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Sony-Ericsson â˜… Sony Ericsson K850i 5MP Cybershot(tm) -V3- Threa, It's not all about Megapixels!

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post Apr 15 2008, 05:09 PM, updated 18y ago


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Sony Ericsson have released the K850, the latest high-end Cybershot handset.

Packing a beefy 5 megapixel camera with 16x zoom and Xenon flash, the K850 weighs in at 118 grams, ever so slightly more than the earlier K800 and K810 devices. Available in Luminous Green or Velvet Blue and newly released Quicksilver Black, the phone has a 2.2inch 262k colour screen, 40mb internal memory and an M2 slot, with a 512MB stick thrown in for good measure.

Although initially sounding similar to the earlier K series handsets, the K850 does come with a few key improvements. First, the phone is the first to include an automatic lens cap, activated by pressing the camera button. It also comes with a new image manipulation program, Photo Fix, to automatically improve light balance on pictures. Sony Ericsson has also said that while in photo mode, only camera shortcut buttons will be illuminated on the main keyboard, as opposed to all buttons being lit all of the time.

K850 Specs
- 102 x 48 x 17 mm
- Weight: 118g / 4.2oz
- Size: 2.2 inches
- Networks: K850i (UMTS/HSDPA 3.6Mbps 850/1900/2100-GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900)
- Screen: 262,144 color TFT
- Video: capture/playback at 30fps, QVGA (240x320) resolutions
- Resolution: 240 x 320 pixels
- Phone memory: Up to 40 MB
- Memory card support: Memory Stick Micro M2 and micro SD (512MB M2 bundled)
- Talk time GSM/UMTS: Up to 9 hrs/3 hrs 30 min
- Standby time GSM/UMTS: Up to 400 hrs/350 hrs
- Video call time (K850): Up to 3 hrs 20 min
- SAR Value - 1.14 W/kg
- Colours:
user posted image Luminous Green
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Camera
-Auto focus
-BestPic™
-5-megapixel
-Digital zoom 16x
-Image stabiliser
-Picture blogging
-Red-eye reduction
-Video record
-Video stabiliser
-Xenon flash

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K850i Firmware's

R1FA035
Improvements / Changes

R1EA037
- Released on SEUS starting 12/4/08

Improvements / Changes

- Improved Media Player UI speed.
- Updated Text software revision.

Performance
- JBenchmark 3D HQ: 438
- JBenchmark 3D LQ: 427
- JBenchmark 2: 940
- JBenchmark 1: 6829

Software versions:

EROM: 1200-4341
LCD: 200712121
Camera: 3.7
Videocall camera: 3.0
Content: PA18
Java: 8.2
Text: BD

*take not that it takes a period of time before SEUS to update the newest firmware to your phone's region.

>*<<*<* to check your firmware version or check it via phone's Update Service under software version.

<Tips : how to update your K850i's firmware>
i) Go to http://www.sonyericsson.com (choose region)
ii) Go to their Support link and then search for a software named "Sony Ericsson Update Service"
iii) Once completed download, run and install software (software will auto update itself to current version if it's not)
iv) Follow the simple instructions provided by SEUS (Sony Ericsson Update Service).

alternatively you can try choosing FOTA (firmware over the air) update from your phone but not suggested cause it's too expensive
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Battery performance issues
Below are some helpful tips on what to do if you are having trouble charging your phone, or if your battery capacity is too low.

* Use a Sony Ericsson Charger. Third-party chargers may damage the battery and/or the phone, as well as affect the battery life.
* It is recommended to charge the battery for at least 2.5 hours prior to first use.
* If your battery is extremely low on charge, it may take up to 30 minutes of charging before the battery-charging icon appears on the screen.
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user posted image Quicksilver Black
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forum nick - ap/ori - price + package - color


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post Apr 15 2008, 05:11 PM

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how come i heard some users said tat k850 will lag when using?
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QUOTE(bsb85my @ Apr 15 2008, 05:11 PM)
how come i heard some users said tat k850 will lag when using?
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By lag do you mean in UI? Back in the days of R1CA029 yes the UI was laggy and slow in responds but with the newest firmwares it has boosted the UI speed to a increment of 60% i must say.
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post Apr 15 2008, 05:18 PM

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lag is because the motion sensor rite?
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post Apr 15 2008, 05:20 PM

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at last start v3 edi... haha... laugh.gif
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post Apr 15 2008, 05:20 PM


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Well the motion censor seemed to be a little too sensitive so i won't say that it's the softkeys which are lagged, it's the UI where you open up an application and it takes a while before it runs.
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Finally... V3!!!.. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif Well my hp got lag sometimes but still acceptable.. waiting for major firmware release!!! icon_rolleyes.gif
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It's hard for SE to release a major firmware when they are in so much development of many other kinds of models at the moment and as we know the K850 might be the last flagship of the K's we so much had throughout the many years, don't worry the phone is at it's best now after the R1EA031 firmware update months back.
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QUOTE(dragna @ Apr 15 2008, 06:38 PM)
It's hard for SE to release a major firmware when they are in so much development of many other kinds of models at the moment and as we know the K850 might be the last flagship of the K's we so much had throughout the many years, don't worry the phone is at it's best now after the R1EA031 firmware update months back.
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I hope they still can release one last major fw.. cry.gif At least fix all those stupid bugs and lagness.. sad.gif don't worry bout all the drivers.. leave that to modders cool2.gif

Ow here's some info from Esato

Performance of R1EA037 firmware (±Improvement)

- JBenchmark 3D HQ: 438 (Prev Firmware: 445)
- JBenchmark 3D LQ: 427 (Prev Firmware: 431)
- JBenchmark 2: 940 (Prev Firmware: 932)
- JBenchmark 1: 6829 (Prev Firmware: 6103)

I dunno about u guys.. but for me, if its an improvement.. why some of the value decrease hmm.gif

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If my k850i is AP, then can i update my firmware from sony website??
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QUOTE(jaylhw1 @ Apr 15 2008, 08:12 PM)
If my k850i is AP, then can i update my firmware from sony website??
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Yes, all you need is download the Sony Ericsson Update Service program (SEUS) and then follow the on screen instructions.
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last on first page to post xDxD Gonna get my phone tomorrow, so anxious >< ><
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QUOTE(Ver @ Apr 15 2008, 08:19 PM)
last on first page to post xDxD Gonna get my phone tomorrow, so anxious >< ><
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Welcome to the club rclxms.gif rclxms.gif Enjoy ur phone cool2.gif
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QUOTE(Ver @ Apr 15 2008, 08:19 PM)
last on first page to post xDxD Gonna get my phone tomorrow, so anxious >< ><
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eh.. aren't you already on the list? blink.gif shocking.gif
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Anyone found any other improvements in the new firmware other than the ones stated above @ Esato?
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post Apr 15 2008, 09:46 PM

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I'm wary of those silver colored "call & end" buttons. I could think the color may wear off in due time. If it really does..that's bad!.
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QUOTE(bsl555 @ Apr 15 2008, 09:46 PM)
I'm wary of those silver colored "call & end" buttons. I could think the color may wear off in due time. If it really does..that's bad!.
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Hope that won't happen laa sweat.gif My k800 last time became like that also.. the camera button was silver colored and over time it wears off.. wink.gif
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A big LOL for the article below but i think its a good input.. Just feel like sharing with you guys



Nikon D40 cool2.gif Vs K850i sweat.gif

http://blog.se-nse.net/reviews/camera-shoo...-ericsson-k850/

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post Apr 16 2008, 12:54 AM

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just updated the firmware... the media player speed is very fast now... and my theme didn't automatically changed to crystal after i updated... hopefully it already fixed the bugs...
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got my Velvet Blue one today, but then i find it a bit slower in responds compared to my old W810i cry.gif
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QUOTE(pinpinmiao @ Apr 16 2008, 01:19 AM)
got my Velvet Blue one today, but then i find it a bit slower in responds compared to my old W810i cry.gif
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u updated the new firmware edi?? to me still ok... as u kno it has more function than w810 rite?? so itz normal if slower than it a bit... hehe... tongue.gif
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what a digi-cam at hand!!
but quite big tho..
would be better if it comes with various colour =P
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QUOTE(ken_zie @ Apr 16 2008, 12:54 AM)
just updated the firmware... the media player speed is very fast now... and my theme didn't automatically changed to crystal after i updated... hopefully it already fixed the bugs...
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Good to hear that they have fixed the theme bug (always felt annoyed once it unplug my phone from the PC and it switches to crystal shakehead.gif ).
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QUOTE(dragna @ Apr 15 2008, 08:46 PM)
eh.. aren't you already on the list?  blink.gif  shocking.gif
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Yea, i reported in once my mom got me my phone, but it took a week for a friend of mine to bring it over to Perth, but really, i'm finalllllllllllllllllllllllllyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy getting it drool.gif drool.gif
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Tried to update this morning but it says my phone up-to-date already.. have to wait laa.. wink.gif
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QUOTE(pinpinmiao @ Apr 16 2008, 01:19 AM)
got my Velvet Blue one today, but then i find it a bit slower in responds compared to my old W810i cry.gif
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you have to update to the latest firmware then the speed will be increased dramatically..
actually i didn't really test the phone out in its stock firmware..
cuz updating the firmware is the 1st thing i did when i brought it home..haha
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hmm the reflective piece at the back scratches easily ... is there any thing i can protect that ?
crystal plastic casings makes the thing bulkier ... any other alternatives ?
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QUOTE(peeky @ Apr 16 2008, 11:02 AM)
hmm the reflective piece at the back scratches easily ... is there any thing i can protect that ?
crystal plastic casings makes the thing bulkier ... any other alternatives ?
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i use skin.. transparent skin.. and so far it did a great job cool2.gif
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QUOTE(peeky @ Apr 16 2008, 11:02 AM)
hmm the reflective piece at the back scratches easily ... is there any thing i can protect that ?
crystal plastic casings makes the thing bulkier ... any other alternatives ?
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3 way screen protector is the best solution i guess. As for skinning, some forumers giving not bad feedback, but for me, it will cover the prettiness of this baby and i always feels that its cacat when i hold my friend's phone because the cutting at the edge of the skinning are very bad. But i guess it will be nice if the sifu of skinning is PRO enough to skin ur phone
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QUOTE(edkiasu @ Apr 16 2008, 11:34 AM)
3 way screen protector is the best solution i guess. As for skinning, some forumers giving not bad feedback, but for me, it will cover the prettiness of this baby and i always feels that its cacat when i hold my friend's phone because the cutting at the edge of the skinning are very bad. But i guess it will be nice if the sifu of skinning is PRO enough to skin ur phone
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Yep.. Depends on the skills of the people who skin it.. as for mine.. my friends hardly notice there's a skin on it.. have to look really close cool2.gif not that bad for rm39 including skinning service thumbup.gif
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I'm planning on getting myself one in two weeks time or so...The design n the camera itself is very tempting to me besides the price that is.Do you think its possible to get it at around RM1k? and oh yea..this phone according to the specification i found online, it supports both M2 and MicroSD memory cards.Is this true?

Edit : Anyone mind posting a sample picture taken with their phones?Just wanted it for review.Thanks

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QUOTE(shawn2k4 @ Apr 16 2008, 01:37 PM)
I'm planning on getting myself one in two weeks time or so...The design n the camera itself is very tempting to me besides the price that is.Do you think its possible to get it at around RM1k? and oh yea..this phone according to the specification i found online, it supports both M2 and MicroSD memory cards.Is this true?

Edit : Anyone mind posting a sample picture taken with their phones?Just wanted it for review.Thanks
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Yes it does support both cards cool2.gif
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does the phone comes with the R1CA029 firmware ( the 1st firmware ) when u buy it?
mine it is sad.gif
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QUOTE(zacktan @ Apr 16 2008, 04:58 PM)
does the phone comes with the R1CA029 firmware ( the 1st firmware ) when u buy it?
mine it is  sad.gif
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You can always download Sony Ericsson Update Service (SEUS) and update it yourself.
It's very easy and you just have to follow it step by step then you should be able to have the latest R1EA037 firmware smile.gif
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Apr 16 2008, 05:01 PM)
You can always download Sony Ericsson Update Service (SEUS) and update it yourself.
It's very easy and you just have to follow it step by step then you should be able to have the latest R1EA037 firmware smile.gif
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it says my phone is up to date.. hmm thats weird blink.gif
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QUOTE(zacktan @ Apr 16 2008, 05:03 PM)
it says my phone is up to date.. hmm thats weird  blink.gif
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AP set I assume ?
If so, it should be your CDA number incompatible with APAC region firmware CDA number.
To have yourself enjoy update from SEUS in future, you can try to flash your firmware to the latest R1EA037 with APAC region CDA number. smile.gif
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Apr 16 2008, 05:06 PM)
AP set I assume ?
If so, it should be your CDA number incompatible with APAC region firmware CDA number.
To have yourself enjoy update from SEUS in future, you can try to flash your firmware to the latest R1EA037 with APAC region CDA number. smile.gif
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i dont quite get you, can you elaborate more? newbie in phones here sweat.gif
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QUOTE(zacktan @ Apr 16 2008, 05:25 PM)
i dont quite get you, can you elaborate more? newbie in phones here  sweat.gif
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AP set = oversea set (most of them)
It comes with oversea firmware which the firmware CDA number is follow by region so the set bring to Malaysia, update at APAC region, it won't get up to date as the CDA number is incompatible smile.gif

A reflash is needed to have your phone enjoy SEUS update in future smile.gif
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Apr 16 2008, 05:32 PM)
AP set = oversea set (most of them)
It comes with oversea firmware which the firmware CDA number is follow by region so the set bring to Malaysia, update at APAC region, it won't get up to date as the CDA number is incompatible smile.gif

A reflash is needed to have your phone enjoy SEUS update in future smile.gif
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Oh i get you now.. So I should send it to some shop to reflash now. Thanks smile.gif
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You can actually do it yourself. Save the RM 50 up smile.gif
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Apr 16 2008, 05:52 PM)
You can actually do it yourself. Save the RM 50 up smile.gif
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is it risky? im not good at these things, havent done things like these before hmm.gif
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Apr 16 2008, 05:06 PM)
AP set I assume ?
If so, it should be your CDA number incompatible with APAC region firmware CDA number.
To have yourself enjoy update from SEUS in future, you can try to flash your firmware to the latest R1EA037 with APAC region CDA number. smile.gif
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Mine is APAC-ANZ.. whats yours mate?? hmm.gif
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Oh i get you now.. So I should send it to some shop to reflash now. Thanks  smile.gif
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Apr 16 2008, 05:52 PM)
You can actually do it yourself. Save the RM 50 up smile.gif
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K850i (DB3150 if not mistaken) still unsupported by free flash tool like XS/Settool. So far only wotan/davinci pay service capable to upgrade K850i firmware if AP (for those CDA & IMEI not match base on SEUS calculation)
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QUOTE(iRonTech @ Apr 16 2008, 07:19 PM)
K850i (DB3150 if not mistaken) still unsupported by free flash tool like XS/Settool. So far only wotan/davinci pay service capable to upgrade K850i firmware if AP (for those CDA & IMEI not match base on SEUS calculation)
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so that means im stuck with my old firmware? sad.gif
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the cheapest i found for pay service is kulankendi.... 8 euro.... other like davinci and wotan need 10 euro ler.. haih

my CDA is not compatible lar.. i also dunno how lar..... R1EA037 got chinese support?

will SE service center update my firmware even i want to pay?

any1 know who can reflash k850i around 50 or abit more? i ask in 1 shop in digital mall.. he say charging 120 to reflash and update to R1EA031..... damm expensive...

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QUOTE(dragna @ Apr 16 2008, 06:43 AM)
Good to hear that they have fixed the theme bug (always felt annoyed once it unplug my phone from the PC and it switches to crystal  shakehead.gif ).
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just realised it didn't fixed the theme bug for the latest firmware.. cause just now i was talking on the phone, half way, the call suddenly dropped and the screen went black... and guess what, the theme changed automatically to crystal again... cry.gif
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QUOTE(eng98 @ Apr 16 2008, 09:13 PM)
the cheapest i found for pay service is kulankendi.... 8 euro.... other like davinci and wotan need 10 euro ler.. haih

my CDA is not compatible lar.. i also dunno how lar..... R1EA037 got chinese support?

will SE service center update my firmware even i want to pay?

any1 know who can reflash k850i around 50 or abit more? i ask in 1 shop in digital mall.. he say charging 120 to reflash and update to R1EA031..... damm expensive...
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Just got my phone moments ago, checked the firmware and it is R1CA029, anyone can help teach on how to update the phone, including the changing of CDA number if possible, pls and tq everyone ^^

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hey peeps,
know where to get a good skinning sifu to skin a transparent one for my phone?
or is the 3 way film better?
how much, and where to get it?
Thanks!!
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QUOTE(eng98 @ Apr 16 2008, 09:13 PM)
the cheapest i found for pay service is kulankendi.... 8 euro.... other like davinci and wotan need 10 euro ler.. haih

my CDA is not compatible lar.. i also dunno how lar..... R1EA037 got chinese support?

will SE service center update my firmware even i want to pay?

any1 know who can reflash k850i around 50 or abit more? i ask in 1 shop in digital mall.. he say charging 120 to reflash and update to R1EA031..... damm expensive...
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10 Euro consider cheap.

if pay rm120 to ericserve, future update can DIY via SEUS?
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QUOTE(callmelesbie @ Apr 16 2008, 10:33 PM)
hey peeps,
know where to get a good skinning sifu to skin a transparent one for my phone?
or is the 3 way film better?
how much, and where to get it?
Thanks!!
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ermmm... in my opinion, 3 way protector is good enough edi... coz if skinning, scare it will leave unwanted mark when u peel it off... jus my 2 cent... icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(illegaldragon87 @ Apr 16 2008, 11:22 PM)
ermmm... in my opinion, 3 way protector is good enough edi... coz if skinning, scare it will leave unwanted mark when u peel it off... jus my 2 cent...  icon_rolleyes.gif
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But the 3 way protector doesn't provide protection on the side wor, am i right? so if you are a velvet blue user better be more careful.. coz the silverish side if got scratch can be seen easily. Last time my phone did skin an when removed its mark-free cool2.gif and FYI i removed it myself just by peeling off without any special skill.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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question about the Camero ISO again ..not answered in Thread V2 ler.. :S :S
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I now a new inductee of K850i hall of fame!..my previous 810i is now owned by someone else within my family.
I was really torn between W960i and 850, but in the end, the K850i fits my bill and the W is priced just a bit too much and I think I prefer the K series features better. blush.gif

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QUOTE(Aishiteru^Suki @ Apr 16 2008, 11:49 PM)
But the 3 way protector doesn't provide protection on the side wor, am i right? so if you are a velvet blue user better be more careful.. coz the silverish side if got scratch can be seen easily. Last time my phone did skin an when removed its mark-free  cool2.gif and FYI i removed it myself just by peeling off without any special skill..  icon_rolleyes.gif
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ya.... the blue k850 really need to handle it wit extra care... coz really will cause an obvious scratches easily... oic... so can share wit us whr u skin ur hp?? n how much?? laugh.gif
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question about the Camero ISO again ..not answered in Thread V2 ler.. :S :S
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ISO or ASA in the most basic terms is the speed with which your film or digital camera responds to light, so the higher the ISO/ASA rating the more sensitive the film or CCD/CMOS sensor is to light.
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question about the Camero ISO again ..not answered in Thread V2 ler.. :S :S
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It was answered. Probably you can't find the ISO setting because your firmware has a camera driver that doesn't include manual ISO setting.
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The driver stuff so mafan @@
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I updated my firmware to latest through SEUS. There was some trouble doing it on my Athlon XP pc..somehow the USB flash drivers didn't initialize and ended up failed or error. Nevermind that..took a bath, relax a while, I used my HP Compaq laptop which also stores all my ringtones, themes and anything else phone related.. Kick up the SEUS program and everything went smoothly according to instructions. All kau tim in 15 mins I think. I think there's some speed difference in Media Player when it reads your media library catalog. Before, it somehow took a while longer. Imagine you store HUGE number of media files in bigger memory card, am sure it'll take longer to read, WHICH owners complain of lag...OF COURSE LAG lah..more files to read!

I really like the MegaBass feature, although audiophiles may say its "un-natural or bloated", its can sound richer and less fatigue. I really missed this on the K810i. brows.gif

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QUOTE(Aishiteru^Suki @ Apr 16 2008, 11:49 PM)
But the 3 way protector doesn't provide protection on the side wor, am i right? so if you are a velvet blue user better be more careful.. coz the silverish side if got scratch can be seen easily. Last time my phone did skin an when removed its mark-free  cool2.gif and FYI i removed it myself just by peeling off without any special skill..  icon_rolleyes.gif
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My baby restart again this noon.. cry.gif 2 times some more with 5 mins interval. First one occurred when i was about to push the camera button to snap document pics and another one while i was typing sms.. sad.gif sad.gif

I wanna sell my phone already.. not!! tongue.gif have faith and wait for new firmware.. have faith!!!!! flex.gif

Anyway i did the skin at IPOH PARADE, Ipoh.. for rm39.. and my phone was the their first K850 phone to be skinned like that. Coz at first they told me they couldn't do full skin, only front and rear cover but i say try to do full laa.. by the way it took nearly 2 hours.. and for the time being they can only do transparent skin for the rear cover..
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QUOTE(Aishiteru^Suki @ Apr 17 2008, 03:06 PM)
My baby restart again this noon..  cry.gif  2 times some more with 5 mins interval. First one occurred when i was about to push the camera button to snap document pics and another one while i was typing sms..  sad.gif  sad.gif

I wanna sell my phone already.. not!!  tongue.gif have faith and wait for new firmware.. have faith!!!!!  flex.gif

Anyway i did the skin at IPOH PARADE, Ipoh.. for rm39.. and my phone was the their first K850 phone to be skinned like that. Coz at first they told me they couldn't do full skin, only front and rear cover but i say try to do full laa.. by the way it took nearly 2 hours.. and for the time being they can only do transparent skin for the rear cover..
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Ipoh parade huh?
I'm in KL ler..
I'm so lost between 3 way film or skinning..
I'm using GREEN one so its easier to take care..
I went to Sungei Wang to find, they sell me RM30
but online only RM6 + 6(delivery)
I wish I can find it in shops cuz I'm always running everywhere and there's no one to collect the stuff for me if its sent via pos Laju..
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OK...for those who want to know whether can use 4GB microSDHC card (Sandisk) or not in this phone.. CAN!.. and I found out its formatted in FAT32, whereas M2 card is formatted in FAT. The memory status reports correctly.
I've now transfered all my music and stuff (1.xxGB) to this new card and its now working well!..touch wood!.
RM69 at AllIT DIgital Mall..no one sells cheaper there than AllIT..I checked around.
That plastic film is the same brand I use in my other K810i. excellent!

