Alright, serious talk here.

The Girl's Club was setup for a purpose - to let the girls that hang around the forum have a place to go to to have their share of Ladies' Fellowship It's supposed to be a place where ladies can go to and discuss and all but apparently the section has gone down down down. Girl's Club is somewhat becoming Sex Central.

Now I'm opening this thread, I'd like to view constructive posts on how you ladies would like to see this place improved.

Currently, i see a lot of crap. a lot of the participants look like guys who are in for cheap thrills to add spice to their sexual fantasies.

Open for suggestions..... especially from the more senior (in terms of membership duration la! not age) ladies of LYN forum. As for guy feedbacks, yeah it'll be fine as long as it's constructive. And please, don't bother registering new accounts just and disguise as FEMALE just to participate. (I'll give the duplicate account a permanent ban while the original account a 3 day holiday if there be any).

There's not even enough participation from girls.
What to be expected?

not enough participation, so what? that doesn't mean guys should come in here and tear this place apart.

furthermore, i don't blame them for not participating either, especially when 101 other guys behave like hormonally-charged maniacs.

i think i have to agree with u goldfries.... most of the thread was filled with non-constructive reply from male/she male...

another point is when a guys tried to create a new acc and ask something baseless question here for discussion.. these guy are new without a single post yet they create a new thread here... (maybe some may claim those are ladies who wan to keep themself anonymous...) but how true is that nobody know

This post has been edited by kevinlim001: Mar 21 2008, 01:54 PM

I agree with you goldfries.

This place is turning into a huge junk with an abundance of trolls. Every time there's a new thread, 99% it's about sex. It's so sickening to look at those rubbish thread with even worse replies.

Not enough participation from girls?
1. This is a male dominated forum, of course there's lesser girls and lesser participation compared to the rest of the forum.
2. Who want to post in a thread started by obvious sex maniacs/shemales?
3. This place is meant for the girls on the first place, even if we post less, you have no right to come here and turn this into your spamming ground. You have Kopitiam for that.

It will be very helpful if we can limit what kind of sexual related threads to be allowed in this section?

This post has been edited by feyhime: Mar 21 2008, 02:03 PM

well there are few ideas from me such as:

1. Set a post count requirement in this section.
2. Every member should be check whether there is a second acc (well, if the mod is free enough)
3. No sex topics are allowed? But if the girl who post it, i dun think i mind.


4. still thinking... Oh ya.. is there a mod in this thread? If there is, i dun think the mod is active.

5. Baseless replies will be clean.

seriously there is nothing much we can do, except the female step up, cheers

This post has been edited by nickisthemost: Mar 21 2008, 02:27 PM

i've always like GC coz i can find info here but...

get more female mod... then again, there's less female here... how to get more female mods?

i support to "baseless replies will be clean"...

n i also found that sometimes (desperate) sellers post their WTS here n there... wat to do wif them?

This post has been edited by nicKit: Mar 21 2008, 02:39 PM

Seriously, I don't see any other option except for the mods to be more active. The R&R is loud and clear about guys starting topics, so they come and they reply and 'bawak lari' [divert] the topic to either sex, sex or sex. Or, enter the she-males with new accounts asking for opinions, advice etc.

I dunno, maybe the guys think it's cute, but it's actually pathetic. But what can the girls do, really? Except for ignoring those topics altogether? Or, maybe they can do what I do, ignore the whole sub-forum altogether...

Like I said, much as I hate to suggest this, mainly because the mods are not paid and are not supposed to play nanny to immature retards, I think the mods need to be more attentive. If things/topics stray wayyy out of hand, intervene, carry out the appropriate action [delete, edit post/topic etc] or maybe, if the offense is that big, give the offender a holiday.

how about totally banning any thread related to sexual stuffs ?
Afterall, it kind of mind boggling to think a girl would ask those question, though there are still chances some of them might be naive.

or stuck all the girls in Girls' Sanctuary, isn't that what the thread are for lulz

which is why i drop by from time to time. consider there's WAY more mess around other area, GC's problem is currently sick people, sick threads and sick urges. but they're not as pain as Kopitiam and Football Lounge.

