but sometime when i give fruit to him...

he not go to eat the fruit 1st...

but chewing my finger 1st....

i also become confused...

but i like he chewing my finger...

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Added on June 18, 2008, 5:22 pmehh... mana 1 rrr yg best bela??

SG, ferret or hedghog???

sajer jer nak tanya....

This post has been edited by ReBeLLioN: Jun 18 2008, 05:22 PM

How to use sieve to screen out dead mealworms from the live mealworms? Can??

This post has been edited by silverwineus: Jun 18 2008, 05:36 PM

Hello guys!
im new here.

early of july im gonna buy joey (when i got my salary) maybe a pair of them. (if the price are good)

this is a very useful topic for beginner who want to own their Suggies.

thank you for the information

How come?

Only Mealworm in wet condition cannot tahan, but normally mine can last very long, kurang pun one week lebih..

hazzy welcome to this thread....

i also a little bit new here....

Guys guys! meal worms in malay what does it call erh?
normally kedai burung boleh dapat punyer kan?

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Added on June 18, 2008, 5:46 pmthank you ReBeLLioN

This post has been edited by hazzy: Jun 18 2008, 05:46 PM

Make sure you don't make mistake in getting a underaged joeys? K? Joeys will come out from the pouch (OOP) after 2 months, and need nursing by their parents for another 2 to 3 months, before it's right time for you to take home.

Welcome to the pool of knowlege of suggies, a station for suggies lovers that cannot be missed..

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Added on June 18, 2008, 5:50 pmUlat la..what else rite? hehe..

This post has been edited by silverwineus: Jun 18 2008, 05:50 PM

ala ckp jer meal worms.... diaorg paham punya....

The dead ones I normally remove one by one...

The sieve is just to sieve the poop!





Mealworm kat kedai ikan mesti ada.

Cakap nak beli "ulat" aje


KP

Eyh! really? because i want to buy joeys from this one guy that i found on LYN too the nick is Nonono
i called and talk to him on the phone last night. he selling to me joeys that 3-4 weeks old. he said he might teach how to nursing the joeys, do u think i can believe him? he said too that its not a problem because the younger the suggies, the suggies might get to know u well


Bahah! okeh. thank you bro.

This post has been edited by hazzy: Jun 18 2008, 06:02 PM

Kat petswonderland also hav...

100gm = RM5.00

but boleh minta separuh.. 50gm = RM2.50, byk gak..

I always buy at Great Eastern Mall pets wonderland coz near at my house.

DO NOT GET JOEYS ANY YOUNGER THAN 7 or 8 WEEKS OLD.

IF THE SELLER TELLS YOU TO NURSE THE JOEY, STEP AWAY IMMEDIATELY.

THE JOEY YOU PURCHASE SHOULD BE FULLY WEANED AND DOES NOT REQUIRE HUMAN NURSING ANYMORE.

KP

alaaaaaaaaa really? but he is selling really cheap. like RM250 only each. do u know where else can i get a cheap suggies, because 1 of my friend from indon, he said suggies there will cost you RM10

Nonono, i thought he's radiata fan. But anyway, you should ask for more clarification until all your doubts are settled, this is ..hmm..comsumer rights.

You shouldn't get "3 - 4 weeks joeys" but rather " 2 months OPP joeys", there is a huge difference.

The former is 4 weeks old but the latter is 4 months..

sorryla, my explanation

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Added on June 18, 2008, 6:17 pmIs that correct? i'm confused now la..

This post has been edited by silverwineus: Jun 18 2008, 06:17 PM

Bahah i dont really understand, but its helpful thank you
anyway, what is OPP and radiata?

and do u have any suggies to sell?

In Indon is appx. RM50 lar.

And those are WILD CAUGHT, meaning WILD, NASTY and GARANG... Do you think for RM50 is worth it?

Wild caughts are selling for as low as RM80 here(if you buy more than 10)

Cheap doesn't guarantee quality.

Despite my warning, if you still wanna try get an under age and nurse yourself, be my guest.

But I have received news from new owners about dead and dying underaged joeys almost 1 every week.

Nursing a joey is not advisable at all unless on extreme cases such as the parents reject it.

PLEASE read more before even getting one.

Get to understand WHY we advise NOT to get under aged joeys... WHY they need to stay with their parents until fully weaned...

PLEASE, I beg you to read more.

KP

Hey bro.. hazzy,

If the joey is seperated from their mother too young, you know what's the consequence?

They have INTERNAL problem that you can't see, such as bad immune system, improper development of digestive system etc..

Big problem you know...

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Added on June 18, 2008, 6:24 pm

radiata is tortoise.

OOP is Out Of Pouch.



This post has been edited by silverwineus: Jun 18 2008, 06:58 PM

Thank you sis, i prefer quality for sure can u suggest me a good seller of suggies?
i dont want my suggies to be dead in less of 15 years at least


thank you for ur information i dont get the short form sorry

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Added on June 18, 2008, 6:30 pmIt's like this. I will explain once again.

