Hi, i am a new user of ebay.com.my and confirm it is a con case already. This is my first transaction adi kena con.

The scenario is where i have paid for the item after the auction and seller promise that buyer will receive it within 2-4 days. I didn't receive my item until today 27 March 2008. The item has been paid on 21 March 2008 9:04:20 AM. I emailed and smses the buyer few times today and still didn't get any reply, this same goes with other buyer. I have his name,ic,contact num but how can i verify if it is legitimate. Which sites or party where i check more info on it? what action should i take further?

Additional information
1)Can only contact ebay 10 days after transaction
2)no tracking id was given to me even though it is stated in his term of sales



SELLER'S INFORMATION

HIS EBAY ID : dvcenergy
http://myworld.ebay.com.my/dvcenergy

CARDHOLDER NAME

AHMAD SHAZRIN BIN ZAINAL ABIDIN

Card numbers: 5267 4877 0019 8555 (AMBANK CREDIT CARD ACC)

IC NUMBER : 770709-10-5397

ADDRESS : 16 JLN SERI SARAWAK 3 KAW 2 TMN SRI ANDALAS 41200 KLANG SELANGOR

In 2003 he worked with MAXIS MOBILE SDN.BHD. ARAS 18,MENARA MAXIS,*KUALA LUMPUR CITY CENTRE,*50088 KUALA LUMPUR.

He drove a kancil BFP4571 (1999) (in 2005)

No Telifon 0132198151 milik
Khairul Ilias
25, Jln Putra Permai
10/23 Putra Height
Subang
(dari sumber kakitangan Celcom)

Feedback left by his buyer TODAY 27 MARCH 2008.





Victims List/Money Involved
1)Harvard/RM 130.00
2)dencs/nearly RM 1000.00
3)xnos/RM 160.00
4)fikrie/RM450.00
5)BraDeRz/RM 220.00
6)sinisterair/RM 270.00
7)karuna_bdc/RM 370.00
8)K-o-E/RM 380.00
9)ven89/RM 380.00
10)cguyver/RM 1070.00
11)yana (via sms)/RM 710.00
12)jeed_nathan/RM 230.00
13)jase6555/RM 342.00
14)seigologies/RM 170.00
15)hadrah/RM 230.00
16)Jed157/RM 370.00
17)Daviddr3/RM 580.00
18)grandcell70/RM 170.00
19)yee_voon/RM 250.00
20)reburnz/RM 300.00

TOTAL AMOUNT UP TO DATE : RM 7782.00


If the name AHMAD SHAZRIN BIN ZAINAL ABIDIN match any conman information in lowyat or lelong, pls do pm me.


TO: DVCENERGY/AHMAD SHAZRIN

"IF UR LOOKING AT THIS THREAD RIGHT NOW, I PROMISE THAT I WILL HUNT U DOWN. MARK MY WORD. U WILL RECEIVE THE CONSEQUENCES OF UR ACTION FOR TAKING MY HARD EARNED MONEY. KARMA. UR MESSING WITH THE WRONG GUY"



AMOUNT OFFERED FOR INFORMATION LEADING TO THE CATCH OF THIS CONMAN AND ONLY IF THE REFUND IS GIVEN TO THE BUYERS/VICTIMS. THE AMOUNT WILL BE SHARED EQUALLY IF THERE IS MORE THAN 1 INFORMER.

Victims List/Current Offering
1)Harvard/RM 30.00
2)dencs/nearly RM
3)xnos/RM
4)fikrie/RM
5)BraDeRz/RM
6)sinisterair/RM
7)karuna_bdc/RM
8)K-o-E/RM
9)ven89/RM
10)cguyver/RM
11)yana (via sms)/RM
12)jeed_nathan/RM
13)jase6555/RM
14)seigologies/RM
15)hadrah/RM
16)Jed157/RM
17)Daviddr3/RM
18)grandcell70/RM
19)yee_voon/RM
20)reburnz/RM

TOTAL OFFERING: RM 30.00

This post has been edited by Harvard: Apr 8 2008, 03:27 PM

contact ebay and then report police

i can assure there is more than 10 ppl kena in this con....i m trying to gather the buyers to come over here now

if got that kind of feedback why u trade w him in the 1st place le?

have to wait for 10 days

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Added on March 27, 2008, 10:59 pmall above is the feedback he receive TODAY. before this, he got all 100% positive feedback

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Added on March 27, 2008, 11:17 pmhow to verify his IC real or not?

