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PcWork
post Dec 17 2009, 02:52 AM

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newer batch of grado. has different soldering temperature as older one.

old one can take up to 350C. but new one. pls set the temperature to less than 280C.
else u might burn the voice coil.
especially some that they originally solder badly. that the cable is soldered with big dump of lead. and the lead is directly heating up the voice coil when u attempt to change wire.

set ur temperature lower, and work faster when u heat them up. it shall be fine. make sure you know what u wanna do when u touch ur soldering gun on the lead. don't heat up only u consider what's next.



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post Dec 18 2009, 04:26 AM

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Problem being that I've now resumed college and I can't really afford the services of PcWorks. Any instructions if I want to DIY? Must get real intimate with my SR60s. tongue.gif
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post Dec 18 2009, 01:11 PM

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here is a site with grado mods compilation.. you can follow it.. it is not hard to mod a grado just be careful not to ruin your tranducers... the most hard part of the mod is to disassemble it..

grado mod guide

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Yuki Ijuin
post Dec 19 2009, 02:23 AM

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Instead of taking apart everything, can I just cut apart the affected area of the cable and tie them back together or something? I've did it for cheap speakers before, they're practically the same right? Then I'll just duct/electric tape to cover the opening or something until I get the cash for recabling.

I do have another option, that is to see if MBD can provide simple fixes to this or something. Without costing me too much, that is.

Edit: After reading through that page. I WANT THE ADDITIONAL JACKS ON THE HEADPHONES. <3<3<3 That would solve so many of my problems. XD

This post has been edited by Yuki Ijuin: Dec 19 2009, 02:27 AM
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post Dec 19 2009, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(Yuki Ijuin @ Dec 19 2009, 02:23 AM)
Instead of taking apart everything, can I just cut apart the affected area of the cable and tie them back together or something? I've did it for cheap speakers before, they're practically the same right? Then I'll just duct/electric tape to cover the opening or something until I get the cash for recabling.

I do have another option, that is to see if MBD can provide simple fixes to this or something. Without costing me too much, that is.

Edit: After reading through that page. I WANT THE ADDITIONAL JACKS ON THE HEADPHONES. <3<3<3 That would solve so many of my problems. XD
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well.. you can.. but that is if they only problem is that particular area.. i would recommend you soldering it rather than duct/electric tape though.. recabling is not expansive if you do it by yourself man.. you just need to be careful when you are doing it.. reason being that PcWorks charges at that price is, the whole process of disassembling a headphone is tedious..not hard..
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post Dec 19 2009, 09:06 PM

 
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I'm not sure about now but MBD used to sent Grados back to USA for repairs. The shipping and the time just doesn't make much sense.
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post Dec 22 2009, 12:53 AM

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The one year RMA period has ended for me. I still have the old Grados SR60s, not the sexier SR60is. XD

I'll see when I can trudge over to MBD and see if they can do a simple fix. If not, I'll just scrounge up enough for a PCworks recabling. Hopefully it can take the abuse I dish out on it after recabling.

I understand the pricing things, as it's also a niche job as well. I've taken apart quite a few speakers for parts and salvaging when I really needed audio back then, so I understand it's quite tedious, but Grados is a pair of 300RM cans, it kind of intimidates me so that I don't feel like doing it actually. that's why I'm considering either to see whether MBD has simple fixes, or save up money for PCwork. tongue.gif

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post Dec 22 2009, 01:09 AM

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QUOTE(Yuki Ijuin @ Dec 22 2009, 12:53 AM)
The one year RMA period has ended for me. I still have the old Grados SR60s, not the sexier SR60is. XD

I'll see when I can trudge over to MBD and see if they can do a simple fix. If not, I'll just scrounge up enough for a PCworks recabling. Hopefully it can take the abuse I dish out on it after recabling.

I understand the pricing things, as it's also a niche job as well. I've taken apart quite a few speakers for parts and salvaging when I really needed audio back then, so I understand it's quite tedious, but Grados is a pair of 300RM cans, it kind of intimidates me so that I don't feel like doing it actually. that's why I'm considering either to see whether MBD has simple fixes, or save up money for PCwork. tongue.gif
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hehe.. i understand your concern.. but seriously.. you will be saving A LOT if you do it on your own.. myb because im a risk taker DIYer that i dont feel so worried when i decided to open up my grado just for the sake of experimenting.. btw, when you are at it.. do the grill mod as well.. you will be amazed on what small difference like that will make..
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post Dec 22 2009, 09:28 AM

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my hf-2 coming today!
or so i hope smile.gif
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post Dec 22 2009, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(bledig @ Dec 22 2009, 09:28 AM)
my hf-2 coming today!
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that headset looks very nice. aluminium and wood, wonder how it sounds.... anyway congrats to you

