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jack~daniel
post Nov 5 2012, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(Stamp @ Oct 18 2012, 10:57 AM)
true, and it works both ways also.


Added on October 18, 2012, 10:59 am

true. and it works both ways too!  tongue.gif


Added on October 18, 2012, 11:00 am

if you plan to be 'sales engineer', then getting a PE is not worth it.


Added on October 18, 2012, 11:02 am

quit the company and move to another one which has engineers with PE.


Added on October 18, 2012, 11:03 am

This CPD business is for PEs only. A graduate engineer does not need to maintain the CPD laa..


Added on October 18, 2012, 11:06 am

you are not quite right. if a civil engineer specialises in structural engineering and work in the oil & gas and he's a PE, the sky is the limit as far as pay is concerned.


Added on October 18, 2012, 11:10 am

in oil and gas consultants, all principal/lead engineers are required to have an Ir. all of them earn 5 figure salaries.

also, the chances of the engineer being promoted to senior engineer are higher if he gets his PE.


Added on October 18, 2012, 11:11 am

Nyet. You are wrong. Refer my posting above.


Added on October 18, 2012, 11:20 am

Basically the interviewers ask questions related to the interviewee's working experience. They would have gone through the reports submitted by the interviewee prior to the interview.

The written exams are pretty straight forward; ethics question is not that mind boggling, one needs common sense to answer it.

I was interviewed by a couple of old PEs who were not in the oil and gas industry. The interview turned out to be like a briefing session from me about offshore platforms development and design to the interviewers.  biggrin.gif
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hi bro..how about technical report?

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post Nov 13 2012, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(Stamp @ Nov 7 2012, 07:49 PM)
what about the technical report? the contents, format? i thought there were instructions on what you were supposed to write in the technical report?
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Got it, one of IEM interview is my friend, i was told him there is no format,
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post Oct 7 2013, 07:26 AM

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QUOTE(gonzalo20 @ May 19 2013, 03:25 PM)
hi. I have some doubt. I just graduate from Bach of Mechanical. But currently, im working with a company who involve in railways overhead cables and signalling & communication design.

can I apply as PE if my degree is mechanical but i do the design for railway signalling (which is more to elctronics/mechatronic)?
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register as graduate Eng with BEM first, thats more important.
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post Feb 7 2014, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(blizice @ Feb 7 2014, 08:48 AM)
Dear all,

From BEM website, it stated that either take exam with BEM or register as corporate member with IEM can gain us a title of IR. May i know which way is better?

If register with IEM need to pay annual fee...
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In order to get Ir status, you must undergo a professional interview, the interview is conducted by IEM, BEM only responsible for Graduate Engineer Registration & Professional Engineer(Ir) registration. You must full fill their criteria to sit for the exam, and the process is very long. You can check with IEM/BEM website for details procedure, make sure you register with BEM first because the experience is count after registration date, registration with IEM is not compulsory, but you are entitled to get discount for seminar and talk for PDP/CPD purpose. Only if you pass for professional interview your membership grade will be upgraded to corporate member, If you are graduate member.
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post Feb 7 2014, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(akidos @ Feb 7 2014, 03:02 PM)
This is not true . Once u get ur Ir here , you can become charted engineer in UK . I believe Sg / India accept our title as well .
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This is misleading, Ir issued in Malaysia only acceptable/recognized in Malaysia, each country has their own professional body to maintain their own professionalism. By the way, I'm professional engineer(IR).
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post Feb 7 2014, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(akidos @ Feb 7 2014, 03:12 PM)
No , you cannot . I didnt read ur post correctly .

Your Ir title should be directly related to the industry u r working for . First u need to register with BEM and obtain a BEM card. ( This is important to show u r from a recognized university - you can throw away ur cert after this )

This is followed by you practicing ur engineering in the field for 2 years and apply to do ur PE . You need to choose ur mentor and literally be his slave until u complete your report.

the report must be endorsed by ur mentor and careful when picking ur mentor . ( I advice you look FOR MALAYS !!! )

I have friends who coudnt sit for the interview because the mentor think he is not matured enough .
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The info given by you were totally absurd!!!...

1)There is no BEM card even for professional Engineer
2) Must have min 3 years experience after registration with the BEM
3) Mentor will be chosen randomly by IEM, you can't choose the mentor or change the mentor unless you have a concrete reason, BEM not involve with examination, training, mentor/mentee scheme.
4) What does it has to do with Malay?

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post Feb 7 2014, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(OhNooy @ Feb 7 2014, 03:28 PM)
I was told during university, to register with BEM once I graduated from engineering discipline, otherwise I cannot hold the job position having the name "Engineer". However, 5 years passed I'm still not registered with BEM.