This post has been edited by Harvard: Mar 27 2008, 11:17 PM

a lesson to be gain. It could be a hack account or set your limit to COD.

he kena by COD
then how?

i m not that naive ok...


if i go to AMBANK. will they release his information to me? coz, the acc num is the only information i got which is confirm real.

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Added on March 27, 2008, 11:31 pmmy first transaction and the last transaction in ebay.

This post has been edited by Harvard: Mar 27 2008, 11:31 PM

so wat can we do? i also a victim..

specify ur item and amount involved.....thx

i never think tat...he get 100% positif...so hard to trade in net already...

don't give up so fast. now, we have to gather all the buyers and victim 1st and then only decide what to do/ high probability we make police report together

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Added on March 27, 2008, 11:36 pmsame here....obviously we are wrong. i waited the entire day at home today for poslaju to come. how much money is ur's involved?

This post has been edited by Harvard: Mar 27 2008, 11:44 PM

1 had buy 10 unit fr him..near rm1000.00 so , i get more pain fr u guys...

erm....u sure? how do u deal with him? what item cost RM 100.00 for 1? can u tell in more details. thx

wow rm1000.

bro i think better gather and together go and lodge a report

dencs....if u haven't leave a feedback. post this link to direct buyers to this thread. that would be much effective

actually i got bid his item...but he already set for 1 ID just can bid for 1 item...n he still say many joybidder here so he set like tat...so after i win my bid he ask for payment ..i will pay him ..seen i see he got good feedback ..so i ask for he others item...some unit r old phone so price r cheap until i buy 10 unit for rm1000.00

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Added on March 27, 2008, 11:47 pmi will wait until tomolo..if still not receive the item.. i will leave the feedback n report to police..so harvard ..wat u going to do..?

This post has been edited by dencs: Mar 27 2008, 11:47 PM

I think you can contact ebay regarding the matter right?

ur from which area? which police station ur going 2?

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Added on March 27, 2008, 11:49 pmneed at least 10 days. that time this b*stard already fly to thai to enjoy himself

This post has been edited by Harvard: Mar 27 2008, 11:49 PM

if want report to ebay need 10 days after the transaction..i try already...

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Added on March 27, 2008, 11:50 pmi'm fr selangor ...u?

This post has been edited by dencs: Mar 27 2008, 11:50 PM

Weird, someone come report conman from ebay and someone then register new username at the same time and talk about that seller?

i found it very weird.

i really really hate tat..so xxxxxxx.......

i have done research even before i place this bid. trust me, ebay is very bad in solving prob for buyers. the most they will do is delete his acc and item he is selling. i was dragged by his good feedback and he say he is a teacher, price reasonable, and the quality of phone from pics seems good. i guess i was wrong this time

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Added on March 27, 2008, 11:53 pmi smsed dencs to come over here from ebay

This post has been edited by Harvard: Mar 27 2008, 11:53 PM

ic

The post you entered in was too short. You must have at least 10 character(s) in your post before it will get posted.

do u have any additional information to add? anything he mention during transaction? any piece of information would be vital at this time.

btw, trust me...it is time for u to leave the feedback at ebay to link other buyers here. this is a sure case already, as how heavy the case depends on the volume of ppl report to police

ya..me too..i also research n search b4 buy...but u can see that some body a put positif feedback say item receive n also second time trade with him..u can check it up.. 27 march 09 fr barisannasional ID

May i know the total amount that he cheated is how much?

that could be his second acc. i would expect a lot of sms coming by tomorrow. few days ago, he auction off a number of phones some like NOKIA 6500 classic is bidded for RM 690.00

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Added on March 28, 2008, 12:01 amnot yet counted.....the number is a lot bcos i constantly check item he was selling.

This post has been edited by Harvard: Mar 28 2008, 12:01 AM

but u can check his feedback, some feedback r just put in around this month march 08.. all r different ID n all the Id also got nice feedback one...tat y i confuse here...

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Added on March 28, 2008, 12:05 ami think more than rm4000.00 +++...damn.....wat a fxxk...

