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rickyrich
post Feb 2 2012, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(jaesern @ Feb 2 2012, 11:22 AM)
hi rickyrich,
1. the power window can only wind down automatic, wind up u need to hold the switch.
2. try to remove ur spare tire then ur hand can access into beneath of the seat, try to search/look around there by putting ur hand in...
3. did u change ur steering wheel to smaller size? use diff size tire? use diff rim size? if no, send to a workshop, something is wrong with the power steering pump or steering rack. imho, try power steering fluid change first before the pump and rack.
4. yes it's normal, my kenari on empty tank can only pump around that also, i guess the balance should be the reserve tank.
5. previously my driver side door have weird sound also, but no idea mine and urs are the same, my solution by using duct tape to stick my door lock hinges on chassis side; anyway, send to a mechanic that u trustable will be good, make sure he doesn't do funny funny stuff, and sorry to say but i have no confidence perodua sc can solve it.

hope my info helps!  icon_rolleyes.gif
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thanks jaesern, your info really use for me..
1) that rims already change. i don 't know what size is that? but for your opinion kenari steering should be smooth?? because this unit kenari i can not use single hand to make u turn / parking, quite heavy!. yours can?
2) for that no 2 is it means the connecter just hiding inside seat ?? have to pull it up after remove the spare tire??
3) full tank can run 400+- km , normal??

This post has been edited by rickyrich: Feb 2 2012, 02:34 PM
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post Feb 2 2012, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(Zack Styler @ Feb 1 2012, 10:53 PM)
Probably the compressor is gonna spoil soon I think, happened to me before..
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thx bro.. i think i need to ask some mechanic to check it again !
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QUOTE(rickyrich @ Feb 2 2012, 02:21 PM)
thanks jaesern, your info really use for me..
1) that rims already change. i don 't know what size is that? but for your opinion kenari steering should be smooth?? because this unit kenari i can not use single hand to make u turn / parking, quite heavy!. yours can?
2) for that no 2 is it means the connecter just hiding inside seat ?? have to pull it up after remove the spare tire??
3) full tank can run 400+- km , normal??
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full tank how much ?
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post Feb 2 2012, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(blueskylim @ Feb 2 2012, 08:39 PM)
full tank how much ?
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post Feb 3 2012, 02:41 AM

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QUOTE(rickyrich @ Feb 2 2012, 02:21 PM)
thanks jaesern, your info really use for me..
1) that rims already change. i don 't know what size is that? but for your opinion kenari steering should be smooth?? because this unit kenari i can not use single hand to make u turn / parking, quite heavy!. yours can?
2) for that no 2 is it means the connecter just hiding inside seat ?? have to pull it up after remove the spare tire??
3) full tank can run 400+- km , normal??
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u r welcome! rclxms.gif
1. for my car, i change it to smaller steering wheel + myvi se rim which is wider (14X5JJ), original kenari is on 14X4.5JJ, so my steering wheel is heavier then usual; for ur case, maybe u can check what wheel size u r using, take a photo of the whole wheel and post here, then everyone can help, to notify whether it's wheel's prob or power steering prob. for ur question, if everything is alright and stock condition, the steering wheel is smooth.
2. not to say hide, the connector might dropped inside, so just remove the spare tire and use a torch light then u can find it; if not, it's removed.
3. wow ur auto runs 400+-km? it's nice to hear that! mine can only run 300+, so 400+-km is consider good for a kenari! thumbup.gif
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post Feb 3 2012, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(jaesern @ Feb 3 2012, 02:41 AM)
u r welcome!  rclxms.gif
1. for my car, i change it to smaller steering wheel + myvi se rim which is wider (14X5JJ), original kenari is on 14X4.5JJ, so my steering wheel is heavier then usual; for ur case, maybe u can check what wheel size u r using, take a photo of the whole wheel and post here, then everyone can help, to notify whether it's wheel's prob or power steering prob. for ur question, if everything is alright and stock condition, the steering wheel is smooth.
2. not to say hide, the connector might dropped inside, so just remove the spare tire and use a torch light then u can find it; if not, it's removed.
3. wow ur auto runs 400+-km? it's nice to hear that! mine can only run 300+, so 400+-km is consider good for a kenari!  thumbup.gif
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hi morning jaesern, rclxms.gif
i went to tire shop & they take out for me the connection seat belt already .
about the rims saiz they told me that is 14" as same as original one.
they have test drive my car & tell me that normal for steering.
so i think all my problem solved !
now just only left the door sound , they can't know where it from, because after uncovering the door inside is nothing wrong,
haih..
about the fuel, more accurate is about 350+- la...
anyway i like this car !! quality quite solid !!
compare with my new car, nissan teana, that is worse quality !!!
anyway, thanks jaesern. thumbup.gif
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post Feb 6 2012, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(jaesern @ Feb 3 2012, 02:41 AM)
u r welcome!  rclxms.gif
1. for my car, i change it to smaller steering wheel + myvi se rim which is wider (14X5JJ), original kenari is on 14X4.5JJ, so my steering wheel is heavier then usual; for ur case, maybe u can check what wheel size u r using, take a photo of the whole wheel and post here, then everyone can help, to notify whether it's wheel's prob or power steering prob. for ur question, if everything is alright and stock condition, the steering wheel is smooth.
2. not to say hide, the connector might dropped inside, so just remove the spare tire and use a torch light then u can find it; if not, it's removed.
3. wow ur auto runs 400+-km? it's nice to hear that! mine can only run 300+, so 400+-km is consider good for a kenari!  thumbup.gif
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my rims is wider than yrs at 14x6.0JJ but didn't feel heavy at all. steering wheel is ori.


