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Andy214
post Apr 10 2008, 11:22 AM

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Nobody mentioned "Suteki Da Ne"???
Anyway, I really like this version arranged by mosnterpanda (a self-taught musician)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0A3FoVjPYtI

He also do a collaboration duet video with a guitarist for it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMcA2OO00zs

The above video is old, the recording isn't good. His latest video Compilations of FF and some other is in STEREO, it's really good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6ef9ozh4sc

He has also learned to make use of his keyboard features, watch the video, Angela Aki - Sakurairo:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cvBGPfmRqM


Lastly, another great song nobody mentioned:-
Chrono Tigger - 600 A.D.
In the Compilation video I posted above does include this song, but I like most is the arrangement by "kLuTz", superb!!! So different from the original yet so nice, 4 different arrangements, the last arrangement is the hardest to play, so complicated.

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post Apr 10 2008, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(icypetals @ Apr 10 2008, 02:15 PM)
i wasnt fairly impressed by the suteki dane video, but the second video with the guitarist was good!
LoL, the second video is the same as the first video, just added duet by the guitarist mainly on the melody.
What I like is his way of arrangement, is very different from the original piano compilation, to me, his arrangement feels more lively, more oomph, more feel and there's few parts which makes your adrenaline running, bulu roma naik, etc. The sound quality is very poor tough.
Anyway, it's just what I feel. Some prefer the original piano compilcations (which is pretty different from the actual song; his arrangement is more close or similar to the original song).

By the way, there're few parts from his arrangement feels wierd or different from normal pianist, feels like guitar strumming style. He was a guitarist afterall, self-taught. He also plays violin, and some other instruments.

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post Apr 11 2008, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(x-crusader @ Apr 10 2008, 09:30 PM)
i said im a noob pianist coz...
i've been learning piano for over 15 yrs...
but my skills still.... doh.gif
but still...
we r musicians...
so thr is no noob or pro...
juz music lovers...
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QUOTE(little ice @ Apr 10 2008, 10:13 PM)
i've been playing piano for 20 years, and I still can't perfectly play a simple piece, even a pop song. sweat.gif

you're not alone. icon_idea.gif
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It depends what do you mean by "noob", if you're talking about playing ability, then it's usualyl about practice and familiarisation with the piano/keyboard.

If you're talking about music understandings, etc. and you want to be able to play contemporary/pop songs, able to understand how it works, etc, you might want to visit "Play By Ear" for a preview/demo on their course. They teach you music using the keyboard/piano, launching beginner eletric guitar instruments soon, but their main subject is teaching music, how to capture melody by ear, catch the chords in the song and also creating the chords based on the medody. Playing music is about hearing and feeling.

I know some will be skeptical or be negative about it, but I'm just sharing with everyone that there is such a course, and worth to have a look at. They're on the papers a few times, featured in Malaysia Books of Records for the founders wedding with over 60 pianist playing, they even have a Datin which graduated their level 2 course. Recently, they're also recognize by the London School Of Music (I think) and you can actually get cert and recognized playing contemporary songs without notes.
Recently, I went for their Music Festival for guitar launch, was so touched they have a blind student play on stage. The playing was so smooth and never hit a wrong key, he only learned for about 2 years.
Somehow even tough there're students which play more complicated songs and arrangements, but the music played by the blind student was way better, more feel and oomph. Maybe that's what truly playing by hearing and feeling.

QUOTE(onelove89 @ Apr 10 2008, 10:28 PM)
yeah... we are all musicians ^^ anyway, i learn piano since 5, well mom ask me to give it a try and i tried it till now =D anyway, piano is basic in music? >.< is there such thing?
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Piano is an instruments. It's easy to begin with but very (if not extremely) difficult to master. IMO, it's the 2nd most powerful instruments, the 1st being the Organ. Tough, I read many site saying piano is "arguably" the most powerful instruments.


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post Apr 11 2008, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(icypetals @ Apr 11 2008, 10:42 AM)
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why everytime got piano thread u advertise ur bussniss doh.gif  doh.gif

anyway, WElcome to the cword Andy214!
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Wa lao, what my business. I'm also a student only. I was just recommending to people, sharing what we have. Aisheh man, so charm, sharing things but kena say as advertise pulak. doh.gif doh.gif
Plus, I'm impressed that the founder created this formula/course and he's a Malaysian, now recognized in UK Music School. They also have a very good ex-guitarist and now Jerry Felix the drummer in their team.

I never even ask anyone to promote my name to the centre which I could get discount if I invite people. rclxub.gif
Sharing things become being advertising.... never even I get any benefit from it... rclxub.gif

Anyway, I just hope many people would have more fun learning music... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 11 2008, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(little ice @ Apr 11 2008, 01:01 PM)
yamaha courses are pretty good on play by ears. they don't advertise as such but they do train your ears as part of their courses. they're especially useful if you train since small kid. smile.gif

andy would you roughly describe what kind of stuffs Play By Ears will teach?
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Well, let's be fair, all courses are good. It all falls in each persons need and views.

