The JPJ has announced that it is giving car owners 3 months until the end of July 2008 to remove non-compliant xenon lamps and dark tinting that does not comply with JPJ specifications from their cars.

During the 3 months leading up to the deadline, vehicles caught in violation will be issued a PG1 notice (Notis Larangan Penggunaan), but there will be no compound associated with the notice. To get this notice retracted, the car owner needs to comply with the directive. JPJ director Salim Parlan urges the public to report the number plates of "offending cars" to 03-88866412.

Road Transport Department enforcement director Salim Parlan says the ban will only affect cars retrofitted with HID kits, not cars that come with the system from factory. This is a bit hard to enforce as there are some cars that have two variants, one with HID and one without, how do you enforce this? The Civic 1.8 has normal halogen bulbs while the Civic 2.0 has HID bulbs, the same with the Nissan Latio and our very own Waja R3 MME Edition.

I believe that Xenon headlamps should not be banned, but only certain colour temperatures that pose a hazard to car's own driver should be banned. Some of the higher bluish colour temps can cause fatigue, plus they aren't particularly useful in the rain. Plus, proper alignment of the HID bulb to ensure the shine does not get into the way of other road users should be done.

Some HID users opt for the cheaper HID kits which only have the low beam, so they usually align it somewhere in the middle of low beam and high beam to make up for the lack of a high beam. You should get a proper Bi-Xenon system with both low and high beam, and align them appropriately.

Best is to retrofit a HID kit with a projector lense system into your reflector headlamps because projectors have been designed in such a way that the beam is cut off on the sides, making sure it only shines the path in front of you and does not get into the eyes of the drivers coming from the opposite direction.


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most of the people use the cheap HID. damm hate those cheap HID.

good.. now i can call and complain those cars that pissed me off..

ya loh
they use cheap HID hjuz bcoz wanna gaya2 only
if want gaya2 shud go for the proper HID
they juz make other drivers suffer from their cheap light

using BMW oem with shield... working fine wth nice beam....

the main problem is my headlight is old...i cant adjust the height any more...

but true enof, catch they stupid fella with poory fited HID. especially those 8k, 10k bulb even if its ori cos you cant really see the road cleary with those

I bet HID 4300K colour is not affected right? Cause im going to invest on that.

riiiiiiight...

its still a hid...

ill be camping @ garage sales sniping for them cheap 2nd hand hids. jaja

got checking still wan HID a~~
hahaha~~


bcoz of all ppl using cheap hiddy~~ now kena checking dy~~ @@

Im not gona put them on my headlight
Gon b on my foglight.
Highly doubt tht will be considered posing hazard to other road users as it shines low.
Dont think it produces as much nuisance as bein installed on a headlamp as well (referrin to cheap,beamin high ciplak hids).

i've halogen in my headlamp, and i'll continue to remain my HID on my fog lamp
just switch on my halogen as usual to avoid all this hassle

good, can print this article out and i'll show to JPJ/police when they stop me

This post has been edited by andyjyneo: Mar 31 2008, 10:41 AM

aiyaaaa.... kena buat tinted baru la plak nampaknya

i'll hunt for cheap HIDs for my fog light too
im looking for those OEM 3000K HID, still yellow, but much brighter

dam....i wanted to tint my rear window black tim

woahh.. time to look for 4350k bulbs..

but useless leh, cannot fix already

if they check on the tinting , i am really gonna be screwed .lol

same ere as well.. i've only managed to source the rear passenger doors to change back to clear ones...

as for the rear windscreen.. i'm just not gonna bother.. also gonna get screwed..

