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post Apr 1 2008, 06:20 PM, updated 18y ago

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Welcome to Lowyat's Piano Club!

this thread is dedicated to all players who love the piano/keybaord!! come come discuss anything!! Come share the joy of the keys and beauty of music!! no matter whether you just started, or you are a proffesional, we are all one as musicians!
ranging from ABRSM to LCM exams, grade 1 to degrees, Music to plays, experince, stories! anything can be shared and appreciated here!!


Recommended songs:
contemporary:
Secret-Jay Chou
Marriage D'Amour(Wedding in the Dream)-richard hmm.gif
To Zanarkard-Final fantasy
Ballade pour Adeline -Richard Clayderman hmm.gif
The Fountain Music, Death is the Road to Awe - Lennon Aldort
Tonci Huljic-Croatian Rhapsody(not sure wat period=.= )-help-

Romantic period:
Fantasie Impromptu- Chopin
Etude Op 10 no 12(revolutionary)-Chopin
Etude Op 25 no 11(winter wind)-Chopin
Etude Op 25 no 12-Chopin
Nocturne op 9 no 2-Chopin
Waltz in C#minor-Chopin
waltz of the flower-Tchaikovsky
dance of the sugar plum fairy-Tchaikovsky

Classical period:
Moonlight sonata-beethoven
Fur elise-Beethoven

Baroque period:
Cannon in D-Pachabeal

if you have songs to recommend for lowyatiers to play, do post!!

Pianist of Lowyat:
Icypetals
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befitozi
raining again
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[vogue]angel
little ice
x-crusader
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Excellent idea.
We HAD a few keyboard/piano threads flying all over the place, but if we have a club, can consolidate into one. good work mate!
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Not that I play one, but I've always wanted to.

Anyways, this always give me goosebumps.


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post Apr 1 2008, 09:02 PM

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then its decided then!!!
A piano club!!
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post Apr 1 2008, 10:06 PM

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I am learning Beethoven's Sonata #14. Done with the first movement, moving on to the second movement and I think the third movement will makes me crazy.
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sort of 'retired' pianist here.
finished grade 8 of ABRSM and slacking like hell in diploma. not sure when will i be able to take exam.

ever since i got my new guitar i never touched the piano.





2 oooold vids of me playin

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post Apr 1 2008, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(hanhanhan @ Apr 1 2008, 10:45 PM)
ever since i got my new guitar i never touched the piano.
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post Apr 2 2008, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(hanhanhan @ Apr 1 2008, 10:45 PM)
sort of 'retired' pianist here.
finished grade 8 of ABRSM and slacking like hell in diploma. not sure when will i be able to take exam.

ever since i got my new guitar i never touched the piano.


2 oooold vids of me playin
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LOL WHY STOP PIANO XD
diploma? not bad wut, what did u get for ur abrsm grd 8? merit or distinction?

go learn some chopin XD
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QUOTE(Cello @ Apr 1 2008, 10:06 PM)
I am learning Beethoven's Sonata #14. Done with the first movement, moving on to the second movement and I think the third movement will makes me crazy.
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beethoven sonata #14? never heard of it before? it is hard or somethn? i learning more on chopin etudes, there are easier i think, unlikes beethovens. XD
sonata makes me crazy!!! XD

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i dont know.. nobody 'special' to play it to. =(

piano is like sex.

if you play it for someone else, its making love.

if you play it for yourself, its masturbating.


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QUOTE(icypetals @ Apr 2 2008, 01:08 PM)
beethoven sonata #14? never heard of it before? it is hard or somethn? i learning more on chopin etudes, there are easier i think, unlikes beethovens. XD
sonata makes me crazy!!! XD
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http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=O6txOvK-mAk

Even though you see it is easy to play but memorizing them is hard. Thus, the first movement is all about slowness and softness. That is the difficult expression to play.

Well, I do not focus on easier music. It is all about going for the next level.


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i dont know.. nobody 'special' to play it to. =(

piano is like sex.

if you play it for someone else, its making love.

if you play it for yourself, its masturbating.
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You used music in the wrong way. shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(hanhanhan @ Apr 2 2008, 03:13 PM)
i dont know.. nobody 'special' to play it to. =(

piano is like sex.

if you play it for someone else, its making love.

if you play it for yourself, its masturbating.
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and if you play it to alot of ppl u dunno, its bukkake? tongue.gif
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haha i just dont know why i lost the passion to play the piano anymore after my ex dumped me
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QUOTE(hanhanhan @ Apr 2 2008, 08:43 PM)
haha i just dont know why i lost the passion to play the piano anymore after my ex dumped me
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This thread is getting out of hand......
clean up the language or I'll close this thread for cleaning......

this is NOT an April Fool's Joke.
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hey , nice threat here ! so, i just bought a yamaha psr e403 keyboard about 2 weeks ago. actually i bought it was for self learning -piano. i don't really wana use others fuction yet cus i'm more in piano first. is there any piano songs to play for , i mean easy ones ? btw , so far i've understand most of the chords and could play many songs with chords in the sheet. what you guys think i should learn now ? notes i think is abit hard but i can translate from guitar notes that i've learn from what i;ve learn from guitar lessons. thanx in advance biggrin.gif

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play stuffs from avenged sevenfold they're quite easy.
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QUOTE(raining again @ Apr 4 2008, 12:04 PM)
hey , nice threat here ! so, i just bought a yamaha psr e403 keyboard about 2 weeks ago. actually i bought it was for self learning -piano. i don't really wana use others fuction yet cus i'm more in piano first. is there any piano songs to play for , i mean easy ones ? btw , so far i've understand most of the chords and could play many songs with chords in the sheet. what you guys think i should learn now ? notes i think is abit hard but i can translate from guitar notes that i've learn from what i;ve learn from guitar lessons. thanx in advance  biggrin.gif
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Broken chords. I recommend Fur Elise by Beethoven, I know it is a classical music but it does sounds good and it is famous. Time to get your hands to move on the melody part (your right hand playing).

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play stuffs from avenged sevenfold they're quite easy.
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the keyboard parts from avenged sevenfold are pretty simple, no?
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QUOTE(hanhanhan @ Apr 5 2008, 01:07 AM)
the keyboard parts from avenged sevenfold are pretty simple, no?
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Okay, it is just a little part. No tabs available exist.
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QUOTE(raining again @ Apr 4 2008, 12:04 PM)
hey , nice threat here ! so, i just bought a yamaha psr e403 keyboard about 2 weeks ago. actually i bought it was for self learning -piano. i don't really wana use others fuction yet cus i'm more in piano first. is there any piano songs to play for , i mean easy ones ? btw , so far i've understand most of the chords and could play many songs with chords in the sheet. what you guys think i should learn now ? notes i think is abit hard but i can translate from guitar notes that i've learn from what i;ve learn from guitar lessons. thanx in advance  biggrin.gif
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usually, i would recomend going down to the music shop, they have famous pop songs there that u can play, and they are quite simple and quite fun.

u know those books with the covers of songs they have eg:westlife, avril, linkin park etc
eg:ong lee hom, jolin, jay chou etc

i would not recomend fur elise as some ppl dont like classical, unless u like fur elise, then its a nice choice
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Hmm i thought of posting my vids here .. but after i see hanhanhan's vid ... i deduce mine is of insuffecient quality lol
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QUOTE(befitozi @ Apr 5 2008, 11:39 PM)
Hmm i thought of posting my vids here .. but after i see hanhanhan's vid ... i deduce mine is of insuffecient quality lol
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LOL, share it around la!!!
XD i always love to watch videos, especially from our fellow malaysian^^!!


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QUOTE(icypetals @ Apr 6 2008, 03:11 PM)
LOL, share it around la!!!
XD i always love to watch videos, especially from our fellow malaysian^^!!
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Ahaha ok.





unfortunately no matter how much i try to fix some of the mistakes i make...i can't seem to improve on it blush.gif

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QUOTE(befitozi @ Apr 6 2008, 03:25 PM)
Ahaha ok.





unfortunately no matter how much i try to fix some of the mistakes i make...i can't seem to improve on it  blush.gif
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eh, PRO LA !! say until sendiri so bad=.="

final fantasy XD i lol'd looking at that video XD nv finnizh tat song, i prefer melodies of life, easier(zanarakrd hard==)

second song nice, from maksim right icon_rolleyes.gif ?

haha, talented la u!
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I do not think so To Zanarkand is hard.
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alright i made up my mind.

im gona start playin the piano again.

but i dont wana rush into technical pieces first. wana do some piano covers of existing hits.

any requests?
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X-Japan - Tears!!!!! laugh.gif

Anyway good to see a number of videos being posted in this thread. Really admire the way you guys play, inspiring stuff... keep them coming! thumbup.gif

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I do not think so To Zanarkand is hard.
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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ Apr 7 2008, 09:20 PM)
Your point, sir? biggrin.gif
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Simple, that piece is not the hardest on the piano.
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QUOTE(Cello @ Apr 7 2008, 09:24 PM)
Simple, that piece is not the hardest on the piano.
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Ahh I geddit... what an eyeopener! Wouldn't have guessed it otherwise, thanks for the info! rclxms.gif thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ Apr 7 2008, 09:38 PM)
Ahh I geddit... what an eyeopener! Wouldn't have guessed it otherwise, thanks for the info! rclxms.gif  thumbup.gif
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ahh tears!

i played it years ago.

leme dig out my book tomorrow and start recordin again =)
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QUOTE(icypetals @ Apr 7 2008, 05:47 PM)
eh, PRO LA !! say until sendiri so bad=.="

final fantasy XD i lol'd looking at that video XD nv finnizh tat song, i prefer melodies of life, easier(zanarakrd hard==)

second song nice, from maksim right icon_rolleyes.gif ?

haha, talented la u!
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hahaha but if compared ....

well, thats the end of it from the music score i have.

yeah croatian rhapsody tongue.gif

where got talented ... still alot more to improve tongue.gif
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QUOTE(hanhanhan @ Apr 7 2008, 10:42 PM)
ahh tears!

i played it years ago.

leme dig out my book tomorrow and start recordin again =)
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That would be great... hooray! Looking forward to it. biggrin.gif

Sorry if I suggested a piece that is not the hardest one. unsure.gif blush.gif
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My last exam's piece. This is the 3rd movement, I have to play all. Altogether is about 15 minutes long.


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QUOTE(Cello @ Apr 7 2008, 07:55 PM)
I do not think so To Zanarkand is hard.
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i use final fantasy score to sight read, so when reach the part with alot of triplet i just cincai play and that was the end of it XD LOLOLOLOLOL
QUOTE(Cello @ Apr 8 2008, 10:09 AM)
My last exam's piece. This is the 3rd movement, I have to play all. Altogether is about 15 minutes long.


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LOL, wat exam u taking? diploma or bachalor of music=.=" usually exams this gives us songs that doesnt sound that great! why couldnt they give us fantasie impromptu to play as exam piece biggrin.gif hhahaha
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ATCL diploma's exam piece is fantaisie impromptu la. haha

anyways.. last year i practised that piece like hell and nailed it.

but because i ONLY PRACTISED THAT ONE SONG for a month or so, my right-left hand coordination got screwed up. and after that i can never play scales the same way again. my right hand is always faster than my left.


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HSBC Classics Piano Competition & HSBC Bursary

a piano competition, sorry closing date jor. but anyway, we can still watch the competition!
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QUOTE(Cello @ Apr 8 2008, 10:09 AM)
My last exam's piece. This is the 3rd movement, I have to play all. Altogether is about 15 minutes long.


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sonata no.14 3rd movement, I wanna die playing tat song =.= fingers all stiff le.

QUOTE(hanhanhan @ Apr 8 2008, 07:14 PM)
ATCL diploma's exam piece is fantaisie impromptu la. haha

anyways.. last year i practised that piece like hell and nailed it.

but because i ONLY PRACTISED THAT ONE SONG for a month or so, my right-left hand coordination got screwed up. and after that i can never play scales the same way again. my right hand is always faster than my left.
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fantasie impromptu i can play, but messy, xD super super messy, =) my left hand basically wont hit all the notes, cos my right hand is going too fast?
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hey guys, wats the diffrence with abrsm and lcm?

i have been taking lcm all my life and nv taken abrsm except abrsm for violin.

Anyway, whats the difrence with lcm and abrsm? my friends say abrsm is better, but my teacher doesnt agree. he say as long u score distinction in either lcm grd 8 or abrsm grd 8 is the same?

anybody care to elaborate
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anyone into jazz and blues here? trying to learn but kinda hardlar. i like jazz coz u can improvise like crazy......... and play all kinds of crazy notes. wondering anywhere can get old and beat up Hammond B3 organ............. . I just love progressive rock keyboardist and jazz pianist. Can listen to all their improvisation
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QUOTE([vogue]angel @ Apr 8 2008, 08:38 PM)
anyone into jazz and blues here? trying to learn but kinda hardlar. i like jazz coz u can improvise like crazy......... and play all kinds of crazy notes. wondering anywhere can get old and beat up Hammond B3 organ............. . I just love progressive rock keyboardist and jazz pianist. Can listen to all their improvisation
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QUOTE(icypetals @ Apr 8 2008, 07:47 PM)
hey guys, wats the diffrence with abrsm and lcm?

i have been taking lcm all my life and nv taken abrsm except abrsm for violin.

Anyway, whats the difrence with lcm and abrsm? my friends say abrsm is better, but my teacher doesnt agree. he say as long u score distinction in either lcm grd 8 or abrsm grd 8 is the same?

anybody care to elaborate
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quote due important to me XD
someone please elaborate.


Added on April 8, 2008, 9:26 pmseems like many ppl lke final fantasy pieces( who doesnt? )

this new piece is from final fantasy 7:crisis core
i love it!
what do u think? give comment!


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QUOTE(icypetals @ Apr 8 2008, 04:29 PM)
i use final fantasy score to sight read, so when reach the part with alot of triplet i just cincai play and that was the end of it XD LOLOLOLOLOL

LOL, wat exam u taking? diploma or bachalor of music=.=" usually exams this gives us songs that doesnt sound that great! why couldnt they give us fantasie impromptu to play as exam piece biggrin.gif  hhahaha
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Think again, you should play music correctly. No rush. Music is music. Please take music seriously and you will get it. To Zanarkand is a free expressive piece not "cincai", take it seriously please. You will not want to see your favourite pianist to play it "cincai" for you, so you have to play it seriously.

It is just a diploma ATCL, nothing special.

I want to tell you. After you have ended graded exams, you will have to study music history, conducting, directing, composing and a lot more. Till then, you will think that no one in this world is better than Beethoven, Mozart and those.


QUOTE(hanhanhan @ Apr 8 2008, 07:14 PM)
ATCL diploma's exam piece is fantaisie impromptu la. haha

anyways.. last year i practised that piece like hell and nailed it.

but because i ONLY PRACTISED THAT ONE SONG for a month or so, my right-left hand coordination got screwed up. and after that i can never play scales the same way again. my right hand is always faster than my left.
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Fantaisie Impromptu, it appear once in an exam hall.

I have been practicing and study that piece behind the history for a year.

If I am your teacher, I will force you to learn again. Always make your left and right hand do different notes, that is the basic. I feel so bad for you that you cannot play scales like never before, that is not possible. Do it again.


QUOTE(onelove89 @ Apr 8 2008, 07:39 PM)
sonata no.14 3rd movement, I wanna die playing tat song =.= fingers all stiff le.
fantasie impromptu i can play, but messy, xD super super messy, =) my left hand basically wont hit all the notes, cos my right hand is going too fast?
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To be exact. It is Piano Sonata #14, 3rd movement opus. 27 no. 2.

Are you sure your fingers are stiff or you do not want to put in effort on it?

No, because you cannot control your left hand while you are busy with your right hand. Go "unlock" it.


QUOTE(icypetals @ Apr 8 2008, 07:47 PM)
hey guys, wats the diffrence with abrsm and lcm?

i have been taking lcm all my life and nv taken abrsm except abrsm for violin.

Anyway, whats the difrence with lcm and abrsm? my friends say abrsm is better, but my teacher doesnt agree. he say as long u score distinction in either lcm grd 8 or abrsm grd 8 is the same?

anybody care to elaborate
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What is the difference between SMK Damansara and SMK Kuala Lumpur? (for an example).

Think again.

I do not care, any exam hall will do. Everyone has their own opinion. I always request for exam syllabus before confirm going into the exam.

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QUOTE(Cello @ Apr 8 2008, 09:36 PM)
Think again, you should play music correctly. No rush. Music is music. Please take music seriously and you will get it. To Zanarkand is a free expressive piece not "cincai", take it seriously please. You will not want to see your favourite pianist to play it "cincai" for you, so you have to play it seriously.

It is just a diploma ATCL, nothing special.


No, because you cannot control your left hand while you are busy with your right hand. Go "unlock" it.

What is the difference between SMK Damansara and SMK Kuala Lumpur? (for an example).

Think again.

I do not care, any exam hall will do. Everyone has their own opinion. I always request for exam syllabus before confirm going into the exam.

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nay, i show my teacher and my teacher ask me sight read , so sight read loXD im kinda busy with my studies in school, so i use up my time practising baroque, classical and romantic period pieces! comteponary pieces not often except for secret.

ummmmmmm, actaully wat is the diffrence between smk damansara and smk kuala lumpur?( im from kedah=.=")
So there are no diffrence? ok! then i concentrade on lcm then
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nay, i show my teacher and my teacher ask me sight read , so sight read loXD im kinda busy with my studies in school, so i use up my time practising baroque, classical and romantic period pieces! comteponary pieces not often except for secret.

ummmmmmm, actaully wat is the diffrence between smk damansara and smk kuala lumpur?( im from kedah=.=")
So there are no diffrence? ok! then i concentrade on lcm then
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If your teacher tell you to play the piano upside down, will you play?

Goodness, you do not understand what I mean. Just compare two of your secondary school in town.

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If your teacher tell you to play the piano upside down, will you play?

Goodness, you do not understand what I mean. Just compare two of your secondary school in town.

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=.=" u dont get my point=.="

i print the whole FF sheet from my friend and i showed my teacher. so my teacher ask me to use the FF sheet as a sight reading exercise, the only pieces i practise throughly with emotion and dynamic would be melodies of life ! i love that song, donno why!

oh, my teacher doesnt ask me to play the piano upside down whistling.gif
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QUOTE(little ice @ Apr 8 2008, 10:57 PM)
i'm new here, joining the big lowyat net family! biggrin.gif

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I have been practicing and study that piece behind the history for a year.
u mean the history behind the piece?
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QUOTE(Cello @ Apr 8 2008, 09:36 PM)
Think again, you should play music correctly. No rush. Music is music. Please take music seriously and you will get it. To Zanarkand is a free expressive piece not "cincai", take it seriously please. You will not want to see your favourite pianist to play it "cincai" for you, so you have to play it seriously.
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everyone has their own preference of playing music, i guess? when i'm in a mood, i play serious, when i'm not, i cincai play.

...i actually wished to see my favourite pianist play something cincai, gotta be fun! laugh.gif

QUOTE(Cello @ Apr 8 2008, 09:36 PM)
What is the difference between SMK Damansara and SMK Kuala Lumpur? (for an example).

Think again.

I do not care, any exam hall will do. Everyone has their own opinion. I always request for exam syllabus before confirm going into the exam.

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your opinions is definitely clearly stated, but the example was probably a bad one. sweat.gif

he's asking for the difference in details or maybe your opinions on the syllabus anyway. so icypetals you have to find out the syllabus differences and people's opinions on your own. smile.gif
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cello reminds me of chiaki from nodame cantabile.

must play the piece properly and strictly adhere to the manuscript. haha
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playing the piano upside down, hmmmm...
if tommy lee can play the drums upside down, im sure he wont mind trying the piano upside down too...
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QUOTE(hanhanhan @ Apr 8 2008, 11:13 PM)
u mean the history behind the piece?
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Yes. Beethoven's love letter and so on.


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everyone has their own preference of playing music, i guess? when i'm in a mood, i play serious, when i'm not, i cincai play.

...i actually wished to see my favourite pianist play something cincai, gotta be fun! laugh.gif
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But I could not really accept those who play music "cincai" all the time. Understand what I mean?

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QUOTE(Cello @ Apr 8 2008, 11:52 PM)
But I could not really accept those who play music "cincai" all the time. Understand what I mean?
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he might be just in the mood of playing cincai. sweat.gif

i understand how you feel as a teacher but maybe you took things too seriously? icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(icypetals @ Apr 8 2008, 10:26 PM)
i print the whole FF sheet from my friend and i showed my teacher. so my teacher ask me to use the FF sheet as a sight reading exercise, the only pieces i practise throughly with emotion and dynamic would be melodies of life ! i love that song, donno why!

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probrably because your teacher wants you to spend more time practicing the exam pieces then playing others. tongue.gif

and i don't see how can u sight read the climax part blink.gif

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QUOTE(little ice @ Apr 9 2008, 01:31 AM)
he might be just in the mood of playing cincai. sweat.gif

i understand how you feel as a teacher but maybe you took things too seriously? icon_idea.gif
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That is fine, sometimes I am not serious.

Sometimes is fine to play it "cincai" but not all the time.

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i'm new here, joining the big lowyat net family! biggrin.gif

i play piano and keyboard as well as program MIDI. yoroshiku onegaishimasu!
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 8 2008, 11:16 PM)
playing the piano upside down, hmmmm...
if tommy lee can play the drums upside down, im sure he wont mind trying the piano upside down too...
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in amadues movie, mozart did that XD

eh dude, enuf with the debate of playing zanarkard "cincai" LOL!! it wil go on forreevverraaarr!!!!!!

anyway, any guys have any idea on joining the malaysia philharmonic orchestra(violin part)??
are malaysian allegible to join?

if so, are there any minimum requirement like degree in classical music or performance or masters in something?
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QUOTE(Cello @ Apr 9 2008, 11:15 AM)
That is fine, sometimes I am not serious.

Sometimes is fine to play it "cincai" but not all the time.