The "Play By Ear" course I mentioned was meant for contemporary/pop songs. For those who wish to learn classical would not be suitable but of course you can also took up both.

There're many types of modern teaching methods which are suitable for contemporary songs, this "Play By Ear" is just another, but it is founded by our own local Malaysian, and he has created many proven formula and teaching method.

Basically, this "Play By Ear" teaches you music, how to capture melody, creating chords based on melody, feeling and hearing, etc via an instrument, currently the Piano/Keyboard, and soon to be available eletric and bass guitar.
You don't learn notes, of course you can learn, but you don't rely on notes. For in depth note reading and sight reading, you'll have to pickup yourself but it isn't recommended in the course as they don't encourage you to read notes.
How they teach you is to let you listen to a song, and you learn how to create the melody and they slowly "GUIDE" you how to understand and creating chords.

The 1st level will only have 20 classes, teaching you the 3 major chord mainly, which is enough to play many songs. They also allow you to choose 1 or 2 song of your own and they'll guide you on how to go play it, create your own arrangement, styles, etc.

Level 2 is more on bassing ideas, accompaniment, etc. In level 2 you'll learn about all other chords, but it's tough for me as yuo'll start to learn a lot on the left hand bassing idea, which I believe many have trouble with the left hand. You'll also learn many different styles like Latin, Jazz, etc...

I haven't take up Level 3 yet, personally, I feel my playing isn't smooth and good enough. Because of that, I'm struggling in level 2 trying to coordinate both my left and right hands. But I can say level 2 open up a lot of possibilities and more in depth understanding, much much more than Level 1. Level 1 is more for total beginners, but you explore many different style of playing, arrangements and they let you be creative and create your own style for each song. So for each song, you'll see different style from each person, which is nice.

If you want to know more, just inquire for a preview, they don't charge you anyway. They also have a VCD explaining about their courses, etc.

Anyway, it's an interesting to find out and learn, I just want to share it out and hope more people can learn music in their own fun way. For me, I love to play contemporary songs, or should say, when I listen to a song, I feel like playing it on the piano. This course is very suitable for me.

There're also some which has dropped out from conventional piano lessons which they find no interest mainly because they wanted to play contemporary songs only but they hardly get a chance to understand and play, also some which has been confused, once took up the course for few classes, suddenly everything become so clear. So, for this, I can say, the have learnt a lot but they need someone who can help them fix the puzzle.
So maybe for those having problem after years of learning, might want have a look at it and then decide.

Anybody watch Mr. Holland Opus? It was recommended by the founder, I watch it and was very touched by it. Here's some of the quote from the movie:

"Playing music is supposed to be fun. It's about heart, it's about feelings, moving people, and something beautiful, and it's not about notes on a page. I can teach you notes on a page, I can't teach you that other stuff. "

"A teacher has two jobs; fill young minds with knowledge, yes, but more important, give those minds a compass so that that knowledge doesn't go to waste."

"If You Can't Teach a Willing Student Like Louis Russ to Bang a Drum, Then You Are a Lousy Teacher"!

The story is about a composer who needed money and became a teacher, at first he has no passion or heart to teach, but soon, he changed and become someone who has changed many lives, but given up his dream of being a composer. There's a scene where he try to help a girl having problem with her clarinet, where he finally found she's not having fun and very stressed, hence the 1st quote above.


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post Apr 17 2008, 12:36 AM

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This is a MUST see....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntReE2n15bo

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post Apr 17 2008, 05:38 PM

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QUOTE(icypetals @ Apr 17 2008, 02:51 PM)
so touch...........almost cry. cry.gif
she really is what ppl define as a "prodigy".

a real life angel from heaven .

she was not scared even on stage or tv!

no offense but wondering, they didnt mention something, where did she first play the piano when her parents dont know music?
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She's adopted,... the foster parents cannot conceive...
She first played on the piano when her foster mother sing her favourite song. She was 3 then. Really true born talent... unbelievable...

More touching is the ending part, the song she sing, she dedicate to herself? "You were born to be loved"... so touching... I think she cried too when she sings, so unbelivable that a 5 year old kid can feel so much and think like an adult. Amazing!!!

The girl judge (is she a judge?), LoL, was so impressed like she wanted to adopt the kid...

There's another video, the 9th episode, she appear again, this time she plays and the judges (I think) all surrounds her and sings while she plays. One of the guy cannot stand crying, gosh... so amazing...