This post has been edited by dencs: Mar 28 2008, 12:05 AM

the fact now is that we are being fooled and i won't let this b*stard take my money so easily.

will police help us..can the police settle this case?

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Added on March 28, 2008, 12:09 amso u got any plan ..i also wont let him take my money so easily...

This post has been edited by dencs: Mar 28 2008, 12:09 AM

dencs, we need more buyers/victims to come over here right now. this is why ur feedback is crucial to direct them over here. if u have made purchase in ebay.com.my before this, u can pm them to come over here.

i did...ok..i will...isn;t am the first one contact u...?

all right......ur from KL area?

no..kuala langat...klang valley area... i will report to police..dunno they can help me take back tat money not...

even if i don't get back my money. i want to make sure that this conman have sleepless night, no good life, and suffer the consequences of his action. KARMA, what goes around comes around

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Added on March 28, 2008, 12:30 amil be back tomorrow. going to recharge now. any updates, u can pm or sms me . thx

This post has been edited by Harvard: Mar 28 2008, 12:30 AM

ya..right ..if u going to do..do it for me too..i give u power...hope he get down soon..

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Added on March 28, 2008, 12:34 ami already leave the feedback..hope the others buyer will come here....or contact u...

This post has been edited by dencs: Mar 28 2008, 12:34 AM

gud luck bros

i am a victim also...haiz...

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Added on March 28, 2008, 1:01 amwhat can we do now?

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Added on March 28, 2008, 1:03 ami am from KL..my hp number is 017-9368048..
if got any ways can solve this problem..pls contact me..or i will try to contact u all...thanks a lot..!!
haiz...no mood now already...daxx...!!

This post has been edited by xnos: Mar 28 2008, 01:03 AM

i also being conned... shit... harvard... how did u get his ic no??

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Added on March 28, 2008, 1:49 amwtf... how come he can change his id?? its the same seller.. but different name
http://feedback.ebay.com.my/ws/eBayISAPI.d...P:feedback:3:my

This post has been edited by lisut: Mar 28 2008, 01:49 AM

hi....now we need to gather more buyers, then we can go make police report. can u give more details and amount involved. thx

hi, it appears that he knew i was taking action against him. his new nick is my name and my add. pls state ur item and cost involved, thx. i have no idea if his IC num is real or not. need to verify it

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Added on March 28, 2008, 7:15 amdamm.....all feedback gone, we lost contact with other buyers already

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Added on March 28, 2008, 7:24 amstupid ebay system. how can he change his name and delete all feedback

This post has been edited by Harvard: Mar 28 2008, 07:24 AM

my item is Nokia N-gage .i paid rm 160 to him already.

trust me, at least 10 ppl fall into his trap....but now we lost contact with other buyers. The amount of item ranging from RM 40.00-RM 1000.00 per transaction. Estimated he cheated at least RM 3000.00

i sure trust to you...dont worry..!!i have read the feedback last two days...i started know that seller is a cheater.!!
izzit the police will take action in this type of case?

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Added on March 28, 2008, 8:49 ami feel that his ic number is false one...just his account number and name of that account are useful for us to report to ebay or police..

This post has been edited by xnos: Mar 28 2008, 08:49 AM

their ability or amount of action they are going to take depends on the total amount of complaint or report filed. Right now, we need at least a few more buyers/victims but lost contact with them. ebay won't allow user to post any info in the forum.

that is the problem...!!last nite one buyer has contacted me...later i try to inform her discuss at here.
now how many people involve in this case?

IC i also doubt it's real. I just only contacted ambank, but i know banks have certain policy where they won't reveal their customer information. We will see how it goes. going to hunt this ba*tard down

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Added on March 28, 2008, 8:55 ami have a number of sms yesterday after i posted the feedback. one of them is nokia N93 that cost RM 710. right now, i am sure that there is at least 10 ppl as i check what he is selling everyday.....few days ago, he got lot of phones on auction and the price is reasonable good

This post has been edited by Harvard: Mar 28 2008, 08:55 AM

Agree...!!if need any help juz contact me...but juz today i still have two test need taken..haiz..!!
wanna go to campus already...discuss with u all after skul.!!

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Added on March 28, 2008, 8:59 amany ways to contact other buyers? i try to find out the history in internet option of my pc. hope can find some more buyers to support us...