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Is there really no way for us AP set users to update our firmware for free ( confirm ) ?

Oh ya guys, what's the BROD that i hear from other forums bout k850i de? Saying that it'll make your phone dead ><

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Is there really no way for us AP set users to update our firmware for free ( confirm ) ?
Oh ya guys, what's the BROD that i hear from other forums bout k850i de? Saying that it'll make your phone dead ><
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Mine is a AP set, I just updated to latest firmware last nite through SEUS for free..all went well mah!..(except for few quirks related to my PC..not the phone). As long as you have original firmware installed previously and can be recognized as legitimate by SEUS, it'll detect the actual version and apply the appropriate upgrade firmware...simple as that!.
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QUOTE(bsl555 @ Apr 17 2008, 07:08 PM)
Mine is a AP set, I just updated to latest firmware last nite through SEUS for free..all went well mah!..(except for few quirks related to my PC..not the phone). As long as you have original firmware installed previously and can be recognized as legitimate by SEUS, it'll detect the actual version and apply the appropriate upgrade firmware...simple as that!.
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I wish it was as simple as that, and i don't have to think bout laggy media stuff already xD But mine's an ap set too, and the firmware is still at version one an can't like update through SEUS, think that it's the CDA problem and region etc etc, so was asking here lur =P
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QUOTE(bsl555 @ Apr 17 2008, 07:08 PM)
Mine is a AP set, I just updated to latest firmware last nite through SEUS for free..all went well mah!..(except for few quirks related to my PC..not the phone). As long as you have original firmware installed previously and can be recognized as legitimate by SEUS, it'll detect the actual version and apply the appropriate upgrade firmware...simple as that!.
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Would you mind telling me your CDA region?? thanx notworthy.gif
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erm, how to check ya? >< Sry, really nooby in these stuffs de, but i'm trying to learn now ya.
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QUOTE(Aishiteru^Suki @ Apr 17 2008, 07:28 PM)
Would you mind telling me your CDA region?? thanx  notworthy.gif
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All the same as on the 1st page of this thread.
Actually China APAC like in K810i would be sufficient for Malaysian use. No need for German, French, Dutch languages.
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QUOTE(Ver @ Apr 17 2008, 07:09 PM)
I wish it was as simple as that, and i don't have to think bout laggy media stuff already xD But mine's an ap set too, and the firmware is still at version one an can't like update through SEUS, think that it's the CDA problem and region etc etc, so was asking here lur =P
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As I go through some of the forum, K850i can't modify yet so you can't change the CDA number yourself. The easiest way is to pay for a reflash smile.gif
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Apr 17 2008, 08:16 PM)
As I go through some of the forum, K850i can't modify yet so you can't change the CDA number yourself. The easiest way is to pay for a reflash smile.gif
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This is what i've heard too, that's why i'm all blur @@ had to change back to my 512mb card instead of the 2gb one i bought cause it'll lag in the media part ><
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QUOTE(KTCY @ Apr 17 2008, 08:16 PM)
As I go through some of the forum, K850i can't modify yet so you can't change the CDA number yourself. The easiest way is to pay for a reflash smile.gif
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whn sould i buy it?
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whn will SE update it n produce?
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the current firmware has a huge improvement compared to the STOCK firmware..
I guess not many problems now..
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QUOTE(callmelesbie @ Apr 18 2008, 09:25 AM)
the current firmware has a huge improvement compared to the STOCK firmware..
I guess not many problems now..
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I think I detected a bug last nite. Uploaded into memory some converted into mp4 youtube files and I detected lipsync problem (what is lipsync?..sound and video not sync)
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QUOTE(bsl555 @ Apr 18 2008, 10:09 AM)
I think I detected a bug last nite. Uploaded into memory some converted into mp4 youtube files and I detected lipsync problem (what is lipsync?..sound and video not sync)
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I also faced problems like you with the sync but i found out that it's the vid's that i converted were at fault and i tried other source on the same vid which then worked fine.
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I also faced problems like you with the sync but i found out that it's the vid's that i converted were at fault and i tried other source on the same vid which then worked fine.
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I'm guessing there's nothing wrong with the video. I'm guessing too that the Media Player or something to do with the hardware is not up to mark. The same converted video plays without a problem on K810i. If you were to encode any video in basic or lower quality, you'd sure see a basic or poor quality video on screen, and its so obvious on the K850.

Anyway, I've been reading SE forums and this video/audio sync has been addressed in much earlier firmware, but its now clear to me its not entirely eliminated and the latest firmware revision does NOT address this issue. Something is not right here. BUT, if you encode say some youtube flv file in basic or much lower resolution or audio quality, then NO PROBLEM. My final encoded files are near highest encoding possible and as I said, doesn't pose a problem in K810i, but its very persistent in K850i. I'm beginning to become disillusioned to this model for a number of issues after playing with it for a while, despite a huge price difference over the K810i. Actually someone very knowledgeble and a frequent phone kaki, did warn me this is NOT entirely a great model, yet ????? doh.gif

Meanwhile, I'm also finding the buttons and ring a bit harder to press than K810 or K800. Its even harder than my Logitech mouse button. Here again, a minor irritation to me. SE should have had it much softer.

Oh well..sorry for negative rants today..I had expected SO MUCH!.. who knows my next few posts could be..in GARAGE SALE!.. ohmy.gif

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Mine just go into the repair department~!! cry.gif

I just use until the battery fully finished and re-charge it for 2 hrs then the phone just wont wake up doh.gif Try to take out the battery and plug it back in but there's still no respond. Try to reflash but when flashing, i think since the phone is in "Sleep Mode" so there's nothing happen as the software didn't get the chance to be save into the phone. Now is in the repair department liaw.. sweat.gif

I heard the staff there says most probably software problems and advise me not to fully finish off the battery. Charge when it says lack of batt or warning.. rclxub.gif I thought all this while ok boh.. why suddenly like this.. cry.gif
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QUOTE(bsl555 @ Apr 18 2008, 02:42 PM)
Oh well..sorry for negative rants today..I had expected SO MUCH!.. who knows my next few posts could be..in GARAGE SALE!..  ohmy.gif
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You wanna sell it already?? sad.gif Ow well.. can't blame you, me too in dilemma now.. wanna stay with this baby or dump her and look for my previous love.. Elena.. Sofia ow Sofia.. plz don't disappoint me sad.gif
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QUOTE(cOMMANDER pRASNTH @ Apr 18 2008, 07:50 PM)
Hi TS, pls add me to your list

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shocking.gif Such a "commander" package.. where did you buy?? and may I know the price for GPS Enabler??
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Haha,

got it from times square 3rd floor (near the cinema). MIDLAND set and paying via 'true' maybank 0% installment plan. the gps enabler is about 250 if im not mistaken.

ps :- shop name was 'leading communication' if im not mistaken. perhaps because the prices have been slashed (ap was about 1150 at the time of purchase) therefore, the ori sets were sold with a better bundle.



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QUOTE(cOMMANDER pRASNTH @ Apr 18 2008, 08:13 PM)
Haha,

got it from times square 3rd floor (near the cinema). MIDLAND set and paying via 'true' maybank 0% installment plan. the gps enabler is about 250 if im not mistaken.

ps :- shop name was 'leading communication' if im not mistaken. perhaps because the prices have been slashed (ap was about 1150 at the time of purchase) therefore, the ori sets were sold with a better bundle.
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..waiting for 8MP Smartphone coming out!!
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That would be quite some time.. sweat.gif as far as i can see for the near future the trend will be more on 5MP with better features and improvement wink.gif Why don't get yourself a K850 while waiting tongue.gif

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Hi, was wondering is the firmware R1CA037 stable plus non laggy?
was thinking of getting an AP k850 but they oni firmware the shop has is R1CA037. afraid tat i couldnt update it via SEUS since it's AP... any suggestions? =)
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Added on April 18, 2008, 10:22 pmHow to set date on pic taken like k800 one? or this fon dont have this feature?

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Added on April 18, 2008, 10:22 pmHow to set date on pic taken like k800 one? or this fon dont have this feature?
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Still no news in helping update the ap sets to the newest firmware mar guys? >"<
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QUOTE(Ver @ Apr 18 2008, 10:38 PM)
Still no news in helping update the ap sets to the newest firmware mar guys? >"<
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There 's a guideline on first page teach how to update ur k850i to the newest firmware:
<Tips : how to update your K850i's firmware>
i) Go to http://www.sonyericsson.com (choose region)
ii) Go to their Support link and then search for a software named "Sony Ericsson Update Service"
iii) Once completed download, run and install software (software will auto update itself to current version if it's not)
iv) Follow the simple instructions provided by SEUS (Sony Ericsson Update Service).


Btw, i've downloaded my hp's to the latest firmware (first tried) it and its very simple as easy as updated the nokia firmware too

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my ori set still cant update till now. pressing the "c" without release while plugging in the usb cable seems cant work for me, the phone keep appear n mass storage mode. anyone pls help? if have to repeat the steps again i fear my battery cover will get loose very soon sad.gif
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QUOTE(a x b y c z @ Apr 18 2008, 11:18 PM)
my ori set still cant update till now. pressing the "c" without release while plugging in the usb cable seems cant work for me, the phone keep appear n mass storage mode. anyone pls help? if have to repeat the steps again i fear my battery cover will get loose very soon sad.gif
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try install your PC suite & all the neccessary drivers that comes with your phone package. follow the instructions clearly. press C WHILE plugging in the USB cable. shouldn't be a problem. did this uncountable times with few SE phones dy. good luck. smile.gif
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QUOTE(antho1 @ Apr 18 2008, 11:02 PM)
There 's a guideline on first page teach how to update ur k850i to the newest firmware:
<Tips : how to update your K850i's firmware>
i) Go to http://www.sonyericsson.com (choose region)
ii) Go to their Support link and then search for a software named "Sony Ericsson Update Service"
iii) Once completed download, run and install software (software will auto update itself to current version if it's not)
iv) Follow the simple instructions provided by SEUS (Sony Ericsson Update Service).
Btw, i've downloaded my hp's to the latest firmware (first tried) it and its very simple as easy as updated the nokia firmware too

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I wish that it was that simple, it's the CDA probbie that my phone is an ap set that cna't update through SEUS, stuck with the first firmware, R1CA029, which is way laggy, even lagger than my N73 (which is already considerably lag), and i don't wanna pay for stuffs to like upgrade a firmware, cause it'll be a waste, anyone got like codes or stuff to share to flash the phone? I would send it to a shop to flash, problem is i bought my phone in Malaysia, and now i'm over at Perth, and there is like no shop here that would flash your phone.
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Can help , but if and only if u could come over my place, i will try my best to get it thru for u thanks ..
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You're in Perth mar Antho1? I tried the SEUS thingie jor, and have the update file in my computer, will see first ba.
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QUOTE(a x b y c z @ Apr 18 2008, 11:18 PM)
my ori set still cant update till now. pressing the "c" without release while plugging in the usb cable seems cant work for me, the phone keep appear n mass storage mode. anyone pls help? if have to repeat the steps again i fear my battery cover will get loose very soon sad.gif
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QUOTE(a x b y c z @ Apr 18 2008, 11:18 PM)
my ori set still cant update till now. pressing the "c" without release while plugging in the usb cable seems cant work for me, the phone keep appear n mass storage mode. anyone pls help? if have to repeat the steps again i fear my battery cover will get loose very soon sad.gif
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if your phone is turn off still can appear mass storage when you connect with USB?? your phone is turn off or on when you press C button???
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I'm also finding this phone not very suited to simple arcade gaming. A joystick is mandatory. You normally use your two thumbs for left & right,(e.g. 4 & 6 key) so which finger you press the fire button (5 key)?. doh.gif

I gather in other forums this model is "most complained about" by critical owners ohmy.gif
Here's my list of complaints and possible bugs. These are entirely from my own observation, NOT copied from other discussion.

1. No joystick and not suited to the simplest of arcade games. Perhaps priorty to cellphone functionality than entertainment.
2. M2 card used in other SE phone can be unrecognized and asked to format. Cannot be the card..it works flawlessly in the K810i and card reader. Format with card reader and then put back in phone, again it'll be unrecognized.
3. No time & date stamp in camera settings.
4. Camera flash can accidently covered by fingers, resulting in dark pictures. Best to hold the phone with only finger and thumb on both sides whilst taking picture, ALWAYS AWARE that finger MUST be away from the flash light in front.
5. Keybad buttons and D-pad Ring seem clicky and harder to press, even harder than Logitech mouse. A joystick is more suitable. The Navigation ring is a STUPID implementation. A Joystick would have been God sent.
6. Keyboard seems to sit on a hollow layer, can see it being depressed when numerical keys are pressed.
7. USB cable to SEUS update for this phone can be problematic. The USB Flash drivers may not be automatically detected and installed, file transfer mode is invoked instead and SEUS will not proceed. Not as straightforward as lower model SE phones. Some detection flaw here. (have not tried in Vista yet, but in XP, the problem is apparent)
8. The File Manager utility is moved into Organizer category. It should be on the main menu. The PlayNow should NOT be on the main menu.
9. Still no extended keypad lock options, such as time.
10. Keypad lock should not be one of the sensor buttons, should be a hardware button.
11. Video files have evidence of lip-synch problems during playback.

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It's a personal favor on how the phone works and just that it doesn't suit others the way it does to many others. Well, everything can be fixed with the firmware probbie and just like vista, it's gonna win loads of people in the end =3 *cheers*
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may i noe how u guys check the firmware?

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Menu -> Settings -> Update service -> Software version
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may i noe how u guys check the firmware?
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Menu/General/UpdateService/Software Version wink.gif late tongue.gif

urs is AP? mind to tell what version inside ur phone?

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1. No joystick and not suited to arcade games. Perhaps priorty to cellphone functionality than entertainment.

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What cant play games?

Crap.
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What cant play games?

Crap.
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I said not suited, not can't play. I repeat, its more for phone functionality. Can't have everything but its natural to expect a lot for this kind of money.
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I said not suited, not can't play. I repeat, its more for phone functionality. Can't have everything but its natural to expect a lot for this kind of money.
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Damn,i'll miss playing games on phone.

Now i only realise that this phone's button is not suitable for games.
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Apr 19 2008, 10:48 PM)
Damn,i'll miss playing games on phone.
Now i only realise that this phone's button is not suitable for games.
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I'm no gamer nor a fan of any games, but I know a joystick is best for responsive maneuvering with only the thumb. The somewhat hard to press and clicky D-ring is a blatant disadvantage even in the simplest of arcade games as I've found out. I need 3 hands to go through Round 1. How to play?...excellent question! cool2.gif

Anyway, I'm going to pass it off to my son in due course..I'm getting very dissillusioned with this model!, but what else to change ah?..The truth is there's no other phone with similar features at the same price point. I should have listened to a phone freako friend!..he already told me twice..DON'T bother buying this phone! icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(bsl555 @ Apr 19 2008, 11:10 PM)
I'm no gamer nor a fan of any games, but I know a joystick is best for responsive maneuvering with only the thumb. The somewhat hard to press and clicky D-ring is a blatant disadvantage even in the simplest of arcade games as I've found out. I need 3 hands to go through Round 1. How to play?...excellent question!  cool2.gif
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but the main problem is joystick tends to wear out quite fast, especially if game alot. that's why new SE phones are joystick-less. biggrin.gif

the only problem so far with K850i is the touch sensor buttons. one of my friend's one was faulty even though the phone is barely 1 month old. sweat.gif

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QUOTE(teikwing @ Apr 19 2008, 11:15 PM)
that's why new SE phones are joystick-less.  biggrin.gif
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Eh?.. so many K series current and past are with joysticks..K800 and k810 are still current aren't they?..and its actually quite good I'd say. 3 members of my family are now SE phone owners, which include those two mentioned. Anyway, as long as its bug free, user friendly and can last up to 3 years trouble free, I'm quite happy. Compared to my previous Nok 6600, THAT WAS PAIN in A*s by comparison.
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QUOTE(bsl555 @ Apr 19 2008, 11:20 PM)
Eh?.. so many K series current and past are with joysticks..K800 and k810 are still current aren't they?..and its actually quite good I'd say. 3 members of my family are now SE phone owners, which include those two mentioned. Anyway, as long as its bug free, user friendly and can last up to 3 years trouble free, I'm quite happy. Compared to my previous Nok 6600, THAT WAS PAIN in A*s by comparison.
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i dun think k810 n k800 is consider new coz been in the market for quite a time... for new 1, i think k660 is consider new...
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QUOTE(bsl555 @ Apr 19 2008, 11:20 PM)
Eh?.. so many K series current and past are with joysticks..K800 and k810 are still current aren't they?..and its actually quite good I'd say. 3 members of my family are now SE phone owners, which include those two mentioned. Anyway, as long as its bug free, user friendly and can last up to 3 years trouble free, I'm quite happy. Compared to my previous Nok 6600, THAT WAS PAIN in A*s by comparison.
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yeah, that was the old batch. take a look at K850i, G900, G700, C902 etc. all are joystick-less. there are just numerous complaints of faulty joystick on K800i. anyway, as long as its long-lasting its good enough. like what you said. smile.gif
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There exist a list of phones from launch to cease production dates. Until those models mentioned have officially ceased production on the proposed dates, they're technically still current models.
Point is, I wish this K850i had a joystick. Life would be more bearable.
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any infos on the Manual Settings on the camera driver? thx!
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any infos on the Manual Settings on the camera driver? thx!
anyway k850i-AP SET-RM1150-LUMINOUS GREEN AND VELVET BLUE
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Congrats to you and for actually buying 2 sets sweat.gif
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QUOTE(bsl555 @ Apr 19 2008, 11:10 PM)
I'm no gamer nor a fan of any games, but I know a joystick is best for responsive maneuvering with only the thumb. The somewhat hard to press and clicky D-ring is a blatant disadvantage even in the simplest of arcade games as I've found out. I need 3 hands to go through Round 1. How to play?...excellent question!  cool2.gif

Anyway, I'm going to pass it off to my son in due course..I'm getting very dissillusioned with this model!, but what else to change ah?..The truth is there's no other phone with similar features at the same price point. I should have listened to a phone freako friend!..he already told me twice..DON'T bother buying this phone!  icon_rolleyes.gif
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What did your friend say about this phone?Is it that bad?

If not,i have to get n73 which i heard is even worse.


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QUOTE(teikwing @ Apr 19 2008, 11:15 PM)
but the main problem is joystick tends to wear out quite fast, especially if game alot. that's why new SE phones are joystick-less.  biggrin.gif

the only problem so far with K850i is the touch sensor buttons. one of my friend's one was faulty even though the phone is barely 1 month old.  sweat.gif
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Yeah,the joystick suxs.My brother's phone joystick start having problem after he use it for 6 months.

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Never thought K850 got so many problems. Generally, I don't like the keys either.
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QUOTE(starbucks_2008 @ Apr 20 2008, 10:49 AM)
Never thought K850 got so many problems. Generally, I don't like the keys either.
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Guys I need some help here..
Don't know what's happening to my phone.
I charged it overnight then i restarted my phone and it shows 'Searching' and it hanged.
It's not responsive.. only thing I could do is detach the battery, on it back and it's still the same.
My firmware is the oldest one, the R1CA029. Need some help over here guys sad.gif
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Erm, most of the phones with not the latest firmware has quite a problem with it de, try updating the phone or if u can't on it, might go reflash or master reset first before updating?
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QUOTE(Ver @ Apr 20 2008, 05:22 PM)
Erm, most of the phones with not the latest firmware has quite a problem with it de, try updating the phone or if u can't on it, might go reflash or master reset first before updating?
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the thing is I cant even master reset it sad.gif
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QUOTE(zacktan @ Apr 20 2008, 05:42 PM)
the thing is I cant even master reset it  sad.gif
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Likely a hardware problem, better send it in for service at the AP service center or SE center, whichever applicable.
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QUOTE(bsl555 @ Apr 20 2008, 09:56 PM)
Likely a hardware problem, better send it in for service at the AP service center or SE center, whichever applicable.
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went to sg wang 3rd floor for firmware upgrade, now on da newest one no problem yet rclxms.gif
personal recommend from me, fast and friendly service smile.gif
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QUOTE(zacktan @ Apr 21 2008, 04:41 PM)
went to sg wang 3rd floor for firmware upgrade, now on da newest one no problem yet  rclxms.gif
personal recommend from me, fast and friendly service  smile.gif
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How much they charge u for this upgrade?
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rm50 but he gave me a discount, rm45.
my original phone content ( eg music, pictures and etc files ) were replaced. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Ver @ Apr 19 2008, 07:34 PM)
Menu -> Settings -> Update service -> Software version
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Menu/General/UpdateService/Software Version wink.gif late tongue.gif

urs is AP? mind to tell what version inside ur phone?
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actualy is my fren ask me how to check it~
he is using AP k850i
i m confuse bout what hp should i buy nw~


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QUOTE(zacktan @ Apr 21 2008, 04:41 PM)
went to sg wang 3rd floor for firmware upgrade, now on da newest one no problem yet  rclxms.gif
personal recommend from me, fast and friendly service  smile.gif
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Must be the same AP service center that upgraded my previous Nokia 6600 for free (within warranty) and it took an hour. That was then. The SE phone takes 15mins max...should have charged lower..RM20 reasonable?.
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plz~
k850i users answer me~
izit k850i realy that good n worth?or not worth?
cos many ppl say 5.0mp not look lk 5.0mp~
k810i picture quality beter thn k850i~ is that true?
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Updates should be available for free as after-sales services ya. If it wasn't the ap set problem, everyone could just update it off SEUS, and i believe that it'll eventually be common that everyone can update at home de


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plz~
k850i users answer me~
izit k850i realy that good n worth?or not worth?
cos many ppl say 5.0mp not look lk 5.0mp~
k810i picture quality beter thn k850i~ is that true?
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k850i has the potential to be one of the best phone that is out there at the moment in the market. Isit possible that SE will launch something that is even worst then the previous phone released? k810i might have a better firmware, camera thingie, but it's reaching it's limit, while there is so much more that k850i can go on to, for now, it's just in a bad firmware problem, which is merely solvable eventually through updates and so on, in the end, it'll be perfect, and more than k810i. If you really need a good camera phone and can't wait much for the firmware problems on k850i to get to the end, then start off with k810i, still, i've been using this phone for a few days down, and i have no sense of regret for it as i trust that it's gonna get better ^^

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QUOTE(zacktan @ Apr 21 2008, 06:00 PM)
rm50 but he gave me a discount, rm45.
my original phone content ( eg music, pictures and etc files ) were replaced.  smile.gif
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sweat.gif did u see wat software they use to upgrade it? tongue.gif setool (paid w usb dongle)?
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QUOTE(Ver @ Apr 21 2008, 07:00 PM)
Updates should be available for free as after-sales services ya. If it wasn't the ap set problem, everyone could just update it off SEUS, and i believe that it'll eventually be common that everyone can update at home de


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k850i has the potential to be one of the best phone that is out there at the moment in the market. Isit possible that SE will launch something that is even worst then the previous phone released? k810i might have a better firmware, camera thingie, but it's reaching it's limit, while there is so much more that k850i can go on to, for now, it's just in a bad firmware problem, which is merely solvable eventually through updates and so on, in the end, it'll be perfect, and more than k810i. If you really need a good camera phone and can't wait much for the firmware problems on k850i to get to the end, then start off with k810i, still, i've been using this phone for a few days down, and i have no sense of regret for it as i trust that it's gonna get better ^^
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the sungai wang 3rd floor... any k850i ap phone can do upgrade?
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Yup, on my k850i now o, anything to ask bout?
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Yup, on my k850i now o, anything to ask bout?
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i'm going to buy~
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It's like vista i assume, which i heard at first launch, a lot of bad comments on it, like not user friendly and etc, but it eventually got better with updates, regarding k850i itself, i've stated already above, just firmware matters that block the potential of the phone to be better.
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QUOTE(Ver @ Apr 21 2008, 09:29 PM)
It's like vista i assume, which i heard at first launch, a lot of bad comments on it, like not user friendly and etc, but it eventually got better with updates, regarding k850i itself, i've stated already above, just firmware matters that block the potential of the phone to be better.
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nod.gif as even the latest firmware still lockup the CPU speed. will take little bit longer time to come out much fast & stable version as JP8 consider very new to SE & other phone maker.