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gilbertarenas
post Dec 25 2009, 09:17 AM

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alessandro ms2i user reporting in, after all alessandro is still grado haha
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post Dec 25 2009, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(gilbertarenas @ Dec 25 2009, 09:17 AM)
alessandro ms2i user reporting in, after all alessandro is still grado haha
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hehe bro, i thought your ms2 was up for sale? smile.gif
there's an alessandro thread somewhere.....have to bump it up though tongue.gif
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post Dec 26 2009, 12:07 AM

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i got my extreme modd MS1...
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post Dec 26 2009, 01:26 AM

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QUOTE(huh? @ Dec 19 2009, 08:44 PM)
well.. you can.. but that is if they only problem is that particular area.. i would recommend you soldering it rather than duct/electric tape though.. recabling is not expansive if you do it by yourself man.. you just need to be careful when you are doing it.. reason being that PcWorks charges at that price is, the whole process of disassembling a headphone is tedious..not hard..
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for the price i charge. i did some other things other than just pure recable it.
to final tweaks the sound.
do your own headphone is one case.while do it for other ppl totally another case. doing it for your own, u can use naked wire, super ugly looking or melt some plastic part when you solder, no one is going to blame you as long as you can accept it by yourself. but when do other's ppl headphone. those things are not acceptable.

try imagine, doing recable with sleeve, and have to secure the sleeve nicely (some with double sleeve) so that it doesn't accidentally come out. solder point were solder tidily, without over heat it. silver contact point cleaner? WBT silver soldering lead that cost me RM 580 for merely a small roll???

stay in mind that if you had done it ugly. the headphone virtually has VERY VERY LOW resales value. even u can sell oso it will cost much lesser than original price you had bought it. or to say even LOWER than the usual second hand price for un-modded version.

you might said cosmetic is nothings, but seriously, get it done nicely is not easy at all rather just recable it. if customer sent their earphone for me to recable, i can just simply do it, super ugly looking, yet sounds perfectly all right, and charge relatively cheap price. but do you think the customer dare to bring it out? use at office? or even bring it to audiophile gathring?
however when i do recable for my customer. i have to consider that point oso.
paying RM 150 for my recable is too much? there's a numbers of MS1 recabled by me sold for over RM 500 while the new headphone itself just RM 280-350 previously.
try to request for recable service in headfi, with similar workmanship and parts that i provide and check if u can get it done RM 150 or not.



so pls do not simply comment on my work/ price if you don't have a clue what i am doing on those recabled headphone i had done.

by the way. Akabane@DrJackel is the new owner of my personal extreme modded MS1.
Akabane@DrJackel, how do u feel about it? it's been weeks since u got it.


This post has been edited by PcWork: Dec 26 2009, 01:41 AM
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post Dec 26 2009, 08:16 AM

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QUOTE(Akabane@DrJackel @ Dec 26 2009, 12:07 AM)
i got my extreme modd MS1...
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how's the ms1 now as compared to the stock cabling? any impressions? smile.gif

btw, bro pcwork, how do you receive ms1's for recabling? via pos? or i drive down to your place to pass to you?
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post Dec 26 2009, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(PcWork @ Dec 26 2009, 01:26 AM)
for the price i charge. i did some other things other than just pure recable it.
to final tweaks the sound.
do your own headphone is one case.while do it for other ppl totally another case. doing it for your own, u can use naked wire, super ugly looking or melt some plastic part when you solder, no one is going to blame you as long as you can accept it by yourself.  but when do other's ppl headphone. those things are not acceptable.

try imagine, doing recable with sleeve, and have to secure the sleeve nicely (some with double sleeve)  so that it doesn't accidentally come out. solder point were solder tidily, without over heat it. silver contact point cleaner? WBT silver soldering lead that cost me RM 580 for merely a small roll???

stay in mind that if you had done it ugly. the headphone virtually has VERY VERY LOW resales value. even u can sell oso it will cost much lesser than original price you had bought it.  or to say even LOWER than the usual second hand price for un-modded version.

you might said cosmetic is nothings, but seriously, get it done nicely is not easy at all rather just recable it. if customer sent their earphone for me to recable, i can just simply do it, super ugly looking, yet sounds perfectly all right, and charge relatively cheap price. but do you think the customer dare to bring it out? use at office? or even bring it to audiophile gathring?
however when i do recable for my customer. i have to consider that point oso.
paying RM 150 for my recable is too much?  there's a numbers of MS1 recabled by me sold for over RM 500 while the new headphone itself just RM 280-350 previously.
try to request for recable service in headfi, with similar workmanship and parts that i provide and check if u can get it done RM 150 or not.
so pls do not simply comment on my work/ price if you don't have a clue what i am doing on those recabled headphone i had done.

by the way. Akabane@DrJackel is the new owner of my personal extreme modded MS1.
Akabane@DrJackel, how do u feel about it? it's been weeks since u got it.
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Bro way to go man...my dad is use my MS1 all the time..even he can hear the different much more compare with my previous SR80 or that i bring Stock and recable MS1. Great...