This post has been edited by xnos: Mar 28 2008, 08:59 AM

i got conned like u guys too..

shall we gather all the victims and together we get this guy..

making police report would be better when we got all the names..

he ic number can be find in hid payment method there...that bustard leave me a negatif feedback for me..am the victim n still get negatif from him ..my imej get down by him..shit...

ur item details and amount involved

yep, i saw that.....that guy is a pure b*stard, another thing is where EBay system sux. how can he delete and change name/feedback after scam ppl

to those got conned by him..
i believe you guys might still have the email he sent as a copy for the invoice.. we can use that as one of the proof..

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Added on March 28, 2008, 11:34 amitem - used N76
total payment - RM 450

This post has been edited by fikrie: Mar 28 2008, 11:34 AM

yep...printed all materials already, will go to police station soon. gathering more buyers/victims now

yup..u r right....we will print out all that information he email us...

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Added on March 28, 2008, 11:37 amwah.. i think tat until tis time i am the more money cheated by tis suxx guy.....

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Added on March 28, 2008, 11:39 amharvard...any new information pls let me know...u got my hp no right ? yesterday sms u one...

This post has been edited by dencs: Mar 28 2008, 11:39 AM

I got his phone no..
Luckily M'sia has introduced regis for prepaid..
Maybe we can track him down..
Not that hard to get info fr the telco..

yep....of course

toking bout phone number. telco have this prosedure where they won't reveal the customer information to external party. besides that, this phone num could be registered other ppl name, second hand num can be easily brought anywhere in lynn or elsewhere. he know that he is using this num to con ppl

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Added on March 28, 2008, 11:57 ambesides that, the information i got in this first page of this thread is already sufficient to report him. u can go look for him if u have a gang or groupies. pls rmb to send him a punch in the face from me

This post has been edited by Harvard: Mar 28 2008, 11:57 AM

Not to worry..
I'm working with the govt.. Got plenty connections..
I'll try to get get help fr Cybersecurity to get help fr ebay..
Got frens fr AMBANK and JPN..
I'll try to link the IC, his name and the Bank akaun..
Also have an insider fr MAXIS, dunno maybe he can try get help about the phone no though its a celcom no..

fikrie ...hope u get the way to help us....

i also his buyer...

NOKIA 6510 ---------> rm70
SAMSUNG D500-----> rm150

total-------------------> rm 220


Harvard, i have same passion with your to get this guy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

that's great....we will wait for ur good news also

thx.....ur nick has been updated to the list

What is his contact number? I want to call him and ask him what is going on.

013 2198151 tat fxxker number...

do u think that the conman b*stard is going to pick up the phone? right now he must have thrown his "con ppl simcard" away already

yesterday i really call him more 50 call but no answer...

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Added on March 28, 2008, 2:00 pmHarvard ...u report already ? or we wait other more ppl to c how? or wait fikrie got good news not?

This post has been edited by dencs: Mar 28 2008, 02:00 PM

i m waiting for more buyer to come here and we can plan to report all at the same day. then polis sure put this into priority case.meanwhile fikrie could get info to verify that all the information we have currently is genuine.

yesterday i got emel from simplesista1984(ebay) harvard do u know him...

most of the buyer is not in time put the feedback. to tell the truth, i don't know anyone from EBay before this as this is my first transaction.

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Added on March 28, 2008, 2:30 pmafter i ask dencs to post the link to direct the buyers to come here, the b*stard
shazrin adi delete and change everything to his acc.

This post has been edited by Harvard: Mar 28 2008, 02:30 PM

simplesista1984 emel me yesterday said he also waiting the phone bought from the shazrin...

em...
many good infoz here....

love the way he used all the words...
Im a teacher from bla3....


This post has been edited by smellysocks: Mar 28 2008, 02:44 PM

barisannasional (ebay) big possibility is his acc

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Added on March 28, 2008, 2:44 pmthe thumbnail above is the few last ppl that manage to put feedback. the rest of the buyers basically lost in contact.

This post has been edited by Harvard: Mar 28 2008, 02:44 PM

by the time i wanna sent my feedback... it was gone like that!
dunno wanna laugh or cry! hehehehe

ppl, backup information from the first page to ur com. confirm he is looking at this thread right now. he tried to hack into my lynn acc as i receive recovery email from lowyat.net

smellysocks ..wat item u buy ..wats the amount...?