Ver, did u use ur K850i act as HSDPA modem to online?
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it's fairly reasonable price for a 5 mp phone. nod.gif
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QUOTE(iRonTech @ Apr 21 2008, 10:07 PM)
nod.gif as even the latest firmware still lockup the CPU speed. will take little bit longer time to come out much fast & stable version as JP8 consider very new to SE & other phone maker.

Ver, did u use ur K850i act as HSDPA modem to online?
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Totally agreeing, erm, nop, cause i'm in Perth at the moment, still don't have a cheap data plan for my phone ya...
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Hi,
was wondering if the screen protector which covers both side of the phone fits properly? does it affect the quality of the camera?
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Hi,
was wondering if the screen protector which covers both side of the phone fits properly? does it affect the quality of the camera?
thnx in advance =)
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yes. it fits the phone perfectly. try to ask the shop people to fox it for you in case you're not so confident in fitting it yourself, it does not affect the quality of the camera. there's this protector for the camera's lens cover too. smile.gif
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QUOTE(teikwing @ Apr 22 2008, 06:16 AM)
yes. it fits the phone perfectly. try to ask the shop people to fox it for you in case you're not so confident in fitting it yourself, it does not affect the quality of the camera. there's this protector for the camera's lens cover too. smile.gif
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Yes, best to get the shop fella to fix it for you. If not you need steady hands, very sharp eyesight and CLEAN THE PHONE of grease, dirt and dust BEFORE you stick on the protective layer. I had to use my head magnifying glass, a camera dust blower and clean with Amway LOC solution before I stick it on very carefully for a perfect job. Not easy but must be done carefully to get things done 1st TIME RIGHT!.
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QUOTE(teikwing @ Apr 22 2008, 06:16 AM)
yes. it fits the phone perfectly. try to ask the shop people to fox it for you in case you're not so confident in fitting it yourself, it does not affect the quality of the camera. there's this protector for the camera's lens cover too. smile.gif
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oh, u bought from the shops in low yat? how much is it?
was thinking of buying from Renee at RM6 + RM3 postage but i'm hate sticking it myself as i always get dusts trapped inside ><
thanks btw =)
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QUOTE(Redundant @ Apr 22 2008, 09:33 AM)
oh, u bought from the shops in low yat? how much is it?
was thinking of buying from Renee at RM6 + RM3 postage but i'm hate sticking it myself as i always get dusts trapped inside ><
thanks btw =)
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I don't know Renee's product quality, but I'm convinced of one quality type I bought from Digital Mall PJ for RM20 that's really crystal clear, branded as Special Edition and in 4 pieces for the K850i. I had used another similar one for my other K810i and its superb.
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QUOTE(bsl555 @ Apr 22 2008, 09:36 AM)
I don't know Renee's product quality, but I'm convinced of one quality type I bought from Digital Mall PJ for RM20 that's really crystal clear, branded as Special Edition and in 4 pieces for the K850i. I had used another similar one for my other K810i and its superb.
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I think it's the same thing as Renee's
here's the link, http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=657399&hl=
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I think it's the same thing as Renee's
here's the link, http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=657399&hl=
So is it worth buying?
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Of course, don't let me discourage you from buying anything you feel is worth.
Had a comparison of mine, its branded as Crystal View, doesn't look the same as Renee's picture.
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Crystal View, Good Stuff! i've used it on my samsung e730 previously ^^
mayb i shud look for urs then... =/
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This is the one I'm using.
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QUOTE(bsl555 @ Apr 22 2008, 10:27 AM)
This is the one I'm using.
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wow, many thanks!
does it protect the top part of the screen where the branding n 3G camera is?
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wow, many thanks!
does it protect the top part of the screen where the branding n 3G camera is?
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4 pcs: Front top part, LCD Screen, the back and camera lens. Took my own sweet time to install it..as in earlier post..not easy but worth it and to my personal satisfaction. They should have included a keypad piece but perhaps too difficult to manufacture. My K810i has it.
I'm VERY CAREFUL owner of many personal belongings.

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QUOTE(eng98 @ Apr 21 2008, 07:21 PM)
the sungai wang 3rd floor... any k850i ap phone can do upgrade?
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think so.. mine was R1CA029. Upgraded to R1EA037 smile.gif


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sweat.gif did u see wat software they use to upgrade it? tongue.gif setool (paid w usb dongle)?
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think so.. mine was R1CA029. Upgraded to R1EA037  smile.gif


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i have no idea but they were using usb, neva open anything on da phone or watsoever
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Must have been USB cable and proprietry software only service centers have, otherwise they can't be prepared for most eventualities. These phones are not like before needing various cable adapters and flashing hardware..those days are about over for new phones.

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QUOTE(StevenD3557 @ Mar 6 2008, 08:44 PM)
Ya, Thanks to Nothing_nth
but I got one more question, how to check K850i IMEI number behind phone? since its battery cover on bottom, and where the sticker stick?
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checking IMEI IIRC should be the same on all phone

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checking IMEI IIRC should be the same on all phone

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QUOTE(Redundant @ Apr 22 2008, 09:33 AM)
oh, u bought from the shops in low yat? how much is it?
was thinking of buying from Renee at RM6 + RM3 postage but i'm hate sticking it myself as i always get dusts trapped inside ><
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Renee's quality is not bad. one of my friend is using it. got mine from Atlantis. comes with the phone when bough it. not sure how much is it though. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Ver @ Apr 21 2008, 09:29 PM)
It's like vista i assume, which i heard at first launch, a lot of bad comments on it, like not user friendly and etc, but it eventually got better with updates, regarding k850i itself, i've stated already above, just firmware matters that block the potential of the phone to be better.
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nope, i mean check by the IMEI/serial no sticker which sticked to the phone itself
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Its actually hidden inside the battery compartment. You'd have to fish it out. I didn't bother with mine..accept it as is.
However, I peeked and see a Sirim sticker inside.
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QUOTE(bsl555 @ Apr 22 2008, 06:37 PM)
Its actually hidden inside the battery compartment. You'd have to fish it out. I didn't bother with mine..accept it as is.
However, I peeked and see a Sirim sticker inside.
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blink.gif 'fish it out'? sweat.gif notworthy.gif thanks ur infor, at least i can imagine how it looks like biggrin.gif going to get one
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QUOTE(iRonTech @ Apr 22 2008, 06:39 PM)
blink.gif 'fish it out'?  sweat.gif  notworthy.gif thanks ur infor, at least i can imagine how it looks like biggrin.gif  going to get one
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This is what I meant.. (courtesy of someone else's picture)

I don't want to scratch my phone fishing it out.
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QUOTE(bsl555 @ Apr 22 2008, 06:42 PM)
This is what I meant.. (courtesy of someone else's picture)

I don't want to scratch my phone fishing it out.
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Yes, best to get the shop fella to fix it for you. If not you need steady hands, very sharp eyesight and CLEAN THE PHONE of grease, dirt and dust BEFORE you stick on the protective layer. I had to use my head magnifying glass, a camera dust blower and clean with Amway LOC solution before I stick it on very carefully for a perfect job. Not easy but must be done carefully to get things done 1st TIME RIGHT!.
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Hey guys.. last saturday i went to the shop where i bought my K850 and guess wut?? the shop fellar, she formated my phone without telling me vmad.gif vmad.gif and all files, contact numbers and important messages gone just like that right in front of me sad.gif sad.gif stupid laa.. don't wanna go back to that shop again mad.gif she even blamed me the problems occured due to my action on putting skin on the phone.. rolleyes.gif well.. at least looking at the bright side for now the phone is oki.. all problems stated didn't occur.. yet! ow well.. moving on with my life.. sigh


Anyway guys, is the phone designed so that when we put it on the table with its rear facing the table's surface, the sound from the speaker will be blocked.. any of u guys noticed that??
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QUOTE(Aishiteru^Suki @ Apr 22 2008, 08:14 PM)
Hey guys.. last saturday i went to the shop where i bought my K850 and guess wut?? the shop fellar, she formated my phone without telling me  vmad.gif  vmad.gif and all files, contact numbers and important messages gone just like that right in front of me  sad.gif  sad.gif stupid laa.. don't wanna go back to that shop again  mad.gif she even blamed me the problems occured due to my action on putting skin on the phone..  rolleyes.gif well.. at least looking at the bright side for now the phone is oki.. all problems stated didn't occur.. yet! ow well.. moving on with my life.. sigh
Anyway guys, is the phone designed so that when we put it on the table with its rear facing the table's surface, the sound from the speaker will be blocked.. any of u guys noticed that??
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QUOTE(Aishiteru^Suki @ Apr 22 2008, 08:14 PM)
Hey guys.. last saturday i went to the shop where i bought my K850 and guess wut?? the shop fellar, she formated my phone without telling me  vmad.gif  vmad.gif and all files, contact numbers and important messages gone just like that right in front of me  sad.gif  sad.gif stupid laa.. don't wanna go back to that shop again  mad.gif she even blamed me the problems occured due to my action on putting skin on the phone..  rolleyes.gif well.. at least looking at the bright side for now the phone is oki.. all problems stated didn't occur.. yet! ow well.. moving on with my life.. sigh
Anyway guys, is the phone designed so that when we put it on the table with its rear facing the table's surface, the sound from the speaker will be blocked.. any of u guys noticed that??
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sweat.gif which shop so terrible service?

QUOTE(bsl555 @ Apr 22 2008, 08:21 PM)
That is why, get a SIM card reader and store your phone book to your desktop or  laptop PC, or to CDROM. Like PC data, no excuse you don't backup if phone lost, misplaced, stolen, formatted.. need I say more?.
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biggrin.gif SE phone can do contacts backup to memory card.
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If you loose your phone including memory card..then how?.
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If you loose your phone including memory card..then how?.
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do nothing, since nothing can do also if no backup at other place...
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can both the m2 n micro sd memory card use together?
or 1 time oni can use 1 card?
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can both the m2 n micro sd memory card use together?
or 1 time oni can use 1 card?
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Yup, once u face the phone downwards, the volume is like 50% lighter = = That's why i often have to terbalik my phone ><
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Yup, once u face the phone downwards, the volume is like 50% lighter = = That's why i often have to terbalik my phone ><
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terbalik so that the sound can fully come out and thus having louder music...
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turn the phone so that the speaker is facing upwards if u want louder ringtone volume. realised that most SE phones the speaker is located at the back near the battery compartment.
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hi bros ... i got my k850i some time ago ...

1. i can't seem to update my ori set from midland, SEUS keep saying i got the latest version although its only R1CA037 .. have to go to EricServe for assistance?

2. my phone has the screen creaking / screen loose issue, have another fren who has the same problem, is this a problem - can it be rectified or its just the phone characteristic?

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QUOTE(netken @ Apr 22 2008, 11:08 PM)
hi bros ... i got my k850i some time ago ...

1. i can't seem to update my ori set from midland, SEUS keep saying i got the latest version although its only R1CA037 .. have to go to EricServe for assistance?

2. my phone has the screen creaking / screen loose issue, have another fren who has the same problem, is this a problem - can it be rectified or its just the phone characteristic?

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1. since yours is an ori set, updating the firmware @ Ericserve is free. no harm going. biggrin.gif

2. not sure about it but never experience any screen creaking or loose issue. the only problem is the insensitive touch buttons. might wanna bring it for a check @ SE. smile.gif
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Hey all, do you find the buttons somewhat harder to press than other models? Funnily I feel mine is a bit on the hard side...but it could prevent dialing accidentally.

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Hey all, do you find the buttons somewhat harder to press than other models? Funnily I feel mine is a bit on the hard side...but it could prevent dialing accidentally.
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u mean the keypad metal-chromish buttons or the touch-sensitive buttons? for the touch buttons, it will be hard to press when u have a crystal casing on, without it, much more easier & sensitive.
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still dun see anyone with the quicksilver k850i =/
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still dun see anyone with the quicksilver k850i =/
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IMO, i more prefer QuickSilver (midland) biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(teikwing @ Apr 23 2008, 10:18 AM)
u mean the keypad metal-chromish buttons or the touch-sensitive buttons? for the touch buttons, it will be hard to press when u have a crystal casing on, without it, much more easier & sensitive.
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Of course not questioning on touch sensitive buttons...its the main alpha-numerical buttons..black buttons? Clicky and somewhat hard?..good or bad, don't know.
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QUOTE(bsl555 @ Apr 23 2008, 12:30 PM)
Of course not questioning on touch sensitive buttons...its the main alpha-numerical buttons..black buttons? Clicky and somewhat hard?..good or bad, don't know.
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It goes fine with me.. I guess small fingers really help tongue.gif Maybe you have to work on how you press the button, sometimes it feels kinda hard if i press it differently. By the way you will get used to it wink.gif
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I'm feeling very weird this model keys are the hardest among 2 other SE models (even my last Nok6600 wasn't that bad..even with lousy 3rd rate el cheapo quality keypad!. I'm just baffled!.
Probably the worst phone I've experience.. No!..nothing else wrong..except keypad and D-pad ring UI...terrible!.

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QUOTE(bsl555 @ Apr 23 2008, 04:49 PM)
I'm feeling very weird this model keys are the hardest among 2 other SE models (even my last Nok6600 wasn't that bad..even with lousy 3rd rate el cheapo quality keypad!. I'm just baffled!.
Probably the worst phone I've experience.. No!..nothing else wrong..except keypad and D-pad ring UI...terrible!.
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Actually before buying handphones one should check "kaw kaw" all the features including its physical profiles rolleyes.gif . It only takes few minutes to notice the keypad and d-pad, well at least for me it does. I realized the buttons are somehow uncomfortable yet i bought the phone cause its features mesmerized me and I know i can live with that keypad. wink.gif Just my personal thoughts..
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i think the keypad is still ok for me... not that difficult to press. but at first i think the d-pad is a bit uncomfortable and hard... the first few days, i feel a bit pain in my thumb because of using the d-pad. but now get used to it already...
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QUOTE(ken_zie @ Apr 23 2008, 08:04 PM)
i feel a bit pain in my thumb because of using the d-pad. but now get used to it already...
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Wow!..you must have been pressing buttons and D-pad whole day!.. 1st time I've heard anyone complain "finger pain!" using a cellphone. tongue.gif Hou tor yeh kau ah?..

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rclxms.gif Cool...the PSP alike media/photo/video player. R1EA031 firmware built in.

But, the JP8 seem not compatible w JP7 J2ME app sweat.gif eg, the 'enter' key changed to 'back'... K860i only one 'Select' key right? sweat.gif sweat.gif
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Urgent!! HELP!! icon_question.gif
My K850i can't startup after i plug in the data cable to my friend's pc to transfer some files. when i on the phone, the keypad light and the camera cover blue light just stay there.. LCD dun have anything, and the phone is just freeze there.. so i try to reflash it by using the SEUS, it can detect my phone in flash mode, but when it show the percentage to transfer the firmware into my phone, it keep freeze at the 0%... after few min, got error saying that "error to update phone, please try again." i've tried many times, but looks no help.
So anyone do face this kind of prob b4? my firmware is the latest 1: R1EA037 if not mistaken, coz when i try to update tru the SEUS, it said my phone already the latest firmware.

so any taiko do knwo how to solve??? icon_question.gif icon_question.gif please help...
( i suspect will it infected by virus? my friend pc didn't install any antivirus, n his pc is very messy 1... rclxub.gif )

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the keypad is ok for me. might be too small for some, but its kinda hard when texting though.
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QUOTE(davidgm16 @ Apr 24 2008, 02:22 AM)
Urgent!! HELP!! icon_question.gif
My K850i can't startup after i plug in the data cable to my friend's pc to transfer some files. when i on the phone, the keypad light and the camera cover blue light just stay there.. LCD dun have anything, and the phone is just freeze there.. so i try to reflash it by using the SEUS, it can detect my phone in flash mode, but when it show the percentage to transfer the firmware into my phone, it keep freeze at the 0%... after few min, got error saying that "error to update phone, please try again." i've tried many times, but looks no help.
So anyone do face this kind of prob b4? my firmware is the latest 1: R1EA037 if not mistaken, coz when i try to update tru the SEUS, it said my phone already the latest firmware.

so any taiko do knwo how to solve??? icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif  please help...
( i suspect will it infected by virus? my friend pc didn't install any antivirus, n his pc is very messy 1... rclxub.gif )
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Is that the BROD (Blue Ring of Death)? Many people in a few forums claimed that their phones have been like that due to some error in firmware and unable to startup their phone, patch and etc, if possible would recommend u to bring it back to the shop you have bought it, most likely they'll replace you with a new one, or you can reflash it yourself, though it's not free for now, like kulan something and davincci.
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If davidgm16 had the latest firmware and still encountered BROD, its obvious something in the electronics is defective. Yes, replacement phone is best solution and there's been a lot of talk of BROD like no other phone. SE should recall the phone or revamp this model for obvious reasons. I'm glad to have sold mine off..not wanting all sorts to happen in due time, a joke and much user annoyance to me. NO MORE K850i for me!. Blardi flawed phone model despite its hi-end features..sorry!. I'm going to buy the less problematic and seemingly more stable K810i again.

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Is the original quicksilver black available in the market locally?
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Is the original quicksilver black available in the market locally?
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QUOTE(Ver @ Apr 24 2008, 09:06 AM)
Is that the BROD (Blue Ring of Death)? Many people in a few forums claimed that their phones have been like that due to some error in firmware and unable to startup their phone, patch and etc, if possible would recommend u to bring it back to the shop you have bought it, most likely they'll replace you with a new one, or you can reflash it yourself, though it's not free for now, like kulan something and davincci.
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omg... looks like this is quite a common prob appeared in quite number of K850i owners? my phone is an AP set and still under warrenty, they have to replace a new unit for me right? icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(davidgm16 @ Apr 24 2008, 10:57 AM)
omg... looks like this is quite a common prob appeared in quite number of K850i owners? my phone is an AP set and still under warrenty, they have to replace a new unit for me right? icon_question.gif
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Its been reported by foreign owners in their own places but I've no idea how rampant it is in Malaysia...perhaps we only know so much through the internet. Not everyone reports it over the internet here, so we really can't say.
Yes, your AP service center should replace or repair the phone, but if it happens again, hard to say what the AP will do. You know the working culture here of people..they can Ah chee, Ah chaw being evasive. Thats why its sometimes more worth for less risk to buy ORI. WHilst owning this phone, I always felt its a flawed design. Its also being reported the CPU is barely sufficient processing power (same or worse than K810/K800), resulting in being laggy and just NOT ENOUGH cpu speed. Even the lastest firmware update changelog doesn't hint of any relation to BROD.

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Is there a particular firmware I can flash the phone to which doesn't suffer from this BROD? I'm planning to buy mine this Sunday. Can I ask them to give me the latest software version immediately?
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Its been reported by foreign owners in their own places but I've no idea how rampant it is in Malaysia...perhaps we only know so much through the internet. Not everyone reports it over the internet here, so we really can't say.
Yes, your AP service center should replace or repair the phone, but if it happens again, hard to say what the AP will do. You know the working culture here of people..they can Ah chee, Ah chaw being evasive. Thats why its sometimes more worth for less risk to buy ORI. WHilst owning this phone, I always felt its a flawed design. Its also being reported the CPU is barely sufficient processing power (same or worse than K810/K800), resulting in being laggy and just NOT ENOUGH cpu speed. Even the lastest firmware update changelog doesn't hint of any relation to BROD.
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any original midland set facing such problem so far?