anyway, the point of this thread is to get a general feedback from the participants to help the section for lady community of LYN to improve.

among the many section of LYN forum, probably the one with lousiest growth / progress would be Girl's Club. Reason? Well you guys know why la.

i personally think that post count is not an issue. sexually related topic should be alright but i think it's time we put a consideration on WHO started the topic.

nowadays, you see people less than 24 hrs but somehow know how to come here and post a sexually charged "hawt hawt hawt" question that guys love to know the answer. LOL. end up guys asking and guys answering.

from what i observe, most girls that register won't know about LYN's Girl's Club after a little while later unless someone intro them to this place.

perhaps we could start it like this la, you gals / guys just click the REPORT button if you see some strange folk just registered and started a new odd topic. do notice how these fellas often just register, post a topic and go missing. it's like WTH!?!?! all they could post are stuff like "what do you think about orgasm?" but never even post some view or observation of their own to start the ball rolling.



as for guys being mod - seriously la better girls be GC mod. currently mod is only juichuan, again it's not easy to monitor everything that goes around, which is why i'm here to hang around. still looking for mods to whip things to shape. hehe.

Hmm then what do you suggest? We limit thread opening in GC to people who registered say pass 3 months (or something like that)? If so Moderator preview on every new thread will be necessary right?

a few months before allowed to start topic BUT they can participate on any existing topic.

sounds nice.

Besides the suggestions listed...

If you don't want to completely ban mature and open discussion of sexually-related topics, set up a 'sexual health' board or something. Then all the 'cannot get any' 13 year olds can actually go troll there, and we can impose stricter rules on Girls' Club posts. Of course, that board would probably need to be moderated even more heavily then GC considering the mental state of most Malaysian teenage guys... :S

I rather let you girls decide what should / should not be allowed.

while waiting for a moderator to come, can always use the REPORT button. or heck, PM me if need. I'm always around on LYN / MSN and whatever else.

i for one think we should make this a girls only section. Guys are only allowed to read, not post replies. And those who change their member tag to female and post will have their tag permanently set as female!

Good idea XD

I think I saw quite a few guys who have the female tag on all the time anyways. The 13 or 14 year old girl or something...

as long as the ladies are in favor of it.

by not doing what se7en mentioned, how else is GC going to recover?

the founding mothers of GC (like kyliemin.....) did whip the whip and also was kind enough to allow guys to post in GC, however this kindness was not properly treasured. guys took this for their advantage and that is where GC is now.

btw I'd also like to propose that
1. any NEW account that's found imitating a GIRL and starting a topic here. the duplicate account will be permanently banned while the original account (yes, of the owner) will get a 21 day ban.
2. any NEW account that come in (without being recorded as duplicate account) IS subjected to scrutiny and MAY subject to be banned as well.
3. IF any supposedly tag female account was discovered for actually being a guy - permanent ban! hehe...... ok well let the ladies decide la. i don't think permenantly leaving them as female tag would help la se7en, plenty of them do that. it'll give them nutso access to GC. so i prefer they get permenantly banned or something. hehe.

well, u guys can change the rules anytime, i would like to try out "not allowing guys to post" beta version

How about we ban them for say 1 month and give them a new permanent FAG tag instead, since they like to pretend to be girls so much =.= Of course FAG tag has no access to GC

This post has been edited by feyhime: Mar 21 2008, 06:29 PM

nickisthemost won't get to do welcome message already.

i don't mind feyhime is already doing it, the reason i welcome them so that they feel welcome and participate more in this forum, i do see a lil bit increase in Kopitiam section though

Strange, I join in welcoming because you make it a habit XD

Well, you've been consistent though. hat's off to that!

btw Kopitiam is getting a clean-up as well. bit by bit.

now it's a matter of stopping GC from being another Kopitiam / Cupid's Corner.

hehe. i welcome cos i think having a staff / mod do the welcoming adds value. chehhhh LYN got value-added service leh.

This post has been edited by goldfries: Mar 21 2008, 06:40 PM

Yes, I would agree that GC is becoming a sexual sub-forum in a way, I do visit this sub-forum but some threads just don't attract me to reply at all.

If combine these two ideas will be great but I think this sub-forum would not be that popular anymore as LYN is dominated by males, unfortunately.