Added on February 6, 2012, 10:32 am
QUOTE(rickyrich @ Feb 3 2012, 03:34 PM)
hi morning jaesern,  rclxms.gif
i went to tire shop & they take out for me the connection seat belt already .
about the rims saiz they told me that is 14" as same as original one.
they have test drive my car & tell me that normal for steering.
so i think all my problem solved !
now just only left the door sound , they can't know where it from, because after uncovering the door inside is nothing wrong,
haih..
about the fuel, more accurate is about 350+- la...
anyway i like this car !! quality quite solid !!
compare with my new car, nissan teana, that is worse quality !!!
anyway, thanks jaesern. thumbup.gif
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normally for these kinda sound, need time to check it. btw, it is rattling sound?

This post has been edited by kllam: Feb 6 2012, 10:32 AM
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post Feb 6 2012, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(kllam @ Feb 6 2012, 11:29 AM)
my rims is wider than yrs at 14x6.0JJ but didn't feel heavy at all. steering wheel is ori.
Bro, i dont recommend that the rim width is too wide.. if not mistaken the 14/6.0JJ is for bigger cars using at least 175/185 thread tyre...

Ours the most is 165/55/R14, the most ideal sport rim is 14/5.0JJ (Ori is 14/4.5JJ or 13/4.5JJ)

Why using wider rims is bad? Can you notice that your rim is larger then ur tyre? When u do cornering, the rims will contact the road and not ur tyre and the outcome is ur sport rim will easier to bengkok or crack especially kena pot holes... sweat.gif

Same as if your sport rim is smaller then ur tyre (Saw ppl using 175/50/R13 on ori 13/4.5JJ rims), when kena pot holes or uneven road surface.. Your car will like a sampan swinging around and not so stable especially during high speed driving at highway...

If you dont want to feel heavy, go find those light weight sport rims but in the correct diameter.. A lot of tyre shop are not professional to advice you the correct tyre & sport rims and just want $$$ in their pocket only..

This post has been edited by littlefire: Feb 6 2012, 05:58 PM
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post Feb 7 2012, 11:37 PM

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bros!

i am looking for front bumper for my kenari, it's quite old already la.. you know how much estimate is for a kenari bumper?

thanks a lot ler!! then my car engine got some sound.. when i accelerate, the engine make some squeaky sound.. any ideas?? should i use wd40?
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post Feb 8 2012, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Feb 6 2012, 05:51 PM)
Bro, i dont recommend that the rim width is too wide.. if not mistaken the 14/6.0JJ is for bigger cars using at least 175/185 thread tyre...

