Have a few questions here..

1. Did you regret for going thru form 6??izzit really so tough like others said?

2. Can share some experiences on your study? izzit really a MUST to study everyday for few hours??

3. What subjects should be taken in science stream?

4. The most important thing,can I still apply for uni(such as Utar) if I din do well or sumore even worst failed in stpm??

There's sumore questions but i cant remember,anyway,thx in reply!

1) never regret, it was my happiest school life ever
2) constant study will guarantee good result lol, but to me, its nothing much differ from spm.
3) pa, math T, fizik, chemistry, bio, further math?
4) yes but if u fail certain sub, you might need to retake foundation.

1) nah, never n not as though as u might think of
2) explore ur enthu in studies, never take it as a burden. imagine u get gud results n got into ur desired course in the best Uni, while showin off to ur friends/relatives.

4) STPM is not as tough as some might say. unless u never study at all, most probably u wun fail, but u really have to put in some efforts for gud results.

1. not at all. The only quality education u can get under malaysia education system
2. Since when every one being brain wash that STPM is that hard but it really has its standard. It is harder to score compare with SPM.
3. Still anyone dare to take further maths now????
4. Of course

This post has been edited by chgchksg128: Apr 7 2008, 11:16 PM

If you self-study constantly,you can get better results than others do even if you do not go for extra lessons.

Buy many versions of reference books and use the internet when studying.Elicit as much information as possible from your teachers in school.

Glad to hear that you enjoyed your form 6! nothing much different than spm means?can still having entertainment like watching those hk drama series?
Wow,retake foundation,then it'll be waste of 2 years form 6! What certain subject is it probably?

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Added on April 8, 2008, 2:14 amI din aimed much for good results at least i can get a 'B' 'C' or just Pass,then i'm happy with it.

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Added on April 8, 2008, 2:28 amI've went thru Utar website,the min requirement for STPM candidates is 1 principal pass and with 3 credits in SPM. Does that mean i can still apply for it if i just get a 'Pass' for one single sub but failed the others sub in STPM ?? hehe,some kind of stupid question, but i'm just wanna confirm of it.

Extra lessons mean tuition those things?
Use internet to study??

This post has been edited by arieliss: Apr 8 2008, 02:28 AM

hahaha, like if you wanna take engineering course, but you fail your physics or math, then you wont be able to fulfill the basic entry requirement. And local uni will require you to pass in pendidikan asas.
Hk drama, i think possible also, since i was addicted with online game in my early upper six life

and yea, for me i used the internet to study chemistry


I really enjoyed my form 6 too much lol.

Yes,I meant tuition classes.
I have bought variety of STPM reference books and planned to study by myself.
In all the pre-u courses,you should not merely rely on your school text books but plenty of sources.For example,magazines,other reference books and the internet.

Tution is not that necessary unless you are bloody lazy.
If you have any questions, you can just ask your school teachers.

This post has been edited by darksider: Apr 8 2008, 12:43 PM

as for me, tuition was VERY IMPT! yeah, i would agree to make full use of diff resources arnd us, eg google, reference books... but if u can get a gud tutor, basically an A is not a prob if u follow his lessons consistently.

That's the main reason why good lecturer is of pivotal importance in tertiary education.

You can always have the best teacher to teach you and you can be an atrocious student if you are not hardworking and determined.

Success can only breed success if the students are heedful of his/her advice and teachings.

Every man is the architect of his future.

I would agree with you if you enrol in tuition lessons for language subjects.
For maths , you can always do exercises and get used to it.
For science subjects, you have to wreck your brain to understand every single detail.Once you have understood, you remember.

This post has been edited by darksider: Apr 8 2008, 04:24 PM

1. I dunno if I can say I regretted going to Form 6. The social life in my school was very fun, though the studying was painful.

2. Always focus on your studies from start of Form 6 till the end if you wanna get a good result. Don't neglect it and don't overstudy it too. I overstudied P. Perniagaan paper 1 since lower 6 (until got tired) and got C+ but I got A- for paper 2. Try to take tuition too, especially for maths. It's very important for F6 survival.

3. I can't comment on that since I'm in sastera stream. If anyone's going for sastera, don't take accountings until you're extremely good and you plan to become an accountant in the future. My combination: PA, Ekonomi, PP and Maths.

4. At the very least 4 Cs if you wanna get into public uni, it doesn't matter much if you're going for private uni though. If you end up with one F, everything goes down the drain.

Hmm..then means still can get some relax in form 6!

Hehe,i'm lazy though..so i still need a tuition for it i thk!

So,you are in science stream?

Means if i failed one of my subjects,i cant apply for private uni ??

Private uni still can I think, but public uni definitely cannot. For example UTAR's minimum requirement is 2 principle passes.

This post has been edited by Heroxtus: Apr 8 2008, 09:41 PM

i regret because of NOT TO TAKE FORM 6


zzzz

i want to go USM, but i already take SAM....

haha...not realli..tuition sometimes is neccesary..it jus depends which skul ur in...if ur in those..new skuls wit teachers wit no experience...haih...u can figure it out..haha..teachers who jus bla it out from the reference book n expect u to noe the answer without teaching the topic yet...i those teachers....

School teachers mostly are crap, they are lack of people who are capable for teaching stp.

agreed with u
no need to study so hard
its just like u are taking SPM
but of course the syllabus is harder

i never regret entered Form 6
so hard to leave the school then....