I would suggest idea like RWI, where the in charge moderators read through the contents of the thread before it is approved to be posted up in GC.

This post has been edited by fruitie: Mar 21 2008, 06:54 PM

considering se7en idea to block all male from give reply on this thread doesnt sound good... some guy they have knowledge they can share it in a better way than girls.. as some girl are too shy to talk abt when they put on all their details on their profile.
I think it would be good for guy to reply as long as all the reply are valid and reasonable, ban those guy who open thread here will be sufficient

Another point is any TS shd have at least 20-30 (any reasonable minimum no. of post) post before they allow to post at GC

i second that!!

wat abt GC's garage sales ar? i find it

Yes, Stuff for Ladies is another headache sub-forum section for Trade Enforcers. I will do a cleaning spree soon.

can we start here by sniffing out pretenders? shemales.

Sure why not?

uncle goldfish been talking abt this for the past 1 yrs...

need a mod *staring @ feyhime*

Hi, i'm a noob but just my thoughts....usually the "she"males are the ones that start all those explicit topics that really need not be discussed, so maybe you'd just like to make sure no topics like that surface

Gladys> stares back @ you

izcuje> Yeah that's like the major problem we are having right now... If you see any do click the Report button for everyone of us!

For starters why cant we just close all the sexually obvious topics and give them a week's warning?

definitely can.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/658864
Like that one?

that one potential to be closed lor. but since @nnie has so far seem to be a lady (based on posts), i'm letting the rest of the ladies decide whether it should be closed.

i'm closing all the bleeding obvious though.

FIXED and FAGS are not allowed as feyhime said

No FAG tag?

BTW, dun think it's a good idea that all guys are not allowed here. Some guys really came in here to find out what females actually thinks like (I'm female and I came in here to find out what is in a female's head and all I see is sex topic, bad bad image!)

Not allowed as in cannot post, but they can view, I think. Uncle Goldfries?

Yeah that 1 should be close seems like she*ahchewmale* to me.

The image....
The guys know that its she male if they don't they are really noob,.

Then you cut out the guy's point of view and no guys to talk in girl's club

at present is as stated in the rules in GC lor.

unless you gurls want rules changed to GUYS NO POST thing.

shemales that come to post get 15 days holiday. with a holiday video.

Nah, I think it's more logical to not allowed thread opening by guys but we allow them to participate... But yes to the holiday for shemales.

i suggest that all female lyn member need to post their picture in thier avatar holding a lyn banner and a current newspaper to prove it.

this including hp number.

noooooo that will make it Kopitiam spam material.

i think that'll be too much privacy involved.

This post has been edited by goldfries: Mar 25 2008, 02:10 PM

wat bout sending to moderator to approve?

if send to admin and moderator...then kena harrass by you guys..then how wor?

coz moderator account and msn also kena hack...

now i dunno where this goldfries is real or jz a gold fish

of course real la. no one got into my LYN account leh.

Err no way. I'll like to keep my privacy thank you.

And to know if Goldfries is real, it's the English XD

This post has been edited by feyhime: Mar 25 2008, 02:29 PM

Yeah Id agree to that no fagots to open queer threads, she males go holiday.

I detect buaya in disguise.

Wah~ didn't notice this thread was up until now. So spicy now this thread. Ok ok, jokes off now.

Really glad that GC Cleaning Operation has been planned.

For starter, I feel that all the absurd threads(refer to non-constructive sex talks/education <if u prefer I call it that way>) that created in GC should be close/scrap/burn.

Second, referring to previous GC Rules, NO GUYS ALLOWED TO CREATE THREAD should really fully enforced. If it happen to be a duplicate account(like what Goldfries anticipate), Permanent BAN on the Duplicate Acc. and added several days of FAG tag on the Main acc. before sending them to another holidays (after the end of FAG tag period) if they fail to explain for themselves (During the FAG tag period).

Lastly, Sex talk/education related thread should be categorized as another Sub-forum of GC to reduce the mess (while all the threads being closely monitor).

Again, this is just my suggestions. No matter what, it's very hard to create a win-win situation unless Girls starting to step up for their own territory.

