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littlefire
post Feb 6 2012, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(kllam @ Feb 6 2012, 11:29 AM)
my rims is wider than yrs at 14x6.0JJ but didn't feel heavy at all. steering wheel is ori.
Bro, i dont recommend that the rim width is too wide.. if not mistaken the 14/6.0JJ is for bigger cars using at least 175/185 thread tyre...

Ours the most is 165/55/R14, the most ideal sport rim is 14/5.0JJ (Ori is 14/4.5JJ or 13/4.5JJ)

Why using wider rims is bad? Can you notice that your rim is larger then ur tyre? When u do cornering, the rims will contact the road and not ur tyre and the outcome is ur sport rim will easier to bengkok or crack especially kena pot holes... sweat.gif

Same as if your sport rim is smaller then ur tyre (Saw ppl using 175/50/R13 on ori 13/4.5JJ rims), when kena pot holes or uneven road surface.. Your car will like a sampan swinging around and not so stable especially during high speed driving at highway...

If you dont want to feel heavy, go find those light weight sport rims but in the correct diameter.. A lot of tyre shop are not professional to advice you the correct tyre & sport rims and just want $$$ in their pocket only..

This post has been edited by littlefire: Feb 6 2012, 05:58 PM
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post Feb 8 2012, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Feb 8 2012, 01:39 AM)
this is so wrong...

wider wheels help stretch the tire a lil bit to give a bigger contact patch hence give better traction...

as for the cornering part.....mana ada! i used to use 6.5" wheels with 165 tires... took corners like nobody's business oso never touch the road la...

pothole and uneven road will give sampan feel?? again not true... again more well planted... this part is more to do with ur suspension.

plus...it looks hell of alot better too compared to thinner wheels... makes the tires etc looks skimpy...

and if ur wondering why i said "used to use"...its coz i sold the car.
if ur wheels are too thin n ur tire is wide, trust me ull get massive tire wall flex during corners....i know coz i felt a difference when switching from ori stock 13" perodua wheels to 13" proton wheels which is slightly wider.... but still retained the same tires
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Bro, just visit the michelin website and check it yourself...

http://www.michelin.com.my/Home/Products-S...Car/PilotSport3

For each tyre they have their limit on the rims, tyre shop do have this chart.

Size 185/55 R15
Load Index 82
Speed Index V
Maximum load (kg) 475
Section width (mm) 194
Overall diameter (mm) 585
Rolling Circ. (mm) 1784
Minimum rim width (inches) 5
Recommended rim width (inches) 6
Maximum rim width (inches) 6.5


If your tyre spec is over then the recommended rim width, anything happen good luck laa.. brows.gif

Anyway size 185/55 R15 tyre max rim width is 6.5", and urs is 165?!?

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post Feb 8 2012, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Feb 8 2012, 01:06 PM)
165/50/15 on 15x6.5...u know..kenaris and kelisas using 15"? those tires la...so many people using it already... no issues oso...
no need to visit website... manufacturers will usually under-state to protect themselves against anything la...just like how manufacturers will run the engine rich to ensure reliability etc.

my points above still stands and are still valid as most of them are not only based on other people's experiences...but my own as well. had that setup for about 3-4 years... and the proton 13" rims were was about 3 years before moving on to the 15"
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Bro, you are lucky if your tyre/rims did not have issues.. But since i have personally involve in a tyre shop be4, do you know that some new tyre/rims do have warranty? A lot of time, people do come complain when their tyre explode or bengkak, rims bengkok, crack bla bla bla..

What i know from my experience, if your rims, tyre is not in par of the recommended spec, the warranty can void.. They will ask the shop to check your air pressure, year manufactured, rim size & width.. Just ask those which claim from Continental be4, they will know how detail when they come to do inspection...

Yup, there is a reason why those spec are there! If not why they hire so many engineers for what? rolleyes.gif

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post Feb 8 2012, 04:37 PM

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Bro, i dont want to say anything more. But is good that you can do comparison if you have a few set of sport rims and test it out.

Since i already left the tyre shop and venture to other sector, i can just said that if the wheels diameter is not important, why there is this kind of data provided by the tyre/rim manufacturer itself?

http://customwheelsmarket.com/rimwheelwidth1.html

Each tire has a specific rim width range on which the tire can be mounted. Failure to follow rim width recommendations may result in poor tire performance or possible wheel and/or tire failure.

Choosing a wheel near the middle of the range will give a balance between ride quality and handling. A wider wheel will improve handling at the expense of ride quality, while a narrower wheel will improve ride quality at the expense of handling. Consider these compromises when selecting wheels.

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post Feb 9 2012, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(rickyrich @ Feb 9 2012, 02:43 AM)
i using 165/55r14, is it ok?
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What is your sport rim width? If between 4.5JJ to 5.5JJ should be no issue..

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post Feb 9 2012, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(rickyrich @ Feb 9 2012, 12:56 PM)
i don't know , where i can check?
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U need to take out your sport rim and look into it.. Normally stated behind the sport rim something like 14X4.5JJ/5JJ

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