I don't think STPM is any harder than SPM. It all depends on how much affort you put in. As for my case, I went thru Form 6, got 1a, 2b and 1c but din get any place in Local U. Just got a message on the big screen that read: PERMOHONAN ANDA TIDAK BERJAYA. . It really break my heart. I feel so useless at that time, espeacially a lot of my friends whose result are worst than mine are comfortably studying in UPM, UKM, UM and so on..
Don't ever think only those with good result can enter. One of my friend got 3As oso got nothing!. . Now I do part time in UTAR and going to finish end of this year. Although I will grad half a year later than my friends, but I'm a graduate with 4 yrs working experience.

FYI, higher level education is a lot tougher than Form 6! DOn't ever think college and private-U is only for those ppl with bad results, some of the subject are damn hard! Btw, I study Maths T, PA, Chem and Physics but now I'm doing degree in Accounting . The point is, you can do what you want to do as long as you want to do it!

Good Luck!

I took STPM in 2003 and I have never regretted. I took 5 subjects and imagine you have to memorize 10 pages of formulas for physics, let alone understand all the concepts.

Most of my friends ended up in local U and I think they are coping with their studies well. While I chose to come to US although I got an offer from local U. (same major)

But if you are rich enough and do not plan to further your studies in local U, I would suggest you to go for A-Level or foundation studies. One of my friends will be graduating before her 21st birthday.

Just got? means today? I havent got mine how did they message you?

edit:ok misunderstood you

btw was it because the uni you chose were too popular?

This post has been edited by akira de aimbuster: Apr 9 2008, 11:04 AM

1. SOmetimes regret. Somestimes not. But not satisfied with my form 6 though.. But get a lot of experiences and how to survive during form 6. Yeah . its true. No honeymoon during form 6, it IS TOUGH! But you will feel easier when u get into University
2. I lived in hostel. I must say u must balance ur study time and ur play time. A study everyday for few hours is a MUST.
3. Depends on your interest. Pengajian Am and MUET is a must. Do u love Biology? Chemistry? Physics? Math?
4. DOnt too early thinks of failure. Theres a lot of private university who accept those who didnt do well in theirs result. or you can straight find a job. JPA ?

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Added on April 9, 2008, 11:16 amAnd the possibility to enter public U if you got unsatisfying result is really low nowadays. Depends on your chosen course.

This post has been edited by themanwithnoname: Apr 9 2008, 11:16 AM

Bro stpm is great...form 6 is one place u wanna be...no regrets...

Im a student in local uni....comparing between diploma,matriculation and stpm students...STPM students stands out though their results is just 3.2 or 3.3 for stpm, yet in uni...they do better than most matriks students who >3.7...don think too much stpm really trains u up...

good luck

1.Not at all....But it really tough...
2.Mine study is flexible,i will study when i want...(but the most of time is loafing around,so the result.......)?It's also depends on your intelligence..
3.If you good in memorise, is encourage to take Biology,if not is encourage to take physics...This is what my teacher told me...
4.Of course

1. no..it's becomes the best memories now..it's depends on ppl lor

2. very boring if it's a MUST to study everyday...as me, v enjoyed f6 life last time until the teacher oso cant tahan.. hehe!
for PA: paper 1- u need to memories & understand all abt M'sia
paper 2- jst write "Karangan", draw "graph/cart" & analysis it.
for MM : u need to understand & memories the formula & know how to use it lor
for FZ & KM: need to memories the definition/formula & understand all the concept

3.compulsory course: Pengajian Am, Matematik T, Physic / Biologic (u can take either 1 or both) & Chemistry

4. yup..but it's means ur 2 yrs f6 life will be wasted ...

by moment if you take stpm.
All for go.
Obtain highest cgpa, don't think of taking places in local uni.
Your results must be good.

はじめまして！！！

1.) I would never regret being one of the dwindling amount of students who have been striving to preserve some meagre hope within our education system. After all, STPM is the only educational device we can be proud of, not may, not should, but can. This is pathetic. This is like, if you take STPM now, maybe after one decade or two, when our STPM has been fully overshadowed, or maybe dismissed, by the matriculation system, we would be like endangered animals, which are different from another kind of `endangered` species that are `protected`.

Why are you scared of the toughness thing? A pre-U programme should be, in a sense, tough so as to filter off students of lower tiers from those of higher tiers. If you are passionate sufficient for your studies, you are in higher tiers. Still want to know if it is really tough? See below.

2.) I was in a college for almost 2 years before I withdrew and took on STPM as a private candidate. During the college, I took no science subjects (no Physics, no Chemistry, whatsoever). Then, I registered as a science(physics) candidate for STPM 2007. I started my studies during the beginning of 2007. I was on a self-study mode, doing essentially all the studies by myself while having only vague memories of the sciences that I took during SPM in 2003. I took math during college, so STPM math was a breeze. It would still be a breeze for fresh SPM graduates. My studies was not actually a hellish one. I spent all my time studying in front of a tv as I do not like studying like there is no other activities than studying. It was like multitasking, and it was fun. The best combination is to do math while watching tv, because you can really watch the tv content while doing math. For the sciences, I needed to divert more attention on books instead of on tv. Now, studying is not all that boring, is it? In fact, you do not really need to fix your studying hours. That would make studying fearsome. All you need to do is that, regularly tell yourself that `I am not fully prepared yet for STPM` when you are having too many m-m-m-m-monster kill in a day.

3.) I had Physics(A), Chemistry(A), PA(A), Math T(A), and Further Math T(B+, arghh stupid). In science, chemistry, math and pa are must. If you are in science stream, Math T is what you take. Automatically, you have met the requirement for taking Further Math should you want. So, what can you do?

First, physics + FM
Second, physics + Biology
Third, biology + FM (this is weird, but is allowed anyway)
Forth, physics only
Fifth, biology only

That is all, for the packages you can have. Take the third if you are weird enough. Oh yea, the number of subjects is capped at five. Even if you have been born genius, you can only get 5A for STPM, no 16, no 21, no 25, no 100, as in some stupid test.