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i've gone through every post he made in this thread, there's not a single hint stating that he *always* cincai play. moreover, it's sight reading, which means if you see bunch notes cramped together you'll probably doing *sigh* reading anyway. if he's gonna perform it in front of everybody, that's different story.

he's not your student so why get yourself fustrated? that doesn't make you looks cool. wink.gif


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QUOTE(icypetals @ Apr 9 2008, 03:43 PM)
anyway, any guys have any idea on joining the malaysia philharmonic orchestra(violin part)??
are malaysian allegible to join?

if so, are there any minimum requirement like degree in classical music or performance or masters in something?
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as far as i know, orchestra doesn't look at your qualification, instead they'll audition you with the dreaded sight reading as the players ARE doing sight readings everyday. players HAVE to play it smooth even it's the first time they got the score. they have no time to waste, the first thing conductor going to screw you on is all the dynamics and expressions, so if you can't even play properly, you're most probably out cause you're all other players can't be dragged just because 1 player cannot play well. sweat.gif I don't know in detail how perfect the players can sight read a stranger's score, but i think they're really of high standard.

there're a few malaysian in MPO, that said, you're welcomed as long as you're good enough. i can imagine more malaysian will be even better cause the money are floating off to oversea badly if hire too many foreigners. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(little ice @ Apr 9 2008, 03:45 PM)
i've gone through every post he made in this thread, there's not a single hint stating that he *always* cincai play. moreover, it's sight reading, which means if you see bunch notes cramped together you'll probably doing *sigh* reading anyway. if he's gonna perform it in front of everybody, that's different story.

he's not your student so why get yourself fustrated? that doesn't make you looks cool. wink.gif


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as far as i know, orchestra doesn't look at your qualification, instead they'll audition you with the dreaded sight reading as the players ARE doing sight readings everyday. players HAVE to play it smooth even it's the first time they got the score. they have no time to waste, the first thing conductor going to screw you on is all the dynamics and expressions, so if you can't even play properly, you're most probably out cause you're all other players can't be dragged just because 1 player cannot play well. sweat.gif I don't know in detail how perfect the players can sight read a stranger's score, but i think they're really of high standard.

there're a few malaysian in MPO, that said, you're welcomed as long as you're good enough. i can imagine more malaysian will be even better cause the money are floating off to oversea badly if hire too many foreigners. biggrin.gif
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shocking.gif that strucked my heart!
LOL, then i should start working hard then!

MALAYSIAN philharmonic orchestra XD so malaysian should join!
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Oh well, im still young.....i got much to learn

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QUOTE(Cello @ Apr 8 2008, 09:36 PM)
Are you sure your fingers are stiff or you do not want to put in effort on it?

No, because you cannot control your left hand while you are busy with your right hand. Go "unlock" it.
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yeah i'm trying to improve after 5 years or so of not touching classical pieces haha, been playing in church though, but its all chords. needa repolish my skills =D

trying to unlock that skill, trying to tell my left hand not to follow my right xD but they are such good friends~~ lalala xD

basically practising some songs, but i think i jump the cue too fast >< cos my fingers are still stiff and coordinations are kinda off, plus, my sight reading is really bad now T.T sob~ practising liszt songs which are full of arpegios and scales >< finger tangling. Practising Liebestraum , very nice song ^^ romantic piece and I gave up on la campanella cos its too hard >.< might try again later when i repolish everything.
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yo..
noob pianist here...

currently practicing secret by jaychou
and some other pop songs
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my problem is my left hand cant follow my right now. haha

playing scales is killing me
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QUOTE(hanhanhan @ Apr 10 2008, 01:02 AM)
my problem is my left hand cant follow my right now. haha

playing scales is killing me
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play chopin's etude in e minor 10 times everyday like one of your video... tongue.gif

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Nobody mentioned "Suteki Da Ne"???
Anyway, I really like this version arranged by mosnterpanda (a self-taught musician)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A3FoVjPYtI

He also do a collaboration duet video with a guitarist for it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMcA2OO00zs

The above video is old, the recording isn't good. His latest video Compilations of FF and some other is in STEREO, it's really good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6ef9ozh4sc

He has also learned to make use of his keyboard features, watch the video, Angela Aki - Sakurairo:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cvBGPfmRqM


Lastly, another great song nobody mentioned:-
Chrono Tigger - 600 A.D.
In the Compilation video I posted above does include this song, but I like most is the arrangement by "kLuTz", superb!!! So different from the original yet so nice, 4 different arrangements, the last arrangement is the hardest to play, so complicated.

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Nobody mentioned "Suteki Da Ne"???
Anyway, I really like this version arranged by mosnterpanda (a self-taught musician)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A3FoVjPYtI

He also do a collaboration duet video with a guitarist for it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMcA2OO00zs

The above video is old, the recording isn't good. His latest video Compilations of FF and some other is in STEREO, it's really good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6ef9ozh4sc

He has also learned to make use of his keyboard features, watch the video, Angela Aki - Sakurairo:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cvBGPfmRqM
Lastly, another great song nobody mentioned:-
Chrono Tigger - 600 A.D.
In the Compilation video I posted above does include this song, but I like most is the arrangement by "kLuTz", superb!!! So different from the original yet so nice, 4 different arrangements, the last arrangement is the hardest to play, so complicated.
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i wasnt fairly impressed by the suteki dane video, but the second video with the guitarist was good!

the 4th video, was awesome!!

i think somebody mention suteki da neXD

i didnt know final fantasy musics were so famous !


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yo..
noob pianist here...

currently practicing secret by jaychou
and some other pop songs
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WECLOME TO DA CLUB DUDE! laugh.gif

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yo..
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currently practicing secret by jaychou
and some other pop songs
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aiya, dont say noob or pro =) music is all bout fun for me =D oh ppl have been talking bout that song from jay chow, i din even hear it b4, isit really tat nice? If so i might wanna go find it xD

I dunno why ppl think piano is a trend and parents all want them to learn. Piano is well, unique, even though alot of ppl know how to play it though. But heck, its just fun to play on the piano =D sometimes i find it boring to play on my viola cos uh... feel like missing something, i don feel so with piano though. =)
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personally, i don't like the jay chow "secret" piano song. sweat.gif

parents all over the planet want their children to learn piano because (in my opinion) it's the basic of all instruments. it's easy to understand the basic of piano, and virtually anyone can at play "mary had a little lamb" on the piano, but not on any other instruments. at the same time theory is also explained on a piano and it's the most intuitive to understand.

on top of that, piano is so versatile that it can perform a lot of things ranging from solo to accompaniment. as you know children always practice alone at home so piano is the one that'll make the children enjoy learning music. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(icypetals @ Apr 10 2008, 02:15 PM)
i wasnt fairly impressed by the suteki dane video, but the second video with the guitarist was good!
LoL, the second video is the same as the first video, just added duet by the guitarist mainly on the melody.
What I like is his way of arrangement, is very different from the original piano compilation, to me, his arrangement feels more lively, more oomph, more feel and there's few parts which makes your adrenaline running, bulu roma naik, etc. The sound quality is very poor tough.
Anyway, it's just what I feel. Some prefer the original piano compilcations (which is pretty different from the actual song; his arrangement is more close or similar to the original song).

By the way, there're few parts from his arrangement feels wierd or different from normal pianist, feels like guitar strumming style. He was a guitarist afterall, self-taught. He also plays violin, and some other instruments.

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QUOTE(onelove89 @ Apr 10 2008, 03:01 PM)
aiya, dont say noob or pro =) music is all bout fun for me =D oh ppl have been talking bout that song from jay chow, i din even hear it b4, isit really tat nice? If so i might wanna go find it xD

I dunno why ppl think piano is a trend and parents all want them to learn. Piano is well, unique, even though alot of ppl know how to play it though. But heck, its just fun to play on the piano =D sometimes i find it boring to play on my viola cos uh... feel like missing something, i don feel so with piano though. =)
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YUP! I agree, we must not diffrence ourself to "noob" or pro". we are all ones as musician!
we are here to learn what we donno!
remember, the more wisdom u got, the more u understand that u understnad less!
those ppl who donno and learns are the great musician,
those who think they are alll that great and proud, wont improve and be like that forever.
DONT BE THAT! BE PROACTIVE!

actually, i donno why parents like their children to learn piano( i started at 3+ and always kena drag there while crying)
but a studies show that children who learn music are more aware and have better mentallity, they can use both of their brain.( aka smarter)

i donno bout that, but when ppl like to linkin park, talking bout how rock it is, i was thinking of the chords they useXD( Am7, BbmSUS4, bii7,)
LOL, and when i hear anything out of random, i will try to pitch the sound XD
lol, wierd me=.= doh.gif
QUOTE(Andy214 @ Apr 10 2008, 03:53 PM)
LoL, the second video is the same as the first video, just added duet by the guitarist mainly on the melody.
What I like is his way of arrangement, is very different from the original piano compilation, to me, his arrangement feels more lively, more oomph, more feel and there's few parts which makes your adrenaline running, bulu roma naik, etc. The sound quality is very poor tough.
Anyway, it's just what I feel. Some prefer the original piano compilcations (which is pretty different from the actual song; his arrangement is more close or similar to the original song).

By the way, there're few parts from his arrangement feels wierd or different from normal pianist, feels like guitar strumming style. He was a guitarist afterall, self-taught. He also plays violin, and some other instruments.
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loL! that explains the arrangement =D
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i said im a noob pianist coz...
i've been learning piano for over 15 yrs...
but my skills still.... doh.gif
but still...
we r musicians...
so thr is no noob or pro...
juz music lovers...
hahahaha

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i've been learning piano for over 15 yrs...
but my skills still.... doh.gif
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i've been playing piano for 20 years, and I still can't perfectly play a simple piece, even a pop song. sweat.gif

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QUOTE(icypetals @ Apr 10 2008, 07:08 PM)
YUP! I agree, we must not diffrence ourself to "noob" or pro". we are all ones as musician!
we are here to learn what we donno!
remember, the more wisdom u got, the more u understand that u understnad less!
those ppl who donno and learns are the great musician,
those who think they are alll that great and proud, wont improve and be like that forever.
DONT BE THAT! BE PROACTIVE!

actually, i donno why parents like their children to learn piano( i started at 3+ and always kena drag there while crying)
but a studies show that children who learn music are more aware and have better mentallity, they can use both of their brain.( aka smarter)

i donno bout that, but when ppl like to linkin park, talking bout how rock it is, i was thinking of the chords they useXD( Am7, BbmSUS4, bii7,)
LOL, and when i hear anything out of random, i will try to pitch the sound XD
lol, wierd me=.= doh.gif

loL! that explains the arrangement =D
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yeah... we are all musicians ^^ anyway, i learn piano since 5, well mom ask me to give it a try and i tried it till now =D anyway, piano is basic in music? >.< is there such thing?
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omg...
im not alone...
nice...
hahaha..
im a bit better than u..
i can play simple piece... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(onelove89 @ Apr 10 2008, 10:28 PM)
yeah... we are all musicians ^^ anyway, i learn piano since 5, well mom ask me to give it a try and i tried it till now =D anyway, piano is basic in music? >.< is there such thing?
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because piano use a combination of both left and right hand. as u see cleary on intervals, u dont understand chord proggresion, as understanding how minor,major,augmented,diminished sounds like. as u understnad the semitone diffrence of each key. and triad of each chords.

a person who only plays the violin doesnt understnad the left hand part or maybe chord proggresion unless he/she does further research.

haiz......lazy type, u do brainstorm, u should understand
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omg...
im not alone...
nice...
hahaha..
im a bit better than u..
i can play simple piece... tongue.gif
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hehe that's why i'm into midi programing. brows.gif

sort of like cheating. sweat.gif icon_idea.gif
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i did compose a song once with midi programming. sounded decent but i accidentaly made it too hard for myself to play lol. anyone wants to try ? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(x-crusader @ Apr 10 2008, 09:30 PM)
i said im a noob pianist coz...
i've been learning piano for over 15 yrs...
but my skills still.... doh.gif
but still...
we r musicians...
so thr is no noob or pro...
juz music lovers...
hahahaha
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QUOTE(little ice @ Apr 10 2008, 10:13 PM)
i've been playing piano for 20 years, and I still can't perfectly play a simple piece, even a pop song. sweat.gif

you're not alone. icon_idea.gif
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It depends what do you mean by "noob", if you're talking about playing ability, then it's usualyl about practice and familiarisation with the piano/keyboard.

If you're talking about music understandings, etc. and you want to be able to play contemporary/pop songs, able to understand how it works, etc, you might want to visit "Play By Ear" for a preview/demo on their course. They teach you music using the keyboard/piano, launching beginner eletric guitar instruments soon, but their main subject is teaching music, how to capture melody by ear, catch the chords in the song and also creating the chords based on the medody. Playing music is about hearing and feeling.

I know some will be skeptical or be negative about it, but I'm just sharing with everyone that there is such a course, and worth to have a look at. They're on the papers a few times, featured in Malaysia Books of Records for the founders wedding with over 60 pianist playing, they even have a Datin which graduated their level 2 course. Recently, they're also recognize by the London School Of Music (I think) and you can actually get cert and recognized playing contemporary songs without notes.
Recently, I went for their Music Festival for guitar launch, was so touched they have a blind student play on stage. The playing was so smooth and never hit a wrong key, he only learned for about 2 years.
Somehow even tough there're students which play more complicated songs and arrangements, but the music played by the blind student was way better, more feel and oomph. Maybe that's what truly playing by hearing and feeling.

QUOTE(onelove89 @ Apr 10 2008, 10:28 PM)
yeah... we are all musicians ^^ anyway, i learn piano since 5, well mom ask me to give it a try and i tried it till now =D anyway, piano is basic in music? >.< is there such thing?
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Piano is an instruments. It's easy to begin with but very (if not extremely) difficult to master. IMO, it's the 2nd most powerful instruments, the 1st being the Organ. Tough, I read many site saying piano is "arguably" the most powerful instruments.


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It depends what do you mean by "noob", if you're talking about playing ability, then it's usualyl about practice and familiarisation with the piano/keyboard.

If you're talking about music understandings, etc. and you want to be able to play contemporary/pop songs, able to understand how it works, etc, you might want to visit "Play By Ear" for a preview/demo on their course. They teach you music using the keyboard/piano, launching beginner eletric guitar instruments soon, but their main subject is teaching music, how to capture melody by ear,  catch the chords in the song and also creating the chords based on the medody. Playing music is about hearing and feeling.

I know some will be skeptical or be negative about it, but I'm just sharing with everyone that there is such a course, and worth to have a look at. They're on the papers a few times, featured in Malaysia Books of Records for the founders wedding with over 60 pianist playing, they even have a Datin which graduated their level 2 course. Recently, they're also recognize by the London School Of Music (I think) and you can actually get cert and recognized playing contemporary songs without notes.
Recently, I went for their Music Festival for guitar launch, was so touched they have a blind student play on stage. The playing was so smooth and never hit a wrong key, he only learned for about 2 years.
Somehow even tough there're students which play more complicated songs and arrangements, but the music played by the blind student was way better, more feel and oomph. Maybe that's what truly playing by hearing and feeling.
Piano is an instruments. It's easy to begin with but very (if not extremely) difficult to master. IMO, it's the 2nd most powerful instruments, the 1st being the Organ. Tough, I read many site saying piano is "arguably" the most powerful instruments.
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why everytime got piano thread u advertise ur bussniss doh.gif  doh.gif

anyway, WElcome to the cword Andy214!
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Wa lao, what my business. I'm also a student only. I was just recommending to people, sharing what we have. Aisheh man, so charm, sharing things but kena say as advertise pulak. doh.gif doh.gif
Plus, I'm impressed that the founder created this formula/course and he's a Malaysian, now recognized in UK Music School. They also have a very good ex-guitarist and now Jerry Felix the drummer in their team.

I never even ask anyone to promote my name to the centre which I could get discount if I invite people. rclxub.gif
Sharing things become being advertising.... never even I get any benefit from it... rclxub.gif

Anyway, I just hope many people would have more fun learning music... icon_rolleyes.gif
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yamaha courses are pretty good on play by ears. they don't advertise as such but they do train your ears as part of their courses. they're especially useful if you train since small kid. smile.gif

andy would you roughly describe what kind of stuffs Play By Ears will teach?
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yamaha courses are pretty good on play by ears. they don't advertise as such but they do train your ears as part of their courses. they're especially useful if you train since small kid. smile.gif

andy would you roughly describe what kind of stuffs Play By Ears will teach?
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Well, let's be fair, all courses are good. It all falls in each persons need and views.

The "Play By Ear" course I mentioned was meant for contemporary/pop songs. For those who wish to learn classical would not be suitable but of course you can also took up both.

There're many types of modern teaching methods which are suitable for contemporary songs, this "Play By Ear" is just another, but it is founded by our own local Malaysian, and he has created many proven formula and teaching method.

Basically, this "Play By Ear" teaches you music, how to capture melody, creating chords based on melody, feeling and hearing, etc via an instrument, currently the Piano/Keyboard, and soon to be available eletric and bass guitar.
You don't learn notes, of course you can learn, but you don't rely on notes. For in depth note reading and sight reading, you'll have to pickup yourself but it isn't recommended in the course as they don't encourage you to read notes.
How they teach you is to let you listen to a song, and you learn how to create the melody and they slowly "GUIDE" you how to understand and creating chords.

The 1st level will only have 20 classes, teaching you the 3 major chord mainly, which is enough to play many songs. They also allow you to choose 1 or 2 song of your own and they'll guide you on how to go play it, create your own arrangement, styles, etc.

Level 2 is more on bassing ideas, accompaniment, etc. In level 2 you'll learn about all other chords, but it's tough for me as yuo'll start to learn a lot on the left hand bassing idea, which I believe many have trouble with the left hand. You'll also learn many different styles like Latin, Jazz, etc...

I haven't take up Level 3 yet, personally, I feel my playing isn't smooth and good enough. Because of that, I'm struggling in level 2 trying to coordinate both my left and right hands. But I can say level 2 open up a lot of possibilities and more in depth understanding, much much more than Level 1. Level 1 is more for total beginners, but you explore many different style of playing, arrangements and they let you be creative and create your own style for each song. So for each song, you'll see different style from each person, which is nice.

If you want to know more, just inquire for a preview, they don't charge you anyway. They also have a VCD explaining about their courses, etc.

Anyway, it's an interesting to find out and learn, I just want to share it out and hope more people can learn music in their own fun way. For me, I love to play contemporary songs, or should say, when I listen to a song, I feel like playing it on the piano. This course is very suitable for me.

There're also some which has dropped out from conventional piano lessons which they find no interest mainly because they wanted to play contemporary songs only but they hardly get a chance to understand and play, also some which has been confused, once took up the course for few classes, suddenly everything become so clear. So, for this, I can say, the have learnt a lot but they need someone who can help them fix the puzzle.
So maybe for those having problem after years of learning, might want have a look at it and then decide.

Anybody watch Mr. Holland Opus? It was recommended by the founder, I watch it and was very touched by it. Here's some of the quote from the movie:

"Playing music is supposed to be fun. It's about heart, it's about feelings, moving people, and something beautiful, and it's not about notes on a page. I can teach you notes on a page, I can't teach you that other stuff. "

"A teacher has two jobs; fill young minds with knowledge, yes, but more important, give those minds a compass so that that knowledge doesn't go to waste."

"If You Can't Teach a Willing Student Like Louis Russ to Bang a Drum, Then You Are a Lousy Teacher"!

The story is about a composer who needed money and became a teacher, at first he has no passion or heart to teach, but soon, he changed and become someone who has changed many lives, but given up his dream of being a composer. There's a scene where he try to help a girl having problem with her clarinet, where he finally found she's not having fun and very stressed, hence the 1st quote above.


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omg...
andy...
so long lazy read...
but i saw the 'play by ear'...
this is a skill tat is very hard to manage...

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omg...
andy...
so long lazy read...
but i saw the 'play by ear'...
this is a skill tat is very hard to manage...
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actually is kinda easy to me wo.
i just listen to a singing song(eg jaychou) bout 2 times, hum it out, already can paly the song main melody, then listen to the third time, already can play it the chord.

if piano song 1 time sapu all!
so the "play by ear" course actually not hard and not required la.

but wait........i got yamaha course and piano course since i was 3:sweat:
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yup i can do that too.

actually learning from young lets you develop that 'skill' naturally.
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QUOTE(icypetals @ Apr 11 2008, 11:37 PM)
but wait........i got yamaha course and piano course since i was 3:sweat:
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i'm yamaha trained too. biggrin.gif

yeah i find play by ear is quite easy too. never regret i took yamaha course since i was a small kid. thumbup.gif

and thanks andy for elaborating the course. notworthy.gif

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playing by ear is kinda nice. but i'm trying to push myself even further by identifying the exact chords, the position of the chords and the exacts notes. kinda hard, but it improves ur hearing and knowledge. u guys should try it out too.
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playing by ear is kinda nice. but i'm trying to push myself even further by identifying the exact chords, the position of the chords and the exacts notes. kinda hard, but it improves ur hearing and knowledge. u guys should try it out too.
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exact chords and notes? yup, i do that!

the simples way to get the exact chord is follow this format
1) first if it is a C sounding chord, u play C G C, u dont need care whether its Minor or major.
2) next u find the root of the chord, eg C/G
3) later only u find out wheteher there is a suspension or augmented,dimmished, diatonic, etc etc blah blah

joining yamaha courses improve ur hearing,sight reading etc etc but not ur piano skill
joining piano courses improves ur playing skill

Some who join piano course can play from sheet but terrible at hearing
some who join yamaha course have good hearing but bad piano playing

a combination of both= whistling.gif
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QUOTE(icypetals @ Apr 12 2008, 01:43 PM)
a combination of both= whistling.gif
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somehow i think we're alike, i took both yamaha and AB together. laugh.gif

pity my father have to pay twice along with piano and books and time and petrol and...my father is my hero!! thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(little ice @ Apr 12 2008, 03:11 PM)
somehow i think we're alike, i took both yamaha and AB together. laugh.gif

pity my father have to pay twice along with piano and books and time and petrol and...my father is my hero!! thumbup.gif
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my classes schelude are all together XD 12pm-3pm ( lol, non-stop )
12-1pm= yamaha
1-2pm= theory
2-3pm= pratical

LOL...

my fees my mom see want to do, especially 2 months-3months never pay.

U count:-
yamaha fees( higher musician course) rm180
grd 8- rm150( if not wrong)
violin X2( double lesson) rm120
rm450 per month ( excluding books XD)
ahahhaa, rm450 for small town in kedah, imagine if i live in KL, my parents will be dead in debts XD
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QUOTE(icypetals @ Apr 12 2008, 04:30 PM)
rm450 per month ( excluding books XD)
ahahhaa, rm450 for small town in kedah, imagine if i live in KL, my parents will be dead in debts XD
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eh last time +electric guitar fees is rm520+++ LOL
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whoa~ hmm... my most expensive time was when i was learning violin and piano dipl. piano = rm220 per month, violin beginners around rm60? haha~ xD so its rm280.
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QUOTE(icypetals @ Apr 11 2008, 11:37 PM)
actually is kinda easy to me wo.
i just listen to a singing song(eg jaychou) bout 2 times, hum it out, already can paly the song main melody, then listen to the third time, already can play it the chord.

if piano song 1 time sapu all!
so the "play by ear" course actually not hard and not required la.

but wait........i got yamaha course and piano course  since i was 3:sweat:
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i knw its easy...
coz i can do it too...
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i juz dunno how to teach those who ask me...
this is the hard thing... tongue.gif
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i can play by ear too~ yay! well, i learned it thru playing piano in church haha~ slowly you'll get an idea of what chords and the left hand accompaniment of a certain pattern. somehow.
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i knw its easy...
coz i can do it too...
XD
i juz dunno how to teach those who ask me...
this is the hard thing... tongue.gif
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haha, when my friends ask me how, after 10min of explaining. they reply with a "huh?".