how bout if da window is original tinted~~~
also kena a~~@@

that's exactly what sonic_cd and i were referring to.. ours are JDM spec cars.. which came with factory privacy glass

should b ntg gua~~
coz my fren change 2 JDM window then kena tahan JPJ~~
he say da window is original~~ then da jpj use pisau n sratch it~~

this is what i heard from those traffic police roadblock
they'll use key to scratch your window, then issue you summon on the spot too

however, this reminds me of an incident...
my family bought a 2nd hand 1st gen of CR-V so i sent the car to puspakom for transfer of ownership
the officer said the window is very dark, so he used key to scratch and tear the original vkool to half
holysh*t, i've no choice, but to tear all down
very disgraceful in front of many people

This post has been edited by andyjyneo: Mar 31 2008, 12:38 PM

sad to know that they are resorting to such tactics.. if they scratch my windscreen... i'd make them pay

if a small scratch and they say its cause its orginal i don`t mind ... but if kena the dreaded inspection letter .. duno what to do already .lol

if inspection.. then have to resort to changing the glass back to clear ones.. send it in to inspection.. then once clear.. go back out to the accessories shop.. install back original..
but the hassle.. and i think there could be a compound

ya, must change if want to go inspection... my frend do it

you won`t kena fine or anything , but the cost of changing the to the clear glass ain`t cheap .. heard can reach up to 2k+ rather pay duit kopi like that .lol .. bet this is gonna make alot on controversy in the newspaper again

i think muz change n kena compound le~~~
@@
i kena b4 for my scooter~~
tat time i was using metal style no plat~~then kena road block~~
they write letter 2me~~ask me 2 change if dun1 kena saman~~
after i change..i when jpj~~ need 2 pay money for inspection~~
@@

if v-cool tinted also not pass,why v-cool brochure said is approve by jpj?
and is expensive not cheap leh. just scratch by using key den ur $$ bye bye,no warranty

So, can't sue them for destroying people's stuff?

eh~~
i heard my fren say~~
if they tanggal ur tinted~~ u take picture n go warranty~~they will replace a new for~~ dunno real o not la

this ain`t america ... heck maybe we should all go mass complain to the oppopsition party .lol

Hmm... if HID is properly tuned and fitted with the right head lamp, why not? As long as it doesn't hurt the eyes, I will always support it.

muahhaha.. yes.. it'll be fueling the newspapers that JPJ are taking bribes if it does get out.. hahahha

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Added on March 31, 2008, 12:54 pmyea.. our constitution does not allow that.. we're at their mercy... so can only just vent anger...

This post has been edited by ston3r: Mar 31 2008, 12:54 PM

only last week i encountered this douchebag with HID lamps adjusted so high, they were blinding me in an Avanza. so u imagine la how high were his lamps.

and u know what car the fool was driving? a Hyundai Accent RX-S. knnccb betul

This post has been edited by Naota-kun: Mar 31 2008, 12:56 PM

usually it would be the opposite way around .. the accnt mus be tembak bulan i think .lol

hahahaha.. tembak bulan

no.. tembak sign board.. ahhahaha

mayb da owner cannot drive at nite time~~so need a HID 2 shot far far~~

Haiz.. Malaysia is government rules..
Maybe that's the way they earn money to feed their staff with coffee's powder..
Seen many dato dato tint their car 100% black also no problem..
If i am police.. I go scratch all 4 windows see they angry or not.. Then next day can say bye bye to my job already..

In malaysia.. Government no brain.. People say HID can blind people.. Then they wan be the nice guy.. Ban HID..
HID blind people becoz those are cheap and installed by unprofessional people.. If they do research properly.. Any light also can blind when shoot directly to ur face..
HID can save life.. Many old car's headlight is not very bright.. Not like those round shape light which is bright.. Example kelisa, atoz, kenari, myvi, etc..
More over malaysia's road many potholes, no road lamp, etc... Thanks to JKR ( Jangan Kerja Rajin )..

Proton seriously overpriced with its quality.. One bang at 80km/h on other car.. Sure KO.. People die in accident becoz Proton kills... Somemore government support it .. Raise Overseas car at least 300% tax duty..