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Is there a particular firmware I can flash the phone to which doesn't suffer from this BROD? I'm planning to buy mine this Sunday. Can I ask them to give me the latest software version immediately?
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still back to the question, 'depend which AP company'
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Its been reported by foreign owners in their own places but I've no idea how rampant it is in Malaysia...perhaps we only know so much through the internet. Not everyone reports it over the internet here, so we really can't say.
Yes, your AP service center should replace or repair the phone, but if it happens again, hard to say what the AP will do. You know the working culture here of people..they can Ah chee, Ah chaw being evasive. Thats why its sometimes more worth for less risk to buy ORI. WHilst owning this phone, I always felt its a flawed design. Its also being reported the CPU is barely sufficient processing power (same or worse than K810/K800), resulting in being laggy and just NOT ENOUGH cpu speed. Even the lastest firmware update changelog doesn't hint of any relation to BROD.
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i don think you can...
you have to go to service center to do it...
the shops don have it... smile.gif
except you flash it in ur home...
but i rather save all the troublesome jus send it to SE center... smile.gif
Ori they will free the upgrade firmware for you 1 yr also... smile.gif
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Urgent!! HELP!! icon_question.gif
My K850i can't startup after i plug in the data cable to my friend's pc to transfer some files. when i on the phone, the keypad light and the camera cover blue light just stay there.. LCD dun have anything, and the phone is just freeze there.. so i try to reflash it by using the SEUS, it can detect my phone in flash mode, but when it show the percentage to transfer the firmware into my phone, it keep freeze at the 0%... after few min, got error saying that "error to update phone, please try again." i've tried many times, but looks no help.
So anyone do face this kind of prob b4? my firmware is the latest 1: R1EA037 if not mistaken, coz when i try to update tru the SEUS, it said my phone already the latest firmware.

so any taiko do knwo how to solve??? icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif  please help...
( i suspect will it infected by virus? my friend pc didn't install any antivirus, n his pc is very messy 1... rclxub.gif )
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I'm having the same problems like this but mine is after charging then it just won't "wake up" cry.gif Anyway, mine is AP and still under warranty. Went back to the shop, they say will send for warranty and they won't try to repair it themselves. So far it's 6 days liaw.. still no news from the hp shop. doh.gif

By the way, i did try to reflash mine and it doesn't work either.. i'm using latest firmware! sweat.gif
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I'm having the same problems like this but mine is after charging then it just won't "wake up" cry.gif  Anyway, mine is AP and still under warranty. Went back to the shop, they say will send for warranty and they won't try to repair it themselves. So far it's 6 days liaw.. still no news from the hp shop. doh.gif

By the way, i did try to reflash mine and it doesn't work either.. i'm using latest firmware! sweat.gif
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omg rclxub.gif ... which AP company u get yours from? u not directly get to the AP company rite? maybe this cause it slower? shakehead.gif how can... 6 days no phone to use....
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hmm... i'd try to go tonite, btw my AP set was buy from final choice. thanks for the info anyway... thumbup.gif
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If yours from Final Choice, go directly and get it serviced at Final Choice whom they operate during normal working hours. If you go tonight, you hand it over to the shop, the shop will hand it over to FC like next day or so..
You don't have to go through the shop, I believe they can't do anything to it.

BTW, I'm confident new firmware CANNOT be responsible for the BROD..its a mobo problem most likely. (as proven in your case where latest firmware already updated, yet it happened..right?)
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If yours from Final Choice, go directly and get it serviced at Final Choice whom they operate during normal working hours. If you go tonight, you hand it over to the shop, the shop will hand it over to FC like next day or so..
You don't have to go through the shop, I believe they can't do anything to it.

BTW, I'm confident new firmware CANNOT be responsible for the BROD..its a mobo problem most likely. (as proven in your case where latest firmware already updated, yet it happened..right?)
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just go thru some forums... i planned to try to solve it using the kulankendi 1st... just cost 8 Euro. it might better incase i really so bad luck kena brod again, i still can recover myself without wasting 1 cent again.
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just go thru some forums... i planned to try to solve it using the kulankendi 1st... just cost 8 Euro. it might better incase i really so bad luck kena brod again, i still can recover myself without wasting 1 cent again.
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I'm not sure if those 3rd party firmware will be the same as here, where here got BM, Chinese language within. Not a problem if you don't use those languages.
Anyway, I hope it works out for you, otherwise best to have it solved at your AP service center. They should be prepared for any eventuality under warranty. I'm really sick to hear for SE flagship K series model, its so prone to problems. I've already disliked its keypad UI within first few days. Now, even HALF the price also I won't buy. SE really need to be cursed this time round!. Sorry folks if I'm a spoilsport, but this is ONE BAD model from SE!.

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I'm not sure if those 3rd party firmware will be the same as here, where here got BM, Chinese language within. Not a problem if you don't use those languages.
Anyway, I hope it works out for you, otherwise best to have it solved at your AP service center. They should be prepared for any eventuality under warranty. I'm really sick to hear for SE flagship K series model, its so prone to problems. Now, even HALF the price also I won't buy. SE really need to be cursed this time round!.
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i remember my firmware was xxxCHINAxx.. so i think i look back for this should have the language pack like old time.... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(bsl555 @ Apr 24 2008, 06:46 PM)
I'm not sure if those 3rd party firmware will be the same as here, where here got BM, Chinese language within. Not a problem if you don't use those languages.
Anyway, I hope it works out for you, otherwise best to have it solved at your AP service center. They should be prepared for any eventuality under warranty. I'm really sick to hear for SE flagship K series model, its so prone to problems. I've already disliked its keypad UI within first few days. Now, even HALF the price also I won't buy. SE really need to be cursed this time round!. Sorry folks if I'm a spoilsport, but this is ONE BAD model from SE!.
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The newest firmware, which is Raxxxx037 is confirmed to be safe from BROD. The hardware doesn't have much problem as i am sure that SE won't release such a high end hp with low-end useless hardwares. It's all bout the firmware to fully release the potential of the phone. Regarding the design and how the phone is designed, that's personal view and opinion on it ba =P
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i remember my firmware was xxxCHINAxx.. so i think i look back for this should have the language pack like old time.... sweat.gif
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Should be APAC_ANZ firmware like my previous one. My K810i is China_APAC.
The K850i have more EU languages.
Ah..doesn't really matter to most local users here.


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The newest firmware, which is Raxxxx037 is confirmed to be safe from BROD. The hardware doesn't have much problem as i am sure that SE won't release such a high end hp with low-end useless hardwares. It's all bout the firmware to fully release the potential of the phone. Regarding the design and how the phone is designed, that's personal view and opinion on it ba =P
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Then how do you explain David's phone with that newest 037 firmware and he suffered BROD?. Coincidence?.

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In order to fully get over BROD from firmware RAxxx037, u will have to reflash the whole phone, as SEUS only updates ur phone with minor parts and leaves the rest unchanged, it is already said in forums that a total reflash (not update), will totally solve the BROD problem.
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i'm wondering how often u guys charge this phone?? once a day?? once 2 day??

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i'm wondering how often u guys charge this phone?? once a day?? once 2 day??
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For me, not everyday..but till the battery reads somewhere 10-20%. I do the same to my laptop, which luck on my side the battery is coming to 4 years old and can still last an hour or so. Most important is to charge the battery overnight on Day 1...then pray it'll not give problems.

Having said that, it can be said laptop batteries consist of multiple cells and should one or more prematurely fail, it'll pull the rest down and the whole battery pack will act up and fail.
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In order to fully get over BROD from firmware RAxxx037, u will have to reflash the whole phone, as SEUS only updates ur phone with minor parts and leaves the rest unchanged, it is already said in forums that a total reflash (not update), will totally solve the BROD problem.
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if not mistaken.. 037 is not the newest 1... 031 only the latest.. which suspect the BROD(est) version... rclxub.gif
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if not mistaken.. 037 is not the newest 1... 031 only the latest.. which suspect the BROD(est) version... rclxub.gif
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nope, R1EA037 shud be the latest firmware... not sure abt the BROD though =/
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hmm... i'm wrong then... should be the R1CA037 is the BRODless..


Added on April 25, 2008, 3:32 amyes... my phone recovered from BROD! rclxm9.gif now using back the R1CA037... not dare to update the latest 1 anymore... just wait for the newer firmware coming out 1st...

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nope, R1EA037 shud be the latest firmware... not sure abt the BROD though =/
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QUOTE(davidgm16 @ Apr 25 2008, 12:06 AM)
hmm... i'm wrong then... should be the R1CA037 is the BRODless..


Added on April 25, 2008, 3:32 amyes... my phone recovered from BROD! rclxm9.gif  now using back the R1CA037... not dare to update the latest 1 anymore... just wait for the newer firmware coming out 1st...
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sweat.gif thinking should go for R1EA037 or stay tune R1EA031...
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go for E1EA037, more stable and safe from BROD also
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go for E1EA037, more stable and safe from BROD also
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hahaha... i was BROD after i upgraded to R1EA037... sweat.gif
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hahaha... i was BROD after i upgraded to R1EA037... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Ver @ Apr 25 2008, 09:02 AM)
go for E1EA037, more stable and safe from BROD also
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Not really. as EA037 still facing "hang, then blue circle light went off" issue on certain batch sweat.gif (i read from china/hk K850i thread)

QUOTE(davidgm16 @ Apr 25 2008, 09:23 AM)
hahaha... i was BROD after i upgraded to R1EA037... sweat.gif
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ya..this is what i worry. what I found EA037 just slightly improve da performance where normally user hard notice biggrin.gif
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Do anyone here using R1EA031 and is BROD free? or flash to this firmware and no prob so far after recovery from BROD? Feel like upgrading to 031 sweat.gif the R1CA037 a bit cacat..... my video recording time all mismatch with my current snapping time... rclxub.gif
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demand pix from our first quicksilver user irontech!!!  rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(davidgm16 @ Apr 25 2008, 10:40 AM)
Do anyone here using R1EA031 and is BROD free? or flash to this firmware and no prob so far after recovery from BROD? Feel like upgrading to 031 sweat.gif  the R1CA037 a bit cacat..... my video recording time all mismatch with my current snapping time... rclxub.gif
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for those older than R1CA037, yes, u should upgrade to at least R1EA031 as the change log :-

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for those older than R1CA037, yes, u should upgrade to at least R1EA031 as the change log :-

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hmmm... i'll have a try on tonite... cool2.gif hope it's REALLY BROD free.... sweat.gif
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hmmm... i'll have a try on tonite... cool2.gif  hope it's REALLY BROD free.... sweat.gif
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If I were you get rid of this phone and you'll have zero nightmares...hope the upcoming C series will fare better.
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If I were you get rid of this phone and you'll have zero nightmares...hope the upcoming C series will fare better.
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hahaha.. i'll wait till iphone come out a 3G version... brows.gif
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for those older than R1CA037, yes, u should upgrade to at least R1EA031 as the change log :-

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how much is the se stand charger? can be used with k850? rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(davidgm16 @ Apr 25 2008, 11:43 AM)
hahaha.. i'll wait till iphone come out a 3G version... brows.gif
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iphone flip! drool.gif

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how much is the se stand charger? can be used with k850? rolleyes.gif
iphone flip!  drool.gif
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Here's a lead:

http://www.lelong.com.my/Auc/List/2008-04D...radle_Sales.htm

Its only Desk Stand..NOT charger.. You connect your charger to it permanently and it becomes a charging station.
The beauty is you can put this permanently on your table/desk and connect the USB cable and headphones all in.
I bought one since I have 2 SE phones..now ONE left.

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QUOTE(Redundant @ Apr 25 2008, 11:53 AM)
how much is the se stand charger? can be used with k850? rolleyes.gif
iphone flip!  drool.gif
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hahah.. it looks like still a rumor... but anyhow... the iphone now looks chun enuf! drool.gif
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how much is the se stand charger? can be used with k850? rolleyes.gif
iphone flip!  drool.gif
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its P990i stand biggrin.gif for most SE phone (as long the fast port built bottom)
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QUOTE(bsl555 @ Apr 25 2008, 11:59 AM)
Here's a lead:

http://www.lelong.com.my/Auc/List/2008-04D...radle_Sales.htm

Its only Desk Stand..NOT charger.. You connect your charger to it permanently and it becomes a charging station.
The beauty is you can put this permanently on your table/desk and connect the USB cable and headphones all in.
I bought one since I have 2 SE phones..now ONE left.
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QUOTE(iRonTech @ Apr 25 2008, 12:10 PM)
its P990i stand  biggrin.gif for most SE phone (as long the fast port built bottom)
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I'm using R1EA031 and I'm not suffering from any problem except that flash sync for object more than 1m is out.
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expensive!!!  shocking.gif
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If it was 3 figures, I'd say expensive, but its not which is why I bought one. There's no imitations of it AFAIK...maybe later I don't know.
Anyway, its cheaper than most of your stuff in your siggie.
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I'm using R1EA031 and I'm not suffering from any problem except that flash sync for object more than 1m is out.
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rclxms.gif Good to hear that. urs is ap/midland set??
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to totally get away from BROD, a TOTAL REFLASH is needed for the phone to ver. 037 instead of just updating it.
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to totally get away from BROD, a TOTAL REFLASH is needed for the phone to ver. 037 instead of just updating it.
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i plan to total reflash it to R1EA031 by tonite... let's see wat happen.... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(bsl555 @ Apr 25 2008, 12:39 PM)
If it was 3 figures, I'd say expensive, but its not which is why I bought one. There's no imitations of it AFAIK...maybe later I don't know.
Anyway, its cheaper than most of your stuff in your siggie.
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aiyo, im poor ma... sad.gif

btw, renee's k850 sp just reached my mail box juz now.. applied it to my phone dy... not bad! oni took 2 days to reach =)
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Davinci flashes MAIN and FS and FOTA parts of the firmware at the same time. It overwrites the previous ones on the phone, but it doesn't "format" anything.

SEUS only updates MAIN and maybe a part of FS, thus retaining contacts, messages, settings and other things. Davinci resets all those things because it writes the complete firmware (MAIN+FS).

I really wish that SE would come up with a way to back up settings and contacts (including picture and ringtone associations), SMS. Currently, we can only do it partially. This was my problem when I experienced a BROD the other day. I'll be travelling in less than a week, so you guys can imagine my frustration when my phone died so soon before my vacation. Anyway, flashing R1CA037 with Davinci fixed it. I'm not really bothered anymore by having an older firmware, as long as it will work. Took me over two hours to restore everything, though...


http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?t...167190&start=15
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http://www.kulankendi.com/index2.php euro 8

http://www1.davinciteam.com/index.html?pro=world euro 16

according to esato forumer infor biggrin.gif

as funny part is, after they use kkclient/davinci flash wouldn't face BROD issue anymore. probably, the way flash w & w/o format make the different.


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Nope AP set. Thailand region I think. Not sure which AP company.
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rclxms.gif as long no problem smile.gif

QUOTE(ken_zie @ Apr 25 2008, 02:21 PM)
hmm... how to know the AP set is from which region?
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aiyo, im poor ma...  sad.gif

btw, renee's k850 sp just reached my mail box juz now.. applied it to my phone dy... not bad! oni took 2 days to reach =)

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do it online? @@

@irontech
the back sp is kindda hard to apply... rmb to switch off ur fans when u do it to avoid the plastic flim from falling out of ur hands (the sp is vv thin n light) =/
once it touches the table or any surface, dusts tends to stick onto the sp rclxub.gif
i didnt use the sp for the lcd coz i've applied one dy when i bought the phone from the shop... rm5 doh.gif

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do it online? @@
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yes. download their client software, run it, buy their credit (do check how much for ur model 1st) put in login password.

same as SEUS, but this is pay mode. smile.gif if euro 8 can solve problem, IMO its consider cheap as just few clicks (save ur time/petrol/parking go to dealer pay for flashing)
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i think we shud do a master reset everytime after we've updated the firmware  nod.gif
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QUOTE(iRonTech @ Apr 25 2008, 03:32 PM)
yes. download their client software, run it, buy their credit (do check how much for ur model 1st) put in login password.

same as SEUS, but this is pay mode. smile.gif if euro 8 can solve problem, IMO its consider cheap as just few clicks (save ur time/petrol/parking go to dealer pay for flashing)
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I agree that, if not i will keep blaming that i dont master reset, then it cause the crash.
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how to master reset the k850i?
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My hand damn itchy..just update my firmware from r1ea031 to 037..after finish,i realise n check this thread. doh.gif

What should i do guys?should i master reset my phone to avoid BROD or just ignore it.
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My hand damn itchy..just update my firmware from r1ea031 to 037..after finish,i realise n check this thread. doh.gif

What should i do guys?should i master reset my phone to avoid BROD or just ignore it.
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master reset doesnt make u lose much... just hav to set back ur current theme, wallpaper, ringtonez and also the internet settings...

do take note there are two options in the master reset menu, one will not make u lose ur contacts and pictures stored in the phone memory while the other wont... @@
i suggest u read the instruction manual regarding it first =)


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u might have a try to do the master reset, can prove whether really can avoid it by doing it... sweat.gif
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i plan to total reflash it to R1EA031 by tonite... let's see wat happen.... sweat.gif
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How do you guys totally reflash without having to pay ya, i don't mind the 8 euro, but i don't have like a paypal, or any other form of credit card that i can use at the moment, plus i'm like away from malaysia for the moment, and as long as this year goes ><
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QUOTE(davidgm16 @ Apr 25 2008, 03:35 PM)
ya... save ur saliva to explain to the shop ppl...


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haizz.. since when this is a need after update from SEUS already.... the other model all no need.. but this... shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(Redundant @ Apr 25 2008, 05:56 PM)
master reset doesnt make u lose much... just hav to set back ur current theme, wallpaper, ringtonez and also the internet settings...

do take note there are two options in the master reset menu, one will not make u lose ur contacts and pictures stored in the phone memory while the other wont... @@
i suggest u read the instruction manual regarding it first =)


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u use the master reset from 'just settings mode' ?
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just settings reset  smile.gif
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Just master reset.Finger cross..i choose reset all instead setting reset.
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The pictures are a bit blur lah.

Why is the camera like that?
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Over-exposure of light due to sunlight or flash gua >< Dunno like much bout taking good pics de...

Guys, erm, how do you set ur song to repeat over and over again in ur media players like one song only de?
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QUOTE(iRonTech @ Apr 26 2008, 12:51 PM)
sad.gif I've been waiting for this repeat title feature since W850i till now... but seem like SE has 'forgotten' put in this function
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Easy, create a playlist folder, add ONLY a particular song that u wanted, then go to setting, set the loop to "on" then u can listen the song that u added in the playlist repeat and repeat. This is the only solution.
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Easy, create a playlist folder, add ONLY a particular song that u wanted, then go to setting, set the loop to "on" then u can listen the song that u added in the playlist repeat and repeat. This is the only solution.
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since K850i media player is good enough (auto search all media files), its bonus feature if repeat track was there biggrin.gif tongue.gif
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wow, edkiasu ditched the iphone to use k850? wwhhhhyyyyyy??? @@
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wow, edkiasu ditched the iphone to use k850? wwhhhhyyyyyy??? @@
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Should we think touch screen phones are always practical or best solution? I think not, but just fancy. (I'm not saying this phone is entirely friendly. damn the hard buttons and stupid D-pad). Nevertheless, I still think phones must have hardware keypad for obvious reasons.
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biggrin.gif just flash to R1EA037, did a full master reset.. will monitor if any problem wink.gif
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QUOTE(Redundant @ Apr 26 2008, 05:14 PM)
wow, edkiasu ditched the iphone to use k850? wwhhhhyyyyyy??? @@
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Dude.. the reasons -

1.I need camera with good flash..
2.I need a simple yet good music player (for me, ipod is a bit troublesome)
3.Iphone is kinda hard to take care of.. (even the pouch could cost me around RM1++ @@)
4.I dont really use up to such high-end function from iphone..
5.I prefer keypads
6.And a lot more i guess blush.gif

QUOTE(bsl555 @ Apr 26 2008, 05:18 PM)
Should we think touch screen phones are always practical or best solution? I think not, but just fancy. (I'm not saying this phone is entirely friendly. damn the hard buttons and stupid D-pad). Nevertheless, I still think phones must have hardware keypad for obvious reasons.
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For me, iphone is an awesome phone.. the touch screen is not a regular touch screen.. I would say its a "smartest" touch screen ever.. and the wifi with safari browser, just simply awesome as well.. you should experience watching youtube on iphone, u will love it.. But.. blush.gif

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sometimes it boils down to people's own preferences.  biggrin.gif
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biggrin.gif just flash to R1EA037, did a full master reset.. will monitor if any problem wink.gif
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Guys, isit really worth it to reflash from 029 to 037, cause 8 euro is a lot for me now >< Is there any really noticable change in speed of the phone in media and etc?
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QUOTE(edkiasu @ Apr 26 2008, 07:30 PM)
Dude.. the reasons - 

1.I need camera with good flash..
2.I need a simple yet good music player (for me, ipod is a bit troublesome)
3.Iphone is kinda hard to take care of.. (even the pouch could cost me around RM1++ @@)
4.I dont really use up to such high-end function from iphone..
5.I prefer keypads
6.And a lot more i guess  blush.gif
For me, iphone is an awesome phone.. the touch screen is not a regular touch screen.. I would say its a "smartest" touch screen ever.. and the wifi with safari browser, just simply awesome as well.. you should experience watching youtube on iphone, u will love it.. But..  blush.gif
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apple shud really make the new iphone with higher mp camera (at least 3.2mp) + auto focus + flash (at least LED flash)
how can we live without a good camera in a phone nowdays? lolz...
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Just got my k850(quicksilver) today smile.gif

Was wondering, my older phone(k800, which I no longer have) had this theme called Nightwatch (The main color of the theme was black and purple) Not sure if it was pre-loaded by the provider(Optus, a service provider in australia) or if it came with the phone. I was wondering if anyone knows where to download it and if it works on the k850?


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QUOTE(naith @ Apr 26 2008, 11:54 PM)
Just got my k850(quicksilver) today smile.gif

Was wondering, my older phone(k800, which I no longer have) had this theme called Nightwatch (The main color of the theme was black and purple) Not sure if it was pre-loaded by the provider(Optus, a service provider in australia) or if it came with the phone. I was wondering if anyone knows where to download it and if it works on the k850?
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RM 1590

My armored up k850 smile.gif

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QUOTE(naith @ Apr 27 2008, 01:00 AM)
RM 1590

My armored up k850 smile.gif

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Thanx. still hoping to find the nightwatch theme to use on it though. The colors would be quite matching IMHO.
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itz special to me... nice hp u got thr... if i not mistaken, u r the 1st black user... congratzzz...  rclxms.gif
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btw, tried toying the camera in the dark juz now...