LOL. hearing must be train and not to be taught by words XD

QUOTE(onelove89 @ Apr 14 2008, 11:44 AM)
i can play by ear too~ yay! well, i learned it thru playing piano in church haha~ slowly you'll get an idea of what chords and the left hand accompaniment of a certain pattern. somehow.
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yup, cause they singing songs are only co-existing as 2 keys : major and minor.
when they are major sounding, usually they are root chords or major chords, I, IV, V
when they are singing minor, it is III, VI

usually a song chord cadence goes like this, I-VI( major to minor), I-V(major to major), III-VI( minor to minor), IV-V, VI-IV etc etc

Example
C Am
i saw a monkey, jump over the wall
F G
i saw a monkey Jump

chorus

Am F
i took a stick, and poke it down

C G
well, that is the end of the song
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QUOTE(icypetals @ Apr 14 2008, 03:02 PM)
yup, cause they singing songs are only co-existing as 2 keys : major and minor.
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what are you trying to say, exactly? rolleyes.gif
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what are you trying to say, exactly? rolleyes.gif
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im saying in a scale only got major or minor sounding ma XD so if not major sound means minor sound lo XD

lol

I ii iii IV V vi vii


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QUOTE(icypetals @ Apr 12 2008, 04:30 PM)
my classes schelude are all together XD 12pm-3pm ( lol, non-stop )
12-1pm= yamaha
1-2pm= theory
2-3pm= pratical

LOL...

my fees my mom see want to do, especially 2 months-3months never pay.

U count:-
yamaha fees( higher musician course) rm180
grd 8- rm150( if not wrong)
violin X2( double lesson) rm120
rm450 per month ( excluding books XD)
ahahhaa, rm450 for small town in kedah, imagine if i live in KL, my parents will be dead in debts XD
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tat expensive???? shocking.gif  shocking.gif  rclxub.gif
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wat to do. music education is expensive.
i already minus guitar fees lol. everytime my mom nv pay 2-3month, she see the bill want to faint
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QUOTE(icypetals @ Apr 14 2008, 09:17 PM)
wat to do. music education is expensive.
i already minus guitar fees lol. everytime my mom nv pay 2-3month, she see the bill want to faint
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So once again I continue my words here. Those fees goes into music teachers and the school. Those music teachers usually are on diploma level or grade 8.

Why degree?

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QUOTE(icypetals @ Apr 14 2008, 09:17 PM)
wat to do. music education is expensive.
i already minus guitar fees lol. everytime my mom nv pay 2-3month, she see the bill want to faint
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self learn loh..
then cheap..
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QUOTE(Cello @ Apr 14 2008, 10:24 PM)
Why degree?
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my teacher is charging RM120 per hour (yes! per hour/per lesson), as a normal fees for a master degree graduates. he teach privately though, and he IS really a good teacher.

go get yours. icon_rolleyes.gif

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omg...
so expensive..
really really expensive...
its better for me to go for music course in university..
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QUOTE(little ice @ Apr 14 2008, 10:55 PM)
my teacher is charging RM120 per hour (yes! per hour/per lesson), as a normal fees for a master degree graduates. he teach privately though, and he IS really a good teacher.

go get yours. icon_rolleyes.gif
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Okay, that is a lot but I am also getting around that much in two days. After all, I still say no. I have my target. It is not about money or easy living.


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omg...
so expensive..
really really expensive...
its better for me to go for music course in university..
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I think you need to calculate again. It is around that amount as well.

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I think you need to calculate again. It is around that amount as well.
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ya. during my study in college last time, if split the yearly fees into 12 months, my parents were looking at rm1000 per month.

mind you that's not even a degree. icon_question.gif

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Conclusions:

1. You know that everything in this country is expensive. Not just education.
2. Never think of getting diploma, degree or whatever. Just as long as you can play music nicely.

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QUOTE(Cello @ Apr 14 2008, 11:17 PM)

2. Never think of getting diploma, degree or whatever. Just as long as you can play music nicely.

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i disagree with this. studying in college or uni will have more inputs than average music students. it's not the cert one going to aim, it's the environment.

how often you got to perform in front of everybody AND watching your fellow classmates perform so you can learn from each other? how about learning chamber music, orchestra, deep study of theory, extensive ear training, history, choir? yes, you can learn it by yourself, but you won't get as much inputs (and as fast) as learning alone than studying in group. wink.gif

certs and qualifications are definitely not wasting money if you consider the above statement. it IS yougster today who want to target the cert cause they can earn more money, thus making the cert looks ugly nowadays. doh.gif
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QUOTE(little ice @ Apr 14 2008, 11:27 PM)
i disagree with this. studying in college or uni will have more inputs than average music students. it's not the cert one going to aim, it's the environment.

how often you got to perform in front of everybody AND watching your fellow classmates perform so you can learn from each other? how about learning chamber music, orchestra, deep study of theory, extensive ear training, history, choir? yes, you can learn it by yourself, but you won't get as much inputs (and as fast) as learning alone than studying in group. wink.gif 

certs and qualifications are definitely not wasting money if you consider the above statement. it IS yougster today who want to target the cert cause they can earn more money, thus making the cert looks ugly nowadays. doh.gif
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Good comment. I am saying that because..I think you know. Basically a lot of people thinks that getting a diploma will get a good future or something. Thus, I saw a lot of graduated diplomas are still playing badly, I do not want to expose their college name here.

For the bolded sentences on your quote, I can tell you it is about 90% of the people I have met in my life.

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So once again I continue my words here. Those fees goes into music teachers and the school. Those music teachers usually are on diploma level or grade 8.

Why degree?

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my music teacher studied in london. he encorage me to strive hard to excel. do not close ourself in a small enviroment. Expose more. Anne perreau gave me the same advice too.
QUOTE(little ice @ Apr 14 2008, 11:27 PM)
i disagree with this. studying in college or uni will have more inputs than average music students. it's not the cert one going to aim, it's the environment.

how often you got to perform in front of everybody AND watching your fellow classmates perform so you can learn from each other? how about learning chamber music, orchestra, deep study of theory, extensive ear training, history, choir? yes, you can learn it by yourself, but you won't get as much inputs (and as fast) as learning alone than studying in group. wink.gif 

certs and qualifications are definitely not wasting money if you consider the above statement. it IS yougster today who want to target the cert cause they can earn more money, thus making the cert looks ugly nowadays. doh.gif
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i highly agree on that!
studying overseas birngs more knowlege of music comparing than learning only in malaysia.
we are expose more, we meet more people, and we learn new things.
We meet great teachers in oversea college/uni.

We must strive for our best to enter great colleges and university.
doing only diploma wont get u more knowlege comparing to studying oversea college/uni.
QUOTE(Cello @ Apr 14 2008, 11:35 PM)
Good comment. I am saying that because..I think you know. Basically a lot of people thinks that getting a diploma will get a good future or something. Thus, I saw a lot of graduated diplomas are still playing badly, I do not want to expose their college name here.

For the bolded sentences on your quote, I can tell you it is about 90% of the people I have met in my life.

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why do we need to bother about those diploma who can play? that is their problem.
I seen many grd 8 and diploma who cant play.

but why compare ourself to those who cant play, when we need to compare ourself to the best?
if we do so, we will strive for the best we can!


cello, please take this opinion of mine seriously, :" studying oversea college/uni will really bring us much closer to understanding of music and enhancing our passion, bringing us to a new level of knowlege, and understanding a new enviroment, and meeting new people."

its not about the cert, the cert certify that we suceeded thats all, is what we learn that counts!

why do you bother bout the other 90% what we need to do for ourself is important!

that 90% might be becuase their parents force them to learn or anything else, why do we need to care?

Is like going to school, where 70% of your freind dont like to study and dont want go college, does that stop you from going collge?


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i highly agree on that!
studying overseas birngs more knowlege of music comparing than learning only in malaysia.
we are expose more, we meet more people, and we learn new things.
We meet great teachers in oversea college/uni.

We must strive for our best to enter great colleges and university.
doing only diploma wont get u more knowlege comparing to studying oversea college/uni.
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yes and there's one more thing i lefted out. studying in college/uni you get to compete with each other, in a good way of course (you don't compare, but you compete). most importantly, someone who can put pressure on you - those who're better than you but you're meeting him/her everyday cause he/she's your teacher or even your classmate lol! you have a target, your target is no longer a paper, it's a person.

you can argue that you have your favourite pianist who's world class virtuoso whos better than anyone you've seen. but what are the chances that you can learn from him? in college/uni, you got to meet them everyday - you can disucss about music all day long, learn from each other every seconds. it's the school that bring you and the pros together. it's the environment that matters.

that said, it's such a high price to pay. $$$ doh.gif
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QUOTE(little ice @ Apr 15 2008, 02:37 PM)
yes and there's one more thing i lefted out. studying in college/uni you get to compete with each other, in a good way of course (you don't compare, but you compete). most importantly, someone who can put pressure on you - those who're better than you but you're meeting him/her everyday cause he/she's your teacher or even your classmate lol! you have a target, your target is no longer a paper, it's a person.

you can argue that you have your favourite pianist who's world class virtuoso whos better than anyone you've seen. but what are the chances that you can learn from him? in college/uni, you got to meet them everyday - you can disucss about music all day long, learn from each other every seconds. it's the school that bring you and the pros together. it's the environment that matters.

that said, it's such a high price to pay. $$$ doh.gif
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agree on that.

my mom told me last time that some bosses dont care what you study, as long u have a firm basic education and a come from a good college/uni, they will accept you.
I ask why?

she said that it is because those students are more expose to the world, they are more sociallable, they have meet many people in their life, they can take risk, they know how to work in a team, and they understand all sorts of thing which a person who nv enter college/uni knows.

that wats makes a college/uni student special and difrent.

my mom works in bank. so she selects ppl from interview.
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QUOTE(icypetals @ Apr 15 2008, 02:57 PM)
my mom told me last time that some bosses dont care what you study, as long u have a firm basic education and a come from a good college/uni, they will accept you.
I ask why?

she said that it is because those students are more expose to the world, they are more sociallable, they have meet many people in their life, they can take risk, they know how to work in a team, and they understand all sorts of thing which a person who nv enter college/uni knows.

that wats makes a college/uni student special and difrent.

my mom works in bank. so she selects ppl from interview.
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i'm afraid it was last time. sweat.gif

it used to take a lot more effort to graduate from uni/college, but not anymore. more parents can afford expensive fees and living expenses for their childrens. students are more likely to go for long vacations rather than suffer from study pressures. more over, college/uni don't care how bad you do, as long as you give enough money they'll let you hold the cert (of course, not to the extent that if student fail miserably also can become pass). doh.gif
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QUOTE(little ice @ Apr 15 2008, 06:04 PM)
i'm afraid it was last time. sweat.gif

it used to take a lot more effort to graduate from uni/college, but not anymore. more parents can afford expensive fees and living expenses for their childrens. students are more likely to go for long vacations rather than suffer from study pressures. more over, college/uni don't care how bad you do, as long as you give enough money they'll let you hold the cert (of course, not to the extent that if student fail miserably also can become pass). doh.gif
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well, i guess its last time too laugh.gif
cause my mom said this when i was standard 3 or something XD

Based on her experince i think
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May learn the piano in the future.


My favourite pieces for piano is no other than Rachmaninov's Piano Concerto No.2 and 3 tongue.gif
I also listen to Chopin's Waltz.


Anyone here can play a piano concerto or any Franz Liszt's Etude? sweat.gif
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May learn the piano in the future.
My favourite pieces for piano is no other than Rachmaninov's Piano Concerto No.2 and 3  tongue.gif
I also listen to Chopin's Waltz.
Anyone here can play a piano concerto or any Franz Liszt's Etude? sweat.gif
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wow rclxms.gif
A romantic and classical listener rclxms.gif !!
these days not many ppl listen to chopins and rach!!!

good luck learning the piano in the future! highly recomend!!!

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QUOTE(icypetals @ Apr 15 2008, 08:30 PM)
wow rclxms.gif
A romantic and classical listener rclxms.gif !!
these days not many ppl listen to chopins and rach!!!

good luck learning the piano in the future! highly recomend!!!

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Actually I am more of a Baroque and Romantic period listener..
Depending on my mood, I choose between different composers and periods.

May try to feel Classical Period songs in the future sweat.gif


Currently listening to a 20th century piece by Dmitri Shostakovich.
"Piano Concerto No.2 in F"


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This is a MUST see....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntReE2n15bo

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omg i'm so touched. cry.gif

damn she's just 5 years old, best age to start training liao lo, she'll become a legendary musician!! she IS little mozart!!
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so touch...........almost cry. cry.gif
she really is what ppl define as a "prodigy".

a real life angel from heaven .

she was not scared even on stage or tv!

no offense but wondering, they didnt mention something, where did she first play the piano when her parents dont know music?
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QUOTE(icypetals @ Apr 17 2008, 02:51 PM)
so touch...........almost cry. cry.gif
she really is what ppl define as a "prodigy".

a real life angel from heaven .

she was not scared even on stage or tv!

no offense but wondering, they didnt mention something, where did she first play the piano when her parents dont know music?
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She's adopted,... the foster parents cannot conceive...
She first played on the piano when her foster mother sing her favourite song. She was 3 then. Really true born talent... unbelievable...

More touching is the ending part, the song she sing, she dedicate to herself? "You were born to be loved"... so touching... I think she cried too when she sings, so unbelivable that a 5 year old kid can feel so much and think like an adult. Amazing!!!

The girl judge (is she a judge?), LoL, was so impressed like she wanted to adopt the kid...

There's another video, the 9th episode, she appear again, this time she plays and the judges (I think) all surrounds her and sings while she plays. One of the guy cannot stand crying, gosh... so amazing...

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Apr 17 2008, 05:38 PM)
She's adopted,... the foster parents cannot conceive...
She first played on the piano when her foster mother sing her favourite song. She was 3 then. Really true born talent... unbelievable...

More touching is the ending part, the song she sing, she dedicate to herself? "You were born to be loved"... so touching... I think she cried too when she sings, so unbelivable that a 5 year old kid can feel so much and think like an adult. Amazing!!!

The girl judge (is she a judge?), LoL, was so impressed like she wanted to adopt the kid...

There's another video, the 9th episode, she appear again, this time she plays and the judges (I think) all surrounds her and sings while she plays. One of the guy cannot stand crying, gosh... so amazing...
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ya ,i was like.....OMG...........its incredible. i saved up the video and showed it to my friends on my psp.
its just incredibly to have such beautiful gifts. eventhou she lack something, she was given something far more better!


Added on April 18, 2008, 9:29 pmanybody can share with me nice cadenza for me to play?

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Hi everyone,
Thanks to little ice for introducing this thread to me biggrin.gif
I will be having my grade 5 piano ABRSM around the corner laugh.gif

I don't know if it is appropriate but I would like to share a few links with you guys some websites with lots of piano scores happy.gif
http://www.gamingforce.org/forums/50-musician-s-library/ <- my favorite!
http://amusic.uni.cc/ <- lots of Asian piano score in *.ove and MIDI
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hey guys, i've recorded a new video of myself playing.

this song is Somewhere in Time; solo version as played by Maksim


criticism is needed and comments on how to improve it is requested nod.gif

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Just to share:

Play By Ear Graduation 2005:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgJIFk3AY30

This "Play By Ear" course or method are meant for contemporary/pop songs, for classical, one still has to go through the conventional piano classes.

Video Info:
The graduates are either Level 1 or Level 2 mostly (which both consist of 20 classes each, or maximum 1 year period for each).

The girl wearing specs playing the chinese instruments tune, during my class last year, I saw her at the centre, she's working as a part time music coach already.


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QUOTE(befitozi @ Apr 21 2008, 02:14 AM)
hey guys, i've recorded a new video of myself playing.

this song is Somewhere in Time; solo version as played by Maksimcriticism is needed and comments on how to improve it is requested  nod.gif
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Its perfect except for the left hand seems too loud.

or maybe because the camera is place too near to the left hand hmm.gif


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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Apr 21 2008, 02:41 AM)
Just to share:

Play By Ear Graduation 2005:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgJIFk3AY30

This "Play By Ear" course or method are meant for contemporary/pop songs, for classical, one still has to go through the conventional piano classes.

Video Info:
The graduates are either Level 1 or Level 2 mostly (which both consist of 20 classes each, or maximum 1 year period for each).

The girl wearing specs playing the chinese instruments tune, during my class last year, I saw her at the centre, she's working as a part time music coach already.
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wow, not bad icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(icypetals @ Apr 21 2008, 03:56 PM)
Its perfect except for the left hand seems too loud.

or maybe because the camera is place too near to the left hand hmm.gif
I blame it on the state of my piano.

the keys are somehow hard to control as in when i try to play it very soft ... either no sounds come out or the key jerks and hit the string hard which makes a loud sound .

anyone know bout this problem? or could it be just an excuse for me tongue.gif
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anyone know bout this problem? or could it be just an excuse for me  tongue.gif
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piano does have behaviour. a really good (and well maintained) piano can do ppp to fff. that's why expensive piano like steinway still popular, not just the sound is great, it's also the dynamic control that make a difference too.

oh and there's the difference between grand piano and upright piano too. compared to upright piano, grand piano has the advantage of gravity pulling the hammer so the action is more sensitive (ever wonder why you can't do very fast repetition note on upright piano?). laugh.gif
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Speaking about piano, I'm currently using a digital piano but planning to switch to an upright piano.

Which brand is recommended if I want to get a piano with sightly heavy key? The reason is that I want to build my finger's strength since its very week because I'm using a digital piano ever since I started playing cry.gif

If my budget is around 5-6k, would I able to get a new good one? Any recommendations? icon_question.gif
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some of the brand new or 2nd hand kawai are pretty good at your price range. yamaha normally sounds harsh but sometimes you can also get some good deals on 2nd hand yamaha (brand new yamaha is normally out of your budget sweat.gif ).

you just have to look for the piano. travel to various place which sell pianos, and try them out.
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my second hand piano is a yamaha and is 10k. i think i bought it like 7-8 years ago.
my piano keys are damn heavy and hard, so when i go lesson, the piano are way easier to play, which is a good thing.

is all based on prefernce, test before buy
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dun get kawailar....... the piano cacatlar....... i dun like yamaha also. Too light. Go get pianos like petrof and challen or some european brand. or u can get some 2nd hand japanese piano tat is non-yamaha.

piano keys heavy? great for improving and increasing finger strength, believe me, u will benefit from it. when u wanna have that coax out tones from a piano, you need to press more, there is when the finger strength comes in place. just my 2 cents
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Wow Yamaha piano second hand also 10k ohmy.gif
What's so cacat about Kawai? Many people say that Kawai is a very good brand blink.gif
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Many people say that Kawai is a very good brand  blink.gif
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i've played quite a lot of kawai upright piano in the 5k~6k range. definitely can buy. if piano become cacat most probably the owner didn't maintain the piano well. nod.gif
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QUOTE(Momotaro Kun @ Apr 22 2008, 08:43 PM)
Wow Yamaha piano second hand also 10k  ohmy.gif
What's so cacat about Kawai? Many people say that Kawai is a very good brand  blink.gif
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yamaha piano have always been expensive.

Yamah range is 10k++

kawai is 5k++

grand piano is 30k++
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i see that they have a lot of upright near your range, not sure why their price is so cheap too, cant find whether they state is new or 2nd hand too.

http://www.theguitarstore.com.my/index.php?m=news:id=63
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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Apr 23 2008, 02:37 AM)
i see that they have a lot of upright near your range, not sure why their price is so cheap too, cant find whether they state is new or 2nd hand too.

http://www.theguitarstore.com.my/index.php?m=news:id=63
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Thanks for the link!
Wow Yamaha so cheap shocking.gif

I think I'll go for Kawai since its keys are slightly heavier laugh.gif
I'll head to TGS and see, I know one at the opposite of Leisure Mall thumbup.gif
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Thanks for the link!
Wow Yamaha so cheap  shocking.gif

I think I'll go for Kawai since its keys are slightly heavier  laugh.gif
I'll head to TGS and see, I know one at the opposite of Leisure Mall  thumbup.gif
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actually, based on my OPINION.

yamaha keys are always heavier and harder than kawai.

yamaha piano have usually been better than kawai.

either way, both are very good piano except that yamaha is always more famous and more "Welcomed" around people.

anyway, dont listen to the crap the salesman talk to u, they will tell you shyt about the piano which they cant seell like, "THis has rich-tone, warm sound etc etc'

u dont listen to them and buy urself.

if u can buy straight from the boss( if u know any ), then u can skip the salesman's commision.

i recomend u buy from someone you know, or elsee they will potong ur neck
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Hi all,

I havent been touching my piano since I left australia for my tertiary education. I myself started piano late at 18 and only taken classes for around 1.5 years.

Learnt a lot of fundamental, played numerous song ( all kiddie song,grade 1,2) but really enjoyed the valuable experiences.

Nobuo Uematsu is the person inspired me for the late take up of piano, salute to him for the wonderful piece

Recently wanna have some life beside working, so thinking of warming up my skill again after like 5-6 years

Greatest achievement so far : Gau Theme from FFVI ( duration taken to learn : 6 months.... Not talented and started late)
Current piece : Jay Chou - Secret ( is it a good choice, can play around 70% fluent in page 1 at the moment after a week practice. Timing wise I am trying my best to capture, so sometime cannot properly transite.. Need advice on pedaling too, I lack of knowledge of that part.

Any advice from any sifu to bring me back to track slowly is needed. If you got some good practicing pieces, please kindly guide me.

I also noticed that theres no review of the music sheet so far by any sifus. So if possible, can you kindly comment on both gau and secret piece. I attached the file to be comment by anyone.

Cheers
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i always prefer kawai over yamaha, in fact most piano over yamaha based on personal preferences and not their piano is not good. used to take classes in a yamaha center not long ago and just stopped.

now i am all alone again with no tutor around to guide. Good tutor i meet stop teaching and tutor which is still teaching are teaching for sake of teaching only. that's what i felt.

they said you're grade 3 and ask you to pay the money, have you ever thought you have really reached that standard? teaching you to play a piece at that level doesn't mean you have already archived that standard.
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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Apr 23 2008, 11:28 AM)
i always prefer kawai over yamaha, in fact most piano over yamaha based on personal preferences and not their piano is not good. used to take classes in a yamaha center not long ago and just stopped.

now i am all alone again with no tutor around to guide. Good tutor i meet stop teaching and tutor which is still teaching are teaching for sake of teaching only. that's what i felt.

they said you're grade 3 and ask you to pay the money, have you ever thought you have really reached that standard? teaching you to play a piece at that level doesn't mean you have already archived that standard.
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I totally agree with your point
All of my music teachers are like "okay, from next month I will raise your fees" all of the sudden and I was like blink.gif
I've had few good teachers last time. They really planned a route and set a path for me but all of them left.
I wonder why good teachers always do this sad.gif they are really hard to come by.
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QUOTE(Kayne @ Apr 23 2008, 11:10 AM)
Hi all,

I havent been touching my piano since I left australia for my tertiary education. I myself started piano late at 18 and only taken classes for around 1.5 years.

Learnt a lot of fundamental, played numerous song ( all kiddie song,grade 1,2) but really enjoyed the valuable experiences.