4.) Dont think about it. If you think too much, you would really end up like that. STPM is not a test in which you would definitely fail if you are not that intelligent, or if your iq is below 120 whatsoever. The only reason of failure in STPM is laziness. STPM is not some iq test. Keep up the spirit, learn and study. Mind you, one of the prevalent reasons of candidates taking STPM is that, STPM is free. Should STPM charge the same fees as A-Level does, I would say a lot of them would switch to A-Level. Now the point is, students take STPM, mostly with a hope of minimizing their costs for tertiary education, for example, through obtaining a scholarship or getting into public universities. If you plan to go into private universities, then you might just go for their foundation studies which are only 1 year. If you did not do well, like having 4Bs something like that, you can most probably secure a place in some dont-know-what majors in public universities, or getting a place in private universities. But if you are nearing failure in STPM, then you most probably have to start from the foundation studies in most private universities. I have some friends who had done exactly that. It was awful.

The lesson is, whatever pre-U you take, be serious. This is the point that decides which way you would go in the future. Dont play play

1) I've no regrets taking form 6. Resolve !!! Yeah, I was resolved to taking form 6 and have no regrets no matter what will happen. That was what I told myself. Its tough, much tougher than SPM. But where's the challenge and fun if everything is so easy ?

2) You do not need to study everyday for a few hours. For lower 6, you can spare one day not studying at all to relax your mind but for the other 6 days you've to study as much as possible.

3) There will be 2 classes for those taking science stream, physics and biology. P.Am, Maths T, Chem will be compulsory.

4) You need 2 passes to secure your place in UTAR. If you can't do that, you can't even get into UTAR.

I respect u for getting 4As 1B as a private candidate.
However, for those who think of taking STPM now. pls make sure you notice that most of the popular courses like engineering, medicine and phamarcy has been dominated by matriculation which is lower standard

1. I met a few great friends in my time in F6, but in general, I hated it. Is it tougher than the A-Levels? Sure as hell it is. Is it impossible? Sure as hell not. The main problem I had with it was not the difficulty, but how uninteresting and intellectually stifling it was (though to be fair the A-Levels are also criticized for that, but to a lesser extent I think). But also consider the major pros, is it RM20,000 cheaper? Hell yes. Do you stand a chance to save up to RM100,000 if you get into a local public uni as opposed to paying your way through a private one? Yes indeed.

2. I think that depends on the individual. A few hours every day is a good habit which will be needed in university anyway. I however, (for my own reasons) didn't really take it seriously, kept a vague idea of the concepts being taught in class, missed nearly 3 months of school in my final year (there were, distractions ) then crammed 3 weeks before the finals by steaming through past year questions. I got 3As and 1B, missing out on Math. Go figure.

And whatever you do, please don't try to cram Math, its the easiest A to get.

This post has been edited by BurgaFlippinMan: Apr 9 2008, 04:52 PM

hmm, i thot the easiest is PA,even my skol (not a famous 1) can get arnd 40 A's out of 100 candidates

In a way, maybe. But I think it has that slightly ambiguous feel where you don't really know whether you nailed it in the head or not. Math however...

Thanks guys!

It seems that most of you din regret for taking form 6! But its toughness is still there...
I'm now still cant make up my mind,am i going to take up this challenge or not...but i have to make decision before the due date of the fees payment for UTAR which is 18th of april..sigh...blaming myself for not being a good decision maker!!

I got a plan like this,i'm going to the Bio tuition tomorrow and have a look on the syllabus,if i thk i cant make it,then i will have to pack up my thgs and head to UTAR to study the foundation in arts which leads to the course i chose(graphic design and multimedia)! though i'm worrying bout my drawing..

But if i thk i'm capable for the Bio subject,then i'll go for form6 and by the same time,apply for A-levels in Stamford which the intakes will be in July! just a backup for me in case i cant handle form6! Haha,such a dumb planning...

Well,i wanna study form6, not becoz i wanna get into local U...that's some reasons why i'm consider bout form6.

1.) I'm not ready yet for those uni social life.

2.) I wanna save money for my parents.(I've got a bro in PJ Utar now,the living expenses is expensive there,and yet i still got a little brother here who is weak in malay and my mum tends to spend more on him for his tuition fees, i dunwan to be another burden for my parents...)

3.) Just wanna stay here with my family for two more years.(kinda big baby huh!)

And just my opinion, I thk i can be much more mature with these two years of TRAINING even my aunt agree with it hah! But my mum seems to thk otherwise, she gv out the 'syarat' for me, said if i wanna study form6 ,then i hv to learn those HIGHER GRADE music!!! WOW! I dun thk i can concentrate on it if i'm studying form 6!!
She knew that i wont accept it and yet still purposely offer this syarat for me...but i know my mum is just thinking for my own good,scared that i will waste my time for form 6 and regret for it later..hehe,that's what the prob i'm facing now..

What if you think you can take on Bio but you can't take on the others? For your information, the other subjects are no easy cakes. You can go to mpm.edu.my to see the elaboration on each subject if you want.





Aren't they contradiction? Have you checked out the fees of A-Level. The exam fees is like in thousands and you need to take two times.

[QUOTE]3.) Just wanna stay here with my family for two more years.(kinda big baby huh!)[/QUOTE[

You should have put it as the 1.). Home sweet home.

But also have to think on your ability...
If you think you able to handle F6,then it's okay to go for it...

[quote=exec,Apr 10 2008, 01:40 PM]
What if you think you can take on Bio but you can't take on the others? For your information, the other subjects are no easy cakes. You can go to mpm.edu.my to see the elaboration on each subject if you want.
Aren't they contradiction? Have you checked out the fees of A-Level. The exam fees is like in thousands and you need to take two times.

