I think anything above 20khz won't be noticeable since our human ears can only hear up to 20khz but that depends on our age, as we get older, our hearing range will decrease so uncompressed PCM might sound just like normal DD track. Better enjoy while we are young, if not later old liao, DD and DTS also sound the same.

Most good floorstanders can do around 30hz to 35hz like that, anything lower than that, can only be achieved with the help of a subwoofer.

I guess decent subs can do at least 26HZ, the lower the better. I guess I'm used to the bass generated by REL and Velodyne subs, really convincing and power.

Poor RX, mention about bathroom pun kena pijak.

They train you to be a stronger person.

Well, the Reon processor is used in Denon's high end dvd players but if a Denon high end dvd player is priced around RM6K plus, then getting an Onkyo receiver will be much more worth it for the price.

Basically 7.1 means two surround backs instead of 1 surround back, izzit? Currently, I'm just running 6.1 (6 speakers & 1 sub).

The 7.1 sound used by BD movies are not discrete, right? Meaning the two surround backs are only matrixed and not discrete. Am I correct? This is because I went to check the specs for Yammy's RX-V3800, the surround backs are not discrete even it supports 7.1 lossless audio so will we have future amps that can do 7.1 discrete?

That one I dunno ler .......... wait till I get the amp end of this month baru I tau. If it really can support 7.1 discrete channels leh ....... I guess I need to order another pair of Wharfedale's bi-polar speakers.

Bi-polar speakers very syiok I tell you, the rears sounded more expansive and lively. I don't mind getting another pair if it's needed for 7.1 but frankly, I don't care what the experts say. Even THX certification means nothing to me, most important that I like the sound cukup ler. I'm not a Hi-Fi purist anyway so I'll just buy whatever I hear is nice.

Well, bi-polar speakers need to have proper placement and they need space to breath too plus you need to do some tweaking from the AVR so that they will sound even much better. Honestly, it did improve the soundstage of my setup.

Apis,

Yup, they're considered bi-pole speakers. Some ppl dun like bi-pole speakers as they diffuse the sound, they prefer downfiring rear speakers but diffuse sound is more natural and it's the way intended by movie makers. It sounds more natural and expansive. You can do an A to B comparison before making your decision.

Which model you're using? They're one with Kevlar drivers one for their bi-pole speakers, the bass is more geng even driven hard.

As I've mentioned placement of the speakers are important to get the best sound if compared to normal surround speakers but no regrets despite all the hassles. I wanted to buy B&W DS6 bi-poles last time but at RM4K, I nearly fainted, now discontinued pulak, the latest model pulak around RM6K. Damn ....

B&W speakers are really nice and I'm happy with the sound but when I wanted to buy the B&W bi-pole speakers, they said discontinued liao but the new model is available and the price more than my Full HD LCD.

The only thing I don't like about B&W is their subwoofers, overpriced and too tame, still prefer something like REL and Velodyne.

Yup, my friend already stopped selling B&W speakers b'coz the price went up so high and furthermore, some are made in China, mana ada orang mau beli. At least my B&W speakers are all made in UK and they can be driven real hard without any cracking sound. Damn impressive. Luckily I bought them early, if not, now also cannot afford lah.

The answer is a big yes if you find a good pair of used B&Ws. There are imported B&W speakers from the UK but according to my friend, you have to pay more than RM10K for a pair based on the current prices. B&W speakers are not that expensive in the UK, our local distributor goreng the price and blamed it on the British Pounds, macam-macam punya excuses pun ada.

If RM2K++ too mahal liao ........ unless can nego less than RM2K then maybe lah ... you know hi-fi speakers lah, if I trade in aje, I already loose at least 50% of the market value.

The specs don't mean anything to me, most important we personally audition them and we'll know whether the speakers are up to your expectations.

I can double confirm this, Rogers memang distributed by Wo Kee Hong.

If the speaker surrounds are broken, those can be replaced but if the voice coil is fried, you gotta change a new driver and yup, pretty expensive.