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Home Theatre Onkyo SR605 + 5.1 Onkyo Speaker system, SenQ selling at 4.8k now...

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sunauto
post Apr 8 2008, 01:57 AM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Apr 7 2008, 11:54 PM)
I have tried the AAD bi-pole speakers. Yes, it does help in making it more expansive effect but a little 'overchoke' esp for DTS-ES6.1 encoded discs.

At the end, didnt buy to upgrade my KEF standmount spkrs. It just aint my cup of coffee.
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Well, bi-polar speakers need to have proper placement and they need space to breath too plus you need to do some tweaking from the AVR so that they will sound even much better. Honestly, it did improve the soundstage of my setup.
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post Apr 8 2008, 09:59 AM

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i also interested in bi-pole speakers but haven't got a chance to demo it myself... got real difference from normal speakers? night and day diff?

is this considered a bi-pole speakers?
http://www.axiomaudio.com/qs4_info.html

cost around RM1300 + shipping to here...

wanna add 2 more speakers! hehe smile.gif
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post Apr 8 2008, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(apisgogo @ Apr 8 2008, 09:59 AM)
i also interested in bi-pole speakers but haven't got a chance to demo it myself... got real difference from normal speakers? night and day diff?

is this considered a bi-pole speakers?
http://www.axiomaudio.com/qs4_info.html

cost around RM1300 + shipping to here...

wanna add 2 more speakers! hehe smile.gif
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Apis,

Yup, they're considered bi-pole speakers. Some ppl dun like bi-pole speakers as they diffuse the sound, they prefer downfiring rear speakers but diffuse sound is more natural and it's the way intended by movie makers. It sounds more natural and expansive. You can do an A to B comparison before making your decision.
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post Apr 8 2008, 03:39 PM

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my house got 1 set whafaDIU bipole surround

not day n night difference la

but got better also rolleyes.gif

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post Apr 9 2008, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(megatron007 @ Apr 8 2008, 03:39 PM)
my house got 1 set whafaDIU bipole surround

not day n night difference la

but got better also  rolleyes.gif
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Which model you're using? They're one with Kevlar drivers one for their bi-pole speakers, the bass is more geng even driven hard.

As I've mentioned placement of the speakers are important to get the best sound if compared to normal surround speakers but no regrets despite all the hassles. I wanted to buy B&W DS6 bi-poles last time but at RM4K, I nearly fainted, now discontinued pulak, the latest model pulak around RM6K. doh.gif Damn ....
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post Apr 9 2008, 01:44 PM

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ya...my whafediu all kelvar.... diamon8 series

B&W bipole??

yeah yeah

the price always very "NICE" also

wat speakers u using now bro ??
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post Apr 9 2008, 10:48 PM

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At that time, B&W bi-poles are almost same price with KEF Q bi-poles and Klipsch bi-poles. Now..... *sigh*
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post Apr 11 2008, 01:43 AM

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QUOTE(megatron007 @ Apr 9 2008, 01:44 PM)
SUNauto

ya...my whafediu all kelvar.... diamon8 series

B&W bipole??

yeah yeah

the price always very "NICE" also

wat speakers u using now bro ??
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B&W speakers are really nice and I'm happy with the sound but when I wanted to buy the B&W bi-pole speakers, they said discontinued liao but the new model is available and the price more than my Full HD LCD. doh.gif

The only thing I don't like about B&W is their subwoofers, overpriced and too tame, still prefer something like REL and Velodyne.

QUOTE(htkaki @ Apr 9 2008, 10:48 PM)
At that time, B&W bi-poles are almost same price with KEF Q bi-poles and Klipsch bi-poles. Now..... *sigh*
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Yup, my friend already stopped selling B&W speakers b'coz the price went up so high and furthermore, some are made in China, mana ada orang mau beli. At least my B&W speakers are all made in UK and they can be driven real hard without any cracking sound. Damn impressive. Luckily I bought them early, if not, now also cannot afford lah.
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post Apr 11 2008, 09:34 AM

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so if i find used and vintage b&w, its worth to buy?
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post Apr 11 2008, 09:36 AM

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Same as my case here. Bought the Klipsch at early stage. Now, the price tag is sweat.gif
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post Apr 11 2008, 10:16 AM

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Aiya,

Country of origin should not be de basis to judge a productla.. Now wif globalisation.. every manu is goin for cheap labor mah.. besides sum lcd tvs are made in mal, sos ae, sum missions, yammy avrs .. all good stuff mah.. try first la if really lousy then dont buy lo..