Conclusion :-
Malaysia : Nice country & peace
Government : Sux to the max, stupid, brainless, etc..

haha...amedion...u r rite....if v use projector with HID,aso kena banned...haih....

like that proton waja also banned (there`s a version with hid right ? ) . LOL

haha~~~

btw~~ how bout government car will fully 100% balck tinted~~
y they can put~~

next time get a picture of the gahmen cars and send to the blogs and newsparties of the double standards they practice . lol .

No need .. Just open sunday the star .. main page..

A Huge crowd of 25,000 welcoming Agong ... I'm sure the 25,000 witnesses cannot see through his window..

Where is JPJ ?

what to do... double standard in malaysia
so that's why stop voting BN
stupid cheapskate b*stards keep voting BN

and this stupid new transport minister doing sh*t
he should get a life before being kick out on next GE

Gohmen will say that they need those tints to protect their "privacy". Who knows what they are doing inside

But true also. They don't want to be head shot from a ridding motorcyclist point blank.

aiyoh... for high minister and royal`s they need it for security lah..

but I hope JPJ also saman more expensive car like BMW, Audi, Merc with dark tint.. not just cheap car like mine..

p/s : dont care.. my tint got 5 year warranty...

they juz care bout minister n hi officer safety meh?

we all also in danger meh, the need for dark tint is for our safety, our car acc safety, blablabla safety

What makes them think their lives are more important than ours?

what are the chance that u have someone trying to kill u everyday?

dark tint does not assure safety for ur acc only dark safety tint will...expensive wor..

go and find a skin/eye specialist
ask the doctor to write a letter stating that you've eye/skin disease
then go to JPJ to seek approval

HID if install properly i can accept
very nice to see~
but then the cheap one only hurt my eyes
silau

dun understand la why they have to ban tinted windows?
wuts wrong with it?
tinted looks nice
for security
didn't hurt anybody oso

well, at least its dark, so a bit safety than none rite

wei dun play2, crime rate in malaysia is very hi wor, u go jalan2 also got ppl wanna kill u
especially if u r smart, handsome, successful blablabla

this one not very sure can lor
later jpj tell me 'tint front only lor, y must each windows '

no need worry la..hehe

just gif a bit coffee money..haha..dey wear "i anti rasuah tag" oso dey accept wan..hehe

by announcing the ban..they are publicly announcing for civilians to get their wallets ready.. mauahahahah

actually as i read on paultan's website.. JPJ doesn't even have a proper guideline on the HID crackdown.. whether it is the temperature color or bad angles.. they should come up with one before starting the crackdown.. sigh.. these ppl

sorry evryone.. noob here.. does loonz85 means JPJ will ban any kind of HID soon as long the car is not come with HID originally? even optimize color temp?

if not mistaken 4300k color temp is a optimize color temp and it is comfortable to our eyes rite? correct me if i wrong

well, my dad went for eye cataract operation few years ago
he can tint his car, but he doesn't want
i told him to find the doctor to write a letter, then give it to me
i want to tint my car

for them, they just ban everything, no matter what
it's easier for them that way

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Added on March 31, 2008, 2:45 pmhttp://paultan.org/archives/2008/03/30/jpj-to-crack-down-on-hid-and-tinting-by-july-2008/
i would say wait till end of july, while a lot of users are complaining about this enforcement now

This post has been edited by andyjyneo: Mar 31 2008, 02:45 PM

Their life is more important becoz wif their rank.. They can get more coffee's powder to feed them..

Rakyat ( We all ) pay tax goes to Government
Government feed those 100% tinted scare headshot dato
Dato feed those officers

this transport minister is formerly educational minister..... stupid right.. ask an education minister take over transport minister post.... RIDICULOUS...

not only stupid, but brainless
bodoh sial
anyway, the minister from what background, we don't care
but implement this kind of ridiculous things within 1 month after GE is stupid

Saw 1 f**kin Vios last few days ago. Using HID white color. I think the fellow is going to hunt for Bats la.
I was on the opposite direction and the light was really blinding driver's vision.