It's hard to differentiate duplicate accounts too. Some people login from all places. If you see my account you'll be surprised

About NO GUYS ALLOWED TO CREATE THREAD should really be enforced. But give a longer and heavier penalty as suggested by many of us here

Maybe this is not a bad idea at all. If we can't stop people from talking about Sex, then just make a subforum for this. At least all craps goes there. Well, guys/girls who wanna open a topic about sex can just open it in the Sex talk/education subforum. Age verification should be done too.

This post has been edited by suiteng: Mar 25 2008, 04:11 PM

Yup I kinda agree with these points, but how do you veryfy someone's age?

It was the original intention that was given to kyliemin even before GC was formed. IMO, just keep it that way. Only the ladies can create thread(s) while guys can only view and post constructively. Of course this has to be monitored closely by the person in charge in order to avoid spams or rubbish comments. (please be diligent a bit yeah?)

Sex talk is another issue that i wanted to highlight long time ago, why is being allowed in the first place? Yes we need sex education talk yada yada yada but from the threads that i read, mostly are rubbish comments which has no relevance at all!
It's either you ban sex talk or you be a bit more hardworking in checking here.

1 of the reason why i did not check GC after i asked se7en to remove my staff tag few years back

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Anyways if you find my comments offensive, please inform me via PM. I do not want to be labeled as someone who hurts the ladies here



ps-my gf is here somewhere too and i'm sure she's gonna pull my ears soon

This post has been edited by alkt: Mar 25 2008, 04:41 PM

Yeah but well we don't have a mod (haven't seen juichuan around even though she's tagged as Mod for GC) in GC. So that's probably why it wasn't enforced.

I don't even know why sex talk was allowed in the first place. There wasn't much when kyliemin was around, even if there was, it was serious discussion and not the junk craps shemales posted these days. IMHO sex talk need to go for our sanity's sake. It doesn't do any good other than inviting more shemales and trolls over....

If there's a DOB section in your profile, should be able to check age too right?

Well, as I said, if you can't stop it - make a section for it.

At least this way GC is cleaner.

This post has been edited by suiteng: Mar 25 2008, 05:21 PM

This one sounds very suspicious to me. Especially the 'including hp number' part!

there has been tons of petition for sex subforum, but the best conclude so far was " if there was no sex thread, then there won't be hassle to moderate it"

suiteng you be the mod then for that section , it's easy to pointing it out but it is not as easy as it seems to mod sex thread lulz

LOL I dun think should be so conservative la.. look at AsianFanatics forum.

to mod a sex thread isn't an issue if people talk like mature adults. unfortunately it isn't so over at LYN.

I think the old rule, girls are only allowed to post a thread, still stand
beside, for guys who is planning or going to post reply...their reply must be related or constructive meaning to the topic. If their reply are "spam"...serve them a warning.

as for those topic that only satisfied those so called "female" tag member's fantasy, close it and served them 1 week or more ban from forum.

Ohh yeah forgot about that been quite a while since I registered here.

As I said its a buaya in disguise

Can't we just BAN sex threads, what so constructive about it anyway if they want to learn there are tones of info for them to google about.

Either old rules or just BAN sex thread permanently.

I would agree on the idea to ban topics that contain sex contents permanently.
Idea on banning shemales should be implemented though it is not so effective as things are out of control, after all this is Internet. Fakes and lies are everywhere.


p/s: Hey, I am a real female OK?

for sex topic.. malaysianbabes actually required pw to access that protected forum. maybe we can do that too ? for real girl who want to enter, password will be ic.. ic can differentiate female or shemale. of coz..system implement thingy leave to mod how they wannt it to be verification.

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No offence though I feel that even there the topics are too sluty and perverted. Maybe just my background on sex.

erm.. i mean not open sex chat like the link quote above la..
certain thing still allow to discuss rite ? as long as have a mod to monitor it. n shoo away all the shemale n perverted topic

Yeah shooing away the shemales is of primary importance. Just ban them all.

later moderator or people use my IC to scam forummer how wor?

