Lol kara, serious business.

King83, Maiden got nerf very hard lah. About 2 patches ago.

She doesn't hit as hard anymore.

You just need better healers.

That! Or bring a resto shammy LOL.

Also, King, just because a server's population has higher range classes doesnt mean anything. When you take server-wide into consideration, you're looking at a bigger pool of retards, farmers, bots, casual players (who generally dont know shit).

it sure is, 22 badges man. f***ing serious business.

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Added on April 22, 2008, 10:04 pmare you being subtle?

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Apr 22 2008, 10:04 PM

Lol maiden... do you even need strats for her now?

my tank tanked her as arms/fury lol

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Added on April 23, 2008, 7:51 amYea range are crap for VR fights lol, but u need range to cc the trash mobs and heal. Hmm last time when i did aran (b4 welfare epics) we used to swap out our prot warrior for 1 dps in order to kill him b4 he went oom.

This post has been edited by orangbulu: Apr 23 2008, 07:51 AM

Your prot warrior need leet DPS offspec gear!

id keep the prot for sunder bot/bshout. cuz dps warrs (or other dps) wouldnt even bother buffin (or like rogues, have any buffs)

aran's a real awesome melee/physical oriented fight too, weak as hell on armor, no aggro threshold unless ur dumb enough to cc all 3 of his spells.

only bosses that sucks for melee is prolly prince, and *kinda* nightbane for a bit, when he flies, faggot casters/range just pew pew and melee sit there and cry. (spam ranging reminds me of shazzrah and its so not kewl, then again i took the effort to gear up 200+ arcane res and swore to never range shazz again )

ummm AH blueimba beams on netherspite zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

green beam ftw..

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Added on April 23, 2008, 10:06 amour prot war during our kara early days outdpsed all our range dpsers on aran...

This post has been edited by mainFrame: Apr 23 2008, 10:06 AM

hey hey i do that all the time haha tired laa waiting for stun to finish

and a geared ele shammy rocks in bgs. i dont want to be anywhere near em!

So people in T6 gear are laughing at people with pre kara gear and wipe at Maiden? No one ever remembered downing Maiden is a great achievement anymore?

Now noob grp can down Maiden I agree, but without UBER pvp gear (t6 quality with less damage/heal but more stam) do you think a 6k health meleer (without t4 or pvp gear) is a good choice to attempt Maiden?

erm, u dont need t4s or pvp gear to attempt maiden as a melee dps...
a grp with decent pre kara gears are fine enuff to down her on the first outing..

I've healed Maiden while still in Shadow spec many times. She has been nerf so much.

The problem with Kara is that it's the first raid instance for a lot of people who haven't raided before. I ran with a group of people who never raided before and they were making a lot of mistakes. Mostly raid beginner mistakes e.g. kill order, spell rotation/priority, healing rotation/priority. Once they've gotten that down to pat, Kara raids are goyang-kaki.

Kara is not the problem. It's the players having to do more homework and understand their class better.

After awhile talking to myremi, i realized she's the type that likes to say ppl don't understand their class no matter what.
If anything goes wrong, it's always bcos they don't understand their class or they don't read enough (her 2nd most overused quote).

You have to know, sometimes it's strat... it's easier to put it down in pen and paper, but executing the strategy is a whole new
ball game. Mindlessly going spartan on bosses just bcos you're overgeared is not a strat.

are you going down to king83's level? i hope not.

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Added on April 23, 2008, 11:19 amso, its a whole new ball game to stand still on a fight pressing 2-5 buttons? (since we're on the subject of maiden here)

seriously now, just stop breathing.

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Apr 23 2008, 11:19 AM

oh and u're so UBER ELITE cos u're all decked in welfare epics.

yeah on good crits and cooldowns, even my full s3 ass can be downed under 5 seconds. scary shits for sure.

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Added on April 23, 2008, 11:22 amsince its welfare you can be decked in full welfare epix too, so why cry about it?

oh wait, why didnt i remember, you're too stupid to even get welfare epix. dang.

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Apr 23 2008, 11:22 AM

It's 2 - 5 buttons to you becos u're not the one having incovenience.
I said inconvenience was to healers especially they gotta heal your ass and dispelling, on top of that u're
making tank take more damage cos of chain.... ranged at least can bandage themselves, can you?

You want me to stop breathing? heh, i'd like for you to say that in front of my face.
When is myremi's next gathering?

This post has been edited by King83: Apr 23 2008, 11:24 AM

Bcos Tanks Are the only ones that can't benefit from welfare epics.
Welfare epics are for DPS + healer classes nub.

Roll a tank.

and the healers also need a lot of strategy to heal my ass, and dispel, right? and somehow im chaining imaginary non-existing holy wrath to the tank?

and if ranged can bandage themselves, why cant a melee step out of holy ground and bandage? (only 5+ish yards distance) while bandage both melee/ranged cant dps anyways so they all on equal footing

seriously though, you got ownt on the internets and now you wanna take it to RL PVP? typical malaysian. but since your being so immature i dont mind it one bit. after all, i dont see myself out of shape when it comes to my RL physical build so if it has to come down to a brawl i could fare my own grounds.

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Added on April 23, 2008, 11:27 amand, tanks cant respec and dps right? paying 100g for specs when dailies are giving way more than that is also tough shits right?

anymore crying you wanna make?

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Apr 23 2008, 11:27 AM