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Stamp
post Oct 18 2012, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(bysquashy @ Apr 10 2008, 11:25 PM)
The suffix IR derives from the word Ingenieur (Dutch: Master of Science)

IR only has value in Malaysia. If you are out of the country, the value is near to zero.
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true, and it works both ways also.


Added on October 18, 2012, 10:59 am
QUOTE(nicvoo @ Apr 16 2008, 10:27 PM)
jus to add u get ir/pe/engr in msia u cant use in sg or any parts of the world req laws codes in diff countries differ each other
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true. and it works both ways too! tongue.gif


Added on October 18, 2012, 11:00 am
QUOTE(Archiou @ Apr 22 2008, 06:23 PM)
Seems like getting PE is not as good as one might think huh...
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if you plan to be 'sales engineer', then getting a PE is not worth it.


Added on October 18, 2012, 11:02 am
QUOTE(Babablacksheep @ Jul 2 2008, 09:02 PM)
If my company doesn't have any recognized PE (IR), what would be my route to gain a PE status myself?
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quit the company and move to another one which has engineers with PE.


Added on October 18, 2012, 11:03 am
QUOTE(dyso @ Oct 5 2010, 05:23 PM)
I got one simple question and wanted to confirm this.

Below is my situation :

BEM : Reg and approved on JULY 2009
IEM : Reg and approved on JULY 2010

So there 3 years of 50CPD per year av, is accounted from JULY 2010 or JULY 2008?
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This CPD business is for PEs only. A graduate engineer does not need to maintain the CPD laa..


Added on October 18, 2012, 11:06 am
QUOTE(feekle @ Nov 25 2010, 01:39 PM)
U are right dude...no future of being 'high pay' become civil engineer in malaysia..become kuli...the only path is to become contractor & sogok here & there & become rich..
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you are not quite right. if a civil engineer specialises in structural engineering and work in the oil & gas and he's a PE, the sky is the limit as far as pay is concerned.


Added on October 18, 2012, 11:10 am
QUOTE(afosz @ Nov 25 2010, 01:50 PM)
That's the 'side income' or 'undertable envelope' but let's not get too detail about it, shall we ? Although we all know that is the reality.

Ir title is required, especially in civil. You get the respect, and the pay. To earn one is not as easy as it sounds like. Most people I know with Ir are from civil. Once I met an Ir but he's from electrical, I thought "What, electrical can get Ir too ?" and that is the first time I know Ir for engineers for all fields, not particularly on civil, but for civil, it is something like a must get title.
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in oil and gas consultants, all principal/lead engineers are required to have an Ir. all of them earn 5 figure salaries.

also, the chances of the engineer being promoted to senior engineer are higher if he gets his PE.


Added on October 18, 2012, 11:11 am
QUOTE(azamreeves @ May 10 2011, 09:52 AM)
I think most of you can directly call BEM or go to their office at JKR Building Level 17,Jalan Sultan Salahuddin.

I already getting my own PE . If you're working in construction and consultancy industries then it will be important certificate and may add up to your salary.

The rest of industry , I don't think it is relevant,
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Nyet. You are wrong. Refer my posting above.


Added on October 18, 2012, 11:20 am
QUOTE(Hanford @ Sep 7 2012, 10:07 AM)
BEM interview is quiet easy............from my PE engineer's message.
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Basically the interviewers ask questions related to the interviewee's working experience. They would have gone through the reports submitted by the interviewee prior to the interview.

The written exams are pretty straight forward; ethics question is not that mind boggling, one needs common sense to answer it.

I was interviewed by a couple of old PEs who were not in the oil and gas industry. The interview turned out to be like a briefing session from me about offshore platforms development and design to the interviewers. biggrin.gif

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post Nov 3 2012, 09:52 PM

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[quote=ka820720,Nov 3 2012, 05:51 PM]
I was interviewed by a couple of old PEs who were not in the oil and gas industry. The interview turned out to be like a briefing session from me about offshore platforms development and design to the interviewers. biggrin.gif
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May I know how many years xprience do u hav before sit for PE?