[QUOTE]3.) Just wanna stay here with my family for two more years.(kinda big baby huh!)[/QUOTE[

You should have put it as the 1.). Home sweet home.

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thx, will go n have a check on the website!
Nope,the reason why i apply Stamford just becoz i can get full scolarship from it, but i duno does it include the exam fees..

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Added on April 11, 2008, 2:58 am[quote=DragonMebius,Apr 10 2008, 03:44 PM]
But also have to think on your ability...
If you think you able to handle F6,then it's okay to go for it...


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Sigh...that's what i'm worrying about!
Went for the tuition today,hmm...i'm not a decision maker and YUP! I'm sure not one! Normally chapter 1 is easier, so i'm not sure i can make it anot in the future since today the tuitor just ran thru a little bit on chapter 1!
I need to make up my mind before next week comes...cracking my head now!!

This post has been edited by arieliss: Apr 11 2008, 02:58 AM

don't even think about failing. Failing is pretty tough to do, if you think about it. lol

well, taking form6 is difficult but it's worth it. beside you save money (if you want to go to college), your thinking will be more mature... Sometimes ppl will say, 'nah.. form6 is wasting time, i go to A-level i will safe 1 year'... true, but form 6 is to let your learn how to grow-up.. coz you are in form 6, teachers will treat u as an adult, so you need to find a way to get a good result.

well, trust me, you can tell your mom, don't worry, by the time you move out study (either oversea or what), you will automatic become independent, learn how to take care yourself... it's human nature.. lol.. coz it's happen to me either.. i used to be a baby in my family but once i move out from my family, now i need to settle all my things by my own.. good old days had over... hmm.. hahaha...

my f6 was kind of fun. i tot f5 was great until i do f6. well, it helps when im in a physics class wif majority boys who r juz playful as well. ok, it was not juz all play n fun la, but when it comes to study we r serious. u dun need to study 24/7, but u must b consistent n dun slack off too much. pretty much depends on wat kind of grades u want to get. if u want all A, then put more effiort n less play. btw, u might need a lot of divine intervention to get a uni of ur choice after ur stpm.

I reluctantly took up Form 6. I had already made up my mind for Alevels in Inti when my dad told me to try take up Form6 for a couple of months first. I would say studying in form 6 is the best among the other years. The friends and teachers there are great but the whole studying thing is crazy.

You don't really have to study a few hours everyday. B'cos we are supposed to be active in co-cu, sometimes I don't even study for a week but you should work harder lah when exam is near. I have a friend who took both Bio and Physics, and he says that Physics will be more suitable if you understand concepts pretty well. Bio doesn't need much understanding, only memorise alot of facts. Since you must have gone through Bio & Physics in Form5, you should choose the subject you excel in.

You can actually read through some Form6 books so that you can roughly decide whether you can cope. At first everything seems pretty difficult, but when the whole syllabus is complete, you'll see that Form6 can be quite okay. Try Form6 for a while and opt for a later Alevels intake. Colleges usually have several intakes for Alevels. at least you won't regret next time

1. not really, i play around for the whole 4 course
2. nah.. i only study last month and do quite well
3. PA, Math, physic/biology, chemistry.. some ppl took 5 sub like chinese all 3 science or further math...
4. don know

1. Did you regret for going thru form 6??izzit really so tough like others said?

50-50... it's up to u whether u enjoy ur form 6 or feel that it's torture...

2. Can share some experiences on your study? izzit really a MUST to study everyday for few hours??

me ar?? i depend 100% on tuition ... and i pass all my subject... kinda regret never did any self-study... to aim better results.

3. What subjects should be taken in science stream?

bio, physic, chemistry, maths T, further maths, additional subjects...??

4. The most important thing,can I still apply for uni(such as Utar) if I din do well or sumore even worst failed in stpm??

i think getting a F in STPM is kinda hard unless u blank like 80% of the exam questions... ^__^ and yeah UTAR & KTAR mininum requirement is 2 principles ( 2 C ) so i guess it's a sure-in for these two pricate unis but it's all varies for different colleges.

anyway good luck in ur STPM! and MUET has just change their syllabus so if u are the first batch it should be ok as they would normally lower the bar down to prove the new syllabus works.

1) I never regret...

2) i study sometimes when i have mood to study...

3) science stream only has two choices : Physics or Biology

4) make sure u don't fail your General Studies paper..

ques:

1. Did you regret for going thru form 6??izzit really so tough like others said?

2. Can share some experiences on your study? izzit really a MUST to study everyday for few hours??

3. What subjects should be taken in science stream?

4. The most important thing,can I still apply for uni(such as Utar) if I din do well or sumore even worst failed in stpm??

ans:

1. no regret lo, learn a lot thing and met a lot frens there. actually it was quite tough for bio student coz need to study and memorise a lot. sumo tat time my batch was the new batch using english, damn hard for us since we had no reference book in english, we need to study oversea bio book

2. if u wana score above 3.7, better study everyday lo.

3. depends on which sub u prefer. i dislike physic, so i join the bio and chem class. now i m studying biochem in um.

4. depends on which course u apply and wats the min requirement of the course. put more effort if u wana take stpm

THANKS everyone!!!!

Thanks for sharing your experiences and opinion, and thanks for the encouragement, really appreciate!!
I'll try to work hard as long as my 'fire' is still there! Hope it wont burn out! hehe..

Ya, I'm trying to 'mature' myself, so that i can be more independent in the future and my parents no nid to worry much bout me...