True. If they have something legit to discuss, they wouldn't be posing as a female afterall.

i support the ban all sex-related stuffs...
i think goldfries tried to recruit a new mod for GC back then... but no one?
wif less eyes watching in GC, of coz it's a big mess...
i miss those days when GC is a happy place to come over...

Make all the frequent posting reliable girls mods, but for only GC? Then that solves the problem of not enough eyes?

or mayb pre-approved thread? new thread need to be approved then can show up?

pre-app la stuff like that just create more job for a mod la..who wanna do these thing :\

@rosygirl, jsut a suggention anyway, no necessary must be ic.. hmm
ban guy or not, actually jsut secondary issue.. primary issue is need a mod to clean up those *_*" topic. ugly sin @ GC.

But then the topic can still go other ways.

Yeah throw the rubbish out and keep them out.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/658864/
this topic i allowed a chance to be open but from the current direction, I'm inclined to close it so I'm going to do it.

this is also based on the general feedback that action should be taken on sex-related topic.

seriously la. from my POV, there's more things to a Girl's life than sex. sex is just 1 part of it, just as with any other individual on earth - male or female.

from now on. SEX related topics are to be cloesd on sight.

aiyerr

converted muslim thread

eh, it has always been enforced.

you didn't realize how many people i sent off for holiday for the offence ah?

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Added on March 27, 2008, 12:20 amsorry. what's this ah? care to elaborate?

anyway you ladies confirm with the "ban / take action on sex related threads" thing? or would you ladies prefer "allow it to open BUT see how it goes" ?

either way, use the report button. or PM me should you think a thread is worth KIV for closing.

This post has been edited by goldfries: Mar 27 2008, 12:20 AM

3 days too short. They will be back. What about heavier penalty like a week, that's more scary

Girls, what's your opinion on the above?

At least one week! Make it 2 XD deprive them off LYN XD

ok. how about those sexually related threads? like the one started by @nnie recently.

I don't mind education based sex threads (like for example how to prevent STDs/getting pregnant/etc) but not threads that tells the world about your sex romps and fantasies. I mean like, hey everyone does it but I am not interested with how you get high and like to be done.

Woohoo~ Being off for a moment sure missed a lot of good things.

Thanks for Goldy(Goldfries) and other mod(if they are involve) hard work

What feyhime said is exactly correct. Sex Education tread such as that are good but please no sex fantasies thread.(I'm disgusted even by just reading the title)

This post has been edited by Yukirin: Mar 27 2008, 02:39 PM

Hooray for goldfried for closing those retard threads.

What musilim?? The world was conservative until the US people start to have "liberalization" lets not get into history.

Id say a month, let them get off internet addiction Id say.

IMO I think it there should not be exceptions unless as what fey said its related to abortion, STD such urgent needs, and not some sexual enjoyment how to get high threads.

I thought only married people do it.

aiya.. i mean no sex no drink no smoke no gamble..typical muslim rule..


anyways i agree with @fey..

Are you sure they do not visit their wives at bed?

erm... i dun think so. pm have 2 wifes?

pm got 2 wives but the 2 is not at same time mah.

anyway back to topic. any other suggestions?

I guess thats about it.... seems much better now thought off and on still have some stupid sex topics but much more moderate.

ok. we'll start with that and also - do REPORT if manage to sniff out some sneaky guys attempting to get cheap thrills!

i'll still be here.

finally GC would have more constructive thread... last time used to drop my here to find out stuff and contribute some... will be on da look out for you know who...

shemales are not welcome! j/k referring to those guys who pretend to be female just to ask people questions to fulfill their sexual fantasies.

Finally a big clean up (soon..) for GC!
my opinion as above..
and
1.yes,hire more mod here.juichuan alone is definitely not sufficient to maintain GC.
2.say if GC only allow girls, topic like fashion and beauty no longer accountable for males?
i notice alot of males enquire about skin care problem too..
3.for any female tag newbies, there will an auto PM send into their inbox for R&R reference + GC introduction.
(set gender tag as compulsory field)
thanks!

Males are allowed to open topics in Fashion and Beauty right?

yes u are right ,suiteng
the earlier post reply by admin said if GC not allow guys, does it mean subforum like fashion beauty also not allow?



This post has been edited by rayanne: Apr 9 2008, 09:05 AM