I plan to apply next year. Let say if we r from oil & gas industry, are the interviewers not try to differentiate ours with other industry?
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I already had 7 years working experience in o&g.

The PE interview is about the interviewee, not about the interviewer. Their interests are to gauge your experience based on your technical reports. I doubt whether they will engage you in a debate on the differences between o&g industry and their industry.

I gather that non o&g interviewers nowadays might have interviewed many prospective PEs from the o&g industry by now, so they might know something about o&g works, unlike during my time. My interviewers were surprised to know that API codes were widely used in o&g industry; obviously they thought that Msians were only knowledgeable in BS codes. This was in the mid 90's. biggrin.gif

Good luck in your PE interview next year! smile.gif

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QUOTE(jack~daniel @ Nov 5 2012, 11:43 PM)
hi bro..how about technical report?
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what about the technical report? the contents, format? i thought there were instructions on what you were supposed to write in the technical report?

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post Nov 22 2012, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(engrfeez @ Nov 22 2012, 06:04 PM)
Bro, I submit the P1 form to BEM last week. They say dunno the board will sitting to appoint the PE.
Normally how many months they take to gives the tilte (Ir)
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sorry, I've no idea how long BEM will take to give you the Ir. keep checking with them every month.
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QUOTE(ArenarZ @ Apr 10 2014, 05:02 PM)
I work in Oil and Gas industry? n u said i dont know??
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I suggest you check out Petronas' requirements on oil&gas consultants capability.
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QUOTE(wk18 @ Jul 27 2014, 12:51 AM)
Hi all, I've heard that BEM doesn't recognize graduates from electrical & electronic engineering to register as PE of electrical engineer. And you have to take a few exams on pure electrical subjects (which is very troublesome when you are already start working) in order to become eligible to do so. Can someone kind enough to clarify this?
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why dont you just call them up ( or go visit them ) to get the accurate information on that matter?
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QUOTE(bencsn @ Feb 8 2014, 12:23 AM)
Ir. comes easy in Malaysia nowadays. It means very little. It is what you know that matters.
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YOu know very little on BEM's regulations on engineering design in Malaysia, ya?
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QUOTE(OhNooy @ Feb 7 2014, 04:38 PM)
Yes, according to act. However employer don't even bother about this membership other than personal skills.
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All oil&gas consultants require their engineers to be registered with BEM since it is an offence for them to hire engineers who are not registered with BEM. Petronas also insists that the consultants enforce the BEM requirment.

Foreign engineers hired by the consultants will be given a 'temporary permit' by BEM when registered.

I guess if you work in a company which does not carry out engineering design work, the company may or may not impose you to register as engineer with BEM. My friends who work in sales never bother to register with BEM.

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QUOTE(ArenarZ @ Jun 2 2015, 08:51 AM)
wut a joke..I work for Oil n Gas consultant..n none of my colleagues has IR..IR is juz a waste..go on with ur IR..if u really think its important..lol
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they say birds of the same feather flock together? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(JohnJon82 @ Mar 13 2016, 02:19 PM)
If go overseas can still use Ir there? Or overseas PE can use their title like Engr in Malaysia?
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Overseas PE need to get temporary PE from BEM, I think. Approval subject to country of origin.

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QUOTE(HP Computer @ May 29 2023, 01:08 PM)
Any CEng sifu here?

What made you decided to be a CEng?

The annual fee is around Rm 2200+ while IEM membership is only Rm 155? Looking at this fee, i dont know should i just follow IEM pathway and prepare for PE application.
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If you are a practicing engineer in Malaysia, you are better off taking a Malaysian PE. A CEng in Msia can’t sign and approve design and drawings, unlike an Ir. But if you have RM2200 to spare it doesn’t hurt to apply for a CEng besides having an Ir.

 

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