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the Xenon flash isnt strong enough for far objects in the dark =/

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it's better to take photos without the flash during the night? hmm.gif

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iey, how come people near car door looks blurry?

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without flash, shutter speed become slow. thats why any movement make the picture looks blur. correct me if i wrong.
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what is the first picture looks so underexposed?
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i think SE still dun make improvement on K850i cam
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It's a flash sync problem which prevails in the older firmware problem, or probably just a camera setting problem ba.
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Haih...so far 3 BRODs with the EA037 firmware. Anyone did NOT have ANY BROD with the new firmware?
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Could anyone suggest some settings for the camera for basic picture taking?
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i really wanted to buy this phone, but after i google on BROD, i found tons of issue regarding this problem. now really donno is it worth to buy or not... sad.gif
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QUOTE(Ver @ Apr 27 2008, 07:11 AM)
It's a flash sync problem which prevails in the older firmware problem, or probably just a camera setting problem  ba.
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the flash sync is ok but when the object is far away (notice the head lamps of the car is illuminated in the 1st pic), it's just not strong enough to light up the environment for it... cannot compare it to those from a real digital camera where the amount of flash can be adjusted according to the environment rolleyes.gif

here's one of the close up shot with the flash on =)
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p/s: the place was realli dark as the picture was taken at the parking area outside jusco w.maju

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QUOTE(Redundant @ Apr 27 2008, 10:36 AM)
cannot compare it to those from a real digital camera where the amount of flash can be adjusted according to the environment   rolleyes.gif
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I could only think it'll be worse if it had an ordinary LED flash. Anyway, time and again here and other threads, don't compare with dedicated digicam. The smaller the flash the shorter its effective range, eventhough xenon or whatever.
Phone cam works best with good natural lighting or in sunlight, then you can tweak the photos digitally with software...thats about it. Thats why I keep and still use my 4 year old Olympus C-760 3.2MP BIG LENS camera for party pics or any other general purpose. It beats most and even latest compact cam in many departments. The bigger the lens, the bigger the flash..you get better results..thats it!.

QUOTE(cyborx @ Apr 27 2008, 10:30 AM)
i really wanted to buy this phone, but after i google on BROD, i found tons of issue regarding this problem. now really donno is it worth to buy or not...  sad.gif
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BROD is NO rumor at home or abroard, its a serious issue that makes this model a liability and risk. Of course no one will stop you from buying if you still insist..just be forewarned.

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even upgrading to the latest firmware still does not solves the BROD problem? wonder when SE wanna solve it. its like SE phones tend to have so much problem nowadays. cracked keypad, peeling keypad, unstable firmware etc. not to really complaint about it but just feel kinda disappointed sometimes. SE produce great phones but they gotta start ensure their phones are up to the quality their customer expectations.

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Yea, i feel tat Samsung is still better in the R&D segment =)
I also hav my 5MP Nikon E5700 digicam but i dun really like bringing it out to everywhere i go... this is where the k850i could really come in handy biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(teikwing @ Apr 27 2008, 01:15 PM)
even upgrading to the latest firmware still does not solves the BROD problem? wonder when SE wanna solve it. its 'like SE phones tend to have so much problem nowadays. cracked keypad, peeling keypad, unstable firmware etc. not to really complaint about it but just feel kinda disappointed sometimes. SE produce great phones but they gotta start ensure their phones are up to the quality their customer expects.
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As mentioned before, only a total reflash ( not only update through SEUS ) can solve the BROD problem in ver. 037
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QUOTE(squall_kay @ Apr 27 2008, 01:36 PM)
might be SE not very good in customers feedback and customers service..even in p1i, the latest FW still has bug  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(squall_kay @ Apr 27 2008, 01:36 PM)
might be SE not very good in customers feedback and customers service..even in p1i, the latest FW still has bug  sweat.gif
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SE should start looking in forums like LYN, Esato, NSE-SE to get the real picture of what's happening to their phones. for real. smile.gif
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halo,,,,, any of u won K850 quicksilver edition?


may i know wat is diff wif normal K850?

thanks
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QUOTE(Redundant @ Apr 27 2008, 01:38 AM)
first quicksilver black user shud be irontech  rclxms.gif

btw, tried toying the camera in the dark juz now...

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the Xenon flash isnt strong enough for far objects in the dark =/

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it's better to take photos without the flash during the night?  hmm.gif
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halo,,,,, any of u won K850 quicksilver edition?
may i know wat is diff wif normal K850?

thanks
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its color decor/match. full black color match Blue/Green/Silver line.

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how bout inside the phone?

is there any diff wif normal version?

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how bout inside the phone?

is there any diff wif normal version?
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no diff, mayb it comes it newer firmware as it's a new colour =)
irontech got his with the firmware R1EA031
besides tat, just a colour diff... mayb it's still rare now, but since it's not a limited edition, it will be popular soon nod.gif
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QUOTE(Redundant @ Apr 27 2008, 03:48 PM)
no diff, mayb it comes it newer firmware as it's a new colour =)
irontech got his with the firmware R1EA031
besides tat, just a colour diff... mayb it's still rare now, but since it's not a limited edition, it will be popular soon  nod.gif
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QUOTE(Redundant @ Apr 27 2008, 02:38 AM)
first quicksilver black user shud be irontech  rclxms.gif

btw, tried toying the camera in the dark juz now...

user posted image
the Xenon flash isnt strong enough for far objects in the dark =/

user posted image
it's better to take photos without the flash during the night?  hmm.gif
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about the flash , i think u need to set up a right distance from the objects u want to take a shot..
or another opinions?
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QUOTE(scorps @ Apr 27 2008, 04:22 PM)
about the flash , i think u need to set up a right distance from the objects u want to take a shot..
or another opinions?
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From the first pic with the dark car, it seems that theres three possibities (K850 wise)

1. Xenon flash was too weak to illuminate the subject (Normally it works better than LED,seriously for Xenon flash it illuminates very well in a range)
2. Camera ISO level was set too low, sensitivity towards light decreased.
3. Exposure value decreased

The second pic shows a blurred women

1. The shutter speed wasn't fast enough to capture the motion of the moving women/man (probably man)
2. Solution would be to increase the ISO so the that shutter speed would be increased but this might increase image noise. (Since we can't adjust shutterspeed in K850)

Terms here :
Lower ISO - sensor sensitivity towards light decreased , lower image noise.
Higher ISO - sensor sensitivity towards light increased , higher image noise
Shutterspeed - how long the sensor is exposed to incoming light

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QUOTE(khun_khun @ Apr 27 2008, 02:44 PM)
how bout inside the phone?

is there any diff wif normal version?
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QUOTE(Redundant @ Apr 27 2008, 03:48 PM)
no diff, mayb it comes it newer firmware as it's a new colour =)
irontech got his with the firmware R1EA031
besides tat, just a colour diff... mayb it's still rare now, but since it's not a limited edition, it will be popular soon  nod.gif
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ya, nothing much different inside software.


QUOTE(teikwing @ Apr 27 2008, 03:58 PM)
IMO, it looks more elegant & classy with full back & the silver lines. smile.gif
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nod.gif same tot, this is the reason i wait & choose quicksilver

QUOTE(carbon14 @ Apr 27 2008, 04:33 PM)
From the first pic with the dark car, it seems that theres three possibities (K850 wise)

1. Xenon flash was too weak to illuminate the subject (Normally it works better than LED,seriously for Xenon flash it illuminates very well in a range)
2. Camera ISO level was set too low, sensitivity towards light decreased.
3. Exposure value decreased

The second pic shows a blurred women

1. The shutter speed wasn't fast enough to capture the motion of the moving women/man (probably man)
2. Solution would be to increase the ISO so the that shutter speed would be increased but this might increase image noise. (Since we can't adjust shutterspeed in K850)

Terms here :
Lower ISO - sensor sensitivity towards light decreased , lower image noise.
Higher ISO - sensor sensitivity towards light increased , higher image noise
Shutterspeed - how long the sensor is exposed to incoming light
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notworthy.gif will try ur method
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QUOTE(carbon14 @ Apr 27 2008, 04:33 PM)
From the first pic with the dark car, it seems that theres three possibities (K850 wise)

1. Xenon flash was too weak to illuminate the subject (Normally it works better than LED,seriously for Xenon flash it illuminates very well in a range)
2. Camera ISO level was set too low, sensitivity towards light decreased.
3. Exposure value decreased

The second pic shows a blurred women

1. The shutter speed wasn't fast enough to capture the motion of the moving women/man (probably man)
2. Solution would be to increase the ISO so the that shutter speed would be increased but this might increase image noise. (Since we can't adjust shutterspeed in K850)

Terms here :
Lower ISO - sensor sensitivity towards light decreased , lower image noise.
Higher ISO - sensor sensitivity towards light increased , higher image noise
Shutterspeed - how long the sensor is exposed to incoming light
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great guide provided. smile.gif
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haiya,,,,,, if only color diff, i think SE no need to put quicksilver word.

hahhahah.

i thought tat hav sumthing diff inside phone other than color.


anyway, thanks for your help n explanation
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okok, here r the properties of the photos for reviews...

1st pic:
Camera: Sony Ericsson K850i
Exposure: 0.004 sec (1/250)
Aperture: f/2.8
Focal Length: 5.2 mm
ISO Speed: 200
Exposure Bias: 0/100 EV
Flash: Flash fired, auto mode

Orientation: Horizontal (normal)
X-Resolution: 72 dpi
Y-Resolution: 72 dpi
Software: R1EA037 prg12004404_CHINA_SO 00.00
Date and Time: 2008:04:26 20:18:37
YCbCr Positioning: Co-Sited
Date and Time (Original): 2008:04:26 20:18:36
Date and Time (Digitized): 2008:04:26 20:18:37
Metering Mode: Center Weighted Average
Color Space: sRGB
Digital Zoom Ratio: 100/100
Compression: JPEG
Image Width: 2592 pixels
Image Height: 1944 pixels

2nd pic:
Camera: Sony Ericsson K850i
Exposure: 0.167 sec (1/6)
Aperture: f/2.8
Focal Length: 5.2 mm
ISO Speed: 160
Exposure Bias: 0/100 EV
Flash: Flash did not fire

Orientation: Horizontal (normal)
X-Resolution: 72 dpi
Y-Resolution: 72 dpi
Software: R1EA037 prg12004404_CHINA_SO 00.00
Date and Time: 2008:04:26 20:18:54
YCbCr Positioning: Co-Sited
Date and Time (Original): 2008:04:26 20:18:53
Date and Time (Digitized): 2008:04:26 20:18:54
Metering Mode: Center Weighted Average
Color Space: sRGB
Digital Zoom Ratio: 100/100
Compression: JPEG
Image Width: 2592 pixels
Image Height: 1944 pixels
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QUOTE(Redundant @ Apr 27 2008, 10:38 PM)
1st pic:
Camera: Sony Ericsson K850i
Exposure: 0.004 sec (1/250)
Aperture: f/2.8
Focal Length: 5.2 mm
ISO Speed: 200
Exposure Bias: 0/100 EV
Flash: Flash fired, auto mode

2nd pic:
Camera: Sony Ericsson K850i
Exposure: 0.167 sec (1/6)
Aperture: f/2.8
Focal Length: 5.2 mm
ISO Speed: 160
Exposure Bias: 0/100 EV
Flash: Flash did not fire
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1. As you can see, the exposure time for the first image was very short indeed (1/250), the sensor did not receive enough incoming light. Taking in consideration fixed aperture, the higher ISO setting did not compensate enough for the fast shutter speed (1/250)
2. The second pic, exposure was significantly longer than the first one but the shutterspeed was slowed down to (1/6)
3. Both pictures had their exposure value or light value set to default "Exposure Bias: 0/100 EV". Increasing this would in turn allow more light in but the camera sensor will calculate then, different shutterspeeds and ISO for that compensation in exposure.

I think the users of K850 should know that sometimes, auto mode just doesn't give the shot that we want eh? sad.gif

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i got 2 k850i

both blue.........plz add mi to the list twice ehehe
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QUOTE(carbon14 @ Apr 27 2008, 11:55 PM)
1. As you can see, the exposure time for the first image was very short indeed (1/250), the sensor did not receive enough incoming light. Taking in consideration fixed aperture, the higher ISO setting did not compensate enough for the fast shutter speed (1/250)
2. The second pic, exposure was significantly longer than the first one but the shutterspeed was slowed down to (1/6)
3. Both pictures had their exposure value or light value set to default "Exposure Bias: 0/100 EV". Increasing this would in turn allow more light in but the camera sensor will calculate then, different shutterspeeds and ISO for that compensation in exposure.

I think the users of K850 should know that sometimes, auto mode just doesn't give the shot that we want eh?  sad.gif
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ya, K850i's camera operation is little bit different if compare w K800/810(most easier way).

QUOTE(bee993 @ Apr 28 2008, 06:56 AM)
i got 2 k850i

both blue.........plz add mi to the list twice ehehe
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notworthy.gif notworthy.gif couple fon? biggrin.gif
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choiheng - ori - company phone - Luminous Green
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How do I set a particular picture in a folder to be the album art for all the tracks contained within the folder?
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Anyone here has done a full flash of ur k850i (because of ap problems can't update with SEUS)? Can u add me on msn? I'm gonna flash my phone soon, but scared later un-do it ><
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wat should i do?
k 850i izit realy that much of problem?
nw still deciding buy it anot
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i thought K850i is on CID53 which still can't be reflash via XS++?
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QUOTE(Ver @ Apr 29 2008, 07:10 PM)
Anyone here has done a full flash of ur k850i (because of ap problems can't update with SEUS)? Can u add me on msn? I'm gonna flash my phone soon, but scared later un-do it ><
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use kkclient flash it (euro 8) biggrin.gif

QUOTE(supernick @ Apr 29 2008, 07:47 PM)
wat should i do?
k 850i izit realy that much of problem?
nw still deciding buy it anot
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my Quicksilver no hang/minor problem laugh.gif



XS still N/A for CID53, A2/100, & DB3150 biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(supernick @ Apr 29 2008, 07:47 PM)
wat should i do?
k 850i izit realy that much of problem?
nw still deciding buy it anot
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Problems? Right I shall tell you some, but the users here should be more familiar with it.

1. Dust getting inside the camera lens
2. Unable to be hacked yet, modding acoustics and all.
3. Touch Softkeys doesn't activate sometimes
4. Picture quality...Well you be the judge for yourself smile.gif

Why do i know this? I researched the K850, I was battling with two phones to purchase. The K850 and the P1i,in the end it was the P1i blush.gif
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What do you guys think about N76 ?
I want to ask those who got the K850. What's your comment ? Accept for the camera.
Want to compare K850 with N76.
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well, N76 is a Symbian phone while K850 uses the traditional SE platform. K850 has flash themes, xenon flash, touch-sensitive keys, new file browser interface etc.

the only thing i see special about N76 is the speaker as its sound is more bassy & loud. keypad is RAZR-wannabe type & doesn't look nice at all.

the main feature of K850i is its camera as its Cyber-shot branded. for sure you gotta take note of this feature when comparing. smile.gif

either u take N76 for stylish flip phone with less features & cheaper by around 200 bucks + Symbian & normal 2.0MP camera or

K850i with 5.0MP AF camera with xenon flash, touch-sensitive keys & SE interface.
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QUOTE(carbon14 @ Apr 29 2008, 11:13 PM)
Problems? Right I shall tell you some, but the users here should be more familiar with it.

1. Dust getting inside the camera lens
2. Unable to be hacked yet, modding acoustics and all.
3. Touch Softkeys doesn't activate sometimes
4. Picture quality...Well you be the judge for yourself  smile.gif

Why do i know this? I researched the K850, I was battling with two phones to purchase. The K850 and the P1i,in the end it was the P1i  blush.gif
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hmm.gif k850i camera settings more 'complicated'/no as easier as k800/p1i?

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i was thinking to buy this phone

any good or bad opinion about this phone?

how about the camera? is it good?

what i see in gsmarena review.. compared to n95, k850 a bit blur..

is it true? hmm.gif notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(iRonTech @ Apr 29 2008, 08:38 PM)
use kkclient flash it (euro 8) biggrin.gif
my Quicksilver no hang/minor problem  laugh.gif
XS still N/A for CID53, A2/100, & DB3150  biggrin.gif
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iRonTech, how long u've been using that k850 Quicksilver? ever encounter BROD b4?
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iRonTech, how long u've been using that k850 Quicksilver? ever encounter BROD b4?
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7 days flex.gif

no BROD & minor error. its pefect icon_rolleyes.gif

after upgrade to 037 FW, i can see the Media Player/web/J2ME app slightly faster
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QUOTE(iRonTech @ Apr 30 2008, 11:23 AM)
7 days flex.gif

no BROD & minor error. its pefect icon_rolleyes.gif

after upgrade to 037 FW, i can see the Media Player/web/J2ME app slightly faster
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how to upgrade it? mind to explain it? notworthy.gif
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www.kulankendi.com

Till now there isn't still a free flashing program (pleaseeeeeeeeeee correct me), but kulankendi costs the least, with like 8 euro, which is about RM40 i guess, but it's worth the update for me, cause it prevents any BROD bug and way faster media functions.
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QUOTE(Otoyama88 @ Apr 30 2008, 12:24 PM)
how to upgrade it? mind to explain it? notworthy.gif
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God dammit.. My phone just BROD on me. Curse you SE!
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QUOTE(SonicSpyro @ Apr 30 2008, 01:32 PM)
God dammit.. My phone just BROD on me. Curse you SE!
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This really a good timing to let 3rd party flash software a big time to earn $$.... sweat.gif
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Isn't there any free solution to fix this?
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QUOTE(teikwing @ Apr 30 2008, 02:25 AM)
well, N76 is a Symbian phone while K850 uses the traditional SE platform. K850 has flash themes, xenon flash, touch-sensitive keys, new file browser interface etc.

the only thing i see special about N76 is the speaker as its sound is more bassy & loud. keypad is RAZR-wannabe type & doesn't look nice at all.

the main feature of K850i is its camera as its Cyber-shot branded. for sure you gotta take note of this feature when comparing. smile.gif

either u take N76 for stylish flip phone with less features & cheaper by around 200 bucks + Symbian & normal 2.0MP camera or

K850i with 5.0MP AF camera with xenon flash, touch-sensitive keys & SE interface.
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Wow, i really appreciate that my friend.
*Rush off to trade my K850 with a black-skinned N76*
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QUOTE(SonicSpyro @ Apr 30 2008, 01:32 PM)
God dammit.. My phone just BROD on me. Curse you SE!
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Thats what I've been ranting about.. yet people are taken in and wanna buy this "wonderful" model.
Comes with a "curse"!
I'm still without a new phone..err..my 4 year old phone that is.
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QUOTE(bsl555 @ Apr 30 2008, 03:06 PM)
Thats what I've been ranting about.. yet people are taken in and wanna buy this "wonderful" model.
Comes with a "curse"!
I'm still without a new phone..err..my 4 year old phone that is.
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ppl keep buying tis phone coz it's named the highest end cybershot phone se has to offer for the time being... sweat.gif
but it guess it's just becoz many malaysians r still rich and can afford to use a buggy phone as long as it shows off his / her status... it's just like BMW being problematic while Toyotas are proven to be more reliable... but why are there still soooooooo many BMWs on the road? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(iRonTech @ Apr 28 2008, 11:07 AM)
notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif

ya, K850i's camera operation is little bit different if compare w K800/810(most easier way).
notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif couple fon?  biggrin.gif
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i oso hope it is.. but so pity no girl like me haha
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QUOTE(iRonTech @ Apr 29 2008, 08:38 PM)
use kkclient flash it (euro 8) biggrin.gif
my Quicksilver no hang/minor problem  laugh.gif
XS still N/A for CID53, A2/100, & DB3150  biggrin.gif
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hmmm~~
i dun understand wat is BROD problem~
wat its mean?


Added on April 30, 2008, 9:49 pm
QUOTE(carbon14 @ Apr 29 2008, 11:13 PM)
Problems? Right I shall tell you some, but the users here should be more familiar with it.

1. Dust getting inside the camera lens
2. Unable to be hacked yet, modding acoustics and all.
3. Touch Softkeys doesn't activate sometimes
4. Picture quality...Well you be the judge for yourself  smile.gif

Why do i know this? I researched the K850, I was battling with two phones to purchase. The K850 and the P1i,in the end it was the P1i  blush.gif
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thn should i wait for the se c902?
its nearly perfect~

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The feedback for 4gb micro sd are.. It performs exactly like m2 does, and i found that when i transfer the files from my pc to the micro sd, the speed is more or less compared with my previous m2 card (2.3gb at roughly 25mins transfer time) rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(Otoyama88 @ Apr 30 2008, 11:08 AM)
i was thinking to buy this phone
what i see in gsmarena review.. compared to n95, k850 a bit blur..
is it true? hmm.gif  notworthy.gif
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The N95 does more post image compressing and making the photos lose more detail. If you take a look at the N73ME photos, you can see very unnatural and overexposed colours. Not being a SE fan or Nokia-hater here, I think Nokia has to brush up on its image processing algorithms.

BROD - Blue R*** Of Death blink.gif ?
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QUOTE(carbon14 @ Apr 30 2008, 11:43 PM)
The N95 does more post image compressing and making the photos lose more detail. If you take a look at the N73ME photos, you can see very unnatural and overexposed colours. Not being a SE fan or Nokia-hater here, I think Nokia has to brush up on its image processing algorithms.
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Was just playing around with someone's N82 and I'm initially impressed the camera is better hands down at highest zoom. K850 looses out in this extreme and fuzzy pictures not worth keeping.
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QUOTE(carbon14 @ Apr 30 2008, 11:43 PM)
The N95 does more post image compressing and making the photos lose more detail. If you take a look at the N73ME photos, you can see very unnatural and overexposed colours. Not being a SE fan or Nokia-hater here, I think Nokia has to brush up on its image processing algorithms.