Nobuo Uematsu is the person inspired me for the late take up of piano, salute to him for the wonderful piece

Recently wanna have some life beside working, so thinking of warming up my skill again after like 5-6 years

Greatest achievement so far : Gau Theme from FFVI ( duration taken to learn : 6 months.... Not talented and started late)
Current piece : Jay Chou - Secret ( is it a good choice, can play around 70% fluent in page 1 at the moment after a week practice. Timing wise I am trying my best to capture, so sometime cannot properly transite.. Need advice on pedaling too, I lack of knowledge of that part.

Any advice from any sifu to bring me back to track slowly is needed. If you got some good practicing pieces, please kindly guide me.

I also noticed that theres no review of the music sheet so far by any sifus. So if possible, can you kindly comment on both gau and secret piece. I attached the file to be comment by anyone.

Cheers
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welcome~~!!
if you want to improve, always play RIght hand, then play left hand. when both are good, then you can play them togther. is no point if u 1 time play both hand on the first try cause it will slow down your pratise.

manage your time and practise constantly everyday.
if u play 7 times a week X 365=2555 times u practise
if u practise 1 time a week in lesson X 365= you play 365 times per year.
if u draw a graft of tens years, u would be far mooooreee greater XD

anyway, god luck thumbup.gif


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QUOTE(Momotaro Kun @ Apr 23 2008, 01:44 PM)
I totally agree with your point
All of my music teachers are like "okay, from next month I will raise your fees" all of the sudden and I was like blink.gif
I've had few good teachers last time. They really planned a route and set a path for me but all of them left.
I wonder why good teachers always do this  sad.gif they are really hard to come by.
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i have a very good teacher so i never experince this thou.

he will take me to workshop like penang, alor star etc etc. if got time, he will take me arond places, all he will call people to give us workshop( he called anne perreau tat day, u dono her, then good luck finding out : here's a tips, she teachers and educate "prodigies").

Anyway, his a very good teacher, somemore next week ask me go down penang and take me kai kai for 1 day and he will discuss wat holds in the future, which college/uni to go in oversea etc etc.

lucky to get such a good teacher icon_rolleyes.gif

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i dun like kawai and yamahalar.......... now kawai mostly made in China and yamaha mostly made in indonesia......... so quality not so good.

TGS? u go there buy they will chop ur head. Go to Vienna Music and buy piano. They are specialist. Or u can buy from my piano tuner....... he reconds old piano. And HE TUNES PIANO without the STUPID TUNING MACHINE....... use pure hearing to tune.

hw bout ur piano tuners? mine is still old skool and old skool rock ( use ear instead of machine)

have u played on a Steinway and Sons piano b4? that's my dream piano......
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steinway only distributor in Malaysia is Bentley. extremely expensive i think.

i only come across old second kawai b4.. never tried new one before.. most thing nowadays are from China now. you cant say that everything from there sucks..

anywhere to get good music teacher?
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good music teacher? based on luck lol.

I know got 1 place good, Anne Perreau studio. their teacher are all proffesional. but i dont think they will deal with you, they train prodigies, and enter them for audition to get schoolarship to enter oversea university before the age of 13.

but they have the few best/or good teachers in malaysia who all obtain honours(first class upper) from oversea universities.
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QUOTE(Kayne @ Apr 23 2008, 11:10 AM)
Hi all,

I havent been touching my piano since I left australia for my tertiary education. I myself started piano late at 18 and only taken classes for around 1.5 years.

Learnt a lot of fundamental, played numerous song ( all kiddie song,grade 1,2) but really enjoyed the valuable experiences.

Nobuo Uematsu is the person inspired me for the late take up of piano, salute to him for the wonderful piece

Recently wanna have some life beside working, so thinking of warming up my skill again after like 5-6 years

Greatest achievement so far : Gau Theme from FFVI ( duration taken to learn : 6 months.... Not talented and started late)
Current piece : Jay Chou - Secret ( is it a good choice, can play around 70% fluent in page 1 at the moment after a week practice. Timing wise I am trying my best to capture, so sometime cannot properly transite.. Need advice on pedaling too, I lack of knowledge of that part.

Any advice from any sifu to bring me back to track slowly is needed. If you got some good practicing pieces, please kindly guide me.

I also noticed that theres no review of the music sheet so far by any sifus. So if possible, can you kindly comment on both gau and secret piece. I attached the file to be comment by anyone.

Cheers
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Wow your taste is same as mine!

I'm a big fan of Nobuo Uematsu too thumbup.gif I wish I could play some of the songs in FFIX Piano Collections

I am also a fan of Jay Chou laugh.gif but I haven't try playing Secret. Usually I release and press the pedal again for each bar, or whenever you hear the left hand chord changes (which will sound horrible if you keep the pedal pressed).

Since you could play Gau, I think Secret should not be a problem to you since the left hand part is repetitive. For the first page its best to memorize the pattern for your left hand. Notice that your thumb will follow this pattern over and over: G, F, G, A


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QUOTE([vogue]angel @ Apr 23 2008, 08:27 PM)
i dun like kawai and yamahalar.......... now kawai mostly made in China and yamaha mostly made in indonesia......... so quality not so good.

TGS? u go there buy they will chop ur head. Go to Vienna Music and buy piano. They are specialist. Or u can buy from my piano tuner....... he reconds old piano. And HE TUNES PIANO without the STUPID TUNING MACHINE....... use pure hearing to tune.

hw bout ur piano tuners? mine is still old skool and old skool rock ( use ear instead of machine)

have u played on a Steinway and Sons piano b4? that's my dream piano......
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You cant judge the quality based on the country its made. They usually produce products in a China because the cost is cheaper, cost like factory rental and the salary of the worker, but that does not mean that it is low quality. (Original Sony Playstation parts are made from China too laugh.gif )

Steinway & Sons is my dream piano too! Many performers I saw in youtube are using Steinway & Sons piano too. I saw somebody selling a second hand S&S grand piano for about RM130k ohmy.gif can buy one house already

Many people say that Yamaha is expensive because of its brand name, but not because of its quality. I wonder if its true

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I dont have problem playing left or right hand individually for the moment for all the 4 pages. Playing 2 hand together's progress is a bit slow cuz havent warm up properly due to many years didnt touch, those transition I still have to memorize a bit and timing didnt catch too well, but just a matter of time.

But pedaling.. totally suck at it. lol.. wonder why.. guess I need sometime to get myself back to track anyhow.. brain couldnt handle pedal+ 2 hand playing for the moment.

oh btw, I just download jay's secret MTV.... I noticed he didnt play GE,G,G,G ( opening)... the camera only play him playing GE only... and the guitar part lagi lame...
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QUOTE(Kayne @ Apr 24 2008, 07:49 AM)
I dont have problem playing left or right hand individually for the moment for all the 4 pages. Playing 2 hand together's progress is a bit slow cuz havent warm up properly due to many years didnt touch, those transition I still have to memorize a bit and timing didnt catch too well, but just a matter of time.

But pedaling.. totally suck at it. lol.. wonder why.. guess I need sometime to get myself back to track anyhow.. brain couldnt handle pedal+ 2 hand playing for the moment.

oh btw, I just download jay's secret MTV.... I noticed he didnt play GE,G,G,G ( opening)... the camera only play him playing GE only... and the guitar part lagi lame...
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i think jay played 1-2chords for guitar part in the mtv, so fake XD doh.gif
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I am not expert in guitar... but the way he hold the guitar and play...seem like just want to get the gaya only

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I am not expert in guitar... but the way he hold the guitar and play...seem like just want to get the gaya only
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yala...
who will play so seriously in a music video ohh...
not even jay la...
but the piano scene in the movie is awesome...
watch once..
haven notice it is playing in real or prerecorded sounds...
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QUOTE(x-crusader @ Apr 24 2008, 10:20 PM)
yala...
who will play so seriously in a music video ohh...
not even jay la...
but the piano scene in the movie is awesome...
watch once..
haven notice it is playing in real or prerecorded sounds...
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it was a recorded version. but they press the right key XD.

I can play the first and second battle song !! nv tried the third. my teacher stuff me with too much chopin and clementi rclxub.gif
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the third one ahh...
got 2 piano inside leh...
dunno how to play..
i got 1 person version's pieces..
but juz look at the notes....
and u will try to stay away from it...
very fast and very very very berry hard...XD

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get the 2 people version.

when they seperate it, it is clear that the piece is quite simple comparing to chopin XD

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Crazy la for the battle song....

Anyway, Who can play FFVI decisive battle here? and btw... is it ok for us to rearrange the sheet so that it is managable by our playing skill? sometime I really felt that the timing and transition very hard for a few piece

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woot..... didnt know got a Piano clan here.
nice meeting u all.. finished my grade 8 around 10 years ago tongue.gif .... semi-retired at the moment. now checking out some keyboard.. wanted to buy one. No chance to play piano since start working in KL.
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QUOTE(Kayne @ Apr 25 2008, 10:22 AM)
Crazy la for the battle song....

Anyway, Who can play FFVI decisive battle here? and btw... is it ok for us to rearrange the sheet so that it is managable by our playing skill? sometime I really felt that the timing and transition very hard for a few piece
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well, if u find that the song is hard, try to find out the left hand chord, and write it out "Dm, C, G7, F7" etc etc
then u can play the chord in any way that u are comfortable

sometime its nice to rearrange, then u will be good at improvising and u understanding chord better.
oh here is a tip for u: adding a suspension 9 note will sound nice in a chord.

EXAMPLE:
C chord

C E G

you can play

C E G C D E G( broken chord)

get the pont rolleyes.gif ?


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woot..... didnt know got a Piano clan here. 
nice meeting u all.. finished my grade 8 around 10 years ago tongue.gif .... semi-retired at the moment. now checking out some keyboard.. wanted to buy one. No chance to play piano since start working in KL.
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No worriews, good luck finding thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(Kayne @ Apr 25 2008, 10:22 AM)
Crazy la for the battle song....

Anyway, Who can play FFVI decisive battle here? and btw... is it ok for us to rearrange the sheet so that it is managable by our playing skill? sometime I really felt that the timing and transition very hard for a few piece
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I usually simplify the piece if is too hard to play but I wanted to play that song badly laugh.gif
I don't really like to do this because you'll need to play a harder song in order to advance
But if I love that song and wanted to play it badly, thats a different story tongue.gif
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haha true that. guess I will take my time and learn it up slowly, the hard part is the speed, let me slow everything down by 50-100%, I am sure I can play it

then gradually increase my playing speed
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QUOTE(Kayne @ Apr 27 2008, 12:56 PM)
haha true that. guess I will take my time and learn it up slowly, the hard part is the speed, let me slow everything down by 50-100%, I am sure I can play it

then gradually increase my playing speed
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Speed would not be a big problem.
Like you did, play slowly, in a speed where you do not have to pause in between bars or phrases (important!)
Play using a metronome to make sure your timing is exact laugh.gif
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haha true that. guess I will take my time and learn it up slowly, the hard part is the speed, let me slow everything down by 50-100%, I am sure I can play it

then gradually increase my playing speed
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when i play fast no mistake.

i play slow mistake everywhere

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when i play fast no mistake.

i play slow mistake everywhere

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do you consider unevenness and inconsistent a mistake?
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arrggh...
i play slow or fast oso got alot of mistake ahh...
*blame myself for not touching the piano for almost 3 yrs*
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QUOTE(little ice @ Apr 27 2008, 01:43 PM)
do you consider unevenness and inconsistent a mistake?
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nay, when i ply slow i think too much, its my finger curve enuf, atticulate enuf, is my hand relax etc etc. too much on my mind until like that. unsure.gif

but when i play fast,im enjoying myself, enjoying the music, and loving evey moment of it, so no tension and the fingers are relax.


Added on April 27, 2008, 11:02 pmwanted to share this anime which my music teacher told me.

its called La Corda d'oro
is a anime which primary story is music
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and no, they dont play pop songs XD
summary: 1 daY a girl who donno how to play violin gets a violin from a fiary which she can play any tune she hears on it.

the show features alot of song like chopin,edward, mendelsson, thaikoscky, shumann, bach etc etc.

its a anime which is brings deep thoughts of music appreciation and brings a whole new crowd to appreciate classical music!

i watch it on youtube but u can catch it on animax every wednesday

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QUOTE(icypetals @ Apr 27 2008, 10:47 PM)
wanted to share this anime which my music teacher told me.

its called La Corda d'oro
is a anime which primary story is music
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and no, they dont play pop songs XD
summary: 1 daY a girl who donno how to play violin gets a violin from a fiary which she can play any tune she hears on it.

the show features alot of song like chopin,edward, mendelsson, thaikoscky, shumann, bach etc etc.

its a anime which is brings deep thoughts of music appreciation and brings a whole new crowd to appreciate classical music!

i watch it on youtube but u can catch it on animax every wednesday
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Wow thanks! It happens that I was looking for some anime/movie for some inspiration.
I will definitely watch it! Too bad I don't have Astro. I guess I'll have to tor-*cough*-rent it tongue.gif

I just got my hands on Nodame Cantabile today, its on 8tv before but I missed it.
Its about a guy who plays the piano by reading score paired with a girl, which is totally opposite, who plays by ear.
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You can watch it here: MySoju.com
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heh, inconsistency and evenness is not good, timing and transition is important

icy, I think you pro liao la, just like I play rock fever or keyboard maniac (arcade music machine)...I cant play slow.. must go as fast as possible.

Yeah slowly increase speed lo..

dont have a metronome so I downloaded its midi and play via PSP while practicing, lol.. technology innovation

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Other good recommended video:
Mr. Holland's Opus

See how a composer struggles to teach his students music, how he become a good dedicated teacher in the end.
Also, how he solves students having problem learning music / playing instruments.

Another China movie about a boy who can play Violin:
"Together"
I watch this once on Astro with English Voice Sub.
The boy plays by his heart and feelings, while another girl who can play very well but just doesn't have it.

I can't find these 2 video at our local stores.

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QUOTE(Momotaro Kun @ Apr 28 2008, 12:58 AM)
Wow thanks! It happens that I was looking for some anime/movie for some inspiration.
I will definitely watch it! Too bad I don't have Astro. I guess I'll have to tor-*cough*-rent it tongue.gif

I just got my hands on Nodame Cantabile today, its on 8tv before but I missed it.
Its about a guy who plays the piano by reading score paired with a girl, which is totally opposite, who plays by ear.
user posted image
You can watch it here: MySoju.com
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eh, Nodame cantabile!!!!! LOLOLOLOL, coicidence!! my teacher told me about it on the same day but i forgot the name! but already over liao. haiz........
at least still got la conda, haha, thx for the title, now i save up energy finding sweat.gif going to watch!

QUOTE(Kayne @ Apr 28 2008, 01:45 PM)
heh, inconsistency and evenness is not good, timing and transition is important

icy, I think you pro liao la, just like I play rock fever or keyboard maniac (arcade music machine)...I cant play slow.. must go as fast as possible.

Yeah slowly increase speed lo..

dont have a metronome so I downloaded its midi and play via PSP while practicing, lol.. technology innovation
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i use my psp to play pokemon blue

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I'm new in the CLANS of Piano. I started learning since 5 years old and got my Dip LCM at 19 years old. After that I went to Melaka to further my studies in IT which I rarely practice/maintain my skill at the dip level. Now, after 3 ears graduated from Uni, I started to play back my piano.

I'm currently teaching Piano at Bandar Mahkota Cheras and most of my students are beginner. Sometimes, the school will dump very very young kids to me as young as 4 years old. SOmetimes, the school will dump a student who wants to learn POP song.

So, have to learn to be flexible in your teaching because what the school bother is to GRAB more student regardless whether the student actually can follow the lesson or not.
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i played since young too, but have stoped during SPM @ grade 8.

NOW i am all RUSTY! Cant even sight read a simple grade 5 piece. sad.gif

feel so useless.

And the piano that i brought up to KL with me, is all out of tune and some keys just dont work.

What should i do? Continue this as a hobby? tune up the piano and all? would cost quite a bomb right? considering the situation that my piano is in now?

Or should i just give up for good? sigh
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MayWong, tuning up piano cost roughly RM120 only. You can start picking up your skill by playing the pop songs which are normally easier than those classical pieces i believe. It is such a waste to stop just like that because u're a pro already! U've got a grade 8 certificate, my dear.
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QUOTE(wendymelon @ Apr 29 2008, 04:17 PM)
I'm new in the CLANS of Piano. I started learning since 5 years old and got my Dip LCM at 19 years old. After that I went to Melaka to further my studies in IT which I rarely practice/maintain my skill at the dip level. Now, after 3 ears graduated from Uni, I started to play back my piano.

I'm currently teaching Piano at Bandar Mahkota Cheras and most of my students are beginner. Sometimes, the school will dump very very young kids to me as young as 4 years old. SOmetimes, the school will dump a student who wants to learn POP song.

So, have to learn to be flexible in your teaching because what the school bother is to GRAB more student regardless whether the student actually can follow the lesson or not.
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welcome welcome XD
at last somebodi who does LCM!

P/s:how much do they pay u? whistling.gif
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hehe....if u're teaching at the centre. They will pay u very little. For example:

x is the student fee

The fee that u earn is actually:

((x - 15) * 55%)


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hehe....if u're teaching at the centre. They will pay u very little. For example:

x is the student fee

The fee that u earn is actually:

  ((x - 15) * 55%)
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some more need to minus 15 first? at KL here only pay the percentage difference, and normally 55%~70% also got. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(little ice @ Apr 30 2008, 12:44 PM)
some more need to minus 15 first? at KL here only pay the percentage difference, and normally 55%~70% also got. hmm.gif
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Wah...that means the school eat my fees la...hahaha....teaching at RM90, end up get only RM41

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Wah...that means the school eat my fees la...hahaha....teaching at RM90, end up get only RM41
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41 Divide 4 weeks ma= rm10.25 per hour lol.

aiyo counted good la, u only diploma wut, not degree or masters in music why kuao kuao chiao
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41 Divide 4 weeks ma= rm10.25 per hour lol.

aiyo counted good la, u only diploma wut, not degree or masters in music why kuao kuao chiao
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my piano teacher doesn't even have degree/highest diploma, and he's getting payment higher than that.

does cert matter? moreover, does having the cert has anything to do with ability to teach? unsure.gif

regarding the payment, it'll be OK if the center has very good facilities and beginner fees are starting from RM90. if it's not, a little hak pok i'd say.
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QUOTE(little ice @ Apr 30 2008, 04:50 PM)
my piano teacher doesn't even have degree/highest diploma, and he's getting payment higher than that.

does cert matter? moreover, does having the cert has anything to do with ability to teach? unsure.gif

regarding the payment, it'll be OK if the center has very good facilities and beginner fees are starting from RM90. if it's not, a little hak pok i'd say.
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well, he/she just graduated from uni, so he/she is 17+2+3, 22 years old ma, so how to ask banyak banyak.

having a degree/diploma have nothing to do with teaching, BUT it has to do with the amount of knowledge the teacher learned during the process when he/she studied in the university. example, whats the diffrent between a person who studied in julliard, and a person who hasnt?

well, the person who studied in julliard has way more knowlegde and understanding of music and dynamics and is ready to pass on the knowledge to the student.

having a diploma/degree has nothing to do with teaching, but it has something to do with having more knowledge to pass on when teaching.
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QUOTE(icypetals @ Apr 30 2008, 05:01 PM)
well, he/she just graduated from uni, so he/she is 17+2+3, 22 years old ma, so how to ask banyak banyak.

having a degree/diploma have nothing to do with teaching, BUT it has to do with the amount of knowledge the teacher learned during the process when he/she studied in the university. example, whats the diffrent between a person who studied in julliard, and a person who hasnt?

well, the person who studied in julliard has way more knowlegde and understanding of music and dynamics and is ready to pass on the knowledge to the student.

having a diploma/degree has nothing to do with teaching, but it has something to do with having more knowledge to pass on when teaching.
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you missed the point. even you have the knowledge, will you be able to pass it through the next generation if you don't have the ability to teach? do you think every student is the same plain white paper made from the same material?

also do you know that degree holder especially master and above normally won't teach in music center?

and finally, it's not that the she's asking a lot, the fees the center pay is below average, a.k.a underpaid, at least compared to KL/Selangor area. i don't have much clue how much is the average pay there, though.


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QUOTE(wendymelon @ Apr 29 2008, 05:33 PM)
MayWong, tuning up piano cost roughly RM120 only. You can start picking up your skill by playing the pop songs which are normally easier than those classical pieces i believe. It is such a waste to stop just like that because u're a pro already! U've got a grade 8 certificate, my dear.
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Oh? didnt know it is that cheap. But i think some of my keys are spoilt.. needs to be changed.

Do you have the contacts?

also, is it a must to tune my piano after moving house

im moving in september, but really tempted to play my piano again now...


Added on April 30, 2008, 5:30 pmoh.. and i stopped at grade 8.. so didnt get the cert for practical... but yes for theory.

dont think im ever going to continue.. sigh...

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QUOTE(MayWong @ Apr 30 2008, 05:28 PM)
Oh? didnt know it is that cheap. But i think some of my keys are spoilt.. needs to be changed.

Do you have the contacts?

also, is it a must to tune my piano after moving house

im moving in september, but really tempted to play my piano again now...


Added on April 30, 2008, 5:30 pmoh.. and i stopped at grade 8.. so didnt get the cert for practical... but yes for theory.

dont think im ever going to continue.. sigh...
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MayWong, I believe from from Malaysiabrides forum too. ehhehe....the contact : 0192261294 (Ronnie).

A piece of advice for u....do not tune immediately after you move in. Wait at least for 3 days then only tune.
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QUOTE(little ice @ Apr 30 2008, 05:09 PM)
you missed the point. even you have the knowledge, will you be able to pass it through the next generation if you don't have the ability to teach? do you think every student is the same plain white paper made from the same material?

also do you know that degree holder especially master and above normally won't teach in music center?

and finally, it's not that the she's asking a lot, the fees the center pay is below average, a.k.a underpaid, at least compared to KL/Selangor area. i don't have much clue how much is the average pay there, though.
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well i live in small town in kedah and i think the fees is quite average. but im 16 and the cost of living here is low in here.

anyway, u are right too, even if a person have a knowledege, but has no idea to pass it down, then it shall alll go down the drain.

BUT,

if a teacher who has
A master degree from julliard+ Ultra duper awesome teaching skill,

then u has a awesome teacher.
'cept, u dont get perfect teacher's like that. sweat.gif

eventhou what, answering the question before, having a degree/diploma will get you a higher pay no doubt.

