because the majority of the texts used are in Malay, right?
we studied geography, history, science, maths, economics, business studies, physics, add maths etc in Malay.
Our teachers speak in Malay, our assembly, activities, the official language used in the school are all in Malay.
the only english subject was EST, if you like it, and of course, the English subject itself...

and what are you trying to say? lol

well, maybe I was too particular of the word,

but if you insisit to exclude schooling aspect from the term "english ed",
it's really not very clear that how you distinguish a "english ed" from a "chinese ed"
both knows english,
both can speak Manglish,
both can read english books,
it seems that there is no difference.
enlighten me if there is any. 

ah ha! at least someone define the word in a more reasonable manner...
unlike that... kept on talks about point, but never give a point.

yes, your definition is reasonable. but I mean, normally, people don't define the word this way.

maybe i was a little fanatical with the definition of the word...
but when my friend from England saw this thread,
he thought we Malaysians receive formal education in English...
so... it was kinda funny...

anyway, if you guys insist on defining the word in your own unique way...
keep it up, it's just... sheer funny.

sorry if I'd hurt anyone's feelings...

you're an english educated if you think you are one,
you're a beauty if you think you're one.

lol yea i bet you're like..
"oh noe! not again! *facepalms* "

So, anyone can can have his own definitions. But when it comes to a discussion, we have to adhere to a common definition. You understand what I'm trying to say?

I'm an Indian who went through 12 years of Chinese independent education (Chung Hua), now in Nottingham University, Semenyih. And I can confidently say from experience that there is clearly a BIG, if not clear difference between pure-chinese educated and "english" educated chicks.

The most noticeable difference is the mindset. This may sound racist to some, but its true. Most chinese girls I know from high school were very.... innocent and childish? VERY closed-minded, and passively racist (think about that term).

I never hung out with public school kids until uni life, but once I did, I found them much more, ermm... ALIVE! Especially the girls, they're more talkative, more down-to-earth, responsive, and ofcoz, open minded.

You would think that chinese-educated girls would change once they get into uni, but unfortunately, most don't. Most chinese just stick to their own race and well, to put it frankly, live in their own world. Sad....

Anywayz, I'm not being racist, being kinda like an alien for my entire primary and high school life, I see the very apparent difference once joining uni. Its a fact in Malaysian youth nowadays, but it hasn't caused any major problems so far, so I guess there's nothing to be alarmed about.

Sorry for the word tsunami, if you reached this point, then thank you for giving a crap what i think... lol.. PEACE!

anyway put it this way, if you are looking at it a POV of race rather than the education system, then u should be alarmed to know that no matter which region of the world you are in (with the exception of war-torn and politically unstable countries), you'll find the chinese assimilating with the locals with much ease... tell me where in the world, you wont be able to find a chinatown or small chinese community? not many places.

Based on this statement alone you can very much deduce that its the education system and racial stereotypes in our community that cause this barrier rather than anything else.
but if you cant, what can i say. stupid is is as stupid does

what can i say. stupid is is as stupid does

Stupid isn't it? Being a 19-year old guy I wouldn't know too much about it as I have only explored the tip of the iceberg of life. What do the LYN-er's think of the way I think? Too "deep" for these people? I'd like some insight on it.

im  malay and my view was...chinese ed more friendly to us compare to english ed.from my experience..hehe..

english edc are more lan- c casue they look down chinese edc guy cos we speak eng not frequently as them hate them

wat perception ??? dunno pls dun pretend u noe ... okie this wat i experience before

I like your style. Can youse being my fwen?

will you change yours to silverhawker? heheheh

grow up man talk like child

You're implying that it applies to Malaysian Chinese ed girls too?

Actually i agree that they shud be categorized as chinese ed and english ed cuz it's based on what language they normally use when they're communicating, not wat language they used when they study science or math.

English ed ppl are more open-minded mostly because the multimedia they're exposed to. e.g. there's no chinese-equivalent series such as How I Met Your Mother, rite? The awesomeness of Barney

And english ed ppl tend to be more confident. That's from my observation.

Yes agree.

But I do know there are many outstanding guys or gals who gradaute from Independent High Schools (Private Chinese Secondary Schools) appear to be confident and smart, too.

my friend brought up in a chinese background, but his friends are all english spoken people.

So how are you going to categorise him?

He claims himself as english ed people.

If one can be categorised as how he thinks, then this thread serves no purpose already

i find that the difference become quite apparent when it comes to sense of humour. anyone else find this true?