Hehe, trying to persuade my mum and my relatives now... my mum dun have that time to drive me to school, so..i have to drive my self, but i dun dare to since i just got my lesen and the school is quite far from me...hmm...maybe a little practise will do..Haha,penakut...anyway, thanks guys!

This post has been edited by arieliss: Apr 12 2008, 02:29 AM

form 6 is actually one of the many possible malaysian education courses that is up to international standard. but hell some of the teachers are not qualified to teach and it all depends on your initiative. i would say discipline and time management skills are important when you are in form 6. just dont slack off too much.

Hmm,will bear it in mind!thanks!

nvr regret taking form 6...lots to learn.

Never regret.. Only regret how come i didn't pay attention during classes..

1. Did you regret for going thru form 6??izzit really so tough like others said?
I am proud that i took stpm. Well, it depends on individual..

2. Can share some experiences on your study? izzit really a MUST to study everyday for few hours??
Yes, i made revision daily & did alot of exercises (eg past yr questions) and short notes for the subjects.. asked for clarification and better understanding.

3. What subjects should be taken in science stream?
Usually there's 2 combination - biology (include pengajian am, math, chemistry) or physic ( include pengajian am, math, chemistry). but some of my friends they took 5 of them.. meaning bio, physic & the other 3.

4. The most important thing,can I still apply for uni(such as Utar) if I din do well or sumore even worst failed in stpm??
Well, you need to refer to the minumum requirement.. do your best and i am sure you will pass ... : )

i'm planning to take up f6 too... coz for the reasons below
1. i din get the so-calles low-class matrik with my 12 As result
2.I read f6 books b4 and i think the bio an chemistry is vry interesting
3.i wana take dentistry course.. and it cost alot in IPTS..so for the sake of money....i hv to do it no matter hw(tho i wonder do f6 leaver hv much chance to enter IPTA)

1. Did you regret for going thru form 6??izzit really so tough like others said?

depends on your foundation @spm. if you score well in spm getting no C or below then you should be fine with stpm with some constant effort of studying.

if you just wan a pass in stpm it is not that hard after all. but if you want to score,then you will have to work hard.

2. Can share some experiences on your study? izzit really a MUST to study everyday for few hours??

discover your own way of studying.you might need to focus more on your weak subjects and so on. you should know if you need to spend more time on reading and so on.

3. What subjects should be taken in science stream?

depends on combination of subjects your sch offers. another thing to consider is your ambition before deciding. normally you get to choose only physic or biology as the rest will be maths , chemistry and pa

btw hw to apply for form 6
i get matrix...but thn not going
n i dun get upu
so sad

Seriously I don't know what to say about my form 6 life or I just don't know where to start.

i can't remember if i ever applied for it. The namelist should be out by now

I concur.
I never really regretted spending two years in Form 6(even though many ppl,esp my friends that have chosen to enrol in private colleges would think that studying Form6 is a waste of time,but I strongly disagree)The only thing I regretted is picking Science stream over Art stream.I did fairly well in my SPM,scored As for both my Additional Maths and Physics thus I thought it was a sound choice to keep staying in Science stream(esp when I was determined to be an engineer.Later I studied Phyics,not Biology)even though I realised deep down that I would do so much better if I were to switch to Art stream.As expected,I didn't perform well throughout that one and half year.
I was so fed up with my Chemistry teacher who has only a few years of teaching experience.She was horrible as she couldn't answer her own questions,she got as confused as us all the time and she didn't sound convincing and confident with her own teaching methods.How were I going to listen attentively during her lessons?I thought I could study by my own without depending on anyone or seeking a tuition teacher but I was proven wrong many times yet I didn't care.Luckily at the end,about one month before my STPM I managed to get an experienced Chemistry teacher who is also a marker for STPM Chemistry paper to give me tuition.And it paid off.I did surprisingly well in my STPM
My Physics and PA depended solely on my tuition teacher because I was dissappointed with my school teachers as well.My Physics and PA teachers were experienced but they curi tulang ALL THE TIME.Sometimes we only got to see them like twice in a week.


U will be very busy when u are in Form 6 esp when there are a lot kokurikulum activities that u have to participle.Just make sure that u listen in class.If the teachers are lousy,get tuition as fast as possible.Don't wait till the last minute like I did hehehe but always make sure that u don't attend tuition class with your friends.That will distract u from listening in class.One of two friends will be enough as u guys camn help each other out with sharing notes and group discussing after tuition.Don't ever attend tuition class with more than 10 students because the tuition teacher will be too busy to pay attention to u and your problems.Don't even skip school and stay at home surfing the net like what I did !!! It's okay to skip school if u think u are better off doing the study yourself at home or in the library....but don't only sleep and go online at home.That just shows how important self discipline is.make your own time table and stick to it.
As for subjects like Add Maths,spend more time to understand the concepts and do as many exercises as u can.When u can't understand sth,quickly get help from ur friends or teachers and don't wait till tomorrow because most likely u will forget about it or don't care whether u get the solutions.Get a little notebook where u only drop down all the LITTLE important notes.Revise them all the time.
And don't even try to burn mid night oils.I had been spending many nights awake before studying till 4/5 am but that didn't help as u are probably too physically and mentally drained at that time to be able to concentrate and think clearly.And last thing,do revision every night when u come home no matter how tired u are.And before your teachers teach a new chapter,try to learn it at home the night before as that u can have better understanding in class the next morning.

I really hope it helps.I am feeling really generous this afternoon lol

This post has been edited by lovelyduckling: May 1 2008, 02:50 PM

mentos09

why you are not considering matrix?? you should indeed unless you are planning to go oversea.

for IPTA, they fit in all matrix students before STPM>use it as a advantage. it is easier to get courses like medicine , pharmacy and so on.