BROD - Blue R*** Of Death blink.gif ?
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Blue Ring Of Death i guess.. The blue ring around the camera..
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N82's Xenon flash + Carl Zeiss lens camera certainly wins K850i and even N95! ^^
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QUOTE(Redundant @ May 1 2008, 12:07 AM)
N82's Xenon flash + Carl Zeiss lens camera certainly wins K850i and even N95! ^^
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K850 also have Xenon flash..but accidently have your finger in front = ZERO flash + dark picture.
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QUOTE(Redundant @ May 1 2008, 12:07 AM)
N82's Xenon flash + Carl Zeiss lens camera certainly wins K850i and even N95! ^^
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Dude, it always depends.. I confess that n82 wins in major, but then k850 also wins in some perspect.

Time to share some pics tongue.gif

All shot by my k850 flex.gif

Nothing to do when waiting someone at LCCT airport
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QUOTE(bsl555 @ May 1 2008, 12:09 AM)
K850 also have Xenon flash..but accidently have your finger in front = ZERO flash + dark picture.
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N82's Xenon flash is larger when compared with K850i's... and it surely beats N95's LED flash... seems like N96 is coming out with LED too doh.gif
So i guess for the time being, best 5MP phone shud b N82 and samsung's G800
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so conclusion is : if very care about photo,then choose n82 instead of k850?
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QUOTE(xk2 @ May 1 2008, 12:49 AM)
so conclusion is : if  very care about photo,then choose n82 instead of k850?
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just my oppinion, N82 has better image quality due to its bigger carl zeiss lens. it gives better colours and produces less noise when compared to k850i;
k850i on the other hand has the cybershot branding, which means it has a better camera user interface and it's easier to operate the diff settings for diff conditions. for example, u can easily switch between presets of twilight scenery, protrait, daylight scenery or protait modes, snapping document pictures and etc with a push of a shortcut key icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(edkiasu @ May 1 2008, 12:33 AM)
Dude, it always depends.. I confess that n82 wins in major, but then k850 also wins in some perspect.

Time to share some pics  tongue.gif

All shot by my k850  flex.gif

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thumbup.gif very nice macro shooting


Added on May 1, 2008, 10:42 amK850i Food Photography


Added on May 1, 2008, 10:42 amK850i Food Photography
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QUOTE(iRonTech @ May 1 2008, 01:09 AM)
thumbup.gif very nice macro shooting


Added on May 1, 2008, 10:42 amK850i Food Photography


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yaya...i like the flower...CLEAR!
so the conclusion is...N82 win K850 win N95???
the N95 is nice with its design...and k850 not bad too...but if comparing it with camera?
is it K850 more good than N95?SE always better image than NK in the previous...but i dont know how abt N95 and K850..is it like that?
K850 is 3.5G?

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Hi, I have a problem while talking over phone..always accidentally my face touch the touchscreen. Do K850i have a feature that lock the screen while talking over phone like iPhone ?
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QUOTE(skylancer @ May 1 2008, 02:23 PM)
so the conclusion is...N82 win K850 win N95???
K850 is 3.5G?
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Its not 3.5G! But thats not important, like for Digi subscribers..NO 3G services. Activating 3G feature will decrease battery time. I always off th 3G, only on GSM.
N82 costs some RM200+ more than K850i. Shoppers are always critical of the cost and very typical.

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Its not 3.5G! But thats not important, like for Digi subscribers..NO 3G services. Activating 3G feature will decrease battery time. I always off th 3G, only on GSM.
N82 costs some RM200+ more than K850i. Shoppers are always critical of the cost and very typical.
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K850i max transfer rate is rated at 3.6Mbps, normal 3G is only 384Kbps right?
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QUOTE(bsl555 @ May 1 2008, 03:10 PM)
Its not 3.5G! But thats not important, like for Digi subscribers..NO 3G services. Activating 3G feature will decrease battery time. I always off th 3G, only on GSM.
N82 costs some RM200+ more than K850i. Shoppers are always critical of the cost and very typical.
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Ohh...that means K850i more worth to buy than that?
But Nokia phone always expensive than SE eventhough their fucntion and spec are similar or same.See the N95 or N82,its almost over 2k or 2.5k when launch but SE most exp also abt 2k or below.


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K850i max transfer rate is rated at 3.6Mbps, normal 3G is only 384Kbps right?
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part of K850i beauty part is support HSDPA/850/900/1800/1900 (edge/3g/3.5g)
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QUOTE(skylancer @ May 1 2008, 02:23 PM)
yaya...i like the flower...CLEAR!
so the conclusion is...N82 win K850 win N95???
the N95 is nice with its design...and k850 not bad too...but if comparing it with camera?
is it K850 more good than N95?SE always better image than NK in the previous...but i dont know how abt N95 and K850..is it like that?
K850 is 3.5G?
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Thanks smile.gif

Different phones produces different picture quality in different perspect. Some pics n82 produced better quality than others or vice-versa.

K850 supports HSDPA which ppl calls 3.5g thumbup.gif

QUOTE(taukey @ May 1 2008, 02:53 PM)
Hi, I have a problem while talking over phone..always accidentally my face touch the touchscreen. Do K850i have a feature that lock the screen while talking over phone like iPhone ?
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Sorry to say that, no.. But even ur face touches the softkeys, it will never affect ur calls. So u do not need to "lock the screen" (P/S: Its not touch screen bro, it just a softkey)

QUOTE(mumeichan @ May 1 2008, 05:37 PM)
K850i max transfer rate is rated at 3.6Mbps, normal 3G is only 384Kbps right?
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QUOTE(skylancer @ May 1 2008, 06:16 PM)
Ohh...that means K850i more worth to buy than that?
But Nokia phone always expensive than SE eventhough their fucntion and spec are similar or same.See the N95 or N82,its almost over 2k or 2.5k when launch but SE most exp also abt 2k or below.


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yaya...why K850i is only called 3G?
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Bro, NK and SE never similar or same in terms of function and spec.. NK's phones always hit "smarter price" because of its smart phones. NK offers a lot more features to users than SE does. But i love the simple interface of SE, features pre-loaded in it are sufficient for me thumbup.gif
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I planning to buy SE K850i. Need to know any problem using micro SD as memory card?

Got Penang seller offer me AP set RM1130, but no warranty for LCD screen. It is worth it?

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I planning to buy SE K850i. Need to know any problem using micro SD as memory card?

Got Penang seller offer me AP set RM1130, but no warranty for LCD screen. It is worth it?

Thanks~!  notworthy.gif
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totally no difference if u use micro sd compare to m2 in my own experience...

ermm, itz depend on u whether u wanna pay a lil bit more for the warranty anot... jus make sure itz a trustable ap company(itz better if itz a 1st tier ap company) icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(2015315 @ May 1 2008, 09:53 PM)
I planning to buy SE K850i. Need to know any problem using micro SD as memory card?

Got Penang seller offer me AP set RM1130, but no warranty for LCD screen. It is worth it?

Thanks~!  notworthy.gif
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dangerous if no warranty for lcd...
SE phone prices always drop faster than NK~
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QUOTE(illegaldragon87 @ May 1 2008, 10:02 PM)
totally no difference if u use micro sd compare to m2 in my own experience...

ermm, itz depend on u whether u wanna pay a lil bit more for the warranty anot... jus make sure itz a trustable ap company(itz better if itz a 1st tier ap company)  icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(skylancer @ May 1 2008, 10:07 PM)
dangerous if no warranty for lcd...
SE phone prices always drop faster than NK~
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Thanks for all the reply. notworthy.gif So far SE LCD screen got any problem? Very New to SE. Using Nokia for 10 yrs. Planning to switch to SE. So, 多多指教. notworthy.gif

Any Penang user here? Can intro some seller that can provide LCD warranty? tongue.gif

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QUOTE(2015315 @ May 1 2008, 10:14 PM)
Thanks for all the reply.  notworthy.gif  So far SE LCD screen got any problem? Very New to SE. Using Nokia for 10 yrs. Planning to switch to SE. So, 多多指教. notworthy.gif

Any Penang user here? Can intro some seller that can provide LCD warranty? tongue.gif
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IMHO, better to get those wit lcd warranty... at least u no need to worry abt anything... as k850 has softkey at the screen, so if the softkey got prob, u can claim warranty... icon_rolleyes.gif
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The softkey under LCD warranty arr? Wala... Like that really need to get LCD warranty. Or maybe top up to get Ori. tongue.gif
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The softkey under LCD warranty arr? Wala... Like that really need to get LCD warranty. Or maybe top up to get Ori. tongue.gif
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The softkey under LCD warranty arr? Wala... Like that really need to get LCD warranty. Or maybe top up to get Ori. tongue.gif
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if u wanna get ori, can get from a seller in lyn... he is selling for rm12xx oni... quite cheap for an ori set...
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in my place k850i nw is around 1.6 k
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quicksilver black how much now ? will expensive than normal green and blue ?
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RM12xx is a good price. Will go check~! tongue.gif
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quicksilver black how much now ? will expensive than normal green and blue ?
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I planning to buy SE K850i. Need to know any problem using micro SD as memory card?

Got Penang seller offer me AP set RM1130, but no warranty for LCD screen. It is worth it?

Thanks~!  notworthy.gif
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just slightly laggin on micro SD if compare to M2

blink.gif nowsaday some AP did provide LCD warranty up to 12 months while handset 18 months..yet ur pricing just very normal.
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QUOTE(illegaldragon87 @ May 1 2008, 11:04 PM)
if i not mistaken, quicksilver black is oni available for ori oni currently... wanna get a black color 1 aso... haha...  laugh.gif
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then ori cost how much ? will be around 12xx as u said jus now oso?  brows.gif
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if u wanna get ori, can get from a seller in lyn... he is selling for rm12xx oni... quite cheap for an ori set...
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Opsss...ori 12xx but ap also 12xx now?
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QUOTE(iRonTech @ May 1 2008, 11:06 PM)
just slightly laggin on micro SD if compare to M2

blink.gif nowsaday some AP did provide LCD warranty up to 12 months while handset 18 months..yet ur pricing just very normal.
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Not really agree with u.. Been switched my 2gb m2 to 4gb micro sd, no different at all.. No such thing as laggy detected...

QUOTE(skylancer @ May 2 2008, 12:13 AM)
Opsss...ori 12xx but ap also 12xx now?
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I've no idea where this seller selling for such cheap.. As i know, all had been sold out, that means, currently no more 12XX for ori set in lyn. If u get from shop, all surely above 14XX.
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QUOTE(edkiasu @ May 2 2008, 12:34 AM)
Not really agree with u.. Been switched my 2gb m2 to 4gb micro sd, no different at all.. No such thing as laggy detected...
I've no idea where this seller selling for such cheap.. As i know, all had been sold out, that means, currently no more 12XX for ori set in lyn. If u get from shop, all surely above 14XX.
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ya... i aso feel the same using micro sd... thumbup.gif

was thinking to find him to get the black color if he got since his price is nice for ori... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(edkiasu @ May 2 2008, 12:34 AM)
I've no idea where this seller selling for such cheap.. As i know, all had been sold out, that means, currently no more 12XX for ori set in lyn. If u get from shop, all surely above 14XX.
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now ap is only 11xx...so worth to buy,good function and spec and CyberShot rclxms.gif
Can fight with other 5MP phone on the market now flex.gif
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Not really agree with u.. Been switched my 2gb m2 to 4gb micro sd, no different at all.. No such thing as laggy detected...
I've no idea where this seller selling for such cheap.. As i know, all had been sold out, that means, currently no more 12XX for ori set in lyn. If u get from shop, all surely above 14XX.
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sweat.gif mine is very normal without any class 2/4/6/8 old 2gb micro sd

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QUOTE(iRonTech @ May 2 2008, 08:10 AM)
sweat.gif mine is very normal any class 2/4/6/8 old 2gb micro sd
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how to shot pictures using K850i perfectly?

me shot the pictures in light place but doesn;t look what i want (a bit dark) lol

need some opinions from experts of K850.. notworthy.gif

btw.. add me Otoyama88-K850 velvet blue-rm1160 apset biggrin.gif

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how to shot pictures using K850i perfectly?

me shot the pictures in light place but doesn;t look what i want (a bit dark) lol

need some opinions from experts of K850.. notworthy.gif

btw.. add me Otoyama88-K850 velvet blue-rm1160 apset biggrin.gif
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macro mode, its much better than k800
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QUOTE(Otoyama88 @ May 2 2008, 09:12 AM)
how to shot pictures using K850i perfectly?

me shot the pictures in light place but doesn;t look what i want (a bit dark) lol

need some opinions from experts of K850.. notworthy.gif

btw.. add me Otoyama88-K850 velvet blue-rm1160 apset biggrin.gif
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Take a few sample shots of the scene you want to shoot, resize to 640x480 and post it here. Then we can see what might work for the pic. There is no one rule that works for all. Kind of subjective, you might want an effect that we might not want. One of the reasons I choose K850i is because it allows greater manual control over the camera settings, most importantly, ISO and AE Bias.
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now ap is only 11xx...so worth to buy,good function and spec and CyberShot rclxms.gif
Can fight with other 5MP phone on the market now flex.gif
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ya... the cam consider ok... but jus too bad tat the video lose to n95 n n82... cry.gif
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ya... the cam consider ok... but jus too bad tat the video lose to n95 n n82...  cry.gif
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hey guys,k850 only has 262k screen right? will it looks ok if compare with nokia 's 16 million?
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QUOTE(xk2 @ May 2 2008, 11:03 AM)
hey guys,k850 only has 262k screen right? will it looks ok if compare with nokia 's 16 million?
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but i can really see the diffeent between K810 's screen and Nokia n81 screen,the 16 million really impressive.


p/s: i think SE 262k if compare with Motorola 262k ,SE still lose
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QUOTE(xk2 @ May 2 2008, 11:15 AM)
but i can really see the diffeent between K810 's screen and Nokia n81 screen,the 16 million really impressive.
p/s: i think SE 262k if compare with Motorola 262k ,SE still lose
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BOLD : Nah, ur eyes got problem i suppose, i played with my class mate's v6maxx everyday, i dont find the LCD anything better than k850. Except for v8/v9, not yet compare before.

As for k810 compared with n81 statement, dude, this is k850 thread.. If u say u can really see the difference between k850 and n81 's screen (i mean huge difference in terms of colors), then i guess u have a pair of "super eyes". Because i cant really found any differences although i using both of them everyday. Except for the different technology by n81 LCD and k850 LCD.

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u langsung duno wat i am talking about,i never see k850 screen,so i duno,tats why i ask here if k850's 262k compare to nokia's 16million will how,then due to i never see k850's screen,so i take k810 as my example,i am not saying k850's 262k no good,jus i never see,so i wan know,if u take v6maxx to compare with k850,,sure v6 will lose la,and jus now i am taking k810's 262k to compare with motorola E2..

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Guys.. any of you have BROD problems and go back to claim warranty? How and what your h/p shop do huh? I'm talking about AP set here.. Mine i try to cliam for warranty, until third week liaw still no further news cry.gif I ask the h/p shop, they just say already sent for warranty.. if come back will contact me.. rclxub.gif Actually how long to claim for this one??? icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(edkiasu @ May 2 2008, 11:32 AM)
BOLD : Nah, ur eyes got problem i suppose, i played with my class mate's v6maxx everyday, i dont find the LCD anything better than k850. Except for v8/v9, not yet compare before.

As for k810 compared with n81 statement, dude, this is k850 thread.. If u say u can really see the difference between k850 and n81 's screen (i mean huge difference in terms of colors), then i guess u have a pair of "super eyes". Because i cant really found any differences although i using both of them everyday. Except for the different technology by n81 LCD and k850 LCD.
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Guys.. any of you have BROD problems and go back to claim warranty? How and what your h/p shop do huh? I'm talking about AP set here.. Mine i try to cliam for warranty, until third week liaw still no further news cry.gif  I ask the h/p shop, they just say already sent for warranty.. if come back will contact me.. rclxub.gif  Actually how long to claim for this one??? icon_question.gif
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seriously most people are unable to see the difference between 262k & 16M colors. i've tested K850i & 6120c. Nokia's screen just might be a lil bit brigher. other than that, barely can see any difference.

is BROD a software or hardware related problem? my previous burnt IC with K770i is settled within two weeks while touch-sensitive keys problem with K850i is settled within 3 weeks. guess you gotta rush them sometimes or they will take things lightly. what i know is warranty takes time but most problem can be settled within 1 month max unless it's a very serious problem. usually AP warranty is like this : 1 week checking & diagnose, 1 week spare parts ordering (if not readily available), 1 week repair & service. smile.gif

have experiences with Telstra, Pacific & Nanyang Choice. their services are quite okay. not sure about other companies though.
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QUOTE(teikwing @ May 2 2008, 12:07 PM)
seriously most people are unable to see the difference between 262k & 16M colors. i've tested K850i & 6120c. Nokia's screen just might be a lil bit brigher. other than that, barely can see any difference.

is BROD a software or hardware related problem? my previous burnt IC with K770i is settled within two weeks while touch-sensitive keys problem with K850i is settled within 3 weeks. guess you gotta rush them sometimes or they will take things lightly. what i know is warranty takes time but most problem can be settled within 1 month max unless it's a very serious problem. usually AP warranty is like this : 1 week checking & diagnose, 1 week spare parts ordering (if not readily available), 1 week repair & service. smile.gif

have experiences with Telstra, Pacific & Nanyang Choice. their services are quite okay. not sure about other companies though.
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hmm.gif most problematic K850i from ap set?
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QUOTE(iRonTech @ May 2 2008, 12:28 PM)
hmm.gif most problematic K850i from ap set?
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QUOTE(teikwing @ May 2 2008, 12:34 PM)
not sure but my K850i's touch-sensitive key went haywire after 1 month of usage. kinda disappointed as it's still so new.
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ur salty pig hands touch too much is it? laugh.gif
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i noticed there r some dust inside the LED's glass... anyone of u hav tis issue? rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(teikwing @ May 2 2008, 12:34 PM)
not sure but my K850i's touch-sensitive key went haywire after 1 month of usage. kinda disappointed as it's still so new.
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means the touch-sensitive key for k850i not good? actually i considering to change my phone to k850i. but worry the touch screen have alot of problem since so many ppl complain about k850i touch screen. any way to improve or overcome this problem?
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QUOTE(mumeichan @ May 2 2008, 10:09 AM)
Take a few sample shots of the scene you want to shoot, resize to 640x480 and post it here. Then we can see what might work for the pic. There is no one rule that works for all. Kind of subjective, you might want an effect that we might not want. One of the reasons I choose K850i is because it allows greater manual control over the camera settings, most importantly, ISO and AE Bias.
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But i saw few magazine said that K850 camera are lose and not very good comparing with N95 or N82.
But i saw the picture posted at last few post...it is very nice and not bad as write by the magazine.
So is it the camera really not good?Or its need the skill when take a shot?
And i also heard that K series in K850 camera not good than the previous 1 like K810 or 800.
p/s:this not my opinion...juz looking from magazine only~smile.gif


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QUOTE(illegaldragon87 @ May 2 2008, 10:25 AM)
ya... the cam consider ok... but jus too bad tat the video lose to n95 n n82...  cry.gif
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Ya..so i am getting to buy it because of the price..before that want to buy k810 but after saw the price comparing with K850,so i choose K850~
I also see the last post said the soft key will getting problem?what problem with it?

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its nice if u look without compare wif pict taken by N95.

but when u see pict taken by N95 n K850, then u will realize tat K850 abit lose from N95 lor.


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QUOTE(Clareen @ May 2 2008, 02:25 PM)
means the touch-sensitive key for k850i not good? actually i considering to change my phone to k850i. but worry the touch screen have alot of problem since so many ppl complain about k850i touch screen. any way to improve or overcome this problem?
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the touch screen is ok when u get used to it, just need to tap it lightly with the end of the finger tips
pressing hard or leaving ur finger on the touch panels wont do any good, when there's no response, just lift up ur finger and tap again... nod.gif

wow, clareen is also joining the k850i club! cool.gif
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QUOTE(teikwing @ May 2 2008, 10:50 AM)
SE phones always have low-FPS recording quality. hope they will be able to improve in next batches of new phones. it's a disappointment when you can have such good camera but only records low quality video.
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k850i records at QVGA, 340x280 at 30fps. The video quality is comparable to Nokia phone expect that Nokia can record up to VGA.

As for the screen, I haven't got a chance to compare it with N82 or N95, but it certainly beats n80 and n73 hands down. Even k800 beats N80 and n73. Legibility under sunlight is great, but a few lower end Nokia's do better in this aspect. Nokia is perfected their sunlight legibility on some models I heard. As for viewing angle, my k850i serves me well up to 170 degrees. Go to the shop and see for yourself.

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QUOTE(Clareen @ May 2 2008, 02:25 PM)
means the touch-sensitive key for k850i not good? actually i considering to change my phone to k850i. but worry the touch screen have alot of problem since so many ppl complain about k850i touch screen. any way to improve or overcome this problem?
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QUOTE(mumeichan @ May 2 2008, 07:29 PM)
k850i records at QVGA, 340x280 at 30fps. The video quality is comparable to Nokia phone expect that Nokia can record up to VGA.

As for the screen, I haven't got a chance to compare it with N82 or N95, but it certainly beats n80 and n73 hands down. Even k800 beats N80 and n73. Legibility under sunlight is great, but a few lower end Nokia's do better in this aspect. Nokia is perfected their sunlight legibility on some models I heard. As for viewing angle, my k850i serves me well up to 170 degrees. Go to the shop and see for yourself.
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not sure if other users face the same issue as me. mine gone crazy just after 1 month after bought it, sent for warranty for 3 weeks. might be i'm just being unlucky. sad.gif

K850i can record @ 30fps? that's awesome! coz thought SE phones only record @ 15-20fps. blush.gif
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QUOTE(xk2 @ May 2 2008, 11:47 AM)
u langsung duno wat i am talking about,i never see k850 screen,so i duno,tats why i ask here if k850's 262k compare to nokia's 16million will how,then due to i never see k850's screen,so i take k810 as my example,i am not saying k850's 262k no good,jus i never see,so i wan know,if u take v6maxx to compare with k850,,sure v6 will lose la,and jus now i am taking k810's 262k to compare with motorola E2..
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U're the one who langsung dunno wad u urself talking about. If u never see k850 screen, then u shud just stay away and read our comment, not giving comment. If u wanna say something abt k810, go k810 thread, not here.