Ours the most is 165/55/R14, the most ideal sport rim is 14/5.0JJ (Ori is 14/4.5JJ or 13/4.5JJ)

Why using wider rims is bad? Can you notice that your rim is larger then ur tyre? When u do cornering, the rims will contact the road and not ur tyre and the outcome is ur sport rim will easier to bengkok or crack especially kena pot holes...  sweat.gif

Same as if your sport rim is smaller then ur tyre (Saw ppl using 175/50/R13 on ori 13/4.5JJ rims), when kena pot holes or uneven road surface.. Your car will like a sampan swinging around and not so stable especially during high speed driving at highway... 

If you dont want to feel heavy, go find those light weight sport rims but in the correct diameter.. A lot of tyre shop are not professional to advice you the correct tyre & sport rims and just want $$$ in their pocket only..
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this is so wrong...

wider wheels help stretch the tire a lil bit to give a bigger contact patch hence give better traction...

as for the cornering part.....mana ada! i used to use 6.5" wheels with 165 tires... took corners like nobody's business oso never touch the road la...

pothole and uneven road will give sampan feel?? again not true... again more well planted... this part is more to do with ur suspension.

plus...it looks hell of alot better too compared to thinner wheels... makes the tires etc looks skimpy...

and if ur wondering why i said "used to use"...its coz i sold the car.



if ur wheels are too thin n ur tire is wide, trust me ull get massive tire wall flex during corners....i know coz i felt a difference when switching from ori stock 13" perodua wheels to 13" proton wheels which is slightly wider.... but still retained the same tires

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post Feb 8 2012, 12:52 AM

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May I know for Kenari (Auto),
the Timing Belt consists of what items to replace ?
Is it must come in SETS ?
or combination of few items ?

Someone told something like.... Timing Belt & Timing Belt Seals.
Is this 2 different items ? or else ?

Thanks.
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post Feb 8 2012, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Feb 8 2012, 01:39 AM)
this is so wrong...

wider wheels help stretch the tire a lil bit to give a bigger contact patch hence give better traction...

as for the cornering part.....mana ada! i used to use 6.5" wheels with 165 tires... took corners like nobody's business oso never touch the road la...

pothole and uneven road will give sampan feel?? again not true... again more well planted... this part is more to do with ur suspension.

plus...it looks hell of alot better too compared to thinner wheels... makes the tires etc looks skimpy...

and if ur wondering why i said "used to use"...its coz i sold the car.
if ur wheels are too thin n ur tire is wide, trust me ull get massive tire wall flex during corners....i know coz i felt a difference when switching from ori stock 13" perodua wheels to 13" proton wheels which is slightly wider.... but still retained the same tires
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Bro, just visit the michelin website and check it yourself...

http://www.michelin.com.my/Home/Products-S...Car/PilotSport3

For each tyre they have their limit on the rims, tyre shop do have this chart.

Size 185/55 R15
Load Index 82
Speed Index V
Maximum load (kg) 475
Section width (mm) 194
Overall diameter (mm) 585
Rolling Circ. (mm) 1784
Minimum rim width (inches) 5
Recommended rim width (inches) 6
Maximum rim width (inches) 6.5


If your tyre spec is over then the recommended rim width, anything happen good luck laa.. brows.gif

Anyway size 185/55 R15 tyre max rim width is 6.5", and urs is 165?!?

This post has been edited by littlefire: Feb 8 2012, 09:15 AM
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Feb 8 2012, 09:14 AM)
Bro, just visit the michelin website and check it yourself...

http://www.michelin.com.my/Home/Products-S...Car/PilotSport3

For each tyre they have their limit on the rims, tyre shop do have this chart.