Registering with BEM really so useful?
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Register with BEM is compulsory according to eng act, you are consider practice illegally if you working as an engineer. To have ENGR title, you have to register with IEM as graduate member.
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post Feb 7 2014, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(OhNooy @ Feb 7 2014, 04:38 PM)
Yes, according to act. However employer don't even bother about this membership other than personal skills.
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Well, it's depend on the position and company policy, for low position may not compulsory, but for high position is compulsory ( Lead Engineer, Resident Engineer)...
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post Feb 7 2014, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(soules83 @ Feb 7 2014, 05:06 PM)
So far my company (MNC) don't bother about it during hiring. If you get the IR status, how do you highlight it in your resume. So far when I talked to any manager personal, IR = construction. Looks like there is a lot of misunderstanding there.

By the way, I'm also very interested to get one IR status...just for self improvement and discovery.
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Like I said, it's depend on position, it's not about MNC or non MNC, you can highlighted your Ir status in your name, and state your membership status with license number in your resume. Being Ir will have a great advantageous!
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post Feb 8 2014, 07:23 AM

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QUOTE(soules83 @ Feb 7 2014, 05:40 PM)
by the way, How much it cost for electrical IR engineer?
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Total around 5k..(Fee+Courses)...
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post Feb 8 2014, 07:26 AM

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QUOTE(gonzalo20 @ Feb 7 2014, 08:20 PM)
so thats mean, i need to quit this industry and change to another industry that more to mechanical work?
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To sit for professional interview, You must have related experience, Holding Engineer status doesn't make you a real engineer(project engineer,costing engineer,etc), candidates must have design experience.
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post Mar 31 2014, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(solite @ Mar 30 2014, 11:40 PM)
May I know if i am registered under Mechatronics discipline, can I practice under an Electrical IR? need advice from all daigor here.
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1. Have you register with BEM?
2. Problem will arise if you register with different discipline. ( BEM very strict), must be from same discipline..anyway you can take the professional interview, even you are pass, you can't register with BEM as professional engineer.
3. If you plan to take IR under electrical, you have to take additional papers related to electrical, so far you can do it in UNITEN.
4.It's not necessary to have approval for mechatronics design or anything related to mechatronics, the main job of professional engineer is to ensure the safety.
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post Apr 9 2014, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(solite @ Apr 8 2014, 11:37 PM)
Ok, thank you very much. So does that mean it is not necessary for mechatronics graduates to get IR? How about IEM? Whats the different between IR and PE?
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It's same.

IEM only responsible for Exam/Course/training.

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post Apr 9 2014, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(nill @ Apr 9 2014, 12:46 AM)
Got link to refer?
Thank you.
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what do you mean?
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post Apr 9 2014, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(nill @ Apr 9 2014, 12:46 AM)
Got link to refer?
Thank you.
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what do you mean?
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post Apr 10 2014, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(nill @ Apr 9 2014, 09:06 PM)
Hoping to get source to read more on the breakdown of the fees BEM charge to apply for Professional Engineer
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Registration as professional engineer not much, - You may refer to BEM website,
CPD course - BEM mandatory course - RM350 per course ( 3 x 350 = rm1050)
- Training course - fees vary considerably (Talk would be much cheaper, 2 hours CPD ,RM10.

If you intend to be P.E, my suggestion, do not go to the course first, you don't know you may fail the interview. So better go after you pass the interview.
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post Apr 10 2014, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(ArenarZ @ Apr 9 2014, 05:00 PM)


I already had 7 years working experience in o&g.

The PE interview is about the interviewee, not about the interviewer. Their interests are to gauge your experience based on your technical reports. I doubt whether they will engage you in a debate on the differences between o&g industry and their industry.

I gather that non o&g interviewers nowadays might have interviewed many prospective PEs from the o&g industry by now, so they might know something about o&g works, unlike during my time. My interviewers were surprised to know that API codes were widely used in o&g industry; obviously they thought that Msians were only knowledgeable in BS codes.  This was in the mid 90's.  biggrin.gif

Good luck in your PE interview next year!  smile.gif
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Owh..Hope after this there is more interviewer in O&G industry..In O&G Except for consultants, I realise that IR is not really matter, as long as u can prove that u have the exp required..But, I do hear some rumours saying client O&G want to implement the IR status..But I doubt it will, as in O&G there's a lot of foreigners and they dont even have the IR status..

Well some companies in O&G do implement IR, but as far of my exp, which is not much..All my lead engneer didnt have IR??
I don't know what you mumbling about....


1) Candidates have to know everything, Interviewers would ask what they know, not about what candidates knows.

2)o&g is industry name.

3) Many things you don't know...LOL

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post Jun 2 2015, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(ArenarZ @ Jun 2 2015, 08:51 AM)
wut a joke..I work for Oil n Gas consultant..n none of my colleagues has IR..IR is juz a waste..go on with ur IR..if u really think its important..lol
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