1. Did you regret for going thru form 6??izzit really so tough like others said?
Never regret, i have many very sweet memories during that time . To me, STPM is not tough. But bear in mind that study in university much more tougher than STPM. Don't ever believe those dockeys say university is very easy once you have undergone STPM.

2. Can share some experiences on your study? izzit really a MUST to study everyday for few hours??
Study? Lol, rarely study that time. Just study before exam still can get good results . Actually, how many hours you need to spend is very depending. If you clever enough then you can spend less time.

3. What subjects should be taken in science stream?
Depend on your interested also. If like calculation, take maths and physics. By the way, physics is easy

4. The most important thing,can I still apply for uni(such as Utar) if I din do well or sumore even worst failed in stpm??
Failed?? No idea, god bless you.

This post has been edited by Mightypc: May 2 2008, 05:30 PM

mighty pc ge wat result?

I would like to share my experience here as an ex form 6 scul leaver from 2007. I have never regretted taking form 6 however I do regret i did not put in efforts during form 6. I was the top student in my ex scul before i set for a new scul(my old scul does not offer form 6). I was very highly anticipated since, I'm one of the best. However, I hadn't been able to discipline myself. I hung around with useless fren which lead me to neglecting study and desire to score. I was no longer my old self, getting poor results, being looked down, I felt no shame tat time..... And I do mean shameless. Made my daddy so mad that he actually scolded my everyday, asking me to get back to my old self, get into studying, however, I dun think there's any problem with myself tat time, I only keep on consoling myself, I can do better next time without any realistic initiatives. Time past by and its mid 2007, I finally regained a little consciousness, starting to put somehow little negligible effort. The desire in my fire and fade everyday.... I studied till late nite everyday, however, I still maintain my daily happy-go-lucky routine. I started everything from the beginning. August came, STPM is just 3 months away, I started to regain my consciousness, I kept away from tat fren, forcing myself to study everything from all the beginning since before this, I have never really put in efforts, things just were not in my memory. I did maths exercise everyday, from the beginning, studied physics from the beginning, understanding and solving problems, reading thru chemistry all the way from the start. Of coz, lots and lots of hurdle, lots of questions and problems in understanding, since i nver paid attention in class. My only source of help comes from a senior who's studying at the same class as me. This senior failed UEC before and he attended form 6 in our scul in order to get into uni. He's a real pro in physics and maths, however, I have to withstand lots of bad jokes and being fooled when asking things to him. He was even reluctant to teach me sometimes, and I have to beg him and he always said he dun believe i was the best student in form 5. All these are just aches to my hearts and pride, however I have no turning point, I'm on the journey to decide my future, so all the complaints and laughters and swallowed down and keep deep in my heart. I finished the whole physical chemistry volume 1 and 2 in 1 month time and went further to organic. By tat time, I slowed down on my chemist and started physics, 1month to finish up roughly the whole syllabus of physics which I can only master kinetic. For the last few weeks, I started to memorize all the organic chemistry and inorganic,practising maths. I cried myself in dark so many times in the midnight......... Why hadn't I started earlier??!!!!!!!! Why hadn't I be wiser??!?!!!! Finally its time, for Pengajian AM, I had no big problem, using form 5's bm to answer the question with the corect way of answering. When it comes to maths 1, I started to feel so nervous, I had problems with almost half of the total questions. Maths 2, I handle them quite comfortably. Physics, more than half can't do. Out of 4 essay, I only managed to write 1 essay, which is on kinetic. Chemistry, my worst nite mare, I keep praying and nearly cried out during the exam, begging FATHER IN HEAVEN to help me and turn the time back................... I can only answered 1/3 of the questions and the rest, I simply hentam........ Physics is the last paper on monday, 3rd of December, tat 'good' fren of mine asked me whether I would like to go for movie during the weekend, I'm devastated, I walked away silently....................... When results out, I went to scul to take it, everybody open them in front of their frens, meanwhile for me, I took my result and drove away to a silent place with no ppl around. I opened my result, and Pengajian Am=B+, Maths=B+, Maths 1=A, Maths 2=C , physics=C+ and finally my chemistry.......... a C!!!!!! I'm so calm... I phoned my dad, telling him my result, He said he was very happy, I was so sad when I heard wat he actually said..... I should get better result if I hadn't wasted my time....................... However, at least my effort at the last minute is come to a pay.
*This fren is actually my ex scul mate, we were not very close in previous scul, however, I'm not used to the culture of this new scul tats y i hung around with him.......
My advice here: If you are going for Form 6, make sure you can handle the stress, even getting a B would be tough, constant revision, exercise are must. Adequate entertainment is ok, never2 follow my footsteps........ You will regret for the rest of your life................... And last but not least, make sure you got a good and positive fren.

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Added on May 3, 2008, 10:25 pmI was actually taking all subjects including bio. I dropped bio with the reason to concentrate on my other subjects. However, Its so clear that its just an excuse.................

This post has been edited by ysh_kobe: May 3 2008, 10:25 PM

F6 is tough but at least you will learn much more than in matrix. I have seen the math subject in matrix. They are a lot simpler.
I my advise, if you can go through F6 with decent results, even with B's and C's only, you will have a better time in university because your basics are already good, at least in engineering courses.

Yes. The easy doesn't prove success.... As there's a saying in chinese, 'ku jin gan lai'.

ysh_kobe definitely tries to kill our eyes

Meaning? I'm just warning you guys to work hard if going for form 6. Work hard for 1 and a half year and enjoy your whole life or enjoy 1.5 year and suffer for the rest of your life...... Your choice. Now, fortunately, I still can at least have an ok future.