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Added on March 28, 2008, 3:16 pmharvard ...the address it true?

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Added on March 28, 2008, 3:16 pmwhere u get it?

This post has been edited by dencs: Mar 28 2008, 03:16 PM

everyone report to police already?izzit print out all the info he send to us?thanks you guys...

not much.. around rm500

May you give more detail about your items and amount?

SHAZRIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

name: NOKIA 6630 3G BLUETOOTH GOOD CONDITION
Sale price: RM 270.00
Postage & Handling: Domestic standard mail RM 10.00
Seller:
dvcenergy contact:
http://contact.ebay.com.my/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...id=220215850903
Seller Information:
Shazrin ZainalAbidin
Melaka, Melaka 77400 Malaysia



abis duit kumpul 3 bulan....

anyone find him, tell me. i want his fingers.

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Added on March 28, 2008, 4:42 pmthis is my 2nd transaction..... i used lelong only before.



This post has been edited by sinisterair: Mar 28 2008, 04:42 PM

xnos ..we will wait ppl together..n collect the info ..before report to police...

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Added on March 28, 2008, 4:57 pmu want his finger ..ok..i want his little bird..i want let him cant happy n enjoy whole life...

This post has been edited by dencs: Mar 28 2008, 04:57 PM

I tried to make report at my local pondok polis station but they say this type of case not under their umbrella and just take my description only . so, they directed me to a Inspector in PDRM Petaling Jaya which is incharge or perdagangan komersil or something like that.He describe to me that the police station is near Hilton Hotel and MPPJ. Anyone know where is it? If any of u want to make report, u can pm me and i will give u the Inspector name and contact number.

i know the location...are u not familiar at pj ?

yep...not really familiar, if walk from taman jaya lrt...is it near?

if u use lrt, u can stop either at taman jaya or asiajaya..i think taman jaya is near the police station..can use taxi...

THAT idiot! !! i also got conned, RM 370 For a nokia 6288 , now he got a new user name if you go check his page, that was my hard earned cash he swiped! ! anything we can do>?? ??

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Added on March 28, 2008, 5:56 pmi want him to die!! does ebay refund? and my first time using ebay! idiot he is, so how?

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Added on March 28, 2008, 6:02 pmhow can he change his name??? does ebay have no security????

This post has been edited by karuna_bdc: Mar 28 2008, 06:02 PM

same like me. first time ebay adi kena con . ebay system suxx, i am never going to use it again.

so now how? wait for ebay to do something or track him down and commit murder?

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Added on March 28, 2008, 6:18 pmAyoh, not good first impression for first timers, go there and get conned, so we just swear at him silently and just loose our money?

This post has been edited by karuna_bdc: Mar 28 2008, 06:18 PM

baahh....i should have followed by initial "gut feeling"....if something is too good to be true...damnn -myr380 here.

ima see what i can pull thru next week. damnnn damnnn!!!

now the victim up to seven pppl already.....isnt his address u put is true?? harvard...

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Added on March 28, 2008, 7:04 pmK-o-E ...wat item u but...amount ??

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Added on March 28, 2008, 7:09 pmwe all will trade wit him cos we had saw his good feedback...all r out of our mind....i want my money back.....damn....

This post has been edited by dencs: Mar 28 2008, 07:09 PM

don't worry, we are making progress....more buyers/victims coming in. worst case scenario if don't get back money oso, don't think he will be able to renew his IC, start a bank account or even leave malaysia if all of us report this as a priority case.

we are human......sometimes we make wrong judgement

yep, u can try give him a visit if u want. i cannot say much, i get it from a reliable source. his 47+ positive feedback including as seller and buyer that's why quite misleading. besides that, my impression before this is a hardworking teacher in melaka trying to make some extra money at night...a little feeling of sympathy is being influenced. who knows it's all this B*stard fake makeup story.

Hi, im also the another victim. I pay for RM380.00 for my K800i. He did reply me said "OK no problem,the item have sent". But till now i have receive anything from him.He is CONMAN..my hard earn money my first time using ebay and buy stuff he con my money i wan him to die.PLs hunt him down. Ask him to pay back all our blood money..he is not ansewering his phone the number is 013-2198151. Im so piss. I paid on the 25th March till now 28th march still haven receive. SHIT MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PLS I WAN HIM TO DIE.....

