Since the timing is quite free, and Petster told me it depends on the crowd, so everything should be ok. Yups, KP will be partnering with me on Sunday, Saturday most likely Reanne....

Ohhh.... Bonai's gf... LOL.... aiyah, I cannot remember names. My brain too many of my pets names. Sometimes I go around and bump into LYN people, kinda malu that they can recognize me and my name, but my brain becomes blur and clueless when I meet them

My goodness.... cousin's wedding not important ke? HAhaha.... glider pulak more important.

Wah, creative ler. Good stuff. Tu plastic mesh ke wire mesh?

Your gliders tak shred up the fake plants? Coz mine do, wasted money only.

Mosquito tend is dangerous for gliders. Their nails can get trapped if they manage to grab it and more problems will just come about like injury....



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Rope, so far my gliders love climbing and hanging from those ropes... 1 meter Rm1.50.... wonder where I can get a cheap whole reel or wheel of those ropes.

Why you ask such thing? They are gliders, not hamsters.... what food can be taken and cannot be taken by gliders already listed on the 1st page....

Those mozzie tent cannot wan lah. Firstly it is cloth-like, means it can tear and trap claws.... use PVC mesh lah. Bonai never ajar you meh?

Coz he bought from you, assuming he got ask you bout DIY mah since you are kinda good at DIY and you provide after sales service

Actually, I think alot of newbies lack in reading. This thread got so many past postings on DIY... why so malas to refer back rite? There is already a search button, can always type in DIY...



This post has been edited by crazymouse_yyh: May 27 2008, 01:36 AM

1st page banyak info but never look... alot of this happen in other thread also, which is why sometimes I also get annoyed, frustrated and irritated coz it took us days to come up with the 1st page info....

HAhah... I missed this post. This is how a 7.5 week and 9 week old glider looks like. Mikozai, I hope you refer back to Pennywise's picture and look. Compare it with your joeys.

Mikozai, I hope you refer back to Pennywise's picture and look. Compare it with your joeys. Sickly.... is not mean sick like fever and diarrhea.... sickly means the condition. Fur, body structure, means not develop nicely lah and it can bring about problems later in it's life. I'm not the breeder so I do not know what kinda treatment it got.... but this is why we are concern and you should open your eyes a bit to hear our advice.

Breeders and keepers who care for their gliders and joeys sold would only visit this thread. Where are the other sellers then? I don't see other LYN sellers coming in to share their experience. They may give excuses like "no need lah", all rubbish lah or waste time lah.... but this is the way for you to find a dedicated breeder and seller. Well, you already bought so I won't say much anymore.... Just that hear and understand what we senior keepers are telling you coz our experience is loaded with our hours of research and proper care.

Mana you dapat? Endangered lah....

There is also the Biak Glider, coming from the Biak Island.... we may have them since our gliders are normally from Indonesia.... but there is so little research and practically no pictures online, hard to know how it looks like.

The genus Petaurus:


Petaurus australis - Yellow Bellied Glider


Petaurus gracilis- Mahogany Glider


Petaurus norfolcensis - Squirrel Glider

-no pic found-
Petaurus biacensis - Biak Glider

-no pic found-
Petaurus abidi - Northern Glider



Petaurus breviceps - Sugar Glider

There are 7 subspecies of petaurus breviceps

* P. b. breviceps (Waterhouse, 1839)
* P. b. longicaudatus (Longman, 1924)
* P. b. ariel (Gould, 1842)
* P. b. flavidus (Tate & Archbold, 1935)
* P. b. papuanus (Thomas, 1888)
* P. b. tafa (Tate & Archbold, 1935)
* P. b. biacensis (Ulmer, 1940)

Its hard to find the other pictures. Google, looking at those zoo record sites. Hard lah but I manage to get those few. It's even harder to find the sub species of breviceps.

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Added on May 27, 2008, 3:38 pmAlot of petshops do not care about the welfare of the glider and joeys for sale and breeding. To them, they are only money. The adults are their profit machines, the adults are like Rm70 cost to them, so if they breed out a few joeys, and the adult dies from sickness, its ok for for them coz the joey covers their cost and gives them some profit. With lousy rotten food and cheap low quality dogfood, they do earn some money.

There are good petshops which care for them, but this is just so rare. So far I only know Pet Shack. Too bad I can't go to Pet Shack today.

This post has been edited by crazymouse_yyh: May 27 2008, 03:38 PM

Sugar gliders are curious by nature, so if one escapes, you gotta be careful. They will get excited and explore trees. This is IF it escapes outside, there is little chance of finding it back.

If your glider escaped inside your home, then search everywhere. Even if it normally respond to your whistle, when they escape, they won't respond at all. When mine free ranges and finds a place to sleep, they won't respond to my callings or crab coz they feel comfortable. Search bookcases, cupboards, clothes, towel racks, drawers, plastic bags.... My uncle's maid accidentally forgot to close my glider's cage when she thought she should feed them(I didn't ask her to feed them). 2 gliders escaped. I search high and low, shake every thing but no crabbing or sight of them. But the maid caught them back. How? Firstly, I told her to help me at night. Gliders will come out for food at night, so that is the perfect time to catch or find them. This is when inside your house lah.

