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 A skinny ba$tard's log, Unilateral 5x5 to 5x10

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4Rings
post Jun 9 2008, 07:52 PM

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Actually I don't feel pump training my lats. But they grew faster than my chest which I felt good pump and sore.
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post Jun 10 2008, 09:14 AM

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That's sorta good thing right? I felt the pump a few times and it was rather painful. Hated it.
Btw do you mean you don't feel a stretch on your lats and back at all when you're training them?


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post Jun 10 2008, 02:59 PM

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I do but I can't get the pump and soreness like the chest.
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post Jun 10 2008, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(4Rings @ Jun 10 2008, 02:59 PM)
I do but I can't get the pump and soreness like the chest.
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weird. i'm totally opposite of you. i cant get the pump on my chest.. but i get serious pump on my lats after some heavy duty rows.. haha
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post Jun 10 2008, 04:30 PM

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Maybe we could exchange those body parts when we workout the next time.
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post Jun 10 2008, 06:09 PM

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I can't get a pump in most of those exercises in Stronglift-5x5 pun. Nada... i just feel tired overall. Only dips and pull ups has the best pump. The pump is so ridiculous after dips, it feels as if my chest wants to go kaboom.

Hypothesis:
I have more slow twitch muscles, 5x5 is too little reps.

Perbincangan:
-No pump when doing 5x5 (which targets fast twitch muscles?).
-Feel pumped when doing dips & pull ups which is in the range of 6-13 reps (slow twitch muscles working?).
-No soreness during lifting. No DOMS after training sessions. --> muscles (which are mostly slow twitch) are not put under enough stress+work.

Kesimpulan: Tak tau. Aku sememangnya n00b lagi. Unable to confirm hypothesis based on my current knowledge.

Cadangan: Cuba 3x10... tengok ada pump ke tak.

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post Jun 10 2008, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(iamyuanwu @ Jun 10 2008, 06:09 PM)
I can't get a pump in most of those exercises in Stronglift-5x5 pun. Nada... i just feel tired overall. Only dips and pull ups has the best pump. The pump is so ridiculous after dips, it feels as if my chest wants to go kaboom.

Hypothesis:
I have more slow twitch muscles, 5x5 is too little reps.

Perbincangan:
-No pump when doing 5x5 (which targets fast twitch muscles?).
-Feel pumped when doing dips & pull ups which is in the range of 6-13 reps (slow twitch muscles working?).
-No soreness during lifting. No DOMS after training sessions. --> muscles (which are mostly slow twitch) are not put under enough stress+work.

Kesimpulan: Tak tau. Aku sememangnya n00b lagi. Unable to confirm hypothesis based on my current knowledge.

Cadangan: Cuba 3x10... tengok ada pump ke tak.

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You won't get pump doing low reps. As a newbie, you should be doing 12 - 8 reps range.
If you are doing it correctly in strict form, you should get the pump.


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post Jun 11 2008, 11:47 AM

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Bahagian B
Instead of 5x5, did 3x10 partly to save time, partly to try out if higher reps can give better pump. Should I abandon 5x5 and use 3x10?
Observation:
Maybe just a wee bit more of pump. I really can't tell.

Squats
44.5kg x 3 x 10

Overhead press
bar x 10
22kg x 10
22kg x 10

Deadlift
59kg x 10
63.5kg x 5

Pull up
9 6 3

Dips
12

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post Jun 11 2008, 06:21 PM

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3x10. work the weights up. dont stay on one weight. unless u r training for strength. ramp your weights up. light to heavy
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post Jun 11 2008, 07:31 PM

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Jones...
You mean increasing the weights every set until I reach the working set, then only I start to do 3x10?

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Tried Simplefit.org level3 - home exercise during off days.
Monday: 2 pull ups --> 3 push ups --> 5 squats --> repeat until 20min is up.
Total sets = 16

Wednesday - 5 rounds for time (rest time not counted)
3 pull ups --> 10 push ups --> 16 squats --> 3min rest --> x5
= 7.50 minutes

Am I working out too much?
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post Jun 11 2008, 08:17 PM

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You shouldn't be counting reps. Just pump to the max.
If you dun push hard your muscles can't grow.
Muscles need to be forced to grow.
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post Jun 12 2008, 02:12 PM

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Ei, Yuan Wu, you got give yourself rest weeks or not?
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post Jun 12 2008, 03:04 PM

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Got. 1 month ago... kena flu. Rested for 2 weeks. Now I don't care. Kau lat training until Aug.

Rest day pun aku buat push ups and pull ups.
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post Jun 12 2008, 03:31 PM

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2 months more to go only. All the best! Take more whey/mass gainer if pocket allows.
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post Jun 12 2008, 09:43 PM

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After looking at snecx's tubs of protein... I realised why I'm not gaining weight.