How hard did you mean?Oh ya,can we manage to attend cocuriculum if we studying form 6?

@ysh_kobe:U remind me of myself and my friends !!!
The problem with me is that I failed to concentrate in class just because the weather was too hot(I was sleepy all the time)and I hated my teachers VERY much.As a result I skipped school a lot(at least two days in a week,no action was taken against me)Like u my old school doesn't offer form 6 classes thus we had to tansfer to another school.There were less than 50 Science students that year.Imagine being in a learning environment with no competitiveless,lambat laun I was getting lazy and overconfident.I knew I was getting in trouble yet I kept telling myself that everything would turn out okay after I failed my Chemistry for the n-th times.I started to realise that I was running out of time in May07,only then I started work my butt of to do notes.At that time i should have been doing all the lower six chapters' revisions.I lost my faith and I nearly gave up.I kept telling myself that "u can't give up.This is the only and long-waited chance for u to score a scolarship to study overseas.U can't afford to screw it up.U have to keep studying no matter how tired u are.If not u are going to regret it once the result is released because u don't try your best.The guilt is going to drive u insane."I had to keep telling myself that everyday until I finished my Physics paper.The best thing I have ever done was getting a Chemistry tuition teacher though.
So the lesson is don't wait till last minute!!! the time passes tooo fast.Before u realise the STPM is just around the corner.Now I can't wait to attend uni.I told myself that this time i will try super hard.Not gonna let internet ruin my second chance.

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Added on May 4, 2008, 2:42 amTo be honest I skipped a lot of the kokurikulum activities because I was too exhausted after school.I only scored 5.3 while most of my friends scored more than 7 marks each of them. *shrugs* We are supposed to join like three(badan beruniform,kelab,sukan)It almost took up three days in a week while I still needed to take tuition at night !!!

This post has been edited by lovelyduckling: May 4 2008, 02:42 AM

Wow,you have strong will.At the end,what grades you got?Do you make it to public U?

I am still waiting till we are informed which local uni we are offered to.Hopefully I get the engineering course I desire !!!

so what happened to your overseas plan

You doing STPM for science?I heard its of the hardest,glad you made it.Anyway,if you don't mind,can you give me your email address?

Same to me too.......... I would not let the same mistake fail me twice.................... I'll strive to be the brightest among all stars..............

double post lol

This post has been edited by songhan89: May 4 2008, 05:07 AM

lol.. yeah, never think that 1st year is the honey moon year.. you will regret on this concept..
last time, i was in big mistake.. my 1st year... (ah.. those good old days..) everyday attend classes, then when teacher start to give notes, i fall asleep... after class, all my friends went to tuition, especially subject for PA and fizik. I didn't join them.. i tot 'nian.. probably i join them later coz STPM only next year wat'..
and my result for exam (school's exam), 'haiz... i just 'ngam ngam' pass some of the subjects but failed the rest of the subjects'... then ok, time flies.. i just realize, "oh no, it's feb.. and i have the trial exam in next 2 months...' so i quickly went to the 'Yakin' for PA and (just remember this tuition centre)'KITA' for fizik.. and i felt so regret.. coz i had missed a lot..
although i didn't get good result for my STPM, but i learned quite a lot fizik theory from Mr Huan (lol, the another thread remind his name), which is quite useful for my degree.

I mean the way you wrote about your life. Never heard of what a paragraphy is?

The way to live during F6 pretty much depend on yourself. You choose what you do all the time lol. No restriction. No homework. No coursework.
You'll come across with busy and easy people at school.

You need to be disciplined and have the initiative to pick up the studies on your own. Instill some part of you wishing to explore the depth of science. Solving crazy questions and problems.
I find watching science movies fking motivating lol.
Series like CSI will motivate you to study chemistry.
"A Beautiful Mind" will drive you to study Physics and Math lol.

My F6 life wasn't near any point to hectic. Part of the reasons was because i read Physics syllabus on my own during the holidays in lower 6. It really relieved me alot .I learn to keep everything in balance. I just kept in mind what my goals were. Set deadline for myself to complete my homework and exercise. For most of the time, i don't do homework during weekdays at all lol and onced never touched math for a month . But i can spam myself with questions and exercise at weekends for 5 hours straight ahead. And i never touched PA essays at all.

The constant work you should put on is Math,and the science. PA last minute still can save lol.

If you're the smart type, ignore the easy questions and jump to the harder ones. You can save your time .Smart people can go through F6 relatively easier.
If you're not, make sure you can solve all the typical questions. Nailing these will get you near to A.
And Whether you're smart or not smart, drill yourself for the typical exam questions before the final exam to make sure 0 mistakes done during the paper.

This post has been edited by songhan89: May 4 2008, 05:35 AM

What can I do?My STPM result wasn't excellent at all,loads of ppl do better than me and they deserve the scolarships more than I do.I have learnt my lesson.I can always postpone my plan to study overseas.The right and only I could do now is equip myself with knowledge so that I am fully prepared to compete with ppl globally

Sorry no lol I don't give up my email address easily

Lets work hard together !!! I swear I will study really hard this time.

Well, STPM is one of the top 10 hardest exam in WORLD... So, imagine how high the standard is and how good are those who strive......

For STPM the easiest paper is PA, I didnt read, never pay attention in PA class, no tuition, didnt do any PA homework and I still got an A. I did not know what graph it was in STPM so I just hantam any graph I learned in Form 5 maths inside. The best part I scribbled through the essay and writing questions I can't even read some of my own writing.
The subjects that I pay much attention to, did not get me anywhere especially maths, I couldn't do half the paper and only manage a B-. Whereas Biology which I did more questions than needed also did not help me I just got a B. Chemistry I remember there were 2 killer essay questions, most people got tricked and answered it wrongly, I am lucky I have seen that type of questions before and did not fall into the trap but still my structured part sucked so I only manage a B+.

