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 JPJ to crack down on HID and tinting by July 2008, Alert Alert

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post Jun 10 2008, 03:07 PM

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The police are either an ignorant bunch or they just wanna fish on ignorant and extremely hermit citizens. The way I look at it, since it came factory fitted and since the law said it was fine with factory fitted HIDs, let it be. Tell them they can take you to court if they are not happy with you. What a bunch of idiots.

I myself am not happy with JPJ for having such a stupid law. I have been trying to make misinformed people understand why I am so against it, so much so that I am so tired of it now.

I know some will disagree with me but all i can tell you is that, contrary to popular belief that HIDs are blinding no matter what, because they are brighter, I can tell you that halogens are much more blinding that HIDs that are properly aligned.

I don't see what the point is if the "enforcement" officers themselves cannot differentiate legal and non legal HIDs. It defeats the rules they created. On the other hand, if they completely ban HIDs on the road, I say they should completely ban halogens too and go back to the old headlights which were less brighter.

Remember when halogens were first introduced, it received the same kind of response from road users (ie. too bright, etc.) because they were not used to it. I am not saying that people should accept all HIDs, but be objective. Accept the fact that HID is a good technology and that properly installed HIDs don't blind. By "properly" I mean one with good bulbs and alignment, giving proper illumination and also does not blind others.

On the other hand, do not accept those cheap China made HIDs where the bulbs are not calibrated to conforming standards and hence, causing glare. All I am asking is for people, and that includes the enforcement officers, to be objective and not just ban HIDs because they think what they wanna think. Philips and Osram will not invest millions, or even billions, creating and working on a technology which is accepted worldwide (except for malaysia), if it wasn't safe for use, as claimed by our enforcement officers as well as misinformed citizens. Just my 2 cents worth. Cheers! smile.gif
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post Jun 10 2008, 04:46 PM

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JPJ love money..dat v all can prove wen ur car is different fm others car..
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post Jun 10 2008, 05:01 PM

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when to kuantan honda....but sadly they dun want to take responsible due to the reason i bought the car fr a termeloh salesman...so have to contact termeloh honda office to obtain a copy of the jpj/puspakom(wat ever) letter of approval...so nvm will ask the saleman to post me a copy..

i tot honda company is more prof in handling such case....but i was wrong...just bcos i didnt buy the car fr ur sale office doesnt mean u can just denia responsible... WTF for honda malaysia ppl (esp to the kuantan honda manager...yes the manager told me this...)



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post Jun 10 2008, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(lthock @ Jun 10 2008, 05:01 PM)
when to kuantan honda....but sadly they dun want to take responsible due to the reason i bought the car fr a termeloh salesman...so have to contact termeloh honda office to obtain a copy of the jpj/puspakom(wat ever) letter of approval...so nvm will ask the saleman to post me a copy..

i tot honda company is more prof in handling such case....but i was wrong...just bcos i didnt buy the car fr ur sale office doesnt mean u can just denia responsible... WTF for honda malaysia ppl (esp to the kuantan honda manager...yes the manager told me this...)
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I'm sorry to hear that, my friend but you really have to trouble yourself to see your sales representative. Or if you believe you're right, then fight in court but it'll cause more hassle and trouble. Do they issue a letter of approval for HID users upon buying, just like V-Kool? They should do it actually. This is to differentiate between legal factory-fitted and illegal aftermarket. But what to do since JPJ and police is not co-operating?
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post Jun 10 2008, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(andyjyneo @ Jun 10 2008, 05:42 PM)
I'm sorry to hear that, my friend but you really have to trouble yourself to see your sales representative. Or if you believe you're right, then fight in court but it'll cause more hassle and trouble. Do they issue a letter of approval for HID users upon buying, just like V-Kool? They should do it actually. This is to differentiate between legal factory-fitted and illegal aftermarket. But what to do since JPJ and police is not co-operating?
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andyjyneo,

I think the problem here is because the rules have always been very grey since the beginning. Honda, Toyota, BMW, etc. have been using OEM fitted HIDs for quite sometime now and all these cars have been marketed without any need for letter of approvals. Hence, getting a letter of approval now is kind of a hassle since these companies have to certify that your HID is OEM quality. (that is if they really do their job before giving you the approval letter hahaha...)
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QUOTE(astalavista_baby @ Jun 10 2008, 08:47 PM)
andyjyneo,

I think the problem here is because the rules have always been very grey since the beginning. Honda, Toyota, BMW, etc. have been using OEM fitted HIDs for quite sometime now and all these cars have been marketed without any need for letter of approvals. Hence, getting a letter of approval now is kind of a hassle since these companies have to certify that your HID is OEM quality. (that is if they really do their job before giving you the approval letter hahaha...)
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I guess so. Mine is aftermarket, but fitted with projector lamp. Yet, JPJ doesn't want to approve, and traffic police issued a summon for me. sad.gif
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post Jun 10 2008, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(andyjyneo @ Jun 10 2008, 08:57 PM)
I guess so. Mine is aftermarket, but fitted with projector lamp. Yet, JPJ doesn't want to approve, and traffic police issued a summon for me. sad.gif
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you got one recently ? sweat.gif if urs projector can get , my car will and is a prime target . during daylight can clearly see it is hid bulbs ... lol sweat.gif
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post Jun 10 2008, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(andyjyneo @ Jun 10 2008, 08:57 PM)
I guess so. Mine is aftermarket, but fitted with projector lamp. Yet, JPJ doesn't want to approve, and traffic police issued a summon for me. sad.gif
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I guess that is the downside of our country. The government is not implementing sensible laws to curb the bad and retain the good things. Instead, they choose to curb everything, be it good or bad, so long as they can stop the bad things. I would love to have projectors but guess I would have to leave it as it is. Sigh.
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QUOTE(sonic_cd @ Jun 10 2008, 09:07 PM)
you got one recently ? sweat.gif if urs projector can get , my car will and is a prime target . during daylight can clearly see it is hid bulbs ... lol sweat.gif
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Not recently. That was last year. Haha, I know yours always shoot the air. If I ever see a Wald Wish with bright HID, I'll horn you, alright? LOL