I'm not eating enough. No wonder. Previously, it was easy to gain 1kg every 2-3 weeks, I was eating like a mad man. For the past 1 month... there's no weight gain at all. Gotta up my food intake.
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Hah hah! Kena tegur from PT liao. This guy saw me squating with the make shift rack. After I'm done with the squats, he came and politely asked me if I can pull back the barbell racks together after I'm done with it. Of course I can... but actually I don't think I will. I'm going to use it everytime I go there, there's no point for me to move it back. In any case, it's not obstructing anything or anyone at all. No power/squat rack pun berani kacau me some more. Haih...

Today, Bahagian (A) (3x10 instead of 5x5)

observation:
- Bench press: Unable to balance the bar properly, my shoulder blades are moving all over the place - the bench macam too narrow to allow my back to rest on it. By 3rd set baru dapat balance the bar properly. I hate that fix height hook. My hands is just too darn short to get it off.
- Pendlay row: Can feel the middle back getting more work, but no feel on the lats.
- Did half a Tabata interval on the rowing machine to see what the hype is it about. I guess half is not enough.

Squat
45kg x 3 x 10; 90s rest

Bench press
32.5 x 2 x 10; 90s rest
35 x 2 x 10; 90s rest

Pendlay row
30 x 3 x 10; 90s rest

Dips
16
9
7

Abs machine
55 x 8
50 x 10
50 x 8

Concept 2 rowing
Tried a ciplak half Tabata interval for 2 minutes only.

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post Jun 14 2008, 01:00 AM

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Leong PM'd me this. I thought I'd put it up here for everyone:
Thanks, Leong.

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I found this article. Hope it is useful to you.

The 8 Anabolic Workout Plan Commandments

1. Thou shalt workout each body part once a week
2. Thou shalt workout 5 times a week (pick the days that suit you)
3. Thine workouts shall never last more than 45 minutes
4. Thou shalt stay within the optimum muscle-building rep range of 8-12
5. Thou shalt lift for 1-2 seconds and lower for 2 seconds per rep
6. Thou shalt seek Progressive Overload every week (you need to keep written logs of your workout progress!)
7. Thou shalt take 1.5 to 2 minutes rest between sets
8. Thou shalt perform at least 6 sets, and at most 9 sets for each muscle group

You can choose the days you would like to workout on; I like Monday to Friday with a break at the weekend. You can also vary the muscle groups to combine on any given day. For example, at the moment I like to work my chest and triceps on the same day but you can choose to hit your abs and chest on the same day instead.

However, you must prioritize your workouts like this:

- On days when you are working out 2 body parts, work the body part you would like most growth in first. This is because the second body part will have become slightly fatigued and will not perform to its full potential.

- Give priority body parts a day of their own. So, if your chest is lagging, work it separately on a day of its own. Either this or, at least, work them first before a body part you consider less important at this time.

- On single body-part days, do the full nine sets

- Always do one warm-up set before each body part. Your warm-up set should be 50% of the weight that you will use for your first real set; perform 12-15 reps and rest for 1.5 to 2 minutes before the first set.


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post Jun 14 2008, 01:38 AM

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Some tasty food for my reference:
QUOTE(kege @ Jun 13 2008, 03:03 PM)
haha.. actually you can make your own mass gainer. no need to spend money on so much supplements. i only have whey at home. to make a real good tasting mass gainer shake, try blending:

500ml water
1-2 servings whey (depending on your size)
2 raw eggs
2-4 tbs of peanut butter
+flavoring of choice (but usually the whey will provide enough flavor)

abt 35-50g protein, 15-30g fat

take one between lunch and dinner, and another before bed time.

definitely gonna make u super full. might want to take it in 2 portions. i have gained a lot of muscle with this shake. but i'm getting bored of the taste already  laugh.gif
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Tried it just now, with some modifications:
1 tbs oats
1 teaspoon 5-grain powder (taste absolutely weird, but i know it's good stuff because my mom bought it.)
1 scoop ON Whey choc
1 egg (boiled a bit)
1 tbs peanut butter
a bit of milk.

Thankfully not puke inducing!
Next time, i'll add natural flavoured yogurt. Sure super tasty and canggih one! And the best thing about yogurt... it reduces the puking/nauseous effect.

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post Jun 16 2008, 03:45 PM

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got no new progress pic@@?
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post Jun 18 2008, 07:33 PM

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There's this niggling ache at the very low back near ass. It only aches a bit when I bend over hard. Taking a half week off from heavy lifting and see if the soreness & aches at the lower back will improve.
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simplefit.org Level 4 day 3 = 7.15 min
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Anyone here does clean & jerk and snatches in fitness centres like Fitness First, California Fitness, etc...
C&J and snatch sounds like very interesting. I tried a superbly-cacat-form of hang clean & press --- Woah! Feels like kena trashed! Huffing and puffing -- nice!

Who know how to C&J and snatch?
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raindrops...
Will post picture tonight.
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post Jun 18 2008, 08:17 PM

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im waiting^^
U and spenx are my role model, cause we are same category!^^

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