These r those irresponsible drivers which caused HID to be banned. I think if HID is properly installed like those in luxury cars, its ok wa.

that's the thing why JPJ imposes serious ban on HIDs
because of this kind of ahbeng people

actually my dad's CR-V installed HID that blind users also because he didn't change his headlamp
but one thing good is he keeps his car in the house at night and drive in the morning only
i'm going to fix his HID soon
seriously have to take out

tinted ur crv lamp? cannot?

no, didn't try yet
i suggested 3 options for my dad: one is change to projector lamp, two is change back to halogen, three is leave your car at home
but i guess mostly is choice number 2 now

crv bliding ar ?i think its ok gua cause m old rav4 also i had the hid installed ...

This post has been edited by sonic_cd: Mar 31 2008, 03:06 PM

but my dad's CR-V is terrible woh
even how many trees and leafs also can count
i seriously need to do something about it soon

i`m guessing its the angle and it has those clear headlamp covers .. just a guess though .

have adjusted the angle, but still the same
you know, CR-V's reflector is big, so it can reflect a lot of light out
i tried to suggest of fixing projector headlamp, but time is constraint now
guess the easiest and safest way now is fixing halogen back

how bout add eyelid~~
XP
make da headlight smaller

eyelid is ugly... it only makes my lamp smaller and double work
it only spoils my original lamp

wont spoil le~~~juz da gam only a~~
can wash

i don't like eyelid at all
i still prefer projector than eyelid
eyelid makes my lamp smaller... looks funny

da eyelid depends how u do lo~~
kakaka~~
crv got projector light~?
boleh guna meh

eyelid + projector lar... look nice what

don't want
still the original look of headlamp is cool

ermmzz..
1st blames idiot drivers, then blames jpj, then jpj's stupid regulations, then blames jpj top post holder's background, then blames ah beng, then blames car default fault.
whats next?

actually, we should blame JPJ's rules & regulations first
not those idiotic drivers first

lol
im not flamin and no offence intended but the way u posted, ure jumpin @ everyone. jajaja

i'm jumping at everyone?
err

Blames rules

Blames the person in charge

Blames ah beng pulak
and car default fault

oh, you're talking about this
i don't know who i should blame
but everyone should share the equal blame, i guess

blame JPJ for not standardising the rule
blame ah beng for simply hantam

why did i get catch when i on HID in johor?
and why didn't i get catch when i on HID in kl?
who should i blame? myself for pretending to be clever?

dude~~u get catch on HID coz of luck~~

sumtimes in our heart will say~~ y i kena but tat fella tak kena 1~~

Lol, k mang, im jst pointin out my perspective as i read thru.
sorry if u felt offended yah dude. cheers.

for me is opposite, I always say why tat fella kena I tak kena...kena what? kena lottery la

mayb u hav luck~~
hahaha

in johor, JPJ and traffic police is extremely strict
there's an article in newspaper some days ago saying that a guy get caught in batu pahat, but why didn't get catch in JB
but it's true... i never get caught in KL before
i even consulted my police friend in KL and they say they'll not catch
that was few months ago

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Added on March 31, 2008, 4:06 pmno, i'm not offended, but stating the truth
we should blame all parties actually, but most importantly is JPJ

This post has been edited by andyjyneo: Mar 31 2008, 04:06 PM

mayb diferent state diferent style

lol
i think after the ban takes place, they gona ask for the car registration number and terus go their house n saman.

jb not so strict, u can c a lot of mods theyve done tht still pass jpj

they'll issue you a summon, and go for JPJ inspection
this is what JPJ told me when i go for HID inspection volunteerly

that's why i said... there's no standardisation in JPJ rule
that's very sad and bad

In Penang about 2 weeks ago, I saw a heavily tinted Perdana got stopped by traffic the other day. I was kinda happy 'cos the idiot was driving slowly in the middle of 2 lanes for sometime...