hahaha dude, that's like the worst combo

Your definition of open/close minded is quite different from the norm. Open minded people can accept new/different ideas, close-minded people cannot. Its not about thinking before accepting, open minded people do that too, close minded people just stick to their believes despite contrary evidence or rationale. If you've never experienced handling close-minded people, you wouldn't know.


You've obviously haven't seen how chinese-ed girls dress. Its not about being conservative, you'll see a lot of skin too. Its once again, in the mentality, and you simply cannot deny that english-ed girls tend to be more elegant and sophisticated. Why? Probably because they understand the concept of individuality, which doesn't really seem to exist in chinese education.

Go to friendster, and see how many lala muis you can find, these girls... all chinese ed. You will hardly find an english ed lala mui.

Remember, your opinions tell what kind of person you are as well. Look at the way you just responded to his opinion, you think you're any better? It may be his opinion, but from my experience (I mix a lot with both sides), its true.

Dude, you need to get out more often. Go on and chase the chinese ed women, you may be lucky for sometime, but eventually you'll meet their close minded parents, and oh boy, are you in for a world of headaches G`luck on that


Promote sophistication? You REALLY REALLY need to get out more often and see the world man. Just look at how the typical english ed girl dresses and how a typical chinese ed girl dresses, and you'll see the difference in sophistication. Check out the fashion sense in Sungei Wang vs The Curve as a simple example Unless your definition of sophistication is lala mui style.... then... I have nothing to say.

As for education, again you're dead wrong. I'm not chinese educated, but my cousins were, and from what I know from them, the education is heavily based on memorisation, and its has a very close minded approach. A leads to B, why? because teacher says so. Don't agree? want to voice your opinion? Cannot, you're not "qualified". This is very typical of the chinese social structure. I'm not sure how you can say chinese education promotes literature more than english education, its bloody ingrained in the education. I enjoy the literature discussions english ed people can have, I can pass a book to an english ed friend, and then have a discussion about the theme, the character building, the setting, the possible meanings, etc. I do that with a chinese ed (who can read english), and the discussion is often crappy.

You want more examples? Look into RWI, and notice those people who often post stupid things with broken english? Guess what sort of education they had? Yeap, chinese ed.

It is important for to know the different levels of chinese education and how people group them. For instance, my cousins may have went to a SRJK ©, and a national school after that, they are actually considered english ed due to their upbringing. There are lots of people like that, so you may have confused some english ed people as chinese ed. Its not so much about where they got the education, but the education which influenced their mindset. Some people are 50-50, some people are 70-30, some people are 90-10. This topic focuses on people who are much heavier on either end of the scale.

They're mostly there because its a natural progression from their interests. Not to mention that these fields are considered lucrative by their parents. Engineering has a certain pedigree to it, like being a doctor, accountant, or lawyer. (The typical career paths chinese ed parents push their kids to).

That said, it doesn't mean they do well or that they have the necessary skills or mindset to handle the job. My experience has showed that most of them simply do not have what it takes, even if they managed to pass and get their degree.


As I also mentioned in my posts here.. its not about what type of school you went to, but the kind of overall education you've received. Its a combination of schooling + parental education or any other educational influence.

you guys still don't understand that its not about the schools...

england too powderful

The categories exist, cause its true Not everyone fits the typical stereotype, but the stereotype does exist. It doesn't only apply to girls, the english-ed vs chinese-ed applies to guys as well.

I dunno about other girls la, but I think you're weird enough to be an alien

I was complimenting you!

That's why I like ya

wah a serious post from meru

apa ni, sudah masuk islam ke?

hence why I've been telling you guys its not about where you study, but your overall upbringing and mentality.

your survey got not enough people

what is culture if not a form of education?

why kenot? I enjoy both

you call that english?

hence the english ed. vs chinese ed.
I guess most people "think" they are english ed, but are really more to the chinese ed. spectrum.

This post has been edited by silverhawk: Nov 6 2008, 09:01 PM

If you want to say this, then we might as well say the chinese people are actually african people. All races, regardless of geographic location are somewhat related, so to call the Japanese people, Chinese people, is a display of incredible arrogance and ignorance. They have grown into their own culture and language thousands of years ago.


Teens are immature, regardless of the way they're brought up


Bro, the term banana is very simple. Its a chinese who can't speak chinese. Yellow outside, white inside. You simply cannot escape grouping people, it will always exists whether you like it or not, and even you will do it yourself too. What you can do, is not judge people by the stereotypes. Don't be surprised however when majority of such people fit into their stereotypes


who isn't I can't speak chinese properly, but I know enough words/phrases to mix it with malay and english

you monkey!

I agree that the chinese have their "own world" that they don't really need to socialise outside with other people. This isn't good really, but it does allow them to stay within their comfort zone. The Japanese are like this too, I wonder if its an Asian thing. I noticed that Chinese educated people tend to be less culturally curious, as in they don't really bother knowing and experiencing foreign culture.

and yes, you can't really beat/fault the diligence Chinese ed brings, its quite admirable really. Though most of the time, they work so hard... yet still can't seem to "get it". Their mindset creates very straight-forward values, sometimes completely missing the essence of things. The easiest way to see it is through fashion/sophistication. Something you can't really quantify with values.. but rather with feeling.


I've not qualms being called by my chinese name, actually my IC doesn't even have my English name and even that's only used by family/really close friends. I'm a pure banana too

That said though, its a pain in the ass if you don't have an english name. When you fill up forms, they split it up by first name/last name. With a chinese name, how are you going to fill that up? If you put First name: Phua, Last name: Chu Kang, they'll refer to you as "Mr. Chu Kang", if you do it the proper way, the name is then printed "Chu Kang Phua" which is just weird.

Now what is really hilarious, is chinese ed people adopting english names. They don't know the meaning of the word, and just because it sounds nice, the adopt it into their name. I've heard a girl introduce herself as "kinky"

One of the best names I heard recently... was "Jolin"... doesn't sound too bad ya? Well... its a guy Boy did we have a field day with that one He has since changed his name


I mix with all, though I mix better with english ed people, I really have no problem mixing with Chinese ed at all as friends/romantically. Although chinese ed girls tend to have qualities which I do not want in a girl, not all girls are like that Even english ed girls have undesirable qualities sometimes. Get to know the person, and you will more often than not, be surprised


The difference is quite stark. How they act/express themselves on dates/in-private, how they handle problems etc. English ed girls tend to be more open, talkative, expressive and confrontational and chinese ed girls are the opposite. More closed, quiet and passive-aggressive. Once again, generalisations, but you can observe this really. Go to a mall, just sit down and watch couples passing by, you'll find the english ed looking ones are normally talking or something, but the chinese ed ones tend to be quite and girl usually has a "blank" expression on her face

Oh... and english ed guys tend to be more romantic I mention this earlier about how somethings have to be "felt", most of the chinese ed guys I know just "don't get" romance.