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post Apr 21 2008, 02:41 AM

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Just to share:

Play By Ear Graduation 2005:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgJIFk3AY30

This "Play By Ear" course or method are meant for contemporary/pop songs, for classical, one still has to go through the conventional piano classes.

Video Info:
The graduates are either Level 1 or Level 2 mostly (which both consist of 20 classes each, or maximum 1 year period for each).

The girl wearing specs playing the chinese instruments tune, during my class last year, I saw her at the centre, she's working as a part time music coach already.


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post Apr 28 2008, 01:46 PM

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Other good recommended video:
Mr. Holland's Opus

See how a composer struggles to teach his students music, how he become a good dedicated teacher in the end.
Also, how he solves students having problem learning music / playing instruments.

Another China movie about a boy who can play Violin:
"Together"
I watch this once on Astro with English Voice Sub.
The boy plays by his heart and feelings, while another girl who can play very well but just doesn't have it.

I can't find these 2 video at our local stores.

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post May 6 2008, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(Haneda @ May 6 2008, 04:45 PM)
The reason i stopped my ABRSM studies was because it was too formal. I don't like taking exams and forced to practice songs that I do not like. I only like playing songs that i can relate to, like songs from my favorite anime, drama, games, pop songs... since Play By Ear classes seems to be more casual, not sure if it'll be more suitable for me.
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Haneda,

Play By Ear is for comtemporary/pop songs. It's no you learn very little, but it's more than enough for you to be able to play most contemporary songs, even up to the level you don't need. It's simply underrated by those who doesn't know about the course and what it do.

Basically Play by Ear teaches you MUSIC. It teach you how to listen to a song, most people would be able to capture the melody easily. You'll also learn how to feel the music and learn how to create chords from there. The music coach duty is to guide you through the process and help you out. This course is even beneficial for a conventional Grade 5 to even Grade 8 students who seems lost or learning blindly, which will take them sometime to fix the puzzles.

You can go for the demo or evaluation and decide for yourself.
Else, you can ask if they will have a preview anytime soon. There, you can understand more on the course.

FYI, with this course, you can still take up Exams if you want. They have recently ties up with London Music School, and you can get a certificate from there. All you need to do is just play 3 contemporary songs they provided, and 1 songs of your choice. No theory, no paper, just play.

Also, FYI, they're featured on the newspaper a few times.

Just for your insights:
Level 1 - 20 classes: You'll learn the basic chords and up to 9 (I think) playing styles, you'll also learn how to create your own styles, arrange a song yourself. You're also allowed to bring 1 song of your own.
Level 2 - 20 classes: More on left hand bassing ideas, very much on left hand and bassing. You'll learn those playing styles like Bossanova, Jazz, etc. You'll also learn how to play as an accompaniment.
Level3 - 40 classes: Previously there is only 20 classes, now they extend to 40. Not really sure on the details of this course as I haven't take it up yet. I was told its much more advance and will teach you about adding notes, and such to a song.

There're also other courses after this, such as, "Popular Keyboard Method", where they teaches you how to use your keyboard features andplay like a band.

Your 10 classes I think should be Level 1 first 10 classes. I took that same course first, but when I took it, it was RM650++ if I'm not wrong. After that you can upgrade to Level 1 with the remaining 10 classes.

Don't just take my word or anybody's word. Go SEE for yourself.
We're just giving you our opinions and advice.
As for me, I'm sharing my experiences as a student there as well.


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post May 7 2008, 11:05 AM

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Here's some newspaper article regarding Play By Ear:
http://www.playbyear.com.my/Press/PressArticle01.htm
http://www.playbyear.com.my/Press/PressArticle04.htm

Comments by some students in newspaper:
http://www.playbyear.com.my/Press/PressArticle05.htm

More information about Level 1 in newspaper:
http://www.playbyear.com.my/Press/PressArticle08.htm

History on the founder in newspaper:
http://www.playbyear.com.my/Press/PressArticle03.htm

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I've actually talk explain about Play by Ear a few times, you can read more here if you are interested.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/377680/+60
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/377680/+40

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Here's the so called "Synthesizer" course, it's called "Popular Keyboard Method" in Play By Ear, here a DEMO by the founder itself:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J57xnNWM1mg

Here's a short video about their ties with the London Music School for the exam:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwdloHu1WYo


Added on May 7, 2008, 11:07 amI'll repeat this nice "quotes" in case someone didn't read what I posted in the past:

"A teacher has two jobs; fill young minds with knowledge, yes, but more important, give those minds a compass so that that knowledge doesn't go to waste."

"Playing music is supposed to be fun. It's about heart, it's about feelings, moving people, and something beautiful, and it's not about notes on a page. I can teach you notes on a page, I can't teach you that other stuff. "

- from the movie Mr. Holland's Opus (1995/1996)


This post has been edited by Andy214: May 7 2008, 11:07 AM

 

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