That would be running an engineering consultancy and you cannot have an underling do the majority of your work and you sign it off.

The code (at least here in Australia) requires that you directly supervise all work done by a non-PE that is going to be signed off by yourself. Direct supervision meaning continued and sustained guidance with the majority of the technical input. I know of quite a few cases where the state government has prosecuted and resulted in really large fines and termination of title.

Thus there's a real limit to how many projects you can take on. The judge is usually not impressed if you tell them you somehow managed to directly supervise 10 projects at a time.

I suggest you check out Petronas' requirements on oil&gas consultants capability.

why dont you just call them up ( or go visit them ) to get the accurate information on that matter?

YOu know very little on BEM's regulations on engineering design in Malaysia, ya?

All oil&gas consultants require their engineers to be registered with BEM since it is an offence for them to hire engineers who are not registered with BEM. Petronas also insists that the consultants enforce the BEM requirment.

Foreign engineers hired by the consultants will be given a 'temporary permit' by BEM when registered.

I guess if you work in a company which does not carry out engineering design work, the company may or may not impose you to register as engineer with BEM. My friends who work in sales never bother to register with BEM.

This post has been edited by Stamp: Jun 1 2015, 09:09 AM

How many is many ah? What is the limit ah? How much direct supervision is sufficient ah quantify in terms of % of total hours spent on project? How much % then is consider majority of technical input ah? Most of those are qualitative and subject to each person interpretation right? Some work 9 to 5, Mon to Fri, some passionate one work 8 am to 2 am, Mon to Sun, hard to put an exact limit also. Not like some other law like carry more than how many gram of heroin then life sentence those.

As many as the judge thinks. If you want to argue the definition, you better be sure that your personal interpretation is the same as the guy who sits behind that bench with the power to fine you, strip you of your CPEng and in some cases sends you to jail.

Arguing reasonable definition most of the time will get the judge/magistrate more pissed at you

BEM Requirement to be Registered in Electrical Engineering

it is depend on the university syllabus that one had taken in university. from there BEM will evaluate if he/she is required to take the exam in order to be able to register in Electrical discipline.

an ex-colleague was in EE, he was required to self-study a few subjects and took the exam(s) before can be registered as graduate engineer with BEM in "Electrical" discipline.

This post has been edited by ch_teo: Jun 1 2015, 01:49 PM

Lucky I no need worry those things cause no CPEng. Work for people best, worry free .

wut a joke..I work for Oil n Gas consultant..n none of my colleagues has IR..IR is juz a waste..go on with ur IR..if u really think its important..lol

Haters don't really hate you, they hate themselves;because you're a reflection of what they wish to be

they say birds of the same feather flock together?

If the IR has no meaning to you or your O&G consultant company than either you have been underpaid for your service or you just comforting yourself because you cant get one. IR represent something. Read it up. If not people wouldn't work hard for it.

He so rich now? I don't know leh. I can go be tai tai already. Do I get Irs title married to ab Ir?

Im PE (mechanical) in building industry. PE is only useful when you want to be PSP (principal submitting person) to any regulatory bodies/authorities especially when you are in consulting firm or you want to setup your own engineering consulting firm.

I rmbr my friend who worked in O&G industry told me there is really not necessary for them to get Ir as Petronas did not enforce every PSP must be a PE. Im not sure this whether this have been revise or not.

This post has been edited by lalula2: Jun 2 2015, 03:06 PM

yup ur friend are right..people who work outside oil n gas will brag abt IR..unfortunately..IR is nothing for us..

Ir. is a good to filter between qualified & non-qualified engineers. Any failure in design will comeback to the approving Ir.
In Petronas i assume there are technical authority & technical principal to approve certain design, but not sure on the extent of their responsibility.

Personally u would not want anyone whose not being endorsed / certified / interviewed by authorized engineering body (BEM) to approve or design something.

This post has been edited by DuFfz: Dec 9 2015, 10:28 AM

The question is, is ir status really required to progress further up the ladder?

If you are like me, engineer in project management, I don't think I need ir status.

I have 2 overseas PEng license but I won't be using 1 of them ever. Always better to have something than not to have. Still trying my application for Malaysia IR. Its not much of an effort if you doing your job correctly. Going for exams and interviews are just like another day of work, and a much simple one compare to the clients out there.

Same like me. Not required for my work. But just like a driving license, having it doesn't mean u will have to drive. But it's good to have in the even u need to right? I don't get a pay rise getting my Ir. Or even a promotion. Self satisfaction. lol!