[quote=ven89,Mar 28 2008, 07:40 PM]
Hi, im also the another victim. I pay for RM380.00 for my K800i. He did reply me said "OK no problem,the item have sent". But till now i have receive anything from him.He is CONMAN..my hard earn money my first time using ebay and buy stuff he con my money i wan him to die.PLs hunt him down. Ask him to pay back all our blood money..he is not ansewering his phone the number is 013-2198151. Im so piss. I paid on the 25th March till now 28th march still haven receive. SHIT MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PLS I WAN HIM TO DIE.....

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dun worry man...everything under progress...
we try to report to police, but i still have test tomorrow..so may be after the test just i will try go to police station and ask help from my frens and relative. i wanna find where the guy now...shit him!!

i got cheated too. i buy se k810i-rm510.00, se k800i-rm380.00 and a nokia ngage QD-rm180.00 total amount of rm1070.00. i will do a police report soon. i really hope we all get tat SOB. i have friend worked in the TUDM in KL one of them is the intelligence section. i really hope to trace down this SOB. if i have anything, i will let u all know.

but how the hell did he get all the positive ratings? ppl anyhow rate or he trick the system?

i hate him..he is a MOTF..F**king conman man...

well maybe he can create few accounts but still got a bit confuse by those id who give the good feedback.

all right.....thx

if i not mistaken 27+ positive rating is as a buyer. as a seller only 10+ only

the funniest thing is i call him like for more than 3hours non stop yesterday. then he sms me and told me tat he have send my phone. LOL but when i sms him back for the pos laju slip number, he never reply me. well his hp still active. i am now still calling him non stop. really wanna make him suffer.i hope we all get him, then i'll make sure i go to kl to visit him. i really wanna look at this guy.

KILL HIM , im a student! i dont have cash ! HE SUCKED my money

all he knows is ur HP had benn sent..no other things else to say...bullshit man him...i really wan to see this conman..DIE SHAZRIN

if happen that u guys found him please sms me h/p:017-8073839 i'll be in kl asap. die sharin, i hope he con his own mama. sh**t him.

agree!!!!i also wanna kill his family..!!!argh!!!!!!!!!!!

oops wrong h/p num, sorry for that my number is 017-8073938. my bad.

if he had guts he would pick up , can trace his #?

I being con before at ebay. Even with some seller that say going to meet for COD. Lost around RM250+ last time.

In this Shazrin case, I was lucky actually. I keep monitoring his activity at ebay for about 2 weeks. His feedback also look promising. I bid his item but bid only the lowest phone he sell on 24th Mac. At 12:32am I received an email with invoice. On the same day, he send another mail asking me to pay around 11:40am. That make me wonder. He said only doing business at night and he's a teacher so how he manage to send email around that time. I reply to him but he never reply me back.

I also can see he no longer relist his item after that. He also ended some listing before the actual end time. So I think better wait to see people feedback first.

For me it's a little weird to see a seller that can sell 2nd phone more 10 unit at the same times, more than 2 phone for same model. He a teacher, so I keep wondering where he got all the stocks.

i got email another buyer now..he will link to here soon....

im here. i win and payed for sony ercisson k750 rm230 including delivery. and dint receive the item. and i cant even leave a feedback in ebay. it says item had been canceled

This post has been edited by jeed_nathan: Mar 28 2008, 09:27 PM

jeed_nathan ...u can refer to the 1st page ..see tat..

how the hell did he get so many positive feedback

for those who have time now and have payment/transfer record. i need u guys to email customercare@ambg.com.my or use this form at http://www.ambg.com.my/general/contactus/contactus.asp (BOTH 24 HOURS)


FORMAT

[Your Name][Contact Number]

[Type in your report and statement on amount and when u have transfered or bank in to his acc]


DETAILS

Name : Ahmad Shazrin Bin Zainal Abidin

Card number: 5267 4877 0019 8555 (AMBANK CREDIT CARD ACC)

IC NUMBER : 770709-10-5397


[attach a picture proof of ur payment]

From the seller not from buyer.

One thing I notice is, he bought and sell everything in one months. He got all 48 feedback in March.

He ask to pay to credit card?

This post has been edited by nordingh: Mar 28 2008, 09:46 PM