Yea, i agreed STPM paper is one of the hardest, but think wisely. Worth wasting the time in F6. Reason = studying in BM...... dun tell me u work with gov after graduate.

STPM-Using English fully for science subjects..........

form 6 is nt easy bt if u r consistent in that 1 n half year..it shudnt b a prob 4 u guys...

The syllabus is still the same?

Does it mean we need to revision everyday?

Not onlyForm 6, in any Form, the first step is to attend all the lessons and make yourself present in class because if you skip one lesson, you will have to learn it at least 4 times on your own. You see, when we are in class, we learn by listening and using our sight, writing skills etc to study.. this is like studying 4 times for each lesson..if you know what I mean.. Also have all notes ready for each chapter. Don't wait until the last minute because when you panicked, you are finished. When you have all things ready, your revision before the final exams will go smoothly..


By the way, the easiest paper is of course PA esp PA paper 1.. damn easy with 15 statistic questions which I'm sure all can do with a little practice..hehehe..Other science subjects are rather difficult, in my opinion and need constant study and practice.. Tuition, I think is a must unless your teacher is involved in marking the STPM papers...

For those who are going to enrol in form 6 classes, here is a very good website providing information(notes) that is highly relevant and excessively more than what you will learn in Form 6. This website encompasses almost all maths and science subjects except PA.

I would say it is very comprehensive compared to most reference books I have got.

http://www.cliffsnotes.com

This post has been edited by darksider: May 4 2008, 05:45 PM

The website is for form 6?or more than form 6?

THis is one real fact that one must consider. Entering form six means put 4x more effort on everything.
In my previous school, teachers started to act like lecturers. where you will be no more spoon fed. You need to find extra resources on your own. Do your own exercises. Teachers were preparing us to enter U bit by bit..

Didn't regret my Form 6 years. It was one of my best in fact among the secondary years.

True you have to work your ass off for it. Imagine chunking down 2 whole books of formulae for Physics and Math and 3 books for Chemistry. And remember a whole crap load of facts for PA. But you have 1 and a half years for that, plus prior to STPM itself you'll be taking a month off to focus purely on study anyway.

Took tuition for Chemistry and Physics. Good days, especially Chem (Pn Lee).

STPM was a sweet memory of 2005. I'm now finishing 2nd year in Mechanical Engineering, NUS. Locally they offer me UKM but I was only choosing between UM and NUS back then, choice was obvious. Btw I scored 3As 1A- (Math T of 2005 was terribly hard).

1. Did you regret for going thru form 6??izzit really so tough like others said?
yes, i regret... i wish i study A level instead of Form 6 cuz my form 6 result aint good

2. Can share some experiences on your study? izzit really a MUST to study everyday for few hours??
im a bit lazy... no in fact im lazy.... i only study when i've exam

3. What subjects should be taken in science stream?
maths, physic, chemistry ... i heard that bio kinda tough....

4. The most important thing,can I still apply for uni(such as Utar) if I din do well or sumore even worst failed in stpm??
yup, u can still apply for any local university be it private or non-private

Dear devilelle,
Why you said you would rather choose A-level at the 1st place?A-level is much more easier to score?
Isn't their syllabus is more detail and harder to score compared to STPM?
Your reply is appreciated

Of course more than form 6,it's a US publishing company.

Catch a glimpse of what you are going to study,you can refer to this website and I think it's more comprehensive and reliable compared to wiki or other reference websites.

www.answers.com is a good website too.

1. Did you regret for going thru form 6??izzit really so tough like others said?
Never regretted i took it, actually proud that i took it although deeply regretting not working hard through it


2. Can share some experiences on your study? izzit really a MUST to study everyday for few hours?? shocking.gif
I never really did study much as i took STPM in KTAR = spend more time going cafe and play around than studying even though i do have some really good lecturers there especially chemistry...Study everyday???actually not really necessary,just make sure u pay attention in class, take your own initiative to find out about things that u are unsure or blur about and be prepared to work hard. STPM is not that dependent on memorizing than u think and is not as hard as you think it is.


3. What subjects should be taken in science stream?
This is a question that u should be asking yourself shouldn't you???you have to decide on your own which path that u wish to take. I took physics, chem, maths and GP coz i never took Biology during my spm days.

4. The most important thing,can I still apply for uni(such as Utar) if I din do well or sumore even worst failed in stpm??
Of course can if you are able to get reasonable grades. A cgpa of 1.8 already allows you to enrol into certain private universities. A fren of mine actually had cgpa of 1.8 yet still manage to get into 1st year degree at MMU. As told by my lecturer, if you think that you're really hopeless with a subject (besides GP, fail GP = die ), forget about it and concentrate on the other two and try your hardest on getting at least a C. That way you'll have 3 credits (that was the thing that unis look at, the amount of credits rather than your overall CGPA, thats how my fren got into MMU coz he has three credits while he absolutely flunked the other one). I sincerely hope you do not end up in this kind of situation however.

more detailed? no.

harder to score? depends

Thanks!

Why much of the people here say they didn't work hard during STPM?Is it a norm?LOL.

What you mean by depends?A-level is from UK,right?So I assume their standard is higher though.

A-level has always been simplified,meaning they have removed parts that are unnecessary and negligible whereas STPM has always been increased in its "depth",meaning a lot of junks that you won't see in A level appear there.However,this junks do help you to understand further,that's why STPM students learn more...ahh just an assumption.

This post has been edited by darksider: May 5 2008, 07:07 PM