can you even make a decent attempt at trying to use your brain? even though it isnt much to begin with.

i believe we have a fine example here, even though hes recently inactive from lyn.
that should be enough hint.

I beg to differ...
which part makes u say tanks gear up easier than other classes??

is it the part where it's easier to pug than afk in BG?
is it the part where after 40 runs and still no Sun Eater drop, wherelse i can choose what i wanna buy with honor/arena points?
or is it the part where i can even lose all arena matches and still be able to bag a few S3 pieces which does not require rating?

that makes gearing up tanks easier huh ?

Page 4 and thread still not lock for flaming.

Amazing...

this thread is ele or ench shaman
becomes kara maiden tank lul....

what is enchantment shaman?
Lol.... just kidding

if you dont even bother to use your brain, i dont think im obliged to spoonfeed you.

ok so, do you want pvp gear, or pve gear? last i check theres no pve gear from honor points
and, is sun eater the ONLY tanking weapon? last i check theres quite a number of them
and refer to line 1 of no pve gear from honor.

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Added on April 23, 2008, 1:30 pmall the better really.

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Apr 23 2008, 01:30 PM

I'm making some popcorn, anybody want some? Feel free to dig in when its ready

I think the thread has dragged on long enough, basic case of the misinformed party not willing to take a hint. Close already lahhhh

ONCE AGAIN ladies and gentlemen....

*drum roll*

Seriously King, how many time have you "attemped" on Maiden ??

I'm not an expert, but basically Maiden have four abilities.
1. Holy ground - strikes anyone that is in melee range, but the damage is crap. easily heal thru. No problem for healer.

2. Holy Wrath - deal massive damage if people are near one another. But normally it won't be more than 3 people in melee range (including tank) therefore it won't be an issue. Four also workable if they are perfectly spread out. tried that b4.

3. Holy Fire - Single target direct spell that applies DOT that deal over 1000 damage per tick. Normally cast upon those outside of her holy aura which means range dpsers and healers will get it.

4. Repentance - caused 8~10s stun upon every members of the raid. Periodic damage can break it, which mean melee class within the holy ground will have no problem breaking it. range dps like a hunter have to run into the holy ground to break it.

Since you said that melee class will cause the healer having a hard time. So tell me, which is easier for healer to deal. melee class that gets holy ground with crap damage or range dps(in this case hunter) that get holy fire ?? hack, even if the damage is equally same between holy ground and holy fire, it is healer job to heal the raid lar. what else can they do ??

And who is the one that have to waste time keep running in and out when hit by repentance and who is the one can continue hitting on maiden without having to move an inch? And they can't even use their pet in this fight assuming there are 3~4 melee class within the holy gorund. So what kind of dps will the hunter produce in this maiden fight?

And, by having a hunter running in and out of holy ground when they are hit with repentance, might increased the chances of chain holy wrath, no??

interesting thought:

maiden wrath tank, badmelee and tank chains it, hunter send pet, chains it, at the same time hes at the edge of holy ground, recieves chain, and theres a healer just beside him, recieves chain, somehow raid members are in distance of chain, one by one up to the 10th member.

how much dmg the 10th will take?

She will cast Holy Fire no matter if u are all-melee (except healer) or all ranged (excep tank) or a combination of both.
Your question sounds as if by having meleers, she will stop using Holy Fire. This is not true bcos healers will still be outside of aoe and hence "somebody" will
get the Holy Fire. Someone has to dispell it. It's inevitable. But having meleers take damage in the aoe is extra job for healer, no?

I have no idea why a hunter can't use pets becos my hunter knowledge is 0.

Repentence has a longer cooldown than the chain.
Running in once in a while is STILL better than getting chained constantly if were in melee group.

Anymore arguments?

The funny thing is...
You guys insist you are right, yet you can't bring up facts to prove me wrong right in my tracks...
You question my way of looking at things, but when i answer back with more insight, u shut up.

Same like the case when i said PROT > ARMS.
You insist i was wrong, but u can't get me the proof.

btw, that was a joke thread... i know PROT doesn't DPS better than arms,
but it's sad you guys can't come up with a healthy discussion rather than simply brushing it off as NOT TRUE...
or changing the subject to focus on other things, like "how stupid i am etc"...

I am open to discussion if u'll simply make more sense...
not becos it's not true simply bcos u said so.

"HAY GUISE, YOU CANT PROVE WHY HUMANS BREATHE AIR, THEREFORE ITS NOT REAL, SO I WILL STOP BREATHING AIR NOW!"

^

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breath

are you like, some kinda stupid? you're really beyond hopeless

There you go again....
If you have nothing constructive to comment on the topic,
not posting isn't such a bad idea.

You won't lose e-peen for not posting.... rly.

This post has been edited by King83: Apr 23 2008, 05:04 PM

Errr....I think you might need a bit of help Kings83.

Cheesing Kara : http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=467987&hl=

Kara questions : http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=443197&hl=

Those posts bring back memories.

i appreciate the links myremi but what are they for?
no offence, but what are u trying to prove?

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Added on April 23, 2008, 5:27 pmMyremi, what does this mean?


just checked, CoD is 60 sec.... and wassup with 50k damage ??

This post has been edited by King83: Apr 23 2008, 05:27 PM

No i did not said it will stop using holy fire if you have meleers. read again bro. lazy to repeat what i said above.


Ahh... finally something i agreed with what you said....


Still there a slight chance that it might happen right? And it bloody wasted dps running in and out.
Again, with 3 meleer who know what they are doing will not be getting chained constantly. Even 4 meleers will not cause it if they are perfectly spread out. How is it u will be getting chained constantly then? Are you stupid or something ??

No, that is exactly what u're saying....
YOU read ur own sentence, not me.

You asked "which one i prefer? Meleers getting crap aoe damage OR hunters getting Holy Fire."
If i choose meleers get crap damage, does this mean she will stop casting Holy Fire??
JEEBUS FREAKING CHRIST !!! You don't even know what u're talkign about.

Dude, you need to brush up on ur english....
what do u mean slight chance to happen??
I SAID "getting chained once every repentance is better than constantly getting chained on melee" !!
Which part of that sentence do u not understand ??

And why is everyone's vocab so limited in this forum ? Stupid is the only thing u know how to say.

and not getting chained with 4 meleers is bull crap.
You don't stand the same spot the whole time. lotsa running to healers to break stun etc...

AGAIN, you're arguing for the sake of arguing.... you don't even know what u're talking about.

This post has been edited by King83: Apr 23 2008, 06:39 PM

The problem is that even if we share our experience, you deny it based on your experience. But the question now is there's a lot of us in higher end instances compared to you, so whose experience does it count?

My last advice to you is this Kings83 : you don't have to like the person giving the help, you just have to be polite.

No more posts from me whenever you say or ask for something. Too much coaching or tip-giving even for me.