P/S: there're difference between k810 and k850's screen.

QUOTE(iRonTech @ May 2 2008, 12:28 PM)
hmm.gif most problematic K850i from ap set?
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Not really, actually AP or Ori are the same thing, just that they difference in terms of warranty and services. So far all my frens using AP set without any problem, oni 1 using ORI set and the camera lens there a little cracked, but already claimed from midland for new camera lens, unbelievable warranty service.. AP? They never gonna serve u with this kinda problem biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Clareen @ May 2 2008, 02:25 PM)
means the touch-sensitive key for k850i not good? actually i considering to change my phone to k850i. but worry the touch screen have alot of problem since so many ppl complain about k850i touch screen. any way to improve or overcome this problem?
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So far among my frens, no one encounter the softkey problem.. It always depends, as for girl's fingers, i think its not a big deal

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QUOTE(iRonTech @ May 2 2008, 12:28 PM)
hmm.gif most problematic K850i from ap set?
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Nope, depends on your luck. I have an AP set, no problem whatsoever.

One thing to note is that most problems for K850i is firmware related. So depends on your luck what firmware you get. I have the firmware for Thailand sets and am pretty happy with it except for the flash sync problem. And I guarantee the flash sync problem is really a sync problem and not that it is weaker than other flashes. If I use the three LED to illuminate a subject and use another camera at high speed to capture the scene it will produce good results. The flash is wayyyyy brighter than the 3 leds so it all boils down to sync and hopefully SE will fix it.

QUOTE(teikwing @ May 2 2008, 08:06 PM)
K850i can record @ 30fps? that's awesome! coz thought SE phones only record @ 15-20fps.  blush.gif
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K850i is the first Cybershot to be able to record at 30fps. Got only a few SE models that can go up to 30 FPS, check gsmarena for specs of each phone.




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QUOTE(xk2 @ May 2 2008, 11:47 AM)
u langsung duno wat i am talking about,i never see k850 screen,so i duno,tats why i ask here if k850's 262k compare to nokia's 16million will how,then due to i never see k850's screen,so i take k810 as my example,i am not saying k850's 262k no good,jus i never see,so i wan know,if u take v6maxx to compare with k850,,sure v6 will lose la,and jus now i am taking k810's 262k to compare with motorola E2..
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E2 has a hell of a screen dude.. iianm its manufactured by sharp
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QUOTE(Clareen @ May 2 2008, 02:25 PM)
means the touch-sensitive key for k850i not good? actually i considering to change my phone to k850i. but worry the touch screen have alot of problem since so many ppl complain about k850i touch screen. any way to improve or overcome this problem?
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wow... pretty clareen thinking of joining k850 club too... tongue.gif den i dun wanna sell my k850 edi.. haha... laugh.gif jus kidding... actually the softkey is ok for me lo... i din really experience any prob... at 1st not really satisfied wit the older firmware but afte upgrading it to latest firm, itz ok to me lo... thumbup.gif
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Any new updates on R1EA037 firmware. Still considering whether to upgrade or not. Most importantly, does it fix the flash sync problem?
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QUOTE(edkiasu @ May 2 2008, 09:35 PM)
U're the one who langsung dunno wad u urself talking about. If u never see k850 screen, then u shud just stay away and read our comment, not giving comment. If u wanna say something abt k810, go k810 thread, not here.

P/S: there're difference between k810 and k850's screen.
Not really, actually AP or Ori are the same thing, just that they difference in terms of warranty and services. So far all my frens using AP set without any problem, oni 1 using ORI set and the camera lens there a little cracked, but already claimed from midland for new camera lens, unbelievable warranty service.. AP? They never gonna serve u with this kinda problem  biggrin.gif
So far among my frens, no one encounter the softkey problem.. It always depends, as for girl's fingers, i think its not a big deal
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QUOTE(mumeichan @ May 2 2008, 09:53 PM)
Nope, depends on your luck. I have an AP set, no problem whatsoever.

One thing to note is that most problems for K850i is firmware related. So depends on your luck what firmware you get. I have the firmware for Thailand sets and am pretty happy with it except for the flash sync problem. And I guarantee the flash sync problem is really a sync problem and not that it is weaker than other flashes. If I use the three LED to illuminate a subject and use another camera at high speed to capture the scene it will produce good results. The flash is wayyyyy brighter than the 3 leds so it all boils down to sync and hopefully SE will fix it.
K850i is the first Cybershot to be able to record at 30fps. Got only a few SE models that can go up to 30 FPS, check gsmarena for specs of each phone.
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QUOTE(Redundant @ May 1 2008, 01:02 AM)
just my oppinion, N82 has better image quality due to its bigger carl zeiss lens. it gives better colours and produces less noise when compared to k850i;
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It is actually strictly speaking, dependent on the sensor size albeit quality too. I was commenting on a photography thread about this Carl-Zeiss lens which Nokia is truly making us believe that they manufacture that pricey branded lens on their MASS PRODUCED camera phones.

Come to think of it, has anyone fallen in for the branding war of Cybershot VS Carl-Zeiss? I don't want to be labelled as a SE fan here but the Carl-Zeiss lens is a well thought countering technique by Nokia. The Cybershot branding that SE established over the years and making buyers say

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The K850 uses Cybershot technology but not Cybershot lens (if not mistaken Cybershot too uses Carl-Zeiss lens on their digital cameras but not on any phones to date) so it's incomparable against phones that uses Carl-Zeiss lenses, so it breaks down to this ;

1. Software against Software
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2. Lens VS Lens

You choose.

p/s : anyone tried taking out their glass protector?
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QUOTE(dragna @ May 2 2008, 11:39 PM)
The K850 uses Cybershot technology but not Cybershot lens (if not mistaken Cybershot too uses Carl-Zeiss lens on their digital cameras but not on  any phones to date) so it's incomparable against phones that uses Carl-Zeiss lenses, so it breaks down to this ;

1. Software against Software
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2. Lens VS Lens

You choose.

p/s : anyone tried taking out their glass protector?
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so means that it is only normal lens on the SE and they can shot out the good picture because of their Cybershot software to cause it?
Then Nokia can have the good picture because of the high quality lens Carl Zeiss?
So this two brand phone also have their advantage for camera by using software(CyberShot)and lens(Carl Ziess)?
If can...can anyone share some pic with shot yourself to comparing between it?(Nokia and SE)

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K850i doesn't use Cybershot technology. There is no such thing as Cybershot technology. Cybershot is just the brand name for Sony's camera. The only similarity SE Cybershot phones share with Sony's Cybershot Camera's are the Best Pic feature. Other than that, focusing, AE metering, color balance, etc etc algorithms are all device specific. Developers may get tips from Sony's Cybershot dept but they certainly need to come out with their own alogrithms simply because the hardware is so different.

Same goes for Carl Zeiss. Carl Zeiss is just a brand. The lens on Nokia phones are of much worse quality compared to Carl Zeiss Lens made for SLR cameras. As far as lens goes, SE used some pretty bad lens on K850i which cause mild purple fringing. Previous SE Cybershots didn't suffer from this. However, Nokia's Carl Zeiss on N73 suffered from mild chromatic abbreviation and lens flare.

Third is sensor. Not much info on the sensors used in Nokia and SE phones so can't make comparison. Noise levels seem similar.

Fourth is image processors. All Nokias suffer from over saturation, enhanced reds, and over noise reduction. SE does quite well in this dept.

Then there are the Camera's internal algorithms that decides exposure, ISO, shutter speed. SE and Nokia does equally well with the exception of N73 which uses a mechanical shutter. Got abit of pro and cons when it comes to capturing moving objects.

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QUOTE(mumeichan @ May 3 2008, 12:15 AM)
K850i doesn't use Cybershot technology. There is no such thing as Cybershot technology. Cybershot is just the brand name for Sony's camera. The only similarity SE Cybershot phones share with Sony's Cybershot Camera's are the Best Pic feature. Other than that, focusing, AE metering, color balance, etc etc algorithms are all device specific. Developers may get tips from Sony's Cybershot dept but they certainly need to come out with their own alogrithms simply because the hardware is so different.

Same goes for Carl Zeiss. Carl Zeiss is just a brand. The lens on Nokia phones are of much worse quality compared to Carl Zeiss Lens made for SLR cameras. As far as lens goes, SE used some pretty bad lens on K850i which cause mild purple fringing. Previous SE Cybershots didn't suffer from this. However, Nokia's Carl Zeiss on N73 suffered from mild chromatic abbreviation and lens flare.

Third is sensor. Not much info on the sensors used in Nokia and SE phones so can't make comparison. Noise levels seem similar.

Fourth is image processors. All Nokias suffer from over saturation, enhanced reds, and over noise reduction. SE does quite well in this dept.

Then there are the Camera's internal algorithms that decides exposure, ISO, shutter speed. SE and Nokia does equally well with the exception of N73 which uses a mechanical shutter. Got abit of pro and cons when it comes to capturing moving objects.
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SE used some pretty bad lens on K850i which cause mild purple fringing. Previous SE Cybershots didn't suffer from this. However, Nokia's Carl Zeiss on N73 suffered from mild chromatic abbreviation and lens flare.
What means of above???I am not pro people so i dont know:)
Pro explaination on it,i like it~...so...the conclusion are which more good?Or depends?

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i think its depends on sensor n lens tat used.
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QUOTE(skylancer @ May 3 2008, 12:40 AM)
SE used some pretty bad lens on K850i which cause mild purple fringing. Previous SE Cybershots didn't suffer from this. However, Nokia's Carl Zeiss on N73 suffered from mild chromatic abbreviation and lens flare.
What means of above???I am not pro people so i dont know:)
Pro explaination on it,i like it~...so...the conclusion are which more good?Or depends?
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Erm, lazy to explain la, wiki up purple fringing lens flare and chromatic abberation. However for lens flare, it depends whether you like it or not. Sometime the lens flare will get in the way of you picture if you don't want it. I-mobile 902 has serious lens flare, the one and only downside of its camera, but I like the lens flare. Looks cool.

In conclusion you wouldn't want chromatic abbreviation nor purple fringing. And which is more good, well you have to snap some pics and decide for yourself. I can't stand the purple fringing in K850i, luckily when I got the new firmware, I think SE tweaked the imaged processing cause I don't see any purple fringing anymore. Some people can live with it. So depends lo.

I'm not so sure which term is right, chromatic abbreviation or aberration.

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Hmm...very thanks brother~Although i also not so understand it...but hope other forumer can understand.

Actually the difference between Nokia and SE like K850 and N95 and N82 will not have the big difference for normal user right?(the photo)
If you dont compare it with pro...its will like similar same right?coz i saw the brother edkiasu posted the photo on last few post,it is really clear and nice~(in my opinion,coz i not the pro people,so i saw it it is very nice and clear)
Sry to ask so many because i would like to get K850 too soon...so i hope i am not buying with unworth~(becoz budget limited) tongue.gif

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QUOTE(skylancer @ May 3 2008, 04:06 AM)
Hmm...very thanks brother~Although i also not so understand it...but hope other forumer can understand.

Actually the difference between Nokia and SE like K850 and N95 and N82 will not have the big difference for normal user right?(the photo)
If you dont compare it with pro...its will like similar same right?coz i saw the brother edkiasu posted the photo on last few post,it is really clear and nice~(in my opinion,coz i not the pro people,so i saw it it is very nice and clear)
Sry to ask so many because i would like to get K850 too soon...so i hope i am not buying with unworth~(becoz budget limited) tongue.gif
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Honestly, k850 is worth to buy. If tight of budget, k810/k800 is another right choise. With modded cam driver, it captures better image compared with k850. I used both phone at the same time before CNY, after that gave away the k810 to my gf tongue.gif

I did a lot of comparison of both of k850 and k810 pictures under same environments, lightening, surroundings, k810 with modded cam driver did better job than my k850 (in most pic, not all). Hopefully there will be some modders that able to hack into k850 and create a better cam driver for k850 soon..
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QUOTE(edkiasu @ May 3 2008, 04:58 AM)
Honestly, k850 is worth to buy. If tight of budget, k810/k800 is another right choise. With modded cam driver, it captures better image compared with k850. I used both phone at the same time before CNY, after that gave away the k810 to my gf  tongue.gif

I did a lot of comparison of both of k850 and k810 pictures under same environments, lightening, surroundings, k810 with modded cam driver did better job than my k850 (in most pic, not all). Hopefully there will be some modders that able to hack into k850 and create a better cam driver for k850 soon..
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Totaly agree. K800 and K810 can produce better images in many situation with a modded cam driver.

QUOTE(skylancer @ May 3 2008, 04:06 AM)
Hmm...very thanks brother~Although i also not so understand it...but hope other forumer can understand.

Actually the difference between Nokia and SE like K850 and N95 and N82 will not have the big difference for normal user right?(the photo)
If you dont compare it with pro...its will like similar same right?coz i saw the brother edkiasu posted the photo on last few post,it is really clear and nice~(in my opinion,coz i not the pro people,so i saw it it is very nice and clear)
Sry to ask so many because i would like to get K850 too soon...so i hope i am not buying with unworth~(becoz budget limited) tongue.gif
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Will not have big difference for normal user is quite subjective. But if you want a whip out point and shoot camera, I think N series will serve you better. Why, cause N series image processor uses high noise reduction. If you zoom up to 100%, then you will notice the picture appears soft and lots of details are lost, but if you just want to store in 1024x768 res, then you won't notice any difference. The good thing about 5mp over 3mp is that 5mp picture will show less noise compared to 3mp if both are resized to 1024x768 simple because the amount of noise is rough the same at 100%, but when resized, for any area of the pic, 5mp pics will have more good dots compared to noise dots when compare with a 3mp pic. N series also makes the picture look more vibrant. But not so natural. In most cases, end users will like it more.

I choose k850i cause it give me more natural colors and when I want to edit it in photoshop it is easier.

If the camera is not your main factor in making the decision, I believe all the 5mp are in about the same league. Not much difference.

If you really don't need the pixels, K810 might be a better choice.
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Thanks a lot for the more professional description on the phone cams, really learned a lot. Besides the lens and firmware, i think it comes down to the skill and use of different settings inside the phone to manage a good picture in either Carl-Zeiss or Cybershot. But to say, from an experience as both users, the noise level for Nokia at night is really bad, with the bluish effects on N73 which i was using, nt sure bout k850i though, still experiencing it through to see.

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wow.. well explanation on brand/lens/algorithm notworthy.gif rclxms.gif

erm...everyone has their own choice, but some they just always like do comparison/declare own is da best, if the product can't reach your requirement ain't it mean to others too biggrin.gif no offense.... but meet up own feeling good, overall usage & budget will do.
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fine lightings, macro, no flash...

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Hi guys, can anyone tell me their CDA code (ori in malaysia) that will enable me to update my phone via SEUS? I'm gonna reflash my phone with kk soon and need the CDA code to continue updating my phone next time, pls and tq everyone.
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Hi guys, can anyone tell me their CDA code (ori in malaysia) that will enable me to update my phone via SEUS? I'm gonna reflash my phone with kk soon and need the CDA code to continue updating my phone next time, pls and tq everyone.
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QUOTE(mumeichan @ May 3 2008, 09:21 AM)
Totaly agree. K800 and K810 can produce better images in many situation with a modded cam driver.
Will not have big difference for normal user is quite subjective. But if you want a whip out point and shoot camera, I think N series will serve you better. Why, cause N series image processor uses high noise reduction. If you zoom up to 100%, then you will notice the picture appears soft and lots of details are lost, but if you just want to store in 1024x768 res, then you won't notice any difference. The good thing about 5mp over 3mp is that 5mp picture will show less noise compared to 3mp if both are resized to 1024x768 simple because the amount of noise is rough the same at 100%, but when resized, for any area of the pic, 5mp pics will have more good dots compared to noise dots when compare with a 3mp pic. N series also makes the picture look more vibrant. But not so natural. In most cases, end users will like it more.

I choose k850i cause it give me more natural colors and when I want to edit it in photoshop it is easier.

If the camera is not your main factor in making the decision, I believe all the 5mp are in about the same league. Not much difference.

If you really don't need the pixels, K810 might be a better choice.
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Ohh...so if the normal K810 or 800 which havent modded also lose to K850 for the image which produce?Its depends on skill to right?But modded cam driver is unofficial?
So after i modded the warranty will void?
Wow...the picture took at last few post really nice...the K850 before mod also can produce such nice picture...if after modded thn will unbelievable~ tongue.gif
THANKS for ALL Profesien to help to so much...nice guyz~ biggrin.gif
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Ohh...so if the normal K810 or 800 which havent modded also lose to K850 for the image which produce?Its depends on skill to right?But modded cam driver is unofficial?
So after i modded the warranty will void?
Wow...the picture took at last few post really nice...the K850 before mod also can produce such nice picture...if after modded thn will unbelievable~ tongue.gif
THANKS for ALL Profesien to help to so much...nice guyz~ biggrin.gif
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modding the cam drivers will definitely void your warranty. u gotta reflash it back to original drivers before sending it back. AFAIK, K850i's driver can't be modded yet. i mean it doesn't need to be modded anyway, it still produce great overall photos. smile.gif
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Just update my phone via KK guys, finally done, tension and stress over a while for the 8 euros >< Media is running smoothly now and finally i'm in rest worrying bout any BROD problems...

P.S. - SUPER THANKS TO IRONTECH for helping out in the flashing process o ^^

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Just update my phone via KK guys, finally done, tension and stress over a while for the 8 euros >< Media is running smoothly now and finally i'm in rest worrying bout any BROD problems...
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The phone has way more potential than it has now, I *sony erricson* my phone.
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The phone has way more potential than it has now, I *sony erricson* my phone.
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Ohh...so if the normal K810 or 800 which havent modded also lose to K850 for the image which produce?Its depends on skill to right?But modded cam driver is unofficial?
So after i modded the warranty will void?
Wow...the picture took at last few post really nice...the K850 before mod also can produce such nice picture...if after modded thn will unbelievable~ tongue.gif
THANKS for ALL Profesien to help to so much...nice guyz~ biggrin.gif
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I haven't really used K810 or k800 before. Just seen pics posted on the net. But the picture quality seems on par with K850. I have used k800's sister model k790 and I can say that picture quality is about the same as k850i. K850i wins in macro, document and daylight pics. But K790 qas very good at night pics both with flash and without. I think K850 still can improve alot on the night photos.

As far as skill goes, it only relates to your photo composition, picture quality wise you can't do much regardless what skill you have. Maybe you can set the ISO and AE for less blurry picture or avoid overexposure, that is about it.

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i hav been used K800 for few months last time, n my fren using K850 now,

based on my wat i hav tried, night pict taken by K800 still better than taken by K850.
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I concur with this statement. And yes Cybershot isn't a technology its a brand. That goes along with Carl-Zeiss too. A branding war and us consumers caught in the crossfire. wink.gif
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Erm, lazy to explain la, wiki up purple fringing lens flare and chromatic abberation. However for lens flare, it depends whether you like it or not. Sometime the lens flare will get in the way of you picture if you don't want it. I-mobile 902 has serious lens flare, the one and only downside of its camera, but I like the lens flare. Looks cool.

In conclusion you wouldn't want chromatic abbreviation nor purple fringing. And which is more good, well you have to snap some pics and decide for yourself. I can't stand the purple fringing in K850i, luckily when I got the new firmware, I think SE tweaked the imaged processing cause I don't see any purple fringing anymore. Some people can live with it. So depends lo.
I'm not so sure which term is right, chromatic abbreviation or aberration.
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The new firmware you mention that is the lastest firmware where can download at the SE official website? smile.gif
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wah... really nice qouted.

But that statement is true at all bcos we cant compare phone cam wif digi cam quality.

if phone manufacturers wan to apply all of tat, of course it will increase their cost n they will lose sell bcos charged customers in high price.







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I concur with this statement. And yes Cybershot isn't a technology its a brand. That goes along with Carl-Zeiss too. A branding war and us consumers caught in the crossfire.  wink.gif
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wah... really nice qouted.

But that statement is true at all bcos we cant  compare phone cam wif digi cam quality.

if phone manufacturers wan to apply all of tat, of course it will increase their cost n they will lose sell bcos charged customers  in high price.
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agrees with it too. many users actually doesn't know that. that's why digital camera always produce nicer photos thought the MP might be the same. there's difference in lens, imaging processor etc.
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agrees with it too. many users actually doesn't know that. that's why digital camera always produce nicer photos thought the MP might be the same. there's difference in lens, imaging processor etc.
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it's also becoz handphones are using the low power consumption CMOS sensors while digicam usually use the better CCD sensors rite?
CCDs are larger in size and weight too =/
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The new firmware you mention that is the lastest firmware where can download at the SE official website? smile.gif
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QUOTE(Redundant @ May 4 2008, 10:22 AM)
it's also becoz handphones are using the low power consumption CMOS sensors while digicam usually use the better CCD sensors rite?
CCDs are larger in size and weight too =/
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Quite true I guess. That is why I-Mobile 902 and 902sh can take such good pics. Both uses CCD sensors and not CMOS.

I don't really think the power consumption is alot more for CCD compared to CMOS. My former I Mobile 902 lasted quite sometime even with heavy picture taking. As for price, I Mobile sets were going for 700+ for a brand new one, that one CCD sensor, even if it was more expensive, it wouldn't have doubled the cost of production. Furthermore, CMOS sensors are used in many scanners and other high tech equipment and produce good results. So I think it is more of an excuse given by manufacturer to justify the components used in their products. If SE phone cams were as good as their normal digicams, then consumers wouldn't buy the digicams as most people don't need the extra megapixels. Manufacturers would rather have people get a SE phone, be happy with the Cybershot brand and hopefully get a Cybershot digicam, double business.
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Yep, the lastest firmware I am talking about is R1EA031 download using SE update utility.
Quite true I guess. That is why I-Mobile 902 and 902sh can take such good pics. Both uses CCD sensors and not CMOS.