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i'm playing piano... >.< going to take diploma this year june 10... >.<

exam pieces

Mozart - Sonata in Cminor K457
Bach - Prelude and Fugue No.6 BWV 851
Chopin - Polonaise Op 26 Number 1

any tips on these 3 songs?? >.< my teacher kept on scolding me... coz my expression on these 3 songs.. kept on changing every week... it's kinda like 1 week ok ... 1 week good... 1 week lousy... >.<

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my teacher kept on scolding me... coz my expression on these 3 songs.. kept on changing every week... it's kinda like 1 week ok ... 1 week good... 1 week lousy... >.<
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you must understand expression is not technical thing, you don't "read" them, as written or something. play it with emotion. understand the music, what're the stories behind the music is trying to tell. story telling also need emotional expression, music is just the same.

you might also caught in a problem that you only want to play the music for your teacher or the examiner, you'll not gain any musical sense if you think that way. instead, try to imagine you want to play for music lover, play for lots of audiences, or play to your love one. you want them to enjoy the story, not just want to show how well you can tell the story.

and then, there's teacher who want you to follow his/her interpretation/expression exactly, while some will allow the student to freely express themself, with their own interpretation. the latter is the true way of playing music, it's YOUR way of telling the stories. smile.gif

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QUOTE(moniqee @ May 1 2008, 10:33 PM)
i'm playing piano... >.< going to take diploma this year june 10... >.<

exam pieces

Mozart - Sonata in Cminor K457
Bach - Prelude and Fugue No.6 BWV 851
Chopin - Polonaise Op 26 Number 1

any tips on these 3 songs?? >.< my teacher kept on scolding me... coz my expression on these 3 songs.. kept on changing every week... it's kinda like 1 week ok ... 1 week good... 1 week lousy... >.<
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well, u can first check out the musical background/history of the composer, that way u will understand more of the piece.
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thanks for the advise... hopefully i don't kaput during exam since it's already may... left 1 month... >.< i really hope to pass the exam since it's not "cheap" - RM1030...
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thanks for the advise... hopefully i don't kaput during exam since it's already may... left 1 month... >.< i really hope to pass the exam since it's not "cheap" - RM1030...
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you can only get either 2Xps2/Wii/DS+banyak game/psp+2mmry card/new TV/second hand bike/new electric guitar/new bajus

nothing much la.

good luck on getting distinction.
Im aiming distiction.
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nothing much la.
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wait until you start to earn your very first RM1030... brows.gif
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wait until you start to earn your very first RM1030... brows.gif
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im exxagerating thumbup.gif

anyway, my teacher keep on telling me to stay back in yamaha to teach since form 1 until now when i finnish my school. seems like he sees alot in me doh.gif some more always push all the chamber music work to me, nice at first, but damn it organizing the members is a pain in the doh.gif
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walao..
now piano fees so expensive liao....
luckily i stop learning ady..
juz play for fun and play for show off...XD
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walao..
now piano fees so expensive liao....
luckily i stop learning ady..
juz play for fun and play for show off...XD
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why stop hmm.gif ?
even after grd 8 they are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many things to learn la.

my fees UPDATED
yamaha higher musicianship course 180
grade 8 180
violin double lesson 120

total 480

KEDAH SO SMALL TOWN ALSO So expensive.

wonder how is KL
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almost 50% more then ur rate?
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i'm learning diploma... so just my practical already cost RM320... and i'm learning from my teacher's place. ^__^
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QUOTE(wendymelon @ Apr 30 2008, 07:46 PM)
MayWong, I believe from from Malaysiabrides forum too. ehhehe....the contact : 0192261294 (Ronnie).

A piece of advice for u....do not tune immediately after you move in. Wait at least for 3 days then only tune.
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eh, yes yes.. im from the malaysian brides forum too... hehehehe... you must be in there too right! smile.gif

thanks for the contact.

Another question... should i tune my piano now.. or wait till october after i move into my new hse?

Is it a MUST to tune after moving?
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Another question... should i tune my piano now.. or wait till october after i move into my new hse?

Is it a MUST to tune after moving?
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absolutely. everytime a piano is moved from one place to another the tuning will be off a little.

you can tune now, but it'll be wasted.
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Hi fellow pianist! Joining the club smile.gif I stopped playing more than 10yrs ago. was ABRSM grade 5 then but recently just got myself a yamaha keyboard. quite surprised i can still play after a little practice... tho very messily and sloppy biggrin.gif

I can't sight play at a glance... I now memorize the sheet for my finger positioning and listen to youtube/mp3 for the tempo and dynamics... nodame style.. haha

Anyone here attended Play by Ear classes? I like to hear your comments before I decide to enroll. They charge RM500 for the 1st 10 lessons.
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QUOTE(Haneda @ May 6 2008, 07:16 AM)
Hi fellow pianist! Joining the club smile.gif I stopped playing more than 10yrs ago. was ABRSM grade 5 then but recently just got myself a yamaha keyboard. quite surprised i can still play after a little practice... tho very messily and sloppy biggrin.gif

I can't sight play at a glance... I now memorize the sheet for my finger positioning and listen to youtube/mp3 for the tempo and dynamics... nodame style.. haha

Anyone here attended Play by Ear classes? I like to hear your comments before I decide to enroll. They charge RM500 for the 1st 10 lessons.
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Welcome! thumbup.gif
i dont think you nd the play by ear course cause that course is for those who nv learn before.

if u still have ur abrsm 5 cert, u can take to the music centre and coutinue ur abrsm grd 6. u just nd sometime to pick up.
WE can nv forget how to play it, it tends to get sloppy, but can be shapend.

anyway,u learn more in ABRSM studies compared to play by ear.
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The reason i stopped my ABRSM studies was because it was too formal. I don't like taking exams and forced to practice songs that I do not like. I only like playing songs that i can relate to, like songs from my favorite anime, drama, games, pop songs... since Play By Ear classes seems to be more casual, not sure if it'll be more suitable for me.


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QUOTE(Haneda @ May 6 2008, 04:45 PM)
The reason i stopped my ABRSM studies was because it was too formal. I don't like taking exams and forced to practice songs that I do not like. I only like playing songs that i can relate to, like songs from my favorite anime, drama, games, pop songs... since Play By Ear classes seems to be more casual, not sure if it'll be more suitable for me.
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Haneda,

Play By Ear is for comtemporary/pop songs. It's no you learn very little, but it's more than enough for you to be able to play most contemporary songs, even up to the level you don't need. It's simply underrated by those who doesn't know about the course and what it do.

Basically Play by Ear teaches you MUSIC. It teach you how to listen to a song, most people would be able to capture the melody easily. You'll also learn how to feel the music and learn how to create chords from there. The music coach duty is to guide you through the process and help you out. This course is even beneficial for a conventional Grade 5 to even Grade 8 students who seems lost or learning blindly, which will take them sometime to fix the puzzles.

You can go for the demo or evaluation and decide for yourself.
Else, you can ask if they will have a preview anytime soon. There, you can understand more on the course.

FYI, with this course, you can still take up Exams if you want. They have recently ties up with London Music School, and you can get a certificate from there. All you need to do is just play 3 contemporary songs they provided, and 1 songs of your choice. No theory, no paper, just play.

Also, FYI, they're featured on the newspaper a few times.

Just for your insights:
Level 1 - 20 classes: You'll learn the basic chords and up to 9 (I think) playing styles, you'll also learn how to create your own styles, arrange a song yourself. You're also allowed to bring 1 song of your own.
Level 2 - 20 classes: More on left hand bassing ideas, very much on left hand and bassing. You'll learn those playing styles like Bossanova, Jazz, etc. You'll also learn how to play as an accompaniment.
Level3 - 40 classes: Previously there is only 20 classes, now they extend to 40. Not really sure on the details of this course as I haven't take it up yet. I was told its much more advance and will teach you about adding notes, and such to a song.

There're also other courses after this, such as, "Popular Keyboard Method", where they teaches you how to use your keyboard features andplay like a band.

Your 10 classes I think should be Level 1 first 10 classes. I took that same course first, but when I took it, it was RM650++ if I'm not wrong. After that you can upgrade to Level 1 with the remaining 10 classes.

Don't just take my word or anybody's word. Go SEE for yourself.
We're just giving you our opinions and advice.
As for me, I'm sharing my experiences as a student there as well.


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The reason i stopped my ABRSM studies was because it was too formal. I don't like taking exams and forced to practice songs that I do not like. I only like playing songs that i can relate to, like songs from my favorite anime, drama, games, pop songs... since Play By Ear classes seems to be more casual, not sure if it'll be more suitable for me.
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then i would recomend play by ear.

but u can try "synthersizer" course, is more proffesional, and is more fun brows.gif

u get to mix all kind of sounds together and become a full band urself.


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Here's some newspaper article regarding Play By Ear:
http://www.playbyear.com.my/Press/PressArticle01.htm
http://www.playbyear.com.my/Press/PressArticle04.htm

Comments by some students in newspaper:
http://www.playbyear.com.my/Press/PressArticle05.htm

More information about Level 1 in newspaper:
http://www.playbyear.com.my/Press/PressArticle08.htm

History on the founder in newspaper:
http://www.playbyear.com.my/Press/PressArticle03.htm

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I've actually talk explain about Play by Ear a few times, you can read more here if you are interested.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/377680/+60
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/377680/+40

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Here's the so called "Synthesizer" course, it's called "Popular Keyboard Method" in Play By Ear, here a DEMO by the founder itself:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J57xnNWM1mg

Here's a short video about their ties with the London Music School for the exam:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwdloHu1WYo


Added on May 7, 2008, 11:07 amI'll repeat this nice "quotes" in case someone didn't read what I posted in the past:

"A teacher has two jobs; fill young minds with knowledge, yes, but more important, give those minds a compass so that that knowledge doesn't go to waste."

"Playing music is supposed to be fun. It's about heart, it's about feelings, moving people, and something beautiful, and it's not about notes on a page. I can teach you notes on a page, I can't teach you that other stuff. "

- from the movie Mr. Holland's Opus (1995/1996)


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anyone here wanna sell off their keyboard?PM me

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hi guys

does anyone know any website or has any malays songs piano sheet coz i couldnt find any in any search engine?
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hi guys

does anyone know any website or has any malays songs piano sheet coz i couldnt find any in any search engine?
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usually i dont think u can find web that host malay sheets becuase the demand is little.

if the demand alot, then somebody host it.

The best is to go local store to find the book which have it or learn how to listen and play
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play by ear instead... tongue.gif

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ermm any reliable free sites that provide sheets for jazz scores?

all i have are those sites that give you the 1st page and ask you to pay. . . rofl. . .


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erm,count me in
i play most of the beatles and john lennon songs lol tongue.gif
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ermm any reliable free sites that provide sheets for jazz scores?

all i have are those sites that give you the 1st page and ask you to pay. . . rofl. . .
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its illegal i think laugh.gif

usually composer from the baroque to romantic period sheets are free cause the composer and dead and no copyright.

the rest are kinda hard unless a person arranged it.

*couh*torrent*cough*
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i am newbie here ,just bought my m-audio for learning myself
will check out play by ear in the future if i really cant cope with myself laugh.gif

I wanna ask pro here,
what is a C-G-C chord call? I look at that chord in many chord dictionary but cant find that kind of chord name but it's very popular i think

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what is a C-G-C chord call? I look at that chord in many chord dictionary but cant find that kind of chord name but it's very popular i think
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it's just a simple chord progression, if talk about only G-C (assumed it's in C Major key) it's called perfect cadence.

some reading if you'd like to know more:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadence_(music)

you don't need to identify "what" it is. just use it if it sounds nice. classical composers also did that, they innovate and create new things, it's just the classical freaks of modern days put all the names and set them as "rules".

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thanks little ice
btw, can recommend any good piano books for self learning?
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thanks little ice
btw, can recommend any good piano books for self learning?
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actually they are many books, u can check music stores, borders, mph etc.

but u can get a *** lot more information off wikipedia, the net, and YOUTUBE

seiriously, youtube has *** lot of knowledge!
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yea...
i learn guitar through youtube too...
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Looking to play Final Fantasy Piano Collection but I'll definitely need to be able to read music sheet in order to play those.
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i learning to read the notes too
so hard for me.. need to memorize
can play ff7-cloud smile 1st page only so far
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I'm switching from classical to play by ear these days XD I havent touch classical for like few years >< But church has taught me how to play by ear and also play using chords. =D its quite fun.
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i notice 50% ppl hear all plays final fantasy XD
guess the composer is well known and well love for his music
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i would like to start back piano after 2 years of STOPPING , will it be hard for me to start jazz?
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i would like to start back piano after 2 years of STOPPING , will it be hard for me to start jazz?
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jazz is quite hard also, but determination p*wns all hardness!
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For jazz, u need to feel it. My friend plays jazz on the piano and often his scores are just blanks where he makes things up as he goes along. VERY COOL! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(icypetals @ May 31 2008, 10:51 PM)
i notice 50% ppl hear all plays final fantasy XD
guess the composer is well known and well love for his music
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I'm currently practising FFX-2 - 1000 words (4 pages version). The last 2 rows of the 2nd page is so confusing blink.gif kinda stuck there
Would appreciate if any sifus can help tongue.gif hehehe
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hi, i am new here. Just started to learn 3 months ago by self-learning. Anyone can give me some suggestion on what should i use to practice? I can play xiaoyu Secret with quite a slow speed. i am still unable to control my hands like the time i play electone years ago...haizzz....
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hi, i am new here. Just started to learn 3 months ago by self-learning. Anyone can give me some suggestion on what should i use to practice? I can play xiaoyu Secret with quite a slow speed. i am still unable to control my hands like the time i play electone years ago...haizzz....
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Well, u can try to play scales(major/minor) for a few times to get use to ur fingerings.
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play it frm slow then slightly faster then faster then fastest...
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Oh goodie!

I owned a keyboard/synthesizer since...early primary or earlier? Miraculously (sp?), STILL have it until now, and still somehow love it, it's nostalgic ;__; Although the stereo speakers have problem, I need to plugin the cpu speakers to work +_+; It's an oldskool CASIO ToneBank Keyboard, model CA-401. I see new ones have recording function and pc transfer feature, sweet. Might get one ...in the future.

I play piano too. But uhhhhh OMG DEAD NO PRACTICE. X_X;

For keyboard music-to-play recommendation, have anyone heard of Dream Theater or Children Of Bodom? Their keyboard music are just WOW. I wanna play like them too! 8__8

currently I play by ear. currently making my own tunes/keys out of my all-time fave J*Rock band songs: SIAM SHADE!! *__*

any musician here who belongs to a band??

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1st half of 1000 words from Final Fantasy X-2.. kinda stuck at the 2nd half of the song..
not sure how to position my fingers tongue.gif sifus... sila beri tunjuk ajar notworthy.gif

Links to multiply

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i looked for synths..
someone have offer me this..

roland juno D for rm 2050
and yamaha MM6 for rm 1900..

which one should i choose..
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QUOTE(sagaranna @ Jun 8 2008, 11:13 PM)


any musician here who belongs to a band??

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i do... XD
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er..tumpang thread...i just repaired my keyboard...a.k.a m-audio key station 49e....the problem is i am a newbie...wanna take class is really costly. Is there any dvd can teach how to play keyboard?? or what software that i can use to sync with my keyboard? i use fruity loops now..seems like it not helping me, cannot find any piano rhythm...plz help me sad.gif
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to learn = youtube...
to sync..
i dunno liao...
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QUOTE(Haneda @ Jun 9 2008, 09:34 PM)
1st half of 1000 words from Final Fantasy X-2.. kinda stuck at the 2nd half of the song..
not sure how to position my fingers tongue.gif sifus... sila beri tunjuk ajar  notworthy.gif

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Am I too late to reply this? tongue.gif The beginning was fine...but once the main melody shifted to left hand, somewhere around 0:44, you lost track on the timing until the end of the video. I don't know about keyboards, but it will sound definitely better if you can hold the semibreves longer with the pedal smile.gif
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any good songs for beginners like me?
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anyone knows where to get free music scores?? i downloaded some but the pieces always end up to easy for me... or the arrangement are too dull...

wonder why this thread so quiet...
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anyone knows where to get free music scores?? i downloaded some but the pieces always end up to easy for me... or the arrangement are too dull...

wonder why this thread so quiet...
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piano scores are harder to find this days vmad.gif
other than composer who died like mozart, chopin,beethoven, their scores are not COPYRIGHTED so anybody can post them in thieir web.

the usual scores u find are arrange by ametuer musicians where the good scores are bought in books.
so giving u easy scores, isnt that a great way to improvise?

I prefer easy scores and improvise myself, it is better.

Anyway, the best place for score? torrent. nuff said
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Recorded another after my long break due to exams smile.gif



i made alot mistakes here and there but most noticeble was in the end. Comments please smile.gif

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befitozi,
melody line well define... very nice... where did u get the score??
nice song tooo... hmm.. i think it take sometime to learn right?
u r a male rite? hand look like female... hehhehe...


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QUOTE(sbux @ Aug 7 2008, 04:29 AM)
befitozi,
melody line well define... very nice... where did u get the score??
nice song tooo... hmm.. i think it take sometime to learn right?
u r a male rite? hand look like female... hehhehe...
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i got the score from a book. i think you can get it in MPH.

i took about 3 weeks to a month to learn.

yea i'm a guy. maybe my hands looks like girl's because i have short and stumpy fingers smile.gif it runs in the family hahaha

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u mind to give me the name of the song and the book u bought????

MPH piano books are super expensive.... sigh...

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u mind to give me the name of the song and the book u bought????

MPH piano books are super expensive.... sigh...
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Title of the song is Escapades of Pan by David Lanz. The book name is "The David Lanz Collection".

I bought the book for around rm60. I think its worth every cent if u really can enjoy his pieces like i do.
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Hi i wanted to ask..i am a beginner

and any suggestion of a nice keyboard i could buy? not that expensive thou
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QUOTE(befitozi @ Aug 14 2008, 03:01 AM)
Title of the song is Escapades of Pan by David Lanz. The book name is "The David Lanz Collection".

I bought the book for around rm60. I think its worth every cent if u really can enjoy his pieces like i do.
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thanks thanks...
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Who wanna buy keyboard?? Casio Model: WK 1800?? Anybody is interested???


Added on August 26, 2008, 6:05 pmAnybody Interested to buy Keyboard Please email me..at Twinie_gal@hotmail.com........

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hi.. yamaha sales going on rite nw.. unitl 7/9/08

any1 interested to buy intrument plz link from my signature^^

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ooh.. advertising going on in this thread.. wow!!...


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QUOTE(sbux @ Aug 27 2008, 03:10 AM)
ooh.. advertising going on in this thread.. wow!!...
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biasa la, strings instrument topic there also like that. sweat.gif
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ooh.. advertising going on in this thread.. wow!!...
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heloo...all pianist....i newbie...i just need advise...after my 2nd lesson song "silent night" and the 1st is "Twinkle2 little star" what other song it should be next?? i try "yesterday - by Beegees" it very hard for me the the tricky notes
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heloo...all pianist....i newbie...i just need advise...after my 2nd lesson song "silent night" and the 1st is "Twinkle2 little star" what other song it should be next?? i try "yesterday - by Beegees" it very hard for me the the tricky notes
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hmm your question sounds like "i just got my driving license, and i just manage to drive at wangsa maju and setapak, , which area should i learn to drive next? i tried driving in bukit bintang but very hard for me the tricky traffics". hmm.gif

any song will do, each song will gain you experiences, of course pick something that's not too hard for your next level, slowly increase the difficulty. anyway you have to have a teacher to guide you. smile.gif
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QUOTE(little ice @ Sep 19 2008, 02:38 AM)
hmm your question sounds like "i just got my driving license, and i just manage to drive at wangsa maju and setapak, , which area should i learn to drive next? i tried driving in bukit bintang but very hard for me the tricky traffics". hmm.gif

any song will do, each song will gain you experiences, of course pick something that's not too hard for your next level, slowly increase the difficulty. anyway you have to have a teacher to guide you. smile.gif
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Any song will do?? like example easy-easy one...? sorry la...my english quite bad...hehe
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Any song will  do?? like example easy-easy one...? sorry la...my english quite bad...hehe
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em, too many example la. just head to music center and get some books for beginner.

that said, you need a teacher to guide you. what kind of books, what kind of songs, what kind of things you need to learn, you need a teacher to tell/teach you all that.

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yamaha at subang parade is having stock clearence for display models, up to 40% i think. keybaords are virtually new cause nobody come in to touch them. go grab if you're interested in yamaha keybaords. icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(naughtyz @ Sep 19 2008, 09:37 AM)
Any song will  do?? like example easy-easy one...? sorry la...my english quite bad...hehe
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simple disney song will do...
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Introducing.. Chopin
"Fantasie Impromptu op. 66"



I am in love with this piece.
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simple disney song will do...
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QUOTE(befitozi @ Aug 4 2008, 12:49 AM)
Recorded another after my long break due to exams smile.gif
Nice song and well played.

Being a lazy pianist, my hands are usually flat. Sometimes they rest on the
piano edge and I also cross my non-pedalling leg sometimes.

Your hands are much more arched and disciplined than mine.

Also the recording of the Yamaha piano is clean and clear.
Enjoyed listening.

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QUOTE(Paramore @ Sep 27 2008, 12:29 AM)
Introducing.. Chopin
"Fantasie Impromptu op. 66"



I am in love with this piece.
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yea...
nice for beginner... blink.gif
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yea...
nice for beginner... blink.gif
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Speechless. It is just a performance by Valentina Igoshina.
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QUOTE(Paramore @ Sep 27 2008, 10:06 PM)
Speechless. It is just a performance by Valentina Igoshina.
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i knw lar...
"nice for beginner" mah...
cant sense my humor meh...=.=
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hey ppl...
i just finished my grade 8 last july..
if get distinction got cash prize?
hope to get replies from ppl asap XD


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Wow! Lyn Pianist. Can I join in as well? I have a youtube account but I am still not pro enuf. Quitted piano back years ago. Now stuck in some levels.
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hey ppl...
i just finished my grade 8 last july..
if get distinction got cash prize?
hope to get replies from ppl asap XD
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The best you can expect is you will be invited to a high scorer performance, got photo shoot, some flowers and publicity. And not to forget your certificate.
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been playing piano since 7 years old... but quit at grade 6 .. i think around when i take UPSR tat time.. now i'm already a college student.

i just play piano for leisure...

finding new scores on the net and learn to play it... is kinda fun although i didn't complete all my grades..

help me release stress a lot ...
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Hi everyone. I stopped at grade 6. Because I felt the way I was being taught did not improve my playing. All I did was pass exams. after exams. Many of us Malaysians learn to play music this way imho its a very bad system. Does not encourage much exploration since piano teachers only want their students to pass. I've developed much since I stopped, but hopefully will finish grade 8 someday.

lol introduction walloftext.
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Hey there lowyat- ians pianist!

Anyone plays Mario sheets ??
And Lydia (FIR) (piano version)
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Mario sheets? You mean sheet music for the Mario theme song.
What about them music?
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yes, theme song and plus others mario songs ! XD
I am Learning Lydia(FIR) recently, but my scores aint completely right, anyone have idea of where to get the right 1?