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SERIOUS INFO!

I wonder if you guys know this..... Sugar gliders normally live in a small group. Normally in the wild, about 2 to 3 males to about 4 females. Out of those males, only 1 breeds with ALL the females. So don't care is daughter or what, will breed. In the wild young females can go to other groups so not too bad lah, the risk of inbreeding is not so high.

In the wild, females have have joeys twice. They mate around June to July and late November.... but in captivity... pitiful, they breed all year round if the breeder is those commercial breeder. How come? Simple, they separate the joeys young. Why? Coz once the joey is away from the mom, the mother glider would come into season and breed again. That is why the suppliers can have so many joeys for sale, that is why almost all supplier stock are underage joeys coz of this breeding cycle. Don't you think cruel? Tires out the female so much.

Should never keep cats and gliders in the same room, same with dogs unless your dog is the kind of breed that won't attack small animals. But never leave gliders with dogs and cats without supervision.

Good that it is getting easier. Like I said, all it takes is a bit of time and love heheheh. Give another month or 2 of bonding, then I am sure you can have them clinging on to your shoulder without jumping away.

Yogurt, you can cut it down to twice a week, it doesn't need to be fed everyday. Try and get hold of Ciku, some gliders like. The only sort of fruits I have fed Moka and Luna before I handed them to you is apple, pear, mango, plum, carrot, cherry tomato, rambutan.

Wah, so many things at night. I normally feed fruits 1 night, next night dried dogfood and slurp with mealworms. I guess almost same lah. Tonight is fruits for my babies hahah. I just bought mango and jambu air for them.

This is plum loh.

Babyfood? You mean the jar babyfood? That is best not give too much coz the nutrients is low. The best is still fresh fruits and gliderSLURP.

Anyway, try and get hold of water chestnuts. Just get sweet nice fruits from the fruit seller, you can even try guava on them but I dunno if they will eat or not. LOL.

Dried dogfood is kibble, but your joeys still not old enough to chew on kibble, and normally if we soak in water or juice they don't really like. Wait for another month, then offer a kibble for them to taste. Limit to only 1 piece of kibble per day. I use Orijen coz is the safest along with Eaglepack Holistic.

Papaya, jambu air and sugar apples are high in calcium.

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Added on May 27, 2008, 11:51 pm
This is a sugar apple, also known as custard apple. Grown locally, very sweet and tasty. My gliders love it.

This post has been edited by crazymouse_yyh: May 27 2008, 11:51 PM

For me I gotta alternate coz they always attack Slurp first. So I give alternately. Best thing is that they will finish 3 bowls of fruits. Heheheh.... that stainless steel bowl, imagine 3 bowls for 4 gliders, all bowls full till wanna tumpah. I tried 4 bowls but they would have leftovers, so 3 bowls so far so good.

Forgot, crickets have slightly more protein than mealworms.... but then mealworms very high in fat. These days crickets can easily get contaminated if the petshop buys crappy crickets to sell, so it is ok to just stick to mealworms, as long you don't go overboard with feeding and always gutload.

Kena loh.... my siggy damn outdated.... kena make it attractive a bit. Hahah., I still need to do more thumbnails for my website and other stuff.

Skin never eat is ok, normal lah. Gliders don't like to eat the skin. You can try boiled egg. Yes, remove the shell.

Custard Apple, you gotta remove the seeds, coz this fruit has plenty of seeds but so goody goody sweet that it feels like sugar in the mouth. I love custard apples.

Yes, the best is blending with slurp... but slurp already got eggs loh LOL. Anyway, my gliders would only eat the yolk.... whites all leave. So another way to feed egg is scrambled eggs but then must cook without oil lah.

Casper is just under develop I think... Anyway, if you are coming to the talk, I can check. If not, I will be at Pet Shack tomorrow to do SLURP delivery at around 3 to 4pm....

Slurp can mix with milk, no problem.

Fruit, you should not put water into the fruits coz it can cause bacteria to build up. Those fruit sellers put salt water, coz bacteria don't like salt but your gliders cannot take salt in that way too, it can cause kidney problems. If the fruit dries, then just cut and give more fruits. This is why I prefer to feed fruits at night, coz it won't dry so fast like daytime. Night time is cool.

You kena buat name card juga hahahah.

When I boarded your 4 monsters, they tak makan banyak. I guess they missed you so not much of an appetite.

No, we cannot say out names.... we can touch on things about how suppliers breed out so many joeys and how they sell them to petshops and middleman sellers, but that is it.

Barking, is normally calling one another for alerting and also for communication with other gliders. Since no other gliders, so they are just calling out to you loh. It's normal anyway.

NO HONEY! Your joeys are young lah, did I mention to wait till it is older? I already mention this in the past few post to Pennywise and what honey can do and should wait another 2 months before can feed honey......

The one thing good and sweet for gliders is Agave nectar, but this is only sold at certain Jusco supermarkets under the organic section.

Did we say blend mealworms? In the past post, we already discussed on how to introduce mealworms.

Joeys can start tasting works when they are fully weaned and it takes introduction. No one blends mealworms, it spoils faster and is quite disgusting.