I don't really think the power consumption is alot more for CCD compared to CMOS. My former I Mobile 902 lasted quite sometime even with heavy picture taking. As for price, I Mobile sets were going for 700+ for a brand new one, that one CCD sensor, even if it was more expensive, it wouldn't have doubled the cost of production. Furthermore, CMOS sensors are used in many scanners and other high tech equipment and produce good results. So I think it is more of an excuse given by manufacturer to justify the components used in their products.  If SE phone cams were as good as their normal digicams, then consumers wouldn't buy the digicams as most people don't need the extra megapixels. Manufacturers would rather have people get a SE phone, be happy with the Cybershot brand and hopefully get a Cybershot digicam, double business.
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They can, but they wouldn't waste the technology inside handphones, which spoils more easily compared to a digicam, spoil the handphone, and there goes the digicam inside too >< Plus the market selling scheme...
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Guyz...look at this the comparison

COMPARISON



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Guyz...look at this the comparison

COMPARISON
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great review i would say. an extract of the conclusion of the review :

And just in a quick attempt to summarize things, if you want the most universal performer this will surely be the Nokia N95 8GB. With the Nokia N82 you even have a xenon flash and exactly the same camera performance, so you might as well go that way too. Our observations are that the Nokia N82 handles all photo situations as the Nokia N95 and produces the same results.

Then if your top priority is well thought and capable interface you may chose Sony Ericsson K850. It delivers a superior user experience and feels like a real digital camera at times.

If you are into video recordings and macro shots, then your choice should be the LG KU990 Viewty. The widescreen touch screen display also counts as it's a unique feature among the contenders.

And finally if you are looking for the best-bang-for-the-buck and reliable performance you might as well go with the Samsung G600. While it's not a fully-fledged cameraphone, it does have its strong points and we shouldn't also forget that it's the most affordable of the bunch.
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sorry

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take a look here also... (K858 is china version, just like K790 & K800)

http://publish.it168.com/2007/0924/20070924023801.shtml
http://publish.it168.com/2007/0920/20070920000301.shtml
http://publish.it168.com/2007/0921/20070921001901.shtml
http://publish.it168.com/2007/0921/20070921001901.shtml
http://www.pconline.com.cn/mobile/review/0711/1155620_2.html

it was base on previous K850i FW...so to Nk/samsung(i suppose).



ZN5(moto 5MP kodak cam!!) vs K850 vs N82

http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=...5551&p=1&img=1#

p/s: u may need chi-eng translator tongue.gif

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QUOTE(iRonTech @ May 4 2008, 08:57 PM)
it was base on previous K850i FW...so to Nk/samsung(i suppose).
ZN5(moto 5MP kodak cam!!) vs K850 vs N82

http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=...5551&p=1&img=1#

p/s: u may need chi-eng translator tongue.gif
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Hmm...K850 really not saturated in the colour...the photo come out will be like very white~
And the flash shooting really super bad...cant believe that is 5MP CyberShot.
Can anyone share the photo with flash and the photo with people or scenery photo?Want to see is it bad like that~
What is alrdy upgrade and fix with the lastest firmware?
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Hmm...K850 really not saturated in the colour...the photo come out will be like very white~
And the flash shooting really super bad...cant believe that is 5MP CyberShot.
Can anyone share the photo with flash and the photo with people or scenery photo?Want to see is it bad like that~
What is alrdy upgrade and fix with the lastest firmware?
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here's a pic with the flash on in a dark place...
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u can see how well does the flash perform in a dark room...
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but still, it doesnt perform as well as those of a digicam of coz... unsure.gif

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wow...the xenon flash so strong ya rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Redundant @ May 5 2008, 08:22 PM)
here's a pic with the flash on in a dark place...
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My turn tongue.gif

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Auto / ISO 100 / Flash - OFF

user posted image
Auto / ISO 100 / Flash - ON

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Auto / ISO 100 / Flash - Red Eye Reduction

Conclusion : I found that normal flash gets better lighting than Red Eye Reduction (only for those pics i uploaded)
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[/spoiler]

My turn  tongue.gif

user posted image
Auto / ISO 100 / Flash - OFF

user posted image
Auto / ISO 100 / Flash - ON

user posted image
Auto / ISO 100 / Flash - Red Eye Reduction

Conclusion : I found that normal flash gets better lighting than Red Eye Reduction (only for those pics i uploaded)
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This is superb. Can match K800 flash. What firmware are you using? Mine can never get anything close to that.
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QUOTE(edkiasu @ May 5 2008, 09:10 PM)
[/spoiler]

My turn  tongue.gif

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Auto / ISO 100 / Flash - OFF

user posted image
Auto / ISO 100 / Flash - ON

user posted image
Auto / ISO 100 / Flash - Red Eye Reduction

Conclusion : I found that normal flash gets better lighting than Red Eye Reduction (only for those pics i uploaded)
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it's quite a close match to digicams actually. smile.gif
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QUOTE(mumeichan @ May 5 2008, 09:26 PM)
This is superb. Can match K800 flash. What firmware are you using? Mine can never get anything close to that.
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Can match k800 flash huh? As i know, k850's xenon flash is stronger than my k810.. Honestly, my k810 with modded cam driver can do better than this.. If still with me, i will prove it.. But i gave it to my gf already.

Forgot the firmware code, but its the latest one. Refer to 1st post for the latest firmware code. if u using k850, i believe u can do that, try to do it with my setting, auto mode with ISO 100 and auto flash. blush.gif

QUOTE(teikwing @ May 5 2008, 11:08 PM)
it's quite a close match to digicams actually. smile.gif
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For flash-OFF, is a NO NO.. But for flash-ON, erm.. 60-80% of digital camera gua..

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QUOTE(edkiasu @ May 5 2008, 11:34 PM)
Can match k800 flash huh? As i know, k850's xenon flash is stronger than my k810.. Honestly, my k810 with modded cam driver can do better than this.. If still with me, i will prove it.. But i gave it to my gf already.

Forgot the firmware code, but its the latest one. Refer to 1st post for the latest firmware code. if u using k850, i believe u can do that, try to do it with my setting, auto mode with ISO 100 and auto flash.  blush.gif
For flash-OFF, is a NO NO.. But for flash-ON, erm.. 60-80% of digital camera gua..
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This is superb. Can match K800 flash. What firmware are you using? Mine can never get anything close to that.
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i can see ur k850 box on top of ur sub woofer  tongue.gif
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Haha, yeah blush.gif

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Ohh...u post it up your pic with flash to share with us,thn let the people look it and give the comment...see see what they said~
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Waa... wad pic u wan.. so lazy le blink.gif
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my turn my turn!!! rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

without flash
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QUOTE(davidgm16 @ May 6 2008, 01:59 AM)
my turn my turn!!! rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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The noise and over exposure is kinda serious for flash-ON

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my turn my turn!!! rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Don't stand too close to your subjects while using flash, the xenon tends to make your pictures overexposed while in near distance.
To me this picture looks like has been taken under direct sunlight from to top
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a picture taken with my k850... all auto setting... smile.gif

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i think it is worth to hav a k850i..
its price is low compare to other 5 megapixel phones...
hehe.
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a picture taken with my k850... all auto setting...  smile.gif

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Should have some self-defined setting, like lowering the ISO. Auto mode doesnt really look good in this pic.
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Wow...if setting myself sure i don't know which 1 need to set when take the different picture,for me will only use all auto mode~
But i can see that if all by auto mode pic also not bad right?
Even the pic take by using xenon flash will overexposed but if for normal user its no problem and ok for it
Its really worth to buy for the 5MP in the market...cause its cheap~smile.gif rclxms.gif
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Yes, it is a really worth it 5mp phone to get at the moment, compared to it's first launching prices. Camera-wise it's fine for normal daily users that doesn't pick much on it, living with it will eventually teach you the settings itself. On top of that, you're having a really stylish phone which offers performance and the cool-factor at the same time.

Sorry to butt in in the camera chat guys, but my phone has the tendency to restart itself (without password inquiry), and change the theme back to crystal, as it has already 2 times today. I did a total reflash via kk, and a master reset including everything. Is this the problem of my theme? Btw, my reflash happened twice when i was inside my media player. Please and thank you in advance for answering my questions ><
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QUOTE(Ver @ May 6 2008, 06:23 PM)
Yes, it is a really worth it 5mp phone to get at the moment, compared to it's first launching prices. Camera-wise it's fine for normal daily users that doesn't pick much on it, living with it will eventually teach you the settings itself. On top of that, you're having a really stylish phone which offers performance and the cool-factor at the same time.

Sorry to butt in in the camera chat guys, but my phone has the tendency to restart itself (without password inquiry), and change the theme back to crystal, as it has already 2 times today. I did a total reflash via kk, and a master reset including everything. Is this the problem of my theme? Btw, my reflash happened twice when i was inside my media player. Please and thank you in advance for answering my questions ><
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what app/program u've run b4 ur phone restart itself? hmm.gif

(just wanna share w u, my k810 did encounter restart problem when i insert new 2GB M2 card, its resolved after i use k810i format the m2 card )
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The funny thing I encountered with my K850 was an M2 card running fine in K810i, then transfer to K850 it doesn't immediately recognize and ask to format. Very wierd..one of the reasons why I find this phone flawed! Yes!..I tried numerous times and it acts like this.
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Yes, it is a really worth it 5mp phone to get at the moment, compared to it's first launching prices. Camera-wise it's fine for normal daily users that doesn't pick much on it, living with it will eventually teach you the settings itself. On top of that, you're having a really stylish phone which offers performance and the cool-factor at the same time.

Sorry to butt in in the camera chat guys, but my phone has the tendency to restart itself (without password inquiry), and change the theme back to crystal, as it has already 2 times today. I did a total reflash via kk, and a master reset including everything. Is this the problem of my theme? Btw, my reflash happened twice when i was inside my media player. Please and thank you in advance for answering my questions ><
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For previous firmware, this happens to me (restarting itself very seldom, but once disconnected from mass storage mode, it will change back to crystal theme). With latest firmware now, it solve the issue. What firmware u at ur k850 now?

QUOTE(bsl555 @ May 6 2008, 06:35 PM)
The funny thing I encountered with my K850 was an M2 card running fine in K810i, then transfer to K850 it doesn't immediately recognize and ask to format. Very wierd..one of the reasons why I find this phone flawed! Yes!..I tried numerous times and it acts like this.
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I got the same problem when i switch my m2 to my fren's micro sd (from motorola v6), it asked me to format the card. But for m2, never, just plug and play. And for my new 4GB micro sd, also plug and play, no formatting required thumbup.gif
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The funny thing I encountered with my K850 was an M2 card running fine in K810i, then transfer to K850 it doesn't immediately recognize and ask to format. Very wierd..one of the reasons why I find this phone flawed! Yes!..I tried numerous times and it acts like this.
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tats becoz k810 formats the card to FAT file structure while K850 requires FAT32 to support higher capacity. Thus a formatting is needed wink.gif
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I'm on the latest firmware now, will keep track of my phone to see whether it occurs again in the next few days ba .
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for the random reboot issue, try to on/off ur phone at least once per day to clear out the cache memory... esspecially after u've transfered huge loads of stuff from ur pc or u hav previously installed apps / themes =)

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err... can someone explain why i keep getting operation failed whenever i try to acess the applications and the games menu ? sweat.gif
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I'm on the latest firmware now, will keep track of my phone to see whether it occurs again in the next few days ba .
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do update status biggrin.gif

QUOTE(sonic_cd @ May 7 2008, 10:02 AM)
err... can someone explain why i keep getting operation failed whenever i try to acess the applications and the games menu ? sweat.gif
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App corrupt or installed on memory card - card not inside phone
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err... can someone explain why i keep getting operation failed whenever i try to acess the applications and the games menu ? sweat.gif
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bad news sad.gif
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?t...=15#post2176877
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iRonTech,thanks for the info , but does not work sweat.gif


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arghhh.. now i need a trip down to amcorp to solve the problem doh.gif



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Its been a while since i posted here.. anyway the silverish coating on the call and end-call button are started to wear off on its edges.. have any of u guys experiencing this?? sad.gif definitely will sell this phone soon.. waiting for P5 or X1.. probably this will be the shortest time an SE phone i ever used wink.gif


Added on May 7, 2008, 4:44 pmThe only thing i love about this phone is its speaker.. crispy and loud compare to other SE phones i ever had..

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QUOTE(Aishiteru^Suki @ May 7 2008, 04:43 PM)
Its been a while since i posted here.. anyway the silverish coating on the call and end-call button are started to wear off on its edges.. have any of u guys experiencing this??  sad.gif definitely will sell this phone soon.. waiting for P5 or X1.. probably this will be the shortest time an SE phone i ever used  wink.gif


Added on May 7, 2008, 4:44 pmThe only thing i love about this phone is its speaker.. crispy and loud compare to other SE phones i ever had..
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Ohh...the phone really not good?whats wrong with the button?
So anymore weaknesses of this phone?
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QUOTE(Aishiteru^Suki @ May 7 2008, 04:43 PM)
Its been a while since i posted here.. anyway the silverish coating on the call and end-call button are started to wear off on its edges.. have any of u guys experiencing this??  sad.gif definitely will sell this phone soon.. waiting for P5 or X1.. probably this will be the shortest time an SE phone i ever used  wink.gif


Added on May 7, 2008, 4:44 pmThe only thing i love about this phone is its speaker.. crispy and loud compare to other SE phones i ever had..
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ya.... the silver coating will wear off.... therefore, try not to use ur fingernails to press the button... the speaker is really great.... to me, the oni bad thing is the video.... jus wish tat the video is as good as n95/n82.... unsure.gif


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QUOTE(skylancer @ May 7 2008, 06:03 PM)
Ohh...the phone really not good?whats wrong with the button?
So anymore weaknesses of this phone?
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i dun really say tis hp is not good... itz still depends on ur preferences rite?? for example, some ppl think n82 is nice... others think the design kinda ugly... m i rite?? laugh.gif

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Hi guys, really need help here!!!!

I forgotten how have i backup my contacts,messages and everything on my memory card before i send my phone for servicing and they formated my phone.

Now i want to restore back the data i backup in my memory to the phone but i forgotten how to restore it, i can't find it anywhere in the menu!
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QUOTE(illegaldragon87 @ May 7 2008, 07:30 PM)
ya.... the silver coating will wear off.... therefore, try not to use ur fingernails to press the button... the speaker is really great.... to me, the oni bad thing is the video.... jus wish tat the video is as good as n95/n82....  unsure.gif


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i dun really say tis hp is not good... itz still depends on ur preferences rite?? for example, some ppl think n82 is nice... others think the design kinda ugly... m i rite?? laugh.gif
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Nice tips.. won't use my fingernails again.. but a bit too late now since the wear off starts to show already sad.gif thanks anyway.. ya n82 is kinda ugly IMHO.. but the functions are wub.gif wub.gif anyway i'm not a fan of nokia.. been wonder why la SE didn't produce those hi-tech phones in Japan to other parts of the world.. vmad.gif vmad.gif

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QUOTE(- L e O - @ May 7 2008, 08:29 PM)
Hi guys, really need help here!!!!

I forgotten how have i backup my contacts,messages and everything on my memory card before i send my phone for servicing and they formated my phone.

Now i want to restore back the data i backup in my memory to the phone but i forgotten how to restore it, i can't find it anywhere in the menu!
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AFAIK the contacts can be restored in the contacts>>option (make sure new contact is highlighted when you want to proceed with this command)>> advanced>>restore from mem. card . While for the messages, if you choose to save in memory card, it will inform u the "messages cannot be read from mem. card if it is inserted into another device and will be lost if software is upgraded". which means it will be lost since u formated the phone.. correct me if im wrong. hope this helps wink.gif
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People said the photo its dark when using xenon flash to take the photo...i think is people wrong hold it and hold it by not correctly to caused it.
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People said the photo its dark when using xenon flash to take the photo...i think is people wrong hold it and hold it by not correctly to caused it.
Is it?So i think is not the problem for xenon flash K850... hmm.gif

P/S:Sorry for upstairs that 1...wrongly use my sister account to post~smile.gif

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skylancer : im K850 new user..even if im not hold at the backside the pic still dark..
this is my Current sotware version:1200-4404 R1 CA037 071012 <--- this one latest or need to be update?

p/s : sori noob Q here tongue.gif
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QUOTE(general @ May 8 2008, 10:09 AM)
skylancer  : im K850 new user..even if im not hold at the backside the pic still dark..
this is my Current sotware version:1200-4404 R1  CA037 071012 <--- this one latest or need to be update?

p/s : sori noob Q here tongue.gif
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urs is R1CA037, and the current version is R1EA037... so yeap, u can update it if u want to =)
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Hi all the Brother, my k850i this morning suddenly cannot boot up cry.gif

when i push the on button, it will shake and the keypad light and camera len blue light are on,and it just hang it there like that.screen is black and no response at all,cannot switch off,have to take out the battery......

i have tried to restart many times but still the same thing happen, hang with keypad and len light on....

can any one help me???? icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(Redundant @ May 8 2008, 12:49 PM)
urs is R1CA037, and the current version is R1EA037... so yeap, u can update it if u want to =)
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already update it..so current version now is R1EA037 rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
by the way..anyone know where i can download shake theme(like laser precision) when move menu it has some shake/vibrate TQ

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QUOTE(seongmeng @ May 8 2008, 12:08 PM)
Hi all the Brother, my k850i this morning suddenly cannot boot up  cry.gif

when i push the on button, it will shake and the keypad light and camera len blue light are on,and it just hang it there like that.screen is black and no response at all,cannot switch off,have to take out the battery......

i have tried to restart many times but still the same thing happen, hang with keypad and len light on....

can any one help me???? icon_question.gif
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update firmware would help up
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QUOTE(seongmeng @ May 8 2008, 12:08 PM)
Hi all the Brother, my k850i this morning suddenly cannot boot up  cry.gif

when i push the on button, it will shake and the keypad light and camera len blue light are on,and it just hang it there like that.screen is black and no response at all,cannot switch off,have to take out the battery......

i have tried to restart many times but still the same thing happen, hang with keypad and len light on....

can any one help me???? icon_question.gif
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try update the firmware... if still can, itz better to go back to the shop n ask them to change the new 1 for u... since itz jus bought today, i think the seller will change for u IF HE IS GOOD SELLER...


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QUOTE(general @ May 8 2008, 01:08 PM)
already update it..so current version now is R1EA037  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
by the way..anyone know where i can download shake theme(like laser precision) when move menu it has some shake/vibrate TQ
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i did upload the link for shake it theme in V1... mayb u can search thr... laugh.gif

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QUOTE(seongmeng @ May 8 2008, 01:08 PM)
Hi all the Brother, my k850i this morning suddenly cannot boot up  cry.gif

when i push the on button, it will shake and the keypad light and camera len blue light are on,and it just hang it there like that.screen is black and no response at all,cannot switch off,have to take out the battery......

i have tried to restart many times but still the same thing happen, hang with keypad and len light on....

can any one help me???? icon_question.gif
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It happen to me as well. I try to reflash it but it just doesn't detect so only choice is to bring it back to the shop. It costs me 3 weeks time to finally bring back the h/p. Mine is ap.


Added on May 8, 2008, 1:42 pmInitially mine can be update to the latest firmware but after come back from warranty i try to update, it keep on saying mine is the lastest firmware and there's no newer firmware but i know mine is the first edition firmware which is a bit lag..

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already update it..so current version now is R1EA037  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
by the way..anyone know where i can download shake theme(like laser precision) when move menu it has some shake/vibrate TQ
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wacko.gif wacko.gif I tot its built inside R1EA037 version?
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How is the sound quality compare between K850i & W910i? I mean the sound/music come out from the build in "speaker". Thanks~!
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How is the sound quality compare between K850i & W910i? I mean the sound/music come out from the build in "speaker". Thanks~!
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w910 wins k850 a lil... tried to compare my k850 wit my frenz's w910... but i still satisfied wit it as k850 is main on itz cam, but it aso have such an above average sound quality... thumbup.gif
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Oh. This good. Lucky I don't have sensitive ear. tongue.gif Thanks for it.
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Anyone know what are already fix and update in firmware R1EA037 version?
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QUOTE(illegaldragon87 @ May 8 2008, 02:49 PM)
w910 wins k850 a lil... tried to compare my k850 wit my frenz's w910... but i still satisfied wit it as k850 is main on itz cam, but it aso have such an above average sound quality...  thumbup.gif
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Buy the Philips SHE9700 earphones..damn good and powerful bass. I got for a good price whilst at Low Yat Plaza last week. laugh.gif
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Buy the Philips SHE9700 earphones..damn good and powerful bass. I got for a good price whilst at Low Yat Plaza last week.  laugh.gif
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What type of earphone K850i provide? Not same as W series earphone?
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nope... jus those normal earphone... u can try to get the walkman earphone afte u purchase the hp... but remember, BUY ORIGINAL... as itz a huge difference compare to those CAP PALANG type... nod.gif
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QUOTE(illegaldragon87 @ May 8 2008, 05:11 PM)
nope... jus those normal earphone... u can try to get the walkman earphone afte u purchase the hp... but remember, BUY ORIGINAL... as itz a huge difference compare to those CAP PALANG type...  nod.gif
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One have to be careful I'm wary of a lot of fakes earphones of these same brand in Low Yat..true or not up to you all to judge. It can't be THAT cheap right?. One shop even claimed..Oh this one is AP imported.
Just be careful when buying. Capalang brand..a definite No No. smile.gif
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QUOTE(bsl555 @ May 8 2008, 05:25 PM)
One have to be careful I'm wary of a lot of fakes earphones of these same brand in Low Yat..true or not up to you all to judge. It can't be THAT cheap right?. One shop even claimed..Oh this one is AP imported.
Just be careful when buying. Capalang brand..a definite No No.  smile.gif
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ya... therefore buy at SE center is more secure... laugh.gif those said is ap original means not ori...
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Thanks. Will aware when buying. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(bsl555 @ May 8 2008, 05:25 PM)
One have to be careful I'm wary of a lot of fakes earphones of these same brand in Low Yat..true or not up to you all to judge. It can't be THAT cheap right?. One shop even claimed..Oh this one is AP imported.
Just be careful when buying. Capalang brand..a definite No No.  smile.gif
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If HPM-64, its about Rm68-75...

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