Look! He's blindfolded..(not the whole video)


Lydia piano version


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hey ppl...
i just finished my grade 8 last july..
if get distinction got cash prize?
hope to get replies from ppl asap XD
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hmm what music school did u take your exam at?

if i remember correctly, abrsm gave out 50pounds for getting a distinction. but its been quite a few years since i heard that. not sure whether it is still in practice.

hope u get distinction, with or without the money biggrin.gif
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yes, theme song and plus others mario songs ! XD
I am Learning Lydia(FIR) recently, but my scores aint completely right, anyone have idea of where to get the right 1?
I can transcribe them if you want.
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Anyone got canon in D's music tab ? Kindly share it to me please =P
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QUOTE(nimrod2 @ Oct 6 2008, 03:43 PM)
hmm what music school did u take your exam at?

if i remember correctly, abrsm gave out 50pounds for getting a distinction. but its been quite a few years since i heard that. not sure whether it is still in practice.

hope u get distinction, with or without the money biggrin.gif
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i did not get anything when i completed abrsm... and i did not even know if such reward exist blink.gif
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Hello smile.gif this is my 1st post here
i recommend la campanella by Franz Liszt
its relly nice
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QUOTE(nimrod2 @ Oct 6 2008, 03:43 PM)
hmm what music school did u take your exam at?

if i remember correctly, abrsm gave out 50pounds for getting a distinction. but its been quite a few years since i heard that. not sure whether it is still in practice.

hope u get distinction, with or without the money biggrin.gif
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really???!!!
*gets up and runs to study*
lol
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really???!!!
*gets up and runs to study*
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serious shit..... never knew that.....i should go claim.
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go go go...
50pound is quite a number leh..
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i don't think so. as a teacher, i have never heard of such things before.

anyway.. i have those music sheets u guys want. but i dont think i can distribute it here.

anything, pm me ya!!


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Hello smile.gif
To those who completed diploma in piano,
im juz curious How is diploma level like?
what kind of pieces are we expected to play?? is it hard...?
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i duno ler. thats what my old teacher told me i think. distinction wor. i havent got it before, so cant tell u guys.

erm diploma got alot of different levels wan wor. got for teaching, for performance and others. which one u refering to?
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as in performance??
im interested too..
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erm.. performance?
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I can transcribe them if you want.
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Ill move on learning when i have free time... rclxub.gif
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Hello people smile.gif just want to post this up if anyone interested to go see

3rd ASEAN International Chopin Piano Competition

17th – 22nd November 2008

Panggung Bandaraya, Kuala Lumpur


http://chopinsociety.com.my/3rdcompetition.php

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I'm a pianist who is preparing for my ABRSM Grade 6 exam next. I took the Grade 4 exam this year.
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any simple christmas song sheet to recommend? skill level around ABRSM grade 3-4
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silent night??
christmas songs r easy..
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silent night??
christmas songs r easy..
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any sheets you can recommend?
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silver bells =]
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HI, I played the piano many years ago for fun and would like to pick it up again, however $$ seems to be the constrain so I opted to buy a kayboard first to get my fingers going, its a tie between Casio CTK 2000 and Yamaha PSR E213 for the price below Rm700, any advice on which is better?
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um does anyone know how to play the pianica/melodica?
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was youtube-ing for some piano song
and found this song really nice

Rurouni Kenshin — Her Most Beautiful Smile

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talk about youtube

i love listening to david sides piano cover (esp the song Buy You A Drink)
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I am very headache thinking of learning keyboard or violin. sigh..
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a violin and a piano make completely different sounds. so is the style of playing. depends which music you'd prefer to make, and how u intend to make it tongue.gif

or u could just go for a keyboard and play violin synths!
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QUOTE(Rikipu @ Mar 1 2009, 08:51 AM)
a violin and a piano make completely different sounds. so is the style of playing. depends which music you'd prefer to make, and how u intend to make it tongue.gif

or u could just go for a keyboard and play violin synths!
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smile.gif i would like to play pop songs.. but buying a keyboard is out of my budget >.<

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QUOTE(anderyna @ Feb 28 2009, 11:01 PM)
I am very headache thinking of learning keyboard or violin. sigh..
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come to the violin family!!~~ brows.gif

ok put it this way - if you willing to spend *a lot* of effort and time to learn something, go for violin. if you want to learn something you can play for fun, go for the keyboard.

wouldn't say you can't go advance for keyboard, just that you won't enjoy much of playing violin even until you're around grade 5.
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hi guys...any tips or vids or way for me to learn piano online ??? i use to learn last time for 5 years...and i hope i can play back...really wish that i can play back because so regret now....
thanks alot icon_rolleyes.gif
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how much is the cheapest keyboard?


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QUOTE(anderyna @ Mar 1 2009, 10:41 PM)
how much is the cheapest keyboard?
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i got mine for 600...u can buy 2nd in garage sales for 400.

but now i'm upgrading myself to digital piano.. tongue.gif

btw...i'm learning violin at the same time too... rclxm9.gif
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May I know is there any shop that sells second hand digital pianos and what is the price range for a second hand Yamaha P60, P70 and Casio CDP100 and PX100. Thanks.
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wow this thread is AWESOME YO.....

add me in the pianist list please! grade 8 trinity guy here....
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QUOTE(Jaroque @ Mar 22 2009, 12:06 AM)
wow this thread is AWESOME YO.....

add me in the pianist list please! grade 8 trinity guy here....
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Yes, it is so nice. Do not forget me too. Diploma LTCL performance trinity girl is here smile.gif
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new pianist reporting in.. from klang.......

juz started 3 months ago and now already grade 3........ Violin grade 6 ........Taking trinity for both piano and violin rclxm9.gif

Is 4 months enuf to master 3 exam pieces ??(i mean for violin)

currently playing Apologize from 1 replubic on piano

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QUOTE(youjian @ Mar 22 2009, 10:52 PM)
Is 4 months enuf to master 3 exam pieces ??(i mean for violin)
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maybe you should ask this in the strings family thread. laugh.gif

4 months, unless your foundations are solid, i wouldn't say it's enough to prepare 3 songs for average student.
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hey, does anybody have the score for jim brickman - sweet dreams? solo...


btw, everybody so geng here all got diploma and all. SALUTE leh. imma just a g7 pianist.
didn't continue. =\
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Oh wow, add me in too! Not as canggih as you people, but I'm learning, hehe.

Out of curiosity, are we allowed to share sheet music here?
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haha, ABRSM grade 7 theory and ABRSM grade 2 practical sweat.gif

but not playing quite as often as before and have become awkward sad.gif
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QUOTE(anna.cf @ Mar 26 2009, 10:10 PM)
hey, does anybody have the score for jim brickman - sweet dreams? solo...
btw, everybody so geng here all got diploma and all. SALUTE leh. imma just a g7 pianist.
didn't continue. =\
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lol...i'm an adult beginner
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Just bought my first 88-key keyboard... The Korg M50... Now waiting for my Ultimate V-stand to come in...

Really cool board! Build quality is pretty impressive for an assembles in China product...


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Hey guise,

Wanna ask, how many grades are there in Piano? Grade 8 or Grade 10? In order to complete all grades, how long will it takes? 2 years?

I'm currently looking for a music shop that provides piano lesson. Yamaha is one of them, if you guise have any other suggestions, please shoot.
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QUOTE(zeist @ Mar 29 2009, 12:24 AM)
Hey guise,

Wanna ask, how many grades are there in Piano? Grade 8 or Grade 10? In order to complete all grades, how long will it takes? 2 years?

I'm currently looking for a music shop that provides piano lesson. Yamaha is one of them, if you guise have any other suggestions, please shoot.
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Totally is eight grades. All depends on your progression. If you cope it well, you can skip some grades when you are lower than grade 5.
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QUOTE(christellia @ Mar 29 2009, 11:50 AM)
Totally is eight grades. All depends on your progression. If you cope it well, you can skip some grades when you are lower than grade 5.
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Have you completed all grades?

ABRSM certificate, is it recognized? If I've completed 8 grades, will I be quality to be a music teacher?
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QUOTE(zeist @ Mar 29 2009, 07:32 PM)
Have you completed all grades?

ABRSM certificate, is it recognized? If I've completed 8 grades, will I be quality to be a music teacher?
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I had completed the whole grades from ABRSM. You are qualified to be a music teacher if you have completed the 8 grades. One of my friends and my cousin are a music teacher recently. They have not finished grade 8 yet. My cousin is still struggle at there. However, they are not teaching high grades like 6, 7 and 8. I think it is because of their maturity in music and experience. ABRSM certificate is recognised. However, if you get Diploma certificate from Trinity, it is accredited by relevant regulatory bodies in England, Nothern Ireland and Wales as well as a number of countries around the world. This is what I know.

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can sumbody tell me which is harder..... trinty or abrsm (practical) which is harder?? trinity or abrms(theory) which is harder? and is it possible to skip grade 1 to grade 5 theory?(trinity)

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QUOTE(youjian @ Mar 29 2009, 08:40 PM)
can sumbody tell me which is harder..... trinty or abrsm (practical) which is harder??    trinity or abrms(theory) which is harder?  and is it possible to skip grade 1 to grade 5 theory?(trinity)
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Do you mean Diploma course or grade 1 to 8? I have not take Trinity Grade 1 to 8 course before. I think you can skip some grades when you are lower than Grade 5 like ABRSM even though it is offered by Trinity.
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QUOTE(christellia @ Mar 29 2009, 08:10 PM)
I had completed the whole grades from ABRSM. You are qualified to be a music teacher if you have completed the 8 grades. One of my friends and my cousin are a music teacher recently. They have not finished grade 8 yet. My cousin is still struggle at there. However, they are not teaching high grades like 6, 7 and 8. I think it is because of their maturity in music and experience. ABRSM certificate is recognised. However, if you get Diploma certificate from Trinity, it is accredited by relevant regulatory bodies in England, Nothern Ireland and Wales as well as a number of countries around the world. This is what I know.
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So how long it took you to finish all grades? And how much have you spent? I'm trying to plan my budget now to complete all grades and also the duration. Need to plan properly.
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So how long it took you to finish all grades? And how much have you spent? I'm trying to plan my budget now to complete all grades and also the duration. Need to plan properly.
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I stared to learn piano since 7 years old. I took my Grade 1 examination when I was 8 years old. When I was in Form 2, I finished my Grade 8 course. About the budget I cannot said much about that since the examination fee is more expensive now. Anyway, the examination fee will be more expensive when you achieve to higher grade. Practical fee is comparatively cheaper than theory fee. The only thing I remember is my Grade 8 examination fee is around RM 340. The piano lesson fee will depend to your teacher.
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QUOTE(christellia @ Mar 29 2009, 09:34 PM)
I stared to learn piano since 7 years old. I took my Grade 1 examination when I was 8 years old. When I was in Form 2, I finished my Grade 8 course. About the budget I cannot said much about that since the examination fee is more expensive now. Anyway, the examination fee will be more expensive when you achieve to higher grade. Practical fee is comparatively cheaper than theory fee. The only thing I remember is my Grade 8 examination fee is around RM 340. The piano lesson fee will depend to your teacher.
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7 years to complete all grades? If I put more effort into, can I shorten the duration ah? Let say maybe in 2 - 3 years? Will that be possible? All 8 grades.

Grade 8 Examination fee RM340 = ABRSM certificate? In the certificate, it will state that you've completed from grade 1 to 8?

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QUOTE(zeist @ Mar 30 2009, 08:43 AM)
7 years to complete all grades? If I put more effort into, can I shorten the duration ah? Let say maybe in 2 - 3 years? Will that be possible? All 8 grades.

Grade 8 Examination fee RM340 = ABRSM certificate? In the certificate, it will state that you've completed from grade 1 to 8?
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it is possible to finish them in 2 or 3 years, it all depends on whether u practice onot? or how talented you arr... fyi.... i juz started piano in january this year and now i can play grade 4 songs..(i have music background)
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QUOTE(zeist @ Mar 30 2009, 08:43 AM)
7 years to complete all grades? If I put more effort into, can I shorten the duration ah? Let say maybe in 2 - 3 years? Will that be possible? All 8 grades.

Grade 8 Examination fee RM340 = ABRSM certificate? In the certificate, it will state that you've completed from grade 1 to 8?
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All depends on your progression. Hence, you can shorten the duration. In my opinion, I think it is quite impossible for you to finish the 8 grades within 2 to 3 years. This is for non-music background. Even though you have music background, it is still hard. It depends on your teacher too. If he or she do not want you to skip, you cannot do anything. Furthermore, your fingers are not nimble anymore. You can skip very fast when you are in grade 1 to 5. When you reach to grade 6 to 8, your progression will slower. You need to cope well in practical and theory in the same time. Grade 8 examination fee is not equal to ABRSM certificate. It is only for your Grade 8 certificate. Therefore, it will not state that you have completed from grade 1 to 8. It only state that you have pass, achieve merit or distinction for Grade 8. I want to remind you again. I think nowadays Grade 8 examination fee is not RM 340 anymore. The examination fee will increase.
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QUOTE(youjian @ Mar 30 2009, 01:47 PM)
it is possible to finish them in 2 or 3 years, it all depends on whether u practice onot? or how talented you arr... fyi.... i juz started piano in january this year and now i can play grade 4 songs..(i have music background)
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Sounds good, able to play grade 4 songs within 3 months.

QUOTE(christellia @ Mar 30 2009, 03:06 PM)
All depends on your progression. Hence, you can shorten the duration. In my opinion, I think it is quite impossible for you to finish the 8 grades within 2 to 3 years. This is for non-music background. Even though you have music background, it is still hard. It depends on your teacher too. If he or she do not want you to skip, you cannot do anything. Furthermore, your fingers are not nimble anymore. You can skip very fast when you are in grade 1 to 5. When you reach to grade 6 to 8, your progression will slower. You need to cope well in practical and theory in the same time. Grade 8 examination fee is not equal to ABRSM certificate. It is only for your Grade 8 certificate. Therefore, it will not state that you have completed from grade 1 to 8. It only state that you have pass, achieve merit or distinction for Grade 8. I want to remind you again. I think nowadays Grade 8 examination fee is not RM 340 anymore. The examination fee will increase.
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Let say if I want to pursue a career in music, to be a music teacher and operate my own music school. Diploma is essential?

Which is better, learning at music school or at home? But if I choose to learn at home with the teacher, where should I take the exams? Those piano teacher at home got linked with the Malaysia Piano Association ah? Hmm....
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QUOTE(zeist @ Mar 31 2009, 11:36 AM)
Let say if I want to pursue a career in music, to be a music teacher and operate my own music school. Diploma is essential?

Which is better, learning at music school or at home? But if I choose to learn at home with the teacher, where should I take the exams? Those piano teacher at home got linked with the Malaysia Piano Association ah? Hmm....
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you can be a music teacher, but please consider a few points:

1. do you love teaching?
2. why you want to teach?
3. do you know how much responsibility you have for your students?

regarding what are the minimum qualifications? you decide. teaching is passing on knowledge, if you think you have enough knowledge to pass on (and willing to pass on), by all means go ahead. but again, refer to the point 3 above - imagine you're a student, you don't want to follow a teacher who got low qualification, or dunno how to teach (even though the teacher have high qualification and an excellent performer), or simply no passion in teaching? wink.gif

as for where to learn, it doesn't matter, as long as you found a good teacher. either teaching in music center or teach at home also can register for the exams, even register by yourself.
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QUOTE(zeist @ Mar 31 2009, 11:36 AM)
Let say if I want to pursue a career in music, to be a music teacher and operate my own music school. Diploma is essential?
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There is a Diploma in Teaching course. I do not know whether it is essential or not. If you are younger than 16 or 17 years old ( I had already forgotten. The two either one. ), you are not allow to take it. It has the age limit. The minimum entry requirement to pursue music course in MIA and so on is having a Grade 5 certificate.
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ugh, my scholarship got rejected... cry.gif well, probably my fault anyway, i was gibberish shakehead.gif

anyone have any knowledge about piano competitions which offer scholarships? icon_question.gif
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Man, I want to start back piano. I finished my grade 5 like last 2 years or something. Lost the touch of piano. How do you guys remember your bass clef notes! I've trouble remembering them. But I can remember treble.
I want to start back ! Any advices?
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Man, I want to start back piano. I finished my grade 5 like last 2 years or something. Lost the touch of piano. How do you guys remember your bass clef notes! I've trouble remembering them. But I can remember treble.
I want to start back ! Any advices?
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uh.. jz practice back the songs that you've played b4? im sure you'll be back in top shape in no time. maybe 10 minutes a day (well works for me anyway lol)
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Just started with a keyboard 4 days ago.

Very into jazz, so far trying to play by ear(but found out that is impossible for now). Any advice from sifu in here?

I want to get to the level where I can play with both hands and just play what I feel at the moment.
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QUOTE(cyloh @ May 14 2009, 05:34 PM)
Just started with a keyboard 4 days ago.

Very into jazz, so far trying to play by ear(but found out that is impossible for now). Any advice from sifu in here?

I want to get to the level where I can play with both hands and just play what I feel at the moment.
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U gotta know your keys and your chord progressions (practice the scales A LOT 1. to familiarize with the key, 2. useful if you wanna do some improvisation and know where to plant your fingers), especially if ur into jazz playing, you need a very strong understanding of music theory. I suggest you learn play some simple chords first. once you get to the point when u listen to songs and go "ah, i know that chord, and what comes next" you can play what you want. Or even experiment more with 7th chords, inversions, etc.

And quite frankly, a lot of pianists can't play by ear. Especially those who are classically trained, they just know how to sight read from the sheet music and don't practice what they learn in their theory. THat used to include me. lol. so yea, if you can play by ear there's a big possibility you will fool those who learnt piano for 8 years.

http://www.playpiano.com/ I'm subscribed to this and found it pretty helpful.

btw i'm not a sifu. LONG WAY TO GO haha.. and personally i find most chinese songs easy to train/analyze chords, cuz they all sound horribly predictable. well, to me anyway.

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QUOTE(cyloh @ May 14 2009, 05:34 PM)
Just started with a keyboard 4 days ago.

Very into jazz, so far trying to play by ear(but found out that is impossible for now). Any advice from sifu in here?

I want to get to the level where I can play with both hands and just play what I feel at the moment.
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If you wish to play according to your feeling, you need to understand the theme of the song and what is the message that the composer want to share. Then, enjoy the song. However, at the same time, you need to play with your ear. Listen to your playing and aware some special chords. For instance, diminished 7th chord, extended dominant chord and so on. Try to stress a little bit on them to let people know that there is a special chord in the song. The purpose of a composer to put the special chords in a song is to enrich the harmony of the song. Frankly, most of the pianists and keyboardists use to skip the special chords and replace it with an easier chord. This is a bad habit.
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QUOTE(christellia @ May 15 2009, 02:31 PM)
If you wish to play according to your feeling, you need to understand the theme of the song and what is the message that the composer want to share. Then, enjoy the song. However, at the same time, you need to play with your ear. Listen to your playing and aware some special chords. For instance, diminished 7th chord, extended dominant chord and so on. Try to stress a little bit on them to let people know that there is a special chord in the song. The purpose of a composer to put the special chords in a song is to enrich the harmony of the song. Frankly, most of the pianists and keyboardists use to skip the special chords and replace it with an easier chord. This is a bad habit.
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agreed:D
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I am getting a Clavinova soon but I need to get rid of my old Pearl River acoustic piano and a Yamaha organ.

Seriously, whenever you guys upgrade, what happens to the old one? Is there a trade-in program or buy back or even if donate, where to? Or if let's say sell cheap to other interested young students, where?

I didnt wanna create a new topic for this so I wrote it here, hope I dont offend anybody. Thanks in advance.
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hello, everyone here
here's a song i got to share with you guys.
Anybody here got the scores of this song?
I've been searching around, but still yet to find one.
A pm from you guys will be cool. Thank you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peb44mD36z0
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Hi Piano Clan!

I wanted to start learning piano again and hope can get some good advice or maybe a teacher here. Some background of myself:

1) Had some basic piano training at 8 years old. Not even Grade 1.
2) 5 years ago, I took up Play By Ear and reached Level 2.
3) Able to play some simple Nobuo Uematsu and Jay Chao songs.
4) Now I am 31 years OLD!

Is it possible to learn classical piano (ABRSM, etc) all over again to reach grade 8 at my age? Or what approach should I take? sob sob...my dream is to play the piano in hotels or anywhere just to pass my time when I retire...
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QUOTE(hysteresis @ Jun 8 2009, 04:33 AM)
Hi Piano Clan!

I wanted to start learning piano again and hope can get some good advice or maybe a teacher here. Some background of myself:

1) Had some basic piano training at 8 years old. Not even Grade 1.
2) 5 years ago, I took up Play By Ear and reached Level 2.
3) Able to play some simple Nobuo Uematsu and Jay Chao songs.
4) Now I am 31 years OLD!

Is it possible to learn classical piano (ABRSM, etc) all over again to reach grade 8 at my age? Or what approach should I take? sob sob...my dream is to play the piano in hotels or anywhere just to pass my time when I retire...
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ehh u same case with me.. for me it was 6 yrs old.... i think we can straight go for grade 3 or 4.. then take exam all the way til grade 8... better go ask the music center loh.. they can advise u how de.. but i know is possible ler..
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Hi guys and ladies. well... never had the chance to learn the piano when young, so now old liao wana stay. bought myself a digital piano and banging away, jz wana say hi to all ^^
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Hi, piano clan.....

finally there is a place for piano lovers to gather.... been searching for a place like this to discuss about pianos but mostly found guitar threads laugh.gif

Hi all....


still looking for a digital piano with 88keys >.< so far say the Yamaha P8 around RM3k.... anyone here own one of that model?

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moyong, Yamaha P85 in malaysia is around RM2600.

Korg SP250 is RM2700 at CKmusic, which is a better one
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QUOTE(Kase @ Jun 8 2009, 03:27 PM)
ehh u same case with me.. for me it was 6 yrs old.... i think we can straight go for grade 3 or 4.. then take exam all the way til grade 8... better go ask the music center loh.. they can advise u how de.. but i know is possible ler..
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Hmm...skip grades eh...that sounds encouraging...lol. I'll ask around on this.
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QUOTE(hysteresis @ Jun 9 2009, 06:44 PM)
Hmm...skip grades eh...that sounds encouraging...lol. I'll ask around on this.
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i once skipped to g3 before, yes you are playing g3's song, but do you have the proficiency of that grade? side reading etc..
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I never mean to teach piano,but then, I have to become a piano teacher as for my part time.

Teaching music is never one of my motive in taking up music degree as it needs your ever-existing responsibility, time and efforts in bringing up a student. You may think that teaching is plainly teach students how to play a song and get a song book done then go for exam, but hey, you'll never know what is coming up next. Let's say, syllabus changed, exam details changed, parents giving you pressure, extra time need to be given to students prior their exams etc... Some parents even counting the class time second by second, as they don't mean to let teacher take advantage of their fees by taking off class time 3 or 5 minutes earlier.

My aim for current is get all my students complete their grade 5 exams then I will leave for my actual aim, which is to become a pianist at lounge/pub, in the mean time, go for frontline artiste when the preparations and procedures are ready.

All the best to you all~!
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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Jun 9 2009, 10:38 PM)
i once skipped to g3 before, yes you are playing g3's song, but do you have the proficiency of that grade? side reading etc..
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My sight reading is quite poor LOL...oh well...no grades skipping for now.
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moyong, Yamaha P85 in malaysia is around RM2600.

Korg SP250 is RM2700 at CKmusic, which is a better one



thanks for the suggestion, trying to look for 88keys so that i can start playing full songs.... lolz i managed to play to zanarkand with a toycity RM299 piano but couldn't finish the song as there weren't enough keys laugh.gif

btw saw LP350 at CK music.... how much is that model selling at?

