can delete the i386 folder from your C drive if you copied the files over. The only time you'd need those files is if you add/remove Windows components. What you can do is stick the i386 folder on a SD card or USB drive and point Windows there when it asks for the location of a file.
2. According to bretton and others in this thread, you can use two USB drives rather than a USB + SD. You can also install Windows directly from the USB drive rather than copying the files over if you wish. I do not suggest installing Windows from an SD card, as data transfer rates from the card reader are pretty abysmal and it will take forever. Just bear in mind that if you install windows from a removable drive and you attempt to add/remove windows components, you will need to have the drive with your install files handy, as mentioned above.
3. Results may vary depending on which version of Windows you are installing. For this particular installation, I was using an OEM copy of XP Home SP2. I do not have the time or money to test many other versions of Windows, but it looks like several users have posted issues with their versions. Remember, for this method you should be using a full XP install, not an upgrade version.
4. Yes, you can use nLite on your install files, but be sure to retain the manual setup files. If you i386 folder does not contain the winnt.exe file, your install will be hosed.
5. Several users have posted a link to a relatively new method for installing XP with one USB drive. I haven't tried it, but the link is here for your convenience: http://www.eeeguides.com/2007/11/instal … thumb.html Obviously I can't comment on it or support it. Linked by oldpueblo, et al.
-Hanns
Last edited by Hanns (2008-01-07 3:01:59 pm)
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raoul
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Jul 14 2008, 09:28 AM
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QUOTE(lynsuxxx @ Jul 13 2008, 10:24 PM) hello fellas, I'm now looking for a small and light laptop as I travel a lot, and after some survey I plan to get a 900/ 901 by next 2 weeks, after I coming back from a trip. Some question to ask. May I know: a) what is the difference/s btw 900 and 901? 900 = Celeron 900, 901 = Atom 1.6Ghzb) my finger is bit rough, so may I know how many % smaller compared to a normal laptop keyboard? I'm not sure how many percent but 900/901 keyboard slighty smaller than Wind. c) what is the advantages over msi wind? I think the other way around...Wind better than 900 but might lost out slighty advantages to 901 due to 901 comes with 6 cell & Wind only 3 cell. Wind comes with 10" screen compares with 9" on the 900/901.
d) how do you guys format the window, since it don't have any cd-rom and how do you boot from usb? Not sure on this....you can google it.e) is the performance worth the price? We can't really compares it against the normal laptop cause you could get a decent normal laptop with better feature.....BUT the golden answer still lies in the mobility & lightness for the price of under RM2k.thanks. smile.gif This post has been edited by raoul: Jul 14 2008, 10:02 AM
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wKkaY
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Jul 14 2008, 02:01 PM
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misutā supākoru
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I had a big big burger the other day..
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beebee
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Jul 14 2008, 02:32 PM
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actually *** guys think installing XP is better or eeebuntu/ubuntu, what do you guys install in ur eee ?
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ajay67
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Jul 14 2008, 03:33 PM
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actually for most of us, since we are more familiar with XP (including familiar softwares) , we want all our PCs to be in XP. if u r happy with ubuntu, what it has & software support, then u can use ubuntu. if i get my eee pc, i'll use XP, then all those familiar programs like star office, firefox, VLC, picassa, then for games i just plan to use emulation software like the one for GBA & N64. i think that's about it..
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jamezco
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Jul 14 2008, 03:46 PM
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wkkay .... yumm...... i wanna eat ur asus ... bwahahaha xD
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techhuan
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Jul 14 2008, 08:27 PM
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Just wandering, is the linux in 700 series the same as the linux on 900 series? Can I get a windows XP 900 series and add the linux from 700 series for a dual boot?
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Susuwatari
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Jul 15 2008, 10:15 AM
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techhuan,
You might want Ubuntu Eee instead of the original Xandros in eee. I am dual booting TinyXP and Ubuntu Eee on my 1000H.Can't comment on the performance wise as I am still in the midst of configuring it... busy busy.
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techhuan
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Jul 15 2008, 10:55 AM
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Thanks Susuwatari,
I want to let my daughter use the simple linux that comes with the EEE PC. I particularly like the menu/icon driven interface. Also I assume the Xandros in EEE PC has been pre-configured for EEE PC with no driver issues. Can Ubuntu EEE work with no driver issue?
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