I guess I ll put my head on de choppin block la but for de price of BW, Ill look at Thiels, dynaudio, quad, harbeth too.. imo better materials n workmanship

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post Apr 11 2008, 10:23 AM

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Drive Units
Frequency Response
Sensitivity
1 x 26mm dome/coil construction of
special polymide material
2 x 200mm nominal piston dia and
26mm high temperature voice coil with
critically impregnated composite short
fibre cone
± 3dB 53Hz to 20kHz
90dB (2.83V, 1m)
Power Handling
Dimensions
Finish
10W - 100W
Height: 680mm Width: 290mm
Depth: 320mm
American Walnut or Black Ash vinyl

pls advice, this spec good?
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post Apr 11 2008, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Apr 11 2008, 10:23 AM)
Drive Units
Frequency Response
Sensitivity
1 x 26mm dome/coil construction of
special polymide material
2 x 200mm nominal piston dia and
26mm high temperature voice coil with
critically impregnated composite short
fibre cone
± 3dB 53Hz to 20kHz
90dB (2.83V, 1m)
Power Handling
Dimensions
Finish
10W - 100W
Height: 680mm Width: 290mm
Depth: 320mm
American Walnut or Black Ash vinyl

pls advice, this spec good?
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Kakaka,

Buy spkrs like dat.. dielo

Can verify all written there is true?

N how does is it sound?

Cabinetry how ah?

Lite or heavy?

Kekeke
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post Apr 11 2008, 10:31 AM

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why die?

u mean the details is fake?

sounds not bad, abit heavy
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post Apr 11 2008, 10:40 AM

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All nos can be rigged to look good.. just like cars la can give 220hp @ 8krpms but if u look at torq fig its like 200 @ 5krpms or sumthin - when u drive its like u wanna race all de time.. Ok back to spkrs.. I hv seen really great figs on midi compos too but it dont mean they sound great n de cabinetry sucks oso..

BTW if it sounds good yanked up wif extended listenin, then its good stuff.. oh ya I dunno but at certain price pt de cabinets should look it too.. but tats just me la .. others might differ..
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post Apr 11 2008, 10:54 AM

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lets say this specs are true
is it worth it?
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post Apr 11 2008, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(sunauto @ Apr 11 2008, 01:43 AM)
B&W speakers are really nice and I'm happy with the sound but when I wanted to buy the B&W bi-pole speakers, they said discontinued liao but the new model is available and the price more than my Full HD LCD.  doh.gif

The only thing I don't like about B&W is their subwoofers, overpriced and too tame, still prefer something like REL and Velodyne.
Yup, my friend already stopped selling B&W speakers b'coz the price went up so high and furthermore, some are made in China, mana ada orang mau beli. At least my B&W speakers are all made in UK and they can be driven real hard without any cracking sound. Damn impressive. Luckily I bought them early, if not, now also cannot afford lah.
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Jason... found 1 selling online B&W DS6 Rear Surround Speakers (Used)

about 2k++

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http://hifi4sale.blogspot.com/
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post Apr 12 2008, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Apr 11 2008, 09:34 AM)
so if i find used and vintage b&w, its worth to buy?
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The answer is a big yes if you find a good pair of used B&Ws. There are imported B&W speakers from the UK but according to my friend, you have to pay more than RM10K for a pair based on the current prices. B&W speakers are not that expensive in the UK, our local distributor goreng the price and blamed it on the British Pounds, macam-macam punya excuses pun ada.

QUOTE(megatron007 @ Apr 11 2008, 04:32 PM)
Jason... found 1 selling online B&W DS6 Rear Surround Speakers (Used)

about 2k++

user posted image

http://hifi4sale.blogspot.com/
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If RM2K++ too mahal liao ........ unless can nego less than RM2K then maybe lah ... you know hi-fi speakers lah, if I trade in aje, I already loose at least 50% of the market value.
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post Apr 12 2008, 11:41 AM

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bro sun, u think u can see the specs i posted? its the spec sheet from the B&W i was toking abt
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post Apr 13 2008, 02:18 AM

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QUOTE(rx330 @ Apr 12 2008, 11:41 AM)
bro sun, u think u can see the specs i posted? its the spec sheet from the B&W i was toking abt
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The specs don't mean anything to me, most important we personally audition them and we'll know whether the speakers are up to your expectations.

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