QUOTE(duh2k @ Dec 26 2009, 08:16 AM)
how's the ms1 now as compared to the stock cabling? any impressions? smile.gif

btw, bro pcwork, how do you receive ms1's for recabling? via pos? or i drive down to your place to pass to you?
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PCWORK recable is awesome...even i can say this MS1 is no more longer can deal side by side with a normal stock one.. This MS1 is bring me some nice impression on the smooth bass, The Mid & High is well being seperately heard. If stock cable everything is srew up.. I had been a grado SR80 last time about before i end up to upgrade to Premium Headphone. This MS1 is really not MS1 that is simply recable and the sounding is much perfect compare with other recable MS1 that i heard. Till i'm satified with it. I just Auditioned this Cans less than 10 min to grab it. Is really a good deal with it. Talk about soundstage here this MS1 is totally different and the soundstage come out dunno where then..it just pop suddenly..wow is a great. and more neutral..


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post Dec 26 2009, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(PcWork @ Dec 26 2009, 01:26 AM)
for the price i charge. i did some other things other than just pure recable it.
to final tweaks the sound.
do your own headphone is one case.while do it for other ppl totally another case. doing it for your own, u can use naked wire, super ugly looking or melt some plastic part when you solder, no one is going to blame you as long as you can accept it by yourself.  but when do other's ppl headphone. those things are not acceptable.

try imagine, doing recable with sleeve, and have to secure the sleeve nicely (some with double sleeve)  so that it doesn't accidentally come out. solder point were solder tidily, without over heat it. silver contact point cleaner? WBT silver soldering lead that cost me RM 580 for merely a small roll???

stay in mind that if you had done it ugly. the headphone virtually has VERY VERY LOW resales value. even u can sell oso it will cost much lesser than original price you had bought it.  or to say even LOWER than the usual second hand price for un-modded version.

you might said cosmetic is nothings, but seriously, get it done nicely is not easy at all rather just recable it. if customer sent their earphone for me to recable, i can just simply do it, super ugly looking, yet sounds perfectly all right, and charge relatively cheap price. but do you think the customer dare to bring it out? use at office? or even bring it to audiophile gathring?
however when i do recable for my customer. i have to consider that point oso.
paying RM 150 for my recable is too much?  there's a numbers of MS1 recabled by me sold for over RM 500 while the new headphone itself just RM 280-350 previously.
try to request for recable service in headfi, with similar workmanship and parts that i provide and check if u can get it done RM 150 or not.
so pls do not simply comment on my work/ price if you don't have a clue what i am doing on those recabled headphone i had done.

by the way. Akabane@DrJackel is the new owner of my personal extreme modded MS1.
Akabane@DrJackel, how do u feel about it? it's been weeks since u got it.
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just to make things straight here.. sorry if you are offended with what i said..

i said what i said because i think you have a way better workmanship than what i do or if someone DIY recable by themselves..

me in no way or what ever way saying that im doing the same job at a cheaper price than yours.. heck no..
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post Dec 27 2009, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(PcWork @ Dec 26 2009, 02:26 AM)
for the price i charge. i did some other things other than just pure recable it.
to final tweaks the sound.
do your own headphone is one case.while do it for other ppl totally another case. doing it for your own, u can use naked wire, super ugly looking or melt some plastic part when you solder, no one is going to blame you as long as you can accept it by yourself.  but when do other's ppl headphone. those things are not acceptable.

try imagine, doing recable with sleeve, and have to secure the sleeve nicely (some with double sleeve)  so that it doesn't accidentally come out. solder point were solder tidily, without over heat it. silver contact point cleaner? WBT silver soldering lead that cost me RM 580 for merely a small roll???

stay in mind that if you had done it ugly. the headphone virtually has VERY VERY LOW resales value. even u can sell oso it will cost much lesser than original price you had bought it.  or to say even LOWER than the usual second hand price for un-modded version.

you might said cosmetic is nothings, but seriously, get it done nicely is not easy at all rather just recable it. if customer sent their earphone for me to recable, i can just simply do it, super ugly looking, yet sounds perfectly all right, and charge relatively cheap price. but do you think the customer dare to bring it out? use at office? or even bring it to audiophile gathring?
however when i do recable for my customer. i have to consider that point oso.
paying RM 150 for my recable is too much?  there's a numbers of MS1 recabled by me sold for over RM 500 while the new headphone itself just RM 280-350 previously.
try to request for recable service in headfi, with similar workmanship and parts that i provide and check if u can get it done RM 150 or not.
so pls do not simply comment on my work/ price if you don't have a clue what i am doing on those recabled headphone i had done.

by the way. Akabane@DrJackel is the new owner of my personal extreme modded MS1.
Akabane@DrJackel, how do u feel about it? it's been weeks since u got it.
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Bro PCwork,

Dun border those ppl who comment on ur price. I really think your price is reasonable. For those who donno the price of those cable n plugs, u all can check the price..if you feel is ez to do, then try to DIY urself..after you burn some driver, then you can share with us..hehe..