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QUOTE(hysteresis @ Jun 10 2009, 07:17 PM)
My sight reading is quite poor LOL
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It is quite normal. You can ask your teacher if he or she can get a book which is about sight reading. It will help you to improve a lot in sight reading test. Practice makes perfect.

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I think for baroque music, Bach's Invention and Sinfonias are great. My favourite being Invention number 13 not too hard to play and sinfonia 15. Just a response to the list of songs in the first few threads.
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Just enquire for course today, hope to start from the most basic..
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Just to share with everyone here on this guy in youtube: kylelandry
He's damn incredible with the piano...so much emotion and skill...
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QUOTE(hysteresis @ Jun 11 2009, 02:49 AM)
Just to share with everyone here on this guy in youtube: kylelandry
He's damn incredible with the piano...so much emotion and skill...
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I guess this is better. konstantin lifschitz You can get his video from youtube.

@Pooffster I think you will like it brows.gif He played a lot of Baroque music especially J.S Bach brows.gif

QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Jun 11 2009, 01:59 AM)
Just enquire for course today, hope to start from the most basic..
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Good luck! Hope you will enjoy your course soon.

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are there any play by ear pianist in lowyat.net?
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QUOTE(youjian @ Jun 11 2009, 06:45 PM)
are there any play by ear pianist in lowyat.net?
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there're probably many can play by ear...
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Hrm....
i would like to have some tips regarding keyboard...
i'm a classical pianist n now i would like to learn contempory....
i really no idea on it...
any webssite or blog that i could surf for it?
I juz like blank in my mind while I see there score without notes...
It juz give me chords n nid me to improvise it...
its really make me mad....
N i had to perform a song tis sat.... with chords given...
anyone can help?!

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QUOTE(uncontrolled @ Jun 12 2009, 12:27 PM)
Hrm....
i would like to have some tips regarding keyboard...
i'm a classical pianist n now i would like to learn contempory....
i really no idea on it...
any webssite or blog that i could surf for it?
I juz like blank in my mind while I see there score without notes...
It juz give me chords n nid me to improvise it...
its really make me mad....
N i had to perform a song tis sat.... with chords given...
anyone can help?!
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Wow... It is too late. What I can tell you is very little because you are not beside with me tongue.gif Let say the chord is C. If the song is in slow pace, your left hand is C G C. No need play too much like C G C D E. For right hand, just play the chord C E G, E G C or G C E. If the song is in fast pace, your right hand is in chord mode whereas your left hand is C C. Get the top note of your chord sounds near to the melody and sounds it. Why do not you seek help from your friends who have experience in this or being a pianist in church? They can help you a lot.
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Is 49 keys keyboard sufficient to play most of the songs?
I got myself Casio CTK-230
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QUOTE(moyong @ Jun 9 2009, 09:32 AM)
Hi, piano clan.....

finally there is a place for piano lovers to gather.... been searching for a place like this to discuss about pianos but mostly found guitar threads laugh.gif

Hi all....
still looking for a digital piano with 88keys >.< so far say the Yamaha P8 around RM3k.... anyone here own one of that model?

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I carry digital pianos and some models I have with 88 keys include those from Yamaha, Korg, Roland, M-Audio & Casio...

PM me for details, cheers.
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QUOTE(youjian @ Jun 11 2009, 06:45 PM)
are there any play by ear pianist in lowyat.net?
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u mean, they hit the keyboard keys with their ears?
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QUOTE(zzzxtreme @ Jun 17 2009, 10:06 AM)
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QUOTE(zzzxtreme @ Jun 22 2009, 09:18 AM)
u mean, they hit the keyboard keys with their ears?
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what they meant is the player is able to play the notes by just hearing the song/melody

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QUOTE(zzzxtreme @ Jun 22 2009, 09:18 AM)
u mean, they hit the keyboard keys with their ears?
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that's call play with ear... whistling.gif

so when you play by memory means you play using your memory? wow you can control your electone with your mind? notworthy.gif

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that's call play with ear... whistling.gif

so when you play by memory means you play using your memory? wow you can control your electone with your mind? notworthy.gif
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Hi all,
i just wanted to ask (*but not sure if this is the right thread to ask or not, anyway i'll try my luck *)

I've a 3.5 yo daughter, me & mywife are planning to send her to music school to learn piano, we need some recommendations.

At the moment, we plan to get a portable digital piano (or electone?)
for the child to practise/play at home b4 getting the actual piano
(sorry donno how to call it, noob here) as my home no space to put
the bigger piano & also plan to shift/move house in next 1~2 year
(very mafan to hire ppl to shift/move the piano & tune it again later)

So, i want to ask which model/type of portable digital piano is suitable ?

1. Korg SP-250 ? LP350 ?
2. Yamaha ? (donno which model)
3. Other brands ? (casio?)

Must i get a standard size one (full-size kb) ??
or smaller one also can ? if get smaller one, will it affect the child progress of learning ?

pls advice as i am totally noob in this area.. and sorry got any mis-wording
as i donno the music world jargon. and if can pls advice also each of the recommended price...

Thanks in advance. smile.gif

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korg SP250 can be gotten for RM2700 or less (after discount) from CK Music Imbi. Good sound, heavy touch.

LP350 is technically an SP250 with nice cabinet. If you can get it for around RM3400, I think it is good value!

Yamaha P85 SHOULD be priced around RM2500, although the touch is a bit lighter and it sounds a bit weak compared to SP250.

For the best sound on a budget, i totally recommend SP250! Yamahas are way overpriced in Malaysia.
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thanks for your valuable feedback...
will definate give CK music a visit in the near future.

how about other sifu of keyboard here ?
any diff view ?

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I've a 3.5 yo daughter, me & mywife are planning to send her to music school to learn piano, we need some recommendations.
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for 3.5 yo, you probably want to send your child to yamaha music school to join the JMC, which i recommend it over any other young children courses. due to the way JMC conducted the lesson, you'll need a keyboard to have rhythm to play around, and other sound for more fun. even if you insist a digital piano, 3.5 yo is too early to play on a weighted keyboard. i suggest a decent 61 keys keyboard that have rhythm backings (drum rhythms etc). i recommend yamaha over casio because of the speaker quality, probably around RM1000 you can get a very nice yamaha keyboard.

that's how i started, i played on an old yamaha electone since 4 years old before my father bought me yamaha piano at age of 7. since electones are pretty expensive and overkill for a total beginner which the path isn't even certain yet, that's why i recommend 61 keys keyboard over electones. after completed the basic courses, then only decide whether to buy an electone or a piano which depends on what your daughter wanted to play.
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QUOTE(little ice @ Jun 24 2009, 01:16 PM)
for 3.5 yo, you probably want to send your child to yamaha music school to join the JMC, which i recommend it over any other young children courses. due to the way JMC conducted the lesson, you'll need a keyboard to have rhythm to play around, and other sound for more fun. even if you insist a digital piano, 3.5 yo is too early to play on a weighted keyboard. i suggest a decent 61 keys keyboard that have rhythm backings (drum rhythms etc). i recommend yamaha over casio because of the speaker quality, probably around RM1000 you can get a very nice yamaha keyboard.

that's how i started, i played on an old yamaha electone since 4 years old before my father bought me yamaha piano at age of 7. since electones are pretty expensive and overkill for a total beginner which the path isn't even certain yet, that's why i recommend 61 keys keyboard over electones. after completed the basic courses, then only decide whether to buy an electone or a piano which depends on what your daughter wanted to play.
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little ice,

thanks for your valuable feeback !...
yes, me & my wife intent to send her to JMC programme of Yamaha.
For your recommendation of yamaha 61 keys keyboard, which model & location can i survey ?
(CK music website doesn't list yamaha under their product page, i guess their don't carry yamaha equip.)

btw, my sister's child is having a portable yamaha (not sure is a electone or kb, nor the model, but it sure has rhythm backings),
so when my child visited them, she is very happy and interest in getting her lil' finger on the keys, hence, i want to develop
her interest in piano.... smile.gif rolleyes.gif

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little ice,

thanks for your valuable feeback !...
yes, me & my wife intent to send her to JMC programme of Yamaha.
For your recommendation of yamaha 61 keys keyboard, which model & location can i survey ?
(ck music shud also hv the equipment right?)

btw, my sister's child is having a portable yamaha (not sure is a electone or kb, nor the model, but it sure has rhythm backings),
so when my child visited them, she is very happy and interest in getting her lil' finger on the keys, hence, i want to develop
her interest in piano.... smile.gif  rolleyes.gif
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you're welcome!

since you're sending your daughter to yamaha, why not just pay a visit to the yamaha store and have a look? anyway i wish i could provide more detailed recommendation of the keyboard model, as i didn't survey entry level~intermediate level keyboards for long long time. i'll post a few of my findings once i visit yamaha tomorrow. meanwhile i'll let others to recommend.

you might want to ask what's your sister's child playing on, and ask what's the price too, best to have your daughter to play on it just to see if she (or you) like the sound of it. oh and if you want to join yamaha, i recommend you to join retail branches than franchise branches if you can choose. there're only a few retails branches which is subang perade /kelana jaya/pelangi square/the curve.
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little ice,

ok, will visit their retail branch to see what is available and
what the potential teacher propose...... smile.gif

will pm u if i got any more q's to ask..smile.gif

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wfhan,

i tried the PSR-E413 today, with a price tag of RM1300 (if i see it correctly, but you can always ask for discount), is a very very good keyboard. it's as good as even if your child grown up the keyboard is still highly useable, the sound is quite good, the feel of the key is solid (beat casio keybaords i tried, including some more expensive ones), and lots of functions for a RM1000+ keyboard.

i've tried casio keyboard with more keys at 76keys, but at around RM1800~RM2000, it only pay for extra keys and maybe more tracks to record, but certainly the yamaha keyboard did impress me with the price it offer.

or, if you want to save even more, just for a 3.5yo child to learn, there're other yamaha keyboards priced around RM800~RM900 but less functions. however considering it's not a huge difference in price, i find the PSR-E413 is more worth it in the long run.

all in all, i'd suggest stay away from the really entry level keybaord (still priced at around RM700 which is not cheap), it doesn't offer a touch sensitive keys where you hit soft it'll sound soft, hit hard it'll sound loud, it'll be just the same volume no matter how you hit the keys.

official page for this keyboard.
http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/CDA/Conten...661&CTID=205100

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Hi guys n gals, need ur advice on purchasing eletronic piano.
I already stopped playing piano after come to kl study and work, it would be 10 years ago after my abrsm grade 8.
My budget is as low as possible. I always prefer those accustic type, but very hard if u rent room in kl. The price also not cheap compare my time.
My aim is to have those "feel". Keyboard is no no for me bcoz u can't control the sound and the forte piano feel.
I not very sure which one, but I think those who play piano should understand the 'feel' when hiting the keys.
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Hi guys n gals, need ur advice on purchasing eletronic piano.
I already stopped playing piano after come to kl study and work, it would be 10 years ago after my abrsm grade 8.
My budget is as low as possible. I always prefer those accustic type, but very hard if u rent room in kl. The price also not cheap compare my time.
My aim is to have those "feel". Keyboard is no no for me bcoz u can't control the sound and the forte piano feel.
I not very sure which one, but I think those who play piano should understand the 'feel' when hiting the keys.
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well, i would recommend the yamaha P140 anytime, sadly it's discontinued, even if it's still available, you're expecting RM5500 price tag - it worth the feel of the keys and the sound for the price alone, not like many clavinovas they have less feel but maybe more sound/functions + imitating real piano pedals. you have to buy another pedal for P140, however, i still miss the feel of the P140.

other than that, just go out and try to decide yourself. casio digital pianos generally cheaper, piano touch is pretty good but the sound not so good.
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Hi all,

I'm interested in learning keyboard.

Any place where i can pick up keyboard in johor bahru?

Most of the places i called only offer organ.

Thank you.
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Any good Piano recommendation for beginner? doesn't have to be very good..
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Any good Piano recommendation for beginner? doesn't have to be very good..
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if it doesn't need to be very good, might as well get a digital piano around RM2k~3k, casio are good.

i don't recommend anthing lower than, be it acoustic or digital piano, assuming if you want to learn "piano" but not "keyboard".
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here's a very basic question.

as a beginner... how many keys should i get? Cz there are 88, 76, 61....

which would be suitable for beginners? laugh.gif
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88-key is beneficial
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ya thats what i have in mind but... it seems all are above 2k..... lolz any budget 88 key?

also which would be a better choice? Yamaha, Korg or Casio... for beginner.
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i think casio CDP-100 could be had for RM1900 or less
it's full size weighted (slightly light touch though), 88 keys

so it depends on your budget. if you can stretch a bit, I recommend Korg SP250, RM2700 or less (after discount).

a Korg SP250 originally retails for US$800 overseas, a Yamaha P70 about $600, but in Malaysia, P70 sells for RM2500 and above. so SP250 is the best value budget digital piano
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I have a weighted key synthesizer already, come to think of it, I only use the acoustic piano sound 99% of the time, and the sample kinda bad to my ears. If I were to upgrade, do you think I should opt for acoustic or and stage piano instead?
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acoustic piano if you don't play after midnight.

the expressiveness is just so different

but a cheap acoustic is ugly. for the same price u can get a very nice sexy looking digital
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I have a weighted key synthesizer already, come to think of it, I only use the acoustic piano sound 99% of the time, and the sample kinda bad to my ears. If I were to upgrade, do you think I should opt for acoustic or and stage piano instead?
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what model is that? might be interested if u decide to sell wink.gif

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I have a weighted key synthesizer already, come to think of it, I only use the acoustic piano sound 99% of the time, and the sample kinda bad to my ears. If I were to upgrade, do you think I should opt for acoustic or and stage piano instead?
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then start to learn how to use the sounds. you need:

1. midi cable/converter (yamaha/edirol), if your keyboard can connect to PC using USB, skip this.
2. asio4all driver (freeware) http://www.asio4all.com
3. reaper (shareware multitrack midi/audio recorder) http://www.reaper.fm

then you're ready to learn about midi sequencing. as mentioned, if your keyboard is newer model and have USB connector, you don't need to spend any money at all and you can start to learn about midi.
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QUOTE(zzzxtreme @ Jul 22 2009, 04:05 PM)
acoustic piano if you don't play after midnight.

the expressiveness is just so different

but a cheap acoustic is ugly. for the same price u can get a very nice sexy looking digital
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so far i tried my relative old piano at his house which i think sound the most pleasant too me, although new yamaha upright model sounds very good too, but the price is too exp, however my relative prefer to let it dust at his house than selling it, many people like piano as decoration huh = ="

QUOTE(ajay67 @ Jul 22 2009, 06:37 PM)
what model is that? might be interested if u decide to sell wink.gif
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xD, i thought a keyboard should be handy at the time i need it

QUOTE(little ice @ Jul 22 2009, 08:19 PM)
then start to learn how to use the sounds. you need:

1. midi cable/converter (yamaha/edirol), if your keyboard can connect to PC using USB, skip this.
2. asio4all driver (freeware) http://www.asio4all.com
3. reaper (shareware multitrack midi/audio recorder) http://www.reaper.fm

then you're ready to learn about midi sequencing. as mentioned, if your keyboard is newer model and have USB connector, you don't need to spend any money at all and you can start to learn about midi.
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mine is a rather old model, have to buy midi connectors if were to play midi, my soundcard is kinda audiophile than for musician, so maybe have to buy midi --> usb, something like that. not sure if i wanna play about midi
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i think casio CDP-100 could be had for RM1900 or less
it's full size weighted (slightly light touch though), 88 keys

so it depends on your budget. if you can stretch a bit, I recommend Korg SP250, RM2700 or less (after discount).

a Korg SP250 originally retails for US$800 overseas, a Yamaha P70 about $600, but in Malaysia, P70 sells for RM2500 and above. so SP250 is the best value budget digital piano


so ummm.... is KORG weighted? also... i don't use the functions like digital pianos have just want to learn some basic piano songs..... i'll take a look at the KORG ^^ thanks
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yes korg sp250 is weighted. sames keys used in the very expensive Korg M3-88 :-)
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@moyong: if you're not a seasoned pianist/keyboardist, or rather just a beginner wanting to learn to play, i suggest you get a midi-keyboard... there's a variety of midi-keyboards to choose from. and if u must, there's also 88-key ones, m-audio keystation 88es (approx rm900). hook it up to your pc and with some freeware vsti, you can get the same learning experience. once you're good, then you can consider to upgrade.
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and if u must, there's also 88-key ones, m-audio keystation 88es (approx rm900). hook it up to your pc and with some freeware vsti, you can get the same learning experience.
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the thing is, you need a PC/laptop to do so, and a set of speakers. there're also latency, digital audio workstation. then the knowledge of being able to use the software and troubleshoot if anything goes wrong.

for a beginner, it'll be way overwhelm to learn such thing. stick to those keyboards with speakers, or digital pianos.
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ice, there's pretty much high chances that he/she has a computer and some multimedia speaker. if u talk about latency, i don't think he would really mind that lil bit of milisecond latency and taking a day or two to get a freeware sequencer setup and load in a couple of freeware vst. after all, he should be ready for a learning experience since he's wanting to learn to play songs, a lil detour shouldn't be a show stopper. anyway, this is just my opinion, wouldn't wanna waste my time either debating on this.
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laugh.gif i used to play with those toy city RM300 digital piano.... it broke hahah

thats why im considering to get a new 1..... umm about the midi keyboard thingy. it do not have a nice speaker only those cheap RM20 speakers (kinda lame right).

i'll consider casio and KORG.... any place to recommend to get one of these?
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hey guys, is it too late to learn piano at age of 19? i really wish i could play it. cry.gif
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hey guys, is it too late to learn piano at age of 19? i really wish i could play it.  cry.gif
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It's never too late smile.gif


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It's never too late smile.gif
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actually i learned playing piano b4 when i was still a kid. but last time i dun really understand music....every time my teacher came i just simply play only.....many years didnt play d, after seeing some videos in youtube feel like learning piano again!! tongue.gif
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hey guys, is it too late to learn piano at age of 19? i really wish i could play it. cry.gif


laugh.gif why do you say that......


btw i learned piano by following the keys played (from youtube videos) is this method good? because i don't know how to read notes nor play by ear >.<
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QUOTE(imjowen @ Jul 27 2009, 05:52 PM)
hey guys, is it too late to learn piano at age of 19? i really wish i could play it.  cry.gif
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Just started my keyboard lesson 1 month ago.


And i'm 24...

Play it as a hobby. smile.gif

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moyong, u get korg sp250 at CKMusic Jalan Imbi. they are the distributor also. i got it after discount RM2700. u might be able to get less.

somebody in lowyat will sell it at RM2600, but you have to pay full first before getting the item, personally I don't know if I can trust that kind of deal.
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moyong, u get korg sp250 at CKMusic Jalan Imbi. they are the distributor also. i got it after discount RM2700. u might be able to get less.

somebody in lowyat will sell it at RM2600, but you have to pay full first before getting the item, personally I don't know if I can trust that kind of deal.


you mean we have to pay first then collect the item O.o thats weird..... don't they have a shop?
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pay first is "a seller" in lowyat

the "Seller" is a dealer only

get it from the shop at CKMusic Jln Imbi. you can test kaw kaw the sp250 on display

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laugh.gif test kaw kaw..... i heard of CKmusic's website before.... will check it out.... thanks for the recommendation
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here is a video of my recital =D
Im the one on the left( white tie )
the piece is called "piano Battle" from secret =D!!

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belowaverage, that's so good !
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Wow!! Exellent! rclxms.gif
How I wish I could play such beautiful rhythms by the keys too.. sad.gif
But I know nothing about it.. Because my stingy dad just doesn't want to sponsor me to attend classes nor buying a piano/keyboard for me.. cry.gif
And I just got a job recently, finally be able to buy a keyboard for myself and cover the keyboard's class fees.. rclxm9.gif
So could anyone here teach me how should I start my keyboardist journey please? notworthy.gif
Should I buy a keyboard first? Then which model is suitable for a beginner like me?
I'm already 20 years old hope is not too late.. sad.gif
I would like to play more variety music not only classical piano and my budget is not over 3k..
Or should I find a teacher first?
Please give me some advice thank you.. biggrin.gif
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fishysashimi, get a Korg SP250 from CKMusic Jln Imbi. RM2700 or less after discount

when u start piano class, u'll be able to choose either classical, pop or jazz

with classical u will have the skills in reading music. with jazz u will have the skills to write music


and for music lessons, find a teacher that gives u at least 1 hour per lesson. many schools now only gives you 30 minutes, which is NONSENSE

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Korg SP250 seems not much function can play.. hmm.gif
I thought Yamaha sounds nicer?
Does Jazz class teach me to play guitars sounds, drum sounds, organ sounds or fluet sounds by keyboard too?
Have classes more than 1 hour? laugh.gif
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fishy, if u want all that, most don't come with 88 keys
most 88 keys have basic sounds (for under $3K)

learn piano FIRST, get a piano first. and korg sp250 is best for the money under $3K.

a yamaha P70 is around RM2.6K, but the touch is too light and sounds not so thick as the sp250.

i owned both before.
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I like to play lots difference sounds.. But many expert advice me to learn piano first.. May I know why? blink.gif
Learn to read music sheet is it important?
But I don't think I'll have the patience to take piano exam.. sweat.gif

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different sounds u can add later, its not as important as learning and improving your skills
that should be your priority
reading sheet is important, imagine the songs u can play with so many books out there for you to buy/download if u know how to read music
and piano exam is NOT neccessary.

so you NEED 88 keys , it will widen your choice of music.

if u want 88 keys with plenty function, prepare to fork out RM7000
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are there classes which teach how to play by ear?

is that better compare to play by reading?
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I believe able to read notes equals to ability to read your story book, rather than you can just speak and language without understanding it, music theory is backbone of everything you are listening
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if play by ear, u're limited, unless you're extremely gifted

if u can read notes, there's so much songs to read out there


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I thought of self-learning also.. Because piano class seems boring.. yawn.gif
1 of friend attend piano class for around 1year+.. But she's still playing those kids songs.. sweat.gif
Any "not so boring" class recommend?
I'll learn to read note for sure.. icon_rolleyes.gif

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oh ya what about you give ur piano teacher a musical song.... (the notes) and ask them to teach you that song.... and together with the notes.... anyone tried that?
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yup, find a good teacher :-)

fishy, u will have to learn boring kids songs for at least a year la. that is the path to piano learning

after that, tell your teacher u want to learn pop if u like pop


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yup, find a good teacher :-)

fishy, u will have to learn boring kids songs for at least a year la. that is the path to piano learning

after that, tell your teacher u want to learn pop if u like pop
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KID SONGS A YEAR?!!! NO WAY!! cry.gif

What if I spend more time to practice? can skip that 1 year? sad.gif
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KID SONGS A YEAR?!!! NO WAY!!  cry.gif

What if I spend more time to practice? can skip that 1 year?  sad.gif
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beginner songs are very simple, thus they sound like kid songs. unless you want to skip beginner stage, but that won't lead you anywhere.

learning music is like learning language. if you want to learn a new language, you'll be learning something like "i am a boy/girl" "my name is xxx" "good morning" "i am eating dinner". they're simple, that's why they sound like kinder garden's level.
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QUOTE(little ice @ Jul 29 2009, 06:01 PM)
beginner songs are very simple, thus they sound like kid songs. unless you want to skip beginner stage, but that won't lead you anywhere.

learning music is like learning language. if you want to learn a new language, you'll be learning something like "i am a boy/girl" "my name is xxx" "good morning" "i am eating dinner". they're simple, that's why they sound like kinder garden's level.
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Oh okay~ sad.gif
I think I would have a hard time before I reach the level to be able to play many function keyboard..
So any good teacher recommend in Kepong/PJ area?
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fishy, just be patient lor. u will discover the joy of playing music :-)
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Oh okay~  sad.gif
I think I would have a hard time before I reach the level to be able to play many function keyboard..
So any good teacher recommend in Kepong/PJ area?
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I'll enjoy if not playing kids songs.. laugh.gif
Feel quite ashame.. So old only learn piano tongue.gif
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aiyo how old are you? are you the one in your avatar's photo?

there're aunties and uncles in the mid 30's also try to learn piano as a beginner lol.
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aiyo how old are you? are you the one in your avatar's photo?

there're aunties and uncles in the mid 30's also try to learn piano as a beginner lol.
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I'm 20 yo.. Ya.. but this photo I took it last year..

