that is how i workout too! I prefer instinctive than planned workout!

Hey darkie, got the video of wide-grip lat pull down?Thanks in advance...

THIS IS MADNESSSSSSSSSSSSSS

it gives really great results though the pump achieved is awesome but i dont know if that contributes to muscle growth. its how i always structure my arms day too. picked it up from some arnold schwarzenegger training journal.

I assume the 3 day split still counts for the same number of workouts per muscle group (discounting shoulder presses for 5 sets of lateral raises).

So Monday would be 4 chest workouts, 3 shoulder workouts and 3 arm workouts?

Having 3 days also means losing the superset arms?

This post has been edited by mofonyx: Dec 7 2008, 10:07 AM

@mofonyx

i think it would be something like this:
(just an example)

day 1 - chest, back
day 2 - shoulders, arms
day 3 - legs

but if you have a 3 day split your workout will generally be lower in volume as compared to a 4 day split, unless you have the endurance and strength to get through 20-30 sets and over an hour and a half of weights. arnold and the old school bodybuilders used to train this way, having one day rest after 3 days and then repeating the cycle. i personally have a 4 day split routine and i find that it suits me well.

there is no proper way to workout/split your workout. the only things that matter are proper form, rest between sets, mind muscle connection, diet, rest days etc.

i hope that helps

@kege, my question is in reference to this post.

oh sorry. didnt see that

thanks for the advise. i'll do it sitting from now on then =)

Not yet.

Yep! ^^;;

Yep.

Yep!

I'm on a tight schedule these few days. Skipping chest and back today. I might do legs tomorrow.

hello! argh, i was actually looking forward to having a peek at your chest and back workout...

btw, i'm doing back tomorrow and i'm planning to do wide-grip pulldowns, seated cable rows, and one arm dumbbell rows. the fourth exercise would have to be a vertical back workout, but from the list of your exercises, all the 4 recommended vertical exercises are basically just pulldowns, with slightly different positions.

may i know what's the difference between doing the pulldowns with a wide, close or hammer grip? and not forgetting behind-the-neck pulldowns as well... thank you!

oh and i found this on BB.com: is this any good?

Full Range-of-Motion Lat Pulldown

for arms day, 3 biceps and 3 triceps exercise, how many sets do you usually do per exercise? 4 sets seem quite a lot to me..

This post has been edited by wallpaper89: Dec 9 2008, 04:33 PM

Sigh... for goodness' sake, lol. Just go back a few pages. My past chest workout is there. Don't just read updated posts.

Bodybuilding seems to work in opposites. Close grip works upper lats, wide grip works lower lats and hammer grip does wonders for thickness. I don't like BTN pulldowns.

Does shit for mass. Useless. You can't use much weight.

3-4. Your call.

haha alright. leaned something new today. i'll go for close grip then, to balance out the wide grip thanks!

This is what my training partner accomplished after 2.5 months of HVT:-

Deadlifted 225lbss12 times

Deadlifted 345 lbs on his first 1RM attempt :-





HVT makes you strong too. =P

Is that SLDL?

Can't really see his lower back, is he curling?

He gets it up with his own unique style of deadlifting. No joint pain, no lower back pain, smooth ascent. So called strength trainees usually diss HVT saying it's not an effective strength program. I guarantee you he will hit close to 400lbs pretty quick. I get it up my way too:-




This post has been edited by darklight79: Dec 10 2008, 10:18 PM

i think your partner's form could've been better, but i'm not one to talk lol. i can only do 160lbs x 5 ahhaha, compared with his 225lbs T.T

what's SLDL btw?

darklight, what's the function of that waist strap thing you wear for your exercises? i've seen some people in my gym using it too.

Your way is what I'm accustomed to seeing as immaculate form.

I don't see how that translates to what your trainee has. You must understand that I respect your experience and strength, but I have concerns about his form.

I've been injured before because of poor form and I do not wish that on anyone ever.

It's a weightlifting belt around my waist. I didn't use it initially but when my poundages started climbing up in the squat and deadlift, I needed it for support. I don't want my waist to stick out so much.

Not really, that's the weird thing. One of the old strongman legends, I'm trying to google up his name; had that same unique deadlift form and he never had lower back or postural problems. And he was one of the first few in the world to deadlift close to 800-900 pounds. I tried to make my gym partner do it with so called "proper form" but he experienced pain. Some people are built differently in body structure. It seems to suit him, why not?

SLDL = stiff legged deadlift, more for hammies. I don't really recommend it. There are better bb'ing alternatives such as the leg curl.

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Added on December 10, 2008, 10:50 pmYou're right. But see above post. I already replied to wallpaper's similar concerns. Well, people like my gym buddy's body structure is built very differently. These people are on in a million. Lemme google up that strongman fella's name who lifted in that similar way. I'm still having trouble recalling his name. He was a farmer, there's a pic of him in black and white deadlifting. Maybe you can help me. I tried googling deadlift strongman legends, etc. Still can't find it.

This post has been edited by darklight79: Dec 10 2008, 10:50 PM

I think I know who you're talking about .. going out now will respond later.

Bingo! Bob Peoples!!