i just lol'd when he said 'you may use the terms "Banana"' and 'i used the term "English Culture" without realising it'.

i was half expecting him to end it with 'jolly good show, chaps.'

personally i dont see any point in pc-ing it into 'english culture', or English Cult as samteng puts it. we damn well don't see them drinking tea at four and having pudding before desserts. what you people see as english culture is merely anything that is non-chinese culture.

i mean over here, liberal thinknig is not a part of the culture at all; it's just an effect after the development of the liberalism ideal. i can go on and say that in terms of philosophical development (in terms of developing ideals such as liberalism, individualism, and such) asians are way way behind the west. but that's rwi stuff.

english ed is an appropiate term. the education system incorporated the many post-enlightenment era philosophical development (education is actually a complex philosophical subject) stressing on individual thinking whereas the chinese tend to focus on the social, and develops the individual less. it makes sense, actually: having generations after generations of people who obey authority makes governing them easier, which in china with its billions of people is indeed a problem. of course, you get a bunch of robots who are on an individual basis you can run rings around. they get lost when the info is not in front of them. that's why you see all the chinamen flooding the more mathematical paths of economics while absolutely none are picking up philosophy.

of course, the western thought is stunted somewhat in malaysia because of asian parental and societal pressure.

so yeah, 'english ed' is more appropiate than 'english culture'.

This post has been edited by empyreal: Oct 14 2008, 07:11 AM

My thoughts:

Why I don't support Chinese ed, because:

Firstly, what's the point of only talking about Cantopop or Mandarinpop all the time? Most of the time, when you hang out with them at kopitiams, they talk trash and rubbish without value. Bring in topics on politics and real world issues, they'd be mute and not know what to say. Why so? They just give me the impression that they're less intelligent, less educated, and highly ignorant of what's going on around them. Neither do they want to care about finding out more, just go on and live life talking rubbish, nice wan meh?

Secondly, I just have the impression that the girls are influenced to think that marrying a rich guy is their life goal. They know nothing about women's rights, female empowerment, and how important it is for a woman to be independent after marriage and have her own source of income and career. I always believe that when a woman stops working and stays home, and all she does is just to suck her husband's money dry (shopping and "tea sessions" with other like-minded tai tai, again talking rubbish), she loses all sense of her own identity in this society and her purpose living this life. Did they really think that the husband will always be around? What if one day he leaves her for younger and prettier women? She would have no backup income and career to make her own living. It's ironic that most of these girls don't learn from their parents especially when divorce rates are definitely higher in Chinese ed families than English ed families.

And you'll also notice that in entertainment outlets, most Chinese men who fondle and fool around with the bar waitresses come from Chinese ed background. Got a family yet choose to come to places like this, ish.

Thirdly, again, most of them don't seem to have a clear career goal. I'm not saying all Chinese ed are like that, but most are. They don't seem interested in aiming high in their career, all they want is just a rich husband. At the meantime while they're still searching, they'll do jobs like freelance promoter/ushering/waitressing/pr for many years until they're married. Pays well but there's no future in those industries, who still wants to hire girls in their 30s? There's no hope in building a career there, I just think they're very short-sighted thinking they can live with such income and without building a career.

Nuff said!

why i prefer English ed, because:

Firstly, their intelligence and worldliness. I can talk about Malaysian politics, US presidential campaign, economy, my own office politics, her own office politics, career choices, and she can give me solid and valid opinions. Who knows, the discussion may result in full of different ideas and variety in opinions.

Secondly, I like a career woman for their identity, independence, and intelligence. I think I've made that very obvious. English ed girls know better what career choices are more beneficial. Most of them definitely know freelance jobs or office positions in dead-end companies won't do their career any good. And with a career wife, I'd be proud to bring her along to my corporate functions since she'll be able to converse with my colleagues and even make contacts. If I bring a Chinese ed who only knows kopitiam rubbish talk, she'd be bored to death in this kinda function.

Thirdly, dress sense of English ed definitely better. More classy and sophisticated. I think we've all criticized on how tasteless the "lala" fashion is, unfortunately fancied by Chinese ed girls at large. Imagine being seen going out with them *shudders*

This is my own experience with people of Chinese ed and English ed. Generally I prefer mixing with English ed, they are more interesting and open-minded, so there goes....!

lol~
now i realized that if my gf was english ed, how am i gonna win an argument with her.

anyway about my views,
i see most of the chinese ed girls like to wear those like fantasy fantasy style of fashion from korea or taiwan.
dunno bout you guys but i think that sucks man...

haha..vr true..their clothing sense is just......

go hav a round in sungei wang..lol..

yeah
and i thought i was the only one who thought so.
cant they just wear a plain tee with jeans?
lol

This post has been edited by anthrax33: Oct 14 2008, 09:42 AM

Banyak songeh la...
Girls are girls...
What's with this categorizing them into chinese or english ed?
EEG can also be ignorant about politics and such while CEG can pawn your ass talking about Anwar BS case..
EEG can be dumb, dependent and a TVB star wannabe while CEG can be the next Hilary Clinton..
EEG can also be lala and CEG a posh spice...

Haiz.. Complain complain complain...
Look into the mirror first la before compare and condemm ppl...

And someone even come up with the term hybrid...
Pardon me french but nabeh, you think we girls are aliens ah?

haha~
i hate to generalize but
if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck,
its almost definitely a duck.

This post has been edited by anthrax33: Oct 14 2008, 11:01 AM

The categories exist, cause its true Not everyone fits the typical stereotype, but the stereotype does exist. It doesn't only apply to girls, the english-ed vs chinese-ed applies to guys as well.

I dunno about other girls la, but I think you're weird enough to be an alien

Go die..

I was complimenting you!

I'm weird..

lol...i do prefer english ed as well...i previously had a chinese ed gf.. i had trouble getting my tots to her.. she's not understandfing my problem.. in the end v jz break up.. cos its hard.. wif her parents coming down hard on us cos i'm nt rich, i speak my mind(had an argument wif them bout sum stuff which they deemed superstitious, but i see no sense in dat) and funny enuff i was an agent for a different company(they see me as threat to their biz..haha)..

That's why I like ya

i am eng ed girl..but most of my bfs are chinese ed..hmm? opposites attract?.. but you cant really categorize them in their dressing..i am eng ed but i like to wear korean & taiwan clothing too..jz not to the extant taht it is too lala.sometimes i like to wear street,,sometimes punk, sometims girly..it's just clothes duhh it's used to express yourself .and as long as i can carry the style and it looks good on me..you cant really judge whether it sucks or not.. and because isnt it subjective and ignoreant to judge ppl's clothing jz because most ppl cant carry it off doesnt mean noone can..so hush bout how u guys hate certain style.. ok i get it you guys like gals to wear matured, feminine, high class clothes,, but thats not every girls cup of tea..at least not mine..i dont see myself a 20yr old tryin to dres like a 30 yr old..i'll get there when i get there..

-end- what a rant! pheww

wah a serious post from meru

apela...siok sendiri je...borinnnn alahhhh ya allllahhhhh

apa ni, sudah masuk islam ke?

eng ed is good to fark around, chinese ed wan can keep at home in the kitchen, yes i'm generalizing

haha no ler...i love pork too much

don't worry i won't keep you inside kitchen since you're english ed