You shouldn't get 3-4 weeks old joeys. The proper age is 3-4 months or we call it 2 mths OOP.

Why 4 months?

The first two months, they are IN the pouch.

The next two months, they MUST stay with their parents, so their parents will take PROPER care of them and nurse them, not you.

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Added on June 18, 2008, 6:43 pmGood home breeder:

1) bonai

2) crazymouse_yyh

*ala..my list limited je*



This post has been edited by silverwineus: Jun 18 2008, 06:43 PM

You can bring anywhere but always in a bonding pouch. If you go Ikano, no need pouch also ok. I let mine sit on my shoulder.

Wah.... I so happy to hear my SLURP is so well loved by most gliders heheheh. BTW, your Bubba is getting cuter and cuter everyday. Just now a few forum people came over, they had a sneak peek of Bubba, he was so adorable hugging my finger.

Yours memang suka fruits more than SLURP. Funny hahaha... but is good lah.

Really like GliderYOGURTEES and GliderFRUITSICLES? Then I make bigger container for you heheheh.

Wah, then no need gf lah. Your glider can be your gf hahahah.

He chew your finger to main main a bit lah. Some of them show affection that way.

Each animal is special. Glider got different personality and ways to care. Ferret is more outgoing and cat-like. Hedgehog is more solitary and prefer to have short handlings and play time. So it depends on you actually, see which pet suits you. Not really the point of which is the best to bela.

Dead ones I normally use forceps to pick out. You can only sieve out the poop.

Wahhhhh....3 to 4 weeks? CRAZYYYYY!!!!! Please do not fall for price. This is such an irresponsible seller. DO NOT GET FROM HIM or anyone who says he will teach you how to nurse.

Any joey that doesn't get the milk and care from the mom will:

- have health problems when older
- will not grow properly, some may become stunted while some may be late bloomers
- there are no milk suitable for gliders sold in Malaysia. I have 1 pack of Wombaroo joey milk but that is my personal stash for emergencies. This milk cannot be imported by shipment, so no one would be able to get it unless they have someone buy and bring it back from Aussie.
- There is a chance of a shorter lifespan
- 50% of joeys that are bought underage dies

This is from personal findings. I get people emailing me and calling me bout their problems. Joeys die in 1 month, 2 days, 1 week.... why???? Same reason.... UNDERAGE. All either get from sellers like that guy or from suppliers or from Ikano.....

When you buy a pet, you shouldn't go for the cheapest. Cheap means there would be a problem. If you buy a joey for RM250 but it dies.... rugi Rm250 rite? If you buy RM300 but it grows healthy and lives long, worth it rite?

About young being closer to bond..... 8 weeks out of pouch is considered the best age and young. Anything younger is coz they are vulnerable, and are babies. Of course all babies look cute, have no sense of danger and are sticky to people coz they are afraid. Don't jump into the same group of people say their glider just died.

RM10.... is after you convert. If you do not convert, the money value is the same..... and RM10 is the WILD ones. Majority of my friends are indonesians.... and they have told me. Don't believe can ask Muchan, she is indonesian and she has seen the difference between our gliders and the ones sold in Indonesia.

Yups, The proper age is actually 4 months old since born. But then we normally go with In Pouch and Out Of Pouch age. 2 months IP, 2 months OOP. Many people make this mistake, never understanding the right age. I pity the people who have bought from unethical sellers. They go through bad experience..... dead joeys.... some die in 1 week, some die in 1 day.... some die after 1 month.... is a pity coz all this won't come about if they had bought a right age joey from the proper breeder.

One thing about home breeders. ALOT do not understand our concept.

WE LOVE OUR GLIDERS. We never treat them as breeding machines. We let our gliders have 2 litters of joeys a year.... each time is either 1 joey or 2 joeys.... so in a year we can only have 2 to 4 joeys from 1 pair of gliders. Sometimes if the female is very fertile, it can be 3 litters. Suppliers, commercial breeders breed their gliders with small cages, coconut hides, apples and dogfood to eat. They snatch the joeys before 2 months OOP to make the females breed faster, making them breed 4 to 5 times a year. This kills the female slowly. To a commercial breeder, 1 loss is ok if he gains 8 joeys in a year from 1 female.... to them is money money money, sales sales sales.

Home breeders have limited breeding pairs. We can only have a few joeys for sale in a year or in a span of few months. That is why we have a waiting list. If you are keen to get from a good breeder, you need to have the patience to wait. Many people have waited and they are thankful to have gotten healthy joeys than sickly joeys that die in a few moments. Rm300 to Rm350 is really worth it as you get alot of after service stuff, guaranteed a healthy joey and we have a big pool of knowledge to share. Sometimes we breeders get annoyed easily but bare with us. We have gotten so many types of PMs and funny funny questions that we are tired of repeating.

Do your research 1st. Never get on impulse because cheap, because cute, because breeder or seller is your friend and offer you big discount or free..... never never make a mistake with a glider.