Added on June 10, 2008, 9:37 pm
QUOTE(astalavista_baby @ Jun 10 2008, 09:35 PM)
I guess that is the downside of our country. The government is not implementing sensible laws to curb the bad and retain the good things. Instead, they choose to curb everything, be it good or bad, so long as they can stop the bad things. I would love to have projectors but guess I would have to leave it as it is. Sigh.
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Before they start catching HID, I thought projector with HID is perfect combination. I tried to be a responsible road user, but too bad, JPJ and police don't want to give me a chance to. sad.gif

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post Jun 14 2008, 01:48 AM

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QUOTE(andyjyneo @ Jun 10 2008, 09:36 PM)
Not recently. That was last year. Haha, I know yours always shoot the air. If I ever see a Wald Wish with bright HID, I'll horn you, alright? LOL


Added on June 10, 2008, 9:37 pm
Before they start catching HID, I thought projector with HID is perfect combination. I tried to be a responsible road user, but too bad, JPJ and police don't want to give me a chance to. sad.gif
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mine does not shoot air lah ... mayve the first night when i installed it without adjusting the angle ..... sweat.gif


this video i spotted while browsing the wishclub forums. its abit old though , but topic relevant . posted by the member named 'y2'
according to the member listening to the video @ 1:44:00 till 2:03:00 has some facts about the whole oem tint/hid thingy .
http://www.wishclubmalaysia.com/index.php?...der=asc&start=0 < orginal thread . (edit: errr.. need login punya sorry ar.. sweat.gif )

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post Jun 14 2008, 01:49 AM

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Celaka betul. Have to login. No username leh.
BTW, now polis in KL still got kata jangan?

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post Jun 14 2008, 08:10 AM

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Somebody email that official to inform him, IN A POLITE MANNER, how HIDs are alright if they are properly adjusted.
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post Jun 14 2008, 08:37 AM

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Yeah,last Monday night around 2am when i finish my work and getting off from my office at PJ.I driving back using Federal Highway to Cheras and when I reach to opposite Kuen Cheng school that was a massive JPJ roadblock.Lot of modded car was stoped aside for checking.Then i keep on drive and saw another police traffic roadblock on opposite means b4 the JPJ roadblock.Then nvm la coz it was opposite my way,haha.But when i reach to Taman Shamelin there is a Police roadblock with lot of CID somemore.....LoL.....i dunno what is happening on that night till i saw 3 different roadblock......
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Seen Polis X-trail with HID. Soon when they get their Waja CPS Polis patrol cars will have HIDs. Wonder what will they say then...
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QUOTE(WhoopeeDoo @ Jun 14 2008, 10:25 AM)
Seen Polis X-trail with HID. Soon when they get their Waja CPS Polis patrol cars will have HIDs. Wonder what will they say then...
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They'll keep quiet to pretend like nothing happened instead of announcement.
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post Jun 14 2008, 10:33 AM

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All hid's or certain brightness ?
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post Jun 14 2008, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(astalavista_baby @ Jun 10 2008, 03:07 PM)
The police are either an ignorant bunch or they just wanna fish on ignorant and extremely hermit citizens. The way I look at it, since it came factory fitted and since the law said it was fine with factory fitted HIDs, let it be. Tell them they can take you to court if they are not happy with you. What a bunch of idiots.

I myself am not happy with JPJ for having such a stupid law. I have been trying to make misinformed people understand why I am so against it, so much so that I am so tired of it now.

I know some will disagree with me but all i can tell you is that, contrary to popular belief that HIDs are blinding no matter what, because they are brighter, I can tell you that halogens are much more blinding that HIDs that are properly aligned.

I don't see what the point is if the "enforcement" officers themselves cannot differentiate legal and non legal HIDs. It defeats the rules they created. On the other hand, if they completely ban HIDs on the road, I say they should completely ban halogens too and go back to the old headlights which were less brighter.

Remember when halogens were first introduced, it received the same kind of response from road users (ie. too bright, etc.) because they were not used to it. I am not saying that people should accept all HIDs, but be objective. Accept the fact that HID is a good technology and that properly installed HIDs don't blind. By "properly" I mean one with good bulbs and alignment, giving proper illumination and also does not blind others.

On the other hand, do not accept those cheap China made HIDs where the bulbs are not calibrated to conforming standards and hence, causing glare. All I am asking is for people, and that includes the enforcement officers, to be objective and not just ban HIDs because they think what they wanna think. Philips and Osram will not invest millions, or even billions, creating and working on a technology which is accepted worldwide (except for malaysia), if it wasn't safe for use, as claimed by our enforcement officers as well as misinformed citizens. Just my 2 cents worth. Cheers! smile.gif
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u might say that properly align HID will not be blinding but some HID are so bright and when its on uneven road that it will blind people not only from opposite road sometimes when i look at the rear mirror too... i personally had encounter a few times and manage to avoid a few accident thx these ppl...

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post Jun 14 2008, 11:24 AM

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i still havent kena yet thankfully.
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QUOTE(reuben_1991 @ Jun 14 2008, 10:33 AM)
All hid's or certain brightness ?
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All HIDs, sadly except factory fitted.

QUOTE(sharkteef @ Jun 14 2008, 11:24 AM)
i still havent kena yet thankfully.
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Bro, you still haven't go meh? Hmm, I want to give it a test next week.
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oh...where can test oh?

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