Oh really? Haha.. But I'll try my best to practice hard to pass the stage of playing piano like a kid..

Can't wait to buy a piano for myself.. rclxm9.gif
But have to wait after September because I'm having busy work right now.. It's torturing me!!
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I'll enjoy if not playing kids songs..  laugh.gif
Feel quite ashame.. So old only learn piano  tongue.gif
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I'm 20 yo.. Ya.. but this photo I took it last year..

Oh really? Haha.. But I'll try my best to practice hard to pass the stage of playing piano like a kid..

Can't wait to buy a piano for myself.. rclxm9.gif
But have to wait after September because I'm having busy work right now.. It's torturing me!!
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it's never too late, just the matter of having the passion and being hardworking.

don't worry, if you're hardworking enough, you'll skim through the beginner stage in just few months.
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here is a video of my recital =D
Im the one on the left( white tie )
the piece is called "piano Battle" from secret =D!!

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wow, belowaverage is super good.....u did a fantastic job bro, congrats!! rclxms.gif

QUOTE(FishySashimi @ Jul 29 2009, 07:23 PM)
I'm 20 yo.. Ya.. but this photo I took it last year..

Oh really? Haha.. But I'll try my best to practice hard to pass the stage of playing piano like a kid..

Can't wait to buy a piano for myself.. rclxm9.gif
But have to wait after September because I'm having busy work right now.. It's torturing me!!
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im 19 yo...wanting to get bak into piano also after 4 years of stopping. hope i can play as good as belowaverage somedays. tongue.gif
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lolz im 21 and i want to learn piano.... hmm how about those Yamaha centres? are those good places to go find music lessons?

how much do these classes cost anyways (so far the discussion didn't mention about class rates laugh.gif)
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moyong, if im not mistaken, yamaha lessons now only 30 minutes?

should be around RM80 for beginner.

look for 1hour-per-session lessons

and if u decide to choose a yamaha school, make sure you choose the day of week where there are less holidays. they don't ganti lesson if it falls on a holiday.

anyway, i "prefer to recommend" private teachers. look in newspapers
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yamaha individual lessons are expensive. beginner individual piano lesson is RM110 for beginner, 30mins per week. however, you're paying for the management and the environment. whether it's worth it or not, it's up to your decision. my opinion is, getting a good teacher is priceless. if you happened to find a good teacher at yamaha, just stick with it.

by the way fishy, didn't know you actually shoot photos for advertisements lol.
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I found some old thread in lowyet which talking about the Play By Ear lesson centre in Subang Jaya, wondering the class is still available or not.. Anybody have information about it?

Oh my god! little ice how did you know?!
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hmm.... 30mins only eh.... thats kinda short and expensive. I stay in setia alam and there's a yamaha store here so i thought of taking classes there but since you said that.... i think i'll search for other alternatives..
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I found some old thread in lowyet which talking about the Play By Ear lesson centre in Subang Jaya, wondering the class is still available or not.. Anybody have information about it?
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i believe they're still around, but i won't recommend it and that's just me.

basically, it teach you how to listen and play it out, or play independent from music scores/books, or simply learn by your ear. however, that still won't work if you don't have fundamental knowledges on music. play by ear is basically like listening and speaking in a language class, and work much less on paper works like writings and comprehensions.

however, that said, if you'd like to just play for fun, then it might be the one for you. problem with play by ear, IMHO, is that they teach very casually. you'll find having problem to play flashy stuffs because the lack of proper teachniques and understanding about music theory.

now, i might be wrong with the above statements, simply because i don't know anything about Play By Ear course. i only saw those Play By Ear concerts uploaded on youtube, and judge by how they play. isn't it the result that matters? wink.gif

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Oh my god! little ice how did you know?!
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finding private teacher can be real hard, unless you have through someone's contact, anyone having any? I was still reluctant to sign up for piano course in most centers, some teachers when i look at her I dont felt convinced to be taught by him/her. I used to have like hmm, 3 piano teachers before..
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HI guys , how do i get my left hand to just play 1 2 3 4 while my right hand play the melody. I dont seem to get it, i get confuse very fast . AAAARRGH
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belowaverage, that's so good !
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wow, belowaverage is super good.....u did a fantastic job bro, congrats!! rclxms.gif
im 19 yo...wanting to get bak into piano also after 4 years of stopping. hope i can play as good as belowaverage somedays. tongue.gif
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wow thanks alot XD
I just post the video and forgotten to visit this thread XD

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I found some old thread in lowyet which talking about the Play By Ear lesson centre in Subang Jaya, wondering the class is still available or not.. Anybody have information about it?

Oh my god! little ice how did you know?!
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i agre with little ice, i dont agree with it.
Nobody really taught me to play by ear, but it camed naturally.

After many many many years of piano lessons, extensive amount of theory, and Yamaha courses too, i was able to play by ear.
But not just buta buta play, but understanding each chord, structure, cadence, progression, everything.
Well, im not saying im a pro, but once u get the fundemental/basic down, u will enventually understand the deep concept of playing by ear.

When u go for their short courses, Yes, u can play by ear, but for a limited kind of song, and understand of nothing bout the chords,key,progress, the why's, and everything.

Well, that's just me XD
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How do you play CGE chord, I cant reach !!
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How do you play CGE chord, I cant reach !!
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If you cannot reach it, do not play the three notes at the same time. Just play it separately with the aid of your wrist but in time.
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1. by using both hands
2. play separately while pressing the pedal.


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I was looking for a piano thread after 2341246 guitar threads hanging around here. Any challenging scores to share anyone?
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Any challenging scores to share anyone?
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chopin etude op. 10 #1 in C major.





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How to join tis club? i dont have piano...
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naughtyz, the registration fee is RM10. bank in to me and you're in !
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chopin etude op. 10 #1 in C major.




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opus 25 no 12 better

SOmemore got lenglui wear sexi for u see whistling.gif

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chopin etude op. 10 #1 in C major.

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Can you play this?
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This is a tough arrangement by Rimsky-Korskakov, you will know what piece is this. tongue.gif



Performer is Yuja Wang from Beijing, China.
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Can you play this?
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of course no.

cause you asked for challenging scores, so...
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isn't rachmaninoff no.3 one of the toughest?
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What song?
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Hi guys. I have a basic piano knowledge and I used to play on a normal piano. Now I want to start play some music on the keyboard.

I intend to play classical musics and some modern eloctronics stuffs as well. Is there any keyboard that can also produce synthesizer's sounds? Something that is kind of versatile and costs less than RM 1k..

Can anyone please give me some suggestions on what instrument model should I buy? I don't mind some old models as maybe I can find a second hand model over the internet.

Thanks.

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hey can anyone let me know where can i get the music sheet of this piece the little gal is playing..

please really need the sheet..thanks
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hi zzzxtreme:

is there any below 1k 88sx keyboards?.. i am just a beginner. i dun go any tuition class, but my friend teach me a lot, he recommend me to buy a m-audio 88sx for plactice and he say a 88 keys one can last to play long, but the price seem @.@ to me, i know my budget is very limited...
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Keyboard make me confused.....keys are so difrent
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Keyboard make me confused.....keys are so difrent
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what do you mean different? their "layout" is exactly like a piano. just whether it's 66 or 88 keys, OR light-weighted or heavy-weighted keys.


anyway, hello everyone. i'm a classically trained pianist too. finished my grade 8 about 6 years ago. now i play contemporary style. hehe. i own a kurzwell SP-88.

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Just bought a ciplak 61keys keyboard (newbie). Hmm, will I be able to play 88keys piano in future?
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Just bought a ciplak 61keys keyboard (newbie). Hmm, will I be able to play 88keys piano in future?
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yup, it's the same exactly with more key, and different touch feel. theory is the same, hitting the same note gives u the same note
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yup, it's the same exactly with more key, and different touch feel. theory is the same, hitting the same note gives u the same note
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lol.. i am emphasizing on the note, at least u can learn proper theory with any keyboard, C major sounds the same in a real piano or any keyboard.

sad thing my vocal instructor quit, thinking to switch to piano lesson or not. swt.. had 3 instructors so far, dont know why everyone dont teach for long
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just get my self keystation 44 key...hv to use pc software to use it like fruty loops
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hello clans, i jus bought a 76keys yamaha keyboard recently and joined in a keyboard classes, actually my tutor was specialised in organ teaching...

I dunno if im on the right path, cause i intended to play piano in the 1st.. go for keyboard as the substitute for piano instead... I dun mind learning pop or classical , but as i going through the classes of my tutor, i found that majority of the classes lets my left hand in free, i mean my left hand are left just doing chords...

Is it the same for piano lessons? i was just learning for 1months, my left hand was just playing the C , G and F Chords... and my right hand was just playing the 5 keys over and over again... is it a very slow progress? i have no basics and fundamentals on music as well...

can anyone give me a clear guidance on this? i dun mind taking long time to learn to play, but i need to know whether im on the right path biggrin.gif

thanks

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QUOTE(da3xiah @ Aug 31 2009, 04:26 PM)
what do you mean different? their "layout" is exactly like a piano. just whether it's 66 or 88 keys, OR light-weighted or heavy-weighted keys.
anyway, hello everyone. i'm a classically trained pianist too. finished my grade 8 about 6 years ago. now i play contemporary style. hehe. i own a kurzwell SP-88.
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the sound is difrent lor...
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^I agree with naughtyz.

The sounds totally off. sad.gif

I bought a 66 keys as well, end up selling it coz the sounds totally off.. doh.gif

Anyway, still looking for an upwards 88keys piano less than 2k. I stopped at grade 3 sad.gif coz of time. Now I got time, but no piano to learn.
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casio cdp100 - rm1900 and below
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i try my frenz roland..dunno wat model...can store beat inside...somemore can download sample inside...rm20k or.......i wish i rich
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I remember a shop in sg.wang selling various of music instruments.
I wonder anyone know what shop? Is it recommended to get piano there?

Or should I go to the shops in Endah Parade? tongue.gif
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I remember a shop in sg.wang selling various of music instruments.
I wonder anyone know what shop? Is it recommended to get piano there?

Or should I go to the shops in Endah Parade? tongue.gif
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But Worth of Traveling if the diffrent of selling price is more than 20%
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuyScCozIFA
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awesome..
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QUOTE(don8ld @ Sep 18 2009, 09:26 PM)
wow, you have a grand in your house, lol the recording aint that clear for the audio, too much echo for me, you play well
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Thank you very much.
Yes I do agree that the audio quality is pretty crappy , I will try to invest in a new camcorder soon.
Yeah, it's a Boston Baby Grand to be exact.

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there is one piano shop over in plaza ampang/city square,is that place still open???
they sell new and used(refurbished)piano..
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there is one piano shop over in plaza ampang/city square,is that place still open???
they sell new and used(refurbished)piano..
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well, whole city square closed down for renovation, that's why music shop like euro music also moved to jalan imbi cause the renovation will take at least 2 years to complete (and i believe it's already a year since the close down).
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i want ur grand piano XD
how much u buy
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post Sep 24 2009, 04:54 PM

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RM7x,xxx??? WOW...i hope they do easy payment 0 % if want to buy
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post Sep 24 2009, 04:58 PM

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post Sep 24 2009, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(don8ld @ Sep 24 2009, 04:58 PM)
Comment on my playing not my piano lol doh.gif
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polish your right leg. wink.gif
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post Oct 4 2009, 01:15 AM

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Hey, I'm a keyboardist. So here I am, a newbie member. Since I smashed my M50 at Sunset Bistro, I'm kinda looking for 2 keyboards.

Starting with a heavy touch minimum 61 keys. Hopefully an 88 for octave runs. Not too expensive. RM5k perhaps? Since this will be my core keyboard, I rather not focus too much on synths and stuff. More to the sound of the Grand Piano, Strings, Brass and Organs. Any good ones to recommend?

I'll have to save up for my upper deck keyboard in the future.
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post Oct 4 2009, 06:03 PM

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use keyboard can use pedal ar?
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post Oct 4 2009, 11:07 PM

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use keyboard can use pedal ar?
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why not.


Added on October 4, 2009, 11:15 pm70k =(?!
OMG, ur parents must love u like heaven!!!

when i grow up, im going to save 20k to buy a baby grand =D


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post Oct 5 2009, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(don8ld @ Sep 24 2009, 04:58 PM)
Comment on my playing not my piano lol doh.gif
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haha not bad, at least the song is flowing
but why everyone who watched your video must be labeled as noob =/
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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Oct 5 2009, 10:08 AM)
haha not bad, at least the song is flowing
but why everyone who watched your video must be labeled as noob =/
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Aiya...tell ppl noob is not good o....
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post Oct 5 2009, 06:02 PM

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Aiya...tell ppl noob is not good o....
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then what is good? unsure.gif
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anywhere to get piano chair..cheap 1 is good enuf
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post Oct 6 2009, 06:31 AM

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Use a stool from your kitchen is good enough.
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Hi people,

Sorry, I may be stepping into the wrong place with an off track request... tongue.gif
But I would like to ask if there are any keyboardist from Penang here would like to join my band smile.gif
Currently its my singer and I (guitarist) and we play mainstream songs for weddings and gigs, plus an occasional cafe/hotel settings.
We are looking for someone dedicated to cover with the keys...
PM me if intrested ya!

*my apology to IlDivinCodino for the mix up smile.gif**

Thanks
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QUOTE(cyclone9 @ Oct 5 2009, 07:33 PM)
anywhere to get piano chair..cheap 1 is good enuf
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I want to ask the same thing too...I am looking for piano chair that is height adjustable smile.gif
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Added on April 24, 2008, 2:16 am
You cant judge the quality based on the country its made. They usually produce products in a China because the cost is cheaper, cost like factory rental and the salary of the worker, but that does not mean that it is low quality. (Original Sony Playstation parts are made from China too laugh.gif )

Steinway & Sons is my dream piano too! Many performers I saw in youtube are using Steinway & Sons piano too. I saw somebody selling a second hand S&S grand piano for about RM130k ohmy.gif can buy one house already

Many people say that Yamaha is expensive because of its brand name, but not because of its quality. I wonder if its true
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Steinways & Sons is the best but it is not the best of the best. read the book about the steinway history and u know why they are popular today. beside steinways there are other big players like Bechstein, Faziolli, Bluthner, Bosendorfer, Grotrian which are in the same league, if not better. to me S&S is just another Euro-Version of the Yamaha popularity, of coz S&S is good just overrated.


Added on November 14, 2009, 3:54 pm
QUOTE(little ice @ May 5 2008, 02:45 PM)
absolutely. everytime a piano is moved from one place to another the tuning will be off a little.

you can tune now, but it'll be wasted.
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no worries, dont tune it first. let the piano settle itself in the new place before tuning the piano. if the piano is in good condition, piano doesnt go out becuase of moving. it goes out of tune because the change of climate. HUMIDITY. wood contract or expand thus changing the strings' tension. if piano goes out of tune just becuase of moving (by professional piano mover) than a concert pianist who have strongs finger banging on the piano will not be able to play his pieces smoothly. he would need to stop half-way many times to let the tuner tunes it back to pitch before continuing. smile.gif most modern pianos are very well built and tough and can hold a substantial force however, humidity causing the wood is just too great. when a wood expand it is really something... cool2.gif

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hi guys,
im new to lowyart forum and accidentally found this, err.. 'club'?
lol can i join? =D

btw this is one of my piano playing being recorded down last year March:

Flight of Bumblebee (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL-ugg6ghCY)



very blur version indeed, recorded using w850i.




UPDATE: any idea why my video doesn't show up? i used the code {youtube} <my youtube link> {/youtube}.

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QUOTE(onelove89 @ Apr 9 2008, 10:44 PM)
yeah i'm trying to improve after 5 years or so of not touching classical pieces haha, been playing in church though, but its all chords. needa repolish my skills =D

trying to unlock that skill, trying to tell my left hand not to follow my right xD but they are such good friends~~ lalala xD

basically practising some songs, but i think i jump the cue too fast >< cos my fingers are still stiff and coordinations are kinda off, plus, my sight reading is really bad now T.T sob~ practising liszt songs which are full of arpegios and scales >< finger tangling. Practising Liebestraum , very nice song ^^ romantic piece and I gave up on la campanella cos its too hard >.< might try again later when i repolish everything.
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LOL speaking of campanella, i started playing piano last year and i manage 2 play campanella til the beginning of the 3rd page hahahahaa.... i got no basics so i couldn't play the scales.. and notes that required to play with 3rd and 4th finger is really to hard for noobs like me hahahaha
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QUOTE(OMGuanyin @ Dec 16 2009, 04:35 PM)
LOL speaking of campanella, i started playing piano last year and i manage 2 play campanella til the beginning of the 3rd page hahahahaa.... i got no basics so i couldn't play the scales.. and notes that required to play with 3rd and 4th finger is really to hard for noobs like me hahahaha
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You can still play campanella. Me??

Worst. Simple pop pieces, I also can't play.


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hi guys.. can u help me at this thread?
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1266283
im just starting to learn to play.
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Hey guys..jz wondering..i wanna learn hw to play they keyboard..can any1 tell me where to learn at around cyberjaya or seri kembangan area where they have good keyboard lesson? or any LYN keyboard fan willing to teach me hw to play =p..treat u yam cha nxt time haha xD
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how often should u use the una corda pedal? only when indicated?

for romantic pieces i only follow directions,
but i just realized i might've been mis-using or overusing it in some classical pieces esp the slower sonata movts with no una corda notations

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I'm a bad piano player but a fair synthesizer player lol. Been rarely practice now.. maybe I'm starting to lose a little bit interest.
Anyone else here play a synth?
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QUOTE(fender @ Dec 29 2009, 10:55 PM)
I'm a bad piano player but a fair synthesizer player lol. Been rarely practice now.. maybe I'm starting to lose a little bit interest.
Anyone else here play a synth?
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not me, but i lost interest from time to time.

Sometimes i wonder am i meant to paly the piano

Sometimes i wonder am i talented enuf since everybody around me is waaay talented

Sometimes i just want to give up

Sometimes i feel that is impossible

but other times i cant stop playing

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QUOTE(fender @ Dec 29 2009, 10:55 PM)
I'm a bad piano player but a fair synthesizer player lol. Been rarely practice now.. maybe I'm starting to lose a little bit interest.
Anyone else here play a synth?
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i'm the far opposite, i just can't do anything on the synthy other than sustained chords as 'fillers' in a band

now and then i try to play chords or improvise as solo keyboardist, but i'm so bad at it i'm back to classical piano in a few minutes
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QUOTE(FinFin @ Nov 15 2009, 05:35 AM)
hi guys,
im new to lowyart forum and accidentally found this, err.. 'club'?
lol can i join? =D

btw this is one of my piano playing being recorded down last year March:

Flight of Bumblebee (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL-ugg6ghCY)



very blur version indeed, recorded using w850i.


UPDATE: any idea why my video doesn't show up? i used the code {youtube} <my youtube link> {/youtube}.
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Ehr, you used the embedded code or the url?
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QUOTE(dopeycheese @ Dec 29 2009, 01:03 AM)
how often should u use the una corda pedal? only when indicated?

for romantic pieces i only follow directions,
but i just realized i might've been mis-using or overusing it in some classical pieces esp the slower sonata movts with no una corda notations
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If there is the direction, you should use the pedal. If no, you can use it too but depends on the situation. Difficult to explain it. Normally, the reasons to use the pedal are make the phrase didn't break on the half way, help you to play through certain part easier ( this may due to the notes' distance ), create a hazy atmosphere and so on. The most important is learn from your experience. Play more pieces. You will learn more from them.

About the classical pieces that you mentioned. If you think the phrase being broke, you can use the pedal to join it. You must dare to try out. Don't afraid. First time with the pedal. Second time without the pedal. If you feel using full pedal makes the piece noisy, try to use half pedal. Sometimes, we only change the pedal after a note being played. Not together with the note and not at the second beat too. That means between the two notes. It is used to join the notes. However, we do change the pedal at the second and fourth beat sometimes. Hence, you need to listen carefully whether the piece sounds nicer with pedal or not. From here, you can learn how to play by ear. Not like some pianists who only know how to play a piece according to notes but didn't aware how does his or her playing sound like.

Actually, the concept is same with the usage of rubato. Although the composer didn't indicate it, you can add it. Maybe yours might be different with others. Don't worried. You won't be deducted mark during exam because everyone has its own interpretation. As soon as it is acceptable, nothing is wrong.



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er, una corda is the soft pedal, i'm just a bit worried coz i excused myself when my piano wasn't tuned, keys were too soft to play effective dynamics, so i used it to get the sound i wanted, now that my piano's tuned, i've had to review my use of una corda, might be losing my control for soft dynamics sad.gif or maybe lousy piano =P

as for sustaining pedal, yea i agree it takes experience to be able to tell when to use it, i was playing back my old grade 8 pieces, they certainly didn't ask to use it throughout the piece, so i didn't during exam, sounds horrible now i when i try without sustain. now sustain pedal it indispensable to me, which might be a problem too.

when i saw some pros using the sustain pedal (albeit sporadically) for a bach prelude/fugue, i was like shocking.gif
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Hello,I know this is a long shot, but I just began playing (more like began toughing) keyboard about two weeks ago. I cannot read musical sheets, and just play according to muscular memory and Youtube instructions. Until now, I have been able to play Gymnopedie No 2, a simplified version of Canon, Dearly Beloved (Kingdom Hearts) and Night Time (Mr Magorium Wonder Emporium).

Just wondering, do you think I should learn this piece and perform it as a background music in about four days? Everyone kept on saying since I just began touching an instrument I should not... But I think why shouldn't I?

Killing me Softly - Easy Accompanist Version http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXQ883i7ZXQ


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