DIY is ez if u jz play play..but if u seriously go into DIYer...then u will feel it. to match those cable is not ez and this is a trade secret! I believe PCwork do many testing before he finalize the material. If you guys think he jz simply recable it..then ur wrong...I witness how PCwork mod things by my own eyes...thats y n dun even think of DIY..haha..NO HARD?? haha...try to do more n tell me..

Control the soldering heat...carefully take out the driver n put in a safe place...match the cable...put on those sleeve...walau...if u think is jz NOT HARD..hehe..i tell u...u r wrong..if u jz a simple DIYer that do for yourself then yes...is simple..if someone pay for u n aspect some quality work from you...then u think u can simply do? can u recable all the cans with similar SQ? haha.. many ppl wan to knw wat those popular DIYer use for their cable n material...i feel childish lor...this is ppl's trade secret right? if the DIYer is do for fun then okay la..but they are providing service..u pula ask wat they do...wahaha..

this make me remember some diyer try to take the naked photo of ppl's product n try to copy cat a similar things..then comment ppl overprice..haiz...not fair right?

Sorry for talking so much rubbish there...I admit I m pcwork supporter...all my stuff is mod by him n i never nego any price bcoz i knw how much is the material n how much he earn...frankly...u try as those DIYer in headfi or in singapore to do a serious modd...then u will knw..

Akabane!! u r so lucky!! wahaha..i nearly book it...but u r b4 me...but...come to join HIFI la...hehe

This post has been edited by theng_ye: Dec 27 2009, 12:26 PM
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post Dec 27 2009, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(theng_ye @ Dec 27 2009, 12:21 PM)
Bro PCwork,

Dun border those ppl who comment on ur price. I really think your price is reasonable. For those who donno the price of those cable n plugs, u all can check the price..if you feel is ez to do, then try to DIY urself..after you burn some driver, then you can share with us..hehe..

DIY is ez if u jz play play..but if u seriously go into DIYer...then u will feel it. to match those cable is not ez and this is a trade secret! I believe PCwork do many testing before he finalize the material. If you guys think he jz simply recable it..then ur wrong...I witness how PCwork mod things by my own eyes...thats y n dun even think of DIY..haha..NO HARD?? haha...try to do more n tell me..

Control the soldering heat...carefully take out the driver n put in a safe place...match the cable...put on those sleeve...walau...if u think is jz NOT HARD..hehe..i tell u...u r wrong..if u jz a simple DIYer that do for yourself then yes...is simple..if someone pay for u n aspect some quality work from you...then u think u can simply do? can u recable all the cans with similar SQ? haha.. many ppl wan to knw wat those popular DIYer use for their cable n material...i feel childish lor...this is ppl's trade secret right? if the DIYer is do for fun then okay la..but they are providing service..u pula ask wat they do...wahaha..

this make me remember some diyer try to take the naked photo of ppl's product n try to copy cat a similar things..then comment ppl overprice..haiz...not fair right?

Sorry for talking so much rubbish there...I admit I m pcwork supporter...all my stuff is mod by him n i never nego any price bcoz i knw how much is the material n how much he earn...frankly...u try as those DIYer in headfi or in singapore to do a serious modd...then u will knw..

Akabane!! u r so lucky!! wahaha..i nearly book it...but u r b4 me...but...come to join HIFI la...hehe
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post Dec 27 2009, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(Akabane@DrJackel @ Dec 27 2009, 02:13 PM)
Went the time is come..Amati will be at home...
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bro. if you are serious about amati. i think you must contact alvin now. so that he work with contractor to built the hifi room for you first in ur new house. amati is not something that buy , plug and play. it require really serious acoustic treatment, else you will end up with real headache like one of his customer. they just built the house. and after that found out the acoustic properties of the room is very bad. and had end up redo the whole room. wasted more than RM 100K just for room threatment.
even harmonix product used inside the room already cost an extra RM 60K on top of the RM 100K used to rebuilt the whole room. if you are dead serious about amati. u shall really go and talk to alvin. discuss what material to use in the room, what dimension of the room. how many power cord, at what rating, how many grounding. ect ect ect.

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