Size 185/55 R15
Load Index 82
Speed Index V
Maximum load (kg) 475
Section width (mm) 194
Overall diameter (mm) 585
Rolling Circ. (mm) 1784
Minimum rim width (inches) 5
Recommended rim width (inches) 6
Maximum rim width (inches) 6.5


If your tyre spec is over then the recommended rim width, anything happen good luck laa..  brows.gif

Anyway size 185/55 R15 tyre max rim width is 6.5", and urs is 165?!?
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165/50/15 on 15x6.5...u know..kenaris and kelisas using 15"? those tires la...so many people using it already... no issues oso...


no need to visit website... manufacturers will usually under-state to protect themselves against anything la...just like how manufacturers will run the engine rich to ensure reliability etc.

my points above still stands and are still valid as most of them are not only based on other people's experiences...but my own as well. had that setup for about 3-4 years... and the proton 13" rims were was about 3 years before moving on to the 15"
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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Feb 8 2012, 01:06 PM)
165/50/15 on 15x6.5...u know..kenaris and kelisas using 15"? those tires la...so many people using it already... no issues oso...
no need to visit website... manufacturers will usually under-state to protect themselves against anything la...just like how manufacturers will run the engine rich to ensure reliability etc.

my points above still stands and are still valid as most of them are not only based on other people's experiences...but my own as well. had that setup for about 3-4 years... and the proton 13" rims were was about 3 years before moving on to the 15"
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Bro, you are lucky if your tyre/rims did not have issues.. But since i have personally involve in a tyre shop be4, do you know that some new tyre/rims do have warranty? A lot of time, people do come complain when their tyre explode or bengkak, rims bengkok, crack bla bla bla..

What i know from my experience, if your rims, tyre is not in par of the recommended spec, the warranty can void.. They will ask the shop to check your air pressure, year manufactured, rim size & width.. Just ask those which claim from Continental be4, they will know how detail when they come to do inspection...

Yup, there is a reason why those spec are there! If not why they hire so many engineers for what? rolleyes.gif

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guess im not the only one whos lucky... hundreds, if not thousands others are lucky too....

i even have a few friends running 165/50 on 7jj wheels.....they are also lucky
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Bro, i dont want to say anything more. But is good that you can do comparison if you have a few set of sport rims and test it out.

Since i already left the tyre shop and venture to other sector, i can just said that if the wheels diameter is not important, why there is this kind of data provided by the tyre/rim manufacturer itself?

http://customwheelsmarket.com/rimwheelwidth1.html

Each tire has a specific rim width range on which the tire can be mounted. Failure to follow rim width recommendations may result in poor tire performance or possible wheel and/or tire failure.

Choosing a wheel near the middle of the range will give a balance between ride quality and handling. A wider wheel will improve handling at the expense of ride quality, while a narrower wheel will improve ride quality at the expense of handling. Consider these compromises when selecting wheels.

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Hi all,

I've 1 Kenari year 2000 auto transmission to sell off, guaranteed best price and test drive available, please PM me if interested. I'm from Penang Island. Thank you!
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Feb 8 2012, 04:37 PM)
Bro, i dont want to say anything more. But is good that you can do comparison if you have a few set of sport rims and test it out.

Since i already left the tyre shop and venture to other sector, i can just said that if the wheels diameter is not important, why there is this kind of data provided by the tyre/rim manufacturer itself?

http://customwheelsmarket.com/rimwheelwidth1.html

Each tire has a specific rim width range on which the tire can be mounted. Failure to follow rim width recommendations may result in poor tire performance or possible wheel and/or tire failure.

Choosing a wheel near the middle of the range will give a balance between ride quality and handling. A wider wheel will improve handling at the expense of ride quality, while a narrower wheel will improve ride quality at the expense of handling. Consider these compromises when selecting wheels.
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i using 165/55r14, is it ok?
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QUOTE(rickyrich @ Feb 9 2012, 02:43 AM)
i using 165/55r14, is it ok?
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What is your sport rim width? If between 4.5JJ to 5.5JJ should be no issue..

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Feb 9 2012, 09:33 AM)
What is your sport rim width? If between 4.5JJ to 5.5JJ should be no issue..
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i don't know , where i can check?

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