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Sony-Ericsson All new G900 and G700 from SonyEricsson, G for giraffe? 'G' is the new 'N'-series

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deathclaw
post Jun 16 2008, 10:55 AM

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After searching for quite some time, finally got the chance to see and touch the actual G900 phone in lowyat last Saturday. Nice phone and the d-pad and other buttons are easily accessible. Quoted price for the AP set was RM1,760 but managed to negotiate to RM1,5xx. Didn't get it yet because I'm still waiting for the ori set to be released and to do a price comparison first.


Added on June 16, 2008, 11:05 am
QUOTE(amdx @ Jun 15 2008, 08:55 PM)

a little drawback on this device, it only support WIFI B... come on SE... my nokia e51 support b/g...
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I'm surprised that only wifi b is supported. It is stated in gsmarena that it is wifi b/g. Unfortunately, I can't find any wifi specs in the official se website. Anybody can help to confirm?

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post Jun 16 2008, 11:13 AM

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QUOTE(deathclaw @ Jun 16 2008, 10:55 AM)
After searching for quite some time, finally got the chance to see and touch the actual G900 phone in lowyat last Saturday. Nice phone and the d-pad and other buttons are easily accessible. Quoted price for the AP set was RM1,760 but managed to negotiate to RM1,5xx. Didn't get it yet because I'm still waiting for the ori set to be released and to do a price comparison first.


Added on June 16, 2008, 11:05 am

I'm surprised that only wifi b is supported. It is stated in gsmarena that it is wifi b/g. Unfortunately, I can't find any wifi specs in the official se website. Anybody can help to confirm?
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doh.gif LYN http://forum.lowyat.net/HandphonesandRelatedAccessories pricing less than Rm 1.5k, AP.


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post Jun 16 2008, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(deathclaw @ Jun 16 2008, 10:55 AM)
After searching for quite some time, finally got the chance to see and touch the actual G900 phone in lowyat last Saturday. Nice phone and the d-pad and other buttons are easily accessible. Quoted price for the AP set was RM1,760 but managed to negotiate to RM1,5xx. Didn't get it yet because I'm still waiting for the ori set to be released and to do a price comparison first.


Added on June 16, 2008, 11:05 am

I'm surprised that only wifi b is supported. It is stated in gsmarena that it is wifi b/g. Unfortunately, I can't find any wifi specs in the official se website. Anybody can help to confirm?
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I already got my set last weekend. Got it at RM1480 (AP set) and the sales package is quite comprehensive. It includes a original SE bluetooth handsfree receiver. Be cautious that some traders remove this item from the sales package in order to give you a more competitive price. Manage to get screen protector and carrying case (3rd party) also. Although this is my first UIQ symbian phone, it is a joy to use. The D-pad makes it more intuitive than previous UIQ phones relying main only touch and jog dial.

It only supports WIFI B (as indicated at the box) and it does not have HSPDA/3.5G. Only the regular 3G speeds. But that is not important because I rely much on the WIFI capability. Get this G900 (be it AP or original) because it is really different. My first impression was that UIQ phones are laggy as indicated by many online sources. But after viewing youtube videos of this G900, its the other way round. Its smooth and speedy especially if you turn off transitions. The UI is very nice too!
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post Jun 16 2008, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(davidmak @ Jun 16 2008, 11:28 AM)
I already got my set last weekend. Got it at RM1480 (AP set) and the sales package is quite comprehensive. It includes a original SE bluetooth handsfree receiver. Be cautious that some traders remove this item from the sales package in order to give you a more competitive price. Manage to get screen protector and carrying case (3rd party) also. Although this is my first UIQ symbian phone, it is a joy to use. The D-pad makes it more intuitive than previous UIQ phones relying main only touch and jog dial. 

It only supports WIFI B (as indicated at the box) and it does not have HSPDA/3.5G. Only the regular 3G speeds. But that is not important because I rely much on the WIFI capability. Get this G900 (be it AP or original) because it is really different. My first impression was that UIQ phones are laggy as indicated by many online sources. But after viewing youtube videos of this G900, its the other way round. Its smooth and speedy especially if you turn off transitions. The UI is very nice too!
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hmm..RM1480 with SE Bluetooth Hnadsfree sounds really worth it. mind to share with us where u got it? smile.gif
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post Jun 16 2008, 03:47 PM

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hmm... the G700 ( i dont really need Wifi) sounds tempting to own, but the p1i is about the same price right?

any suggestion?
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post Jun 16 2008, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(teikwing @ Jun 16 2008, 03:43 PM)
hmm..RM1480 with SE Bluetooth Hnadsfree sounds really worth it. mind to share with us where u got it?  smile.gif
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QUOTE(seaotter @ Jun 16 2008, 03:47 PM)
hmm... the G700 ( i dont really need Wifi) sounds tempting to own, but the p1i is about the same price right?

any suggestion?
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Well, P1i is a good phone. But I heard a lot of about the lagging UI. But I guess its a good trade-off when compared with G700. I'll pick P1i in this situation.
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post Jun 16 2008, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(davidmak @ Jun 16 2008, 05:24 PM)
Lowyat 1st Floor "Gadget something" tongue.gif
Well, P1i is a good phone. But I heard a lot of about the lagging UI. But I guess its a good trade-off when compared with G700. I'll pick P1i in this situation.
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hows the camera between the G700 and the p1?
the pricing?
how's the keypads between them?
i did say wifi is not important for me - featurewise is important.
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post Jun 16 2008, 05:54 PM

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Wow, I thought the G900 has wifi b/g. It says so on the whitepaper before.
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post Jun 16 2008, 06:19 PM

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seaotter,
P1i perform snappier than G900 IHMO. i used p1i before i switched to e51... P1i is little snappy device.
P1i with qwerty bi-directional keypad.. which i like it very much. G700.. just normal keypad... with much shorter stylus.
accessories bundled, p1i beats G700 and G900. the cradle stand itself already worth the price you paid.


G-Izzat,
G900 and P1i... same WLAN card... just B.. no G.

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QUOTE(G-Izzat @ Jun 16 2008, 05:54 PM)
Wow, I thought the G900 has wifi b/g. It says so on the whitepaper before.
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ya..i oso noticed b4 in white paper include wifi g...emm, perhaps last call they remove it in order to reduce cost sweat.gif
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post Jun 16 2008, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(amdx @ Jun 16 2008, 06:19 PM)
seaotter,
P1i perform snappier than G900 IHMO. i used p1i before i switched to e51... P1i is little snappy device.
P1i with qwerty bi-directional keypad.. which i like it very much. G700.. just normal keypad... with much shorter stylus.
accessories bundled, p1i beats G700 and G900. the cradle stand itself already worth the price you paid.
G-Izzat,
G900 and P1i... same WLAN card... just B.. no G.
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what's the difference between B and G? unsure.gif
we can still use this G900 to online in hotspots areas rite?
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QUOTE(cyew86 @ Jun 16 2008, 06:50 PM)
what's the difference between B and G? unsure.gif
we can still use this G900 to online in hotspots areas rite?
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i think B is for WiFi with slower speeds. G is faster. most hotspots operates on both B & G but some operates on G only. so P1i & G900 can't connect to those.
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what....
only support wifi b? doh.gif
y many info is saying b/g
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post Jun 16 2008, 08:12 PM

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post Jun 17 2008, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(seaotter @ Jun 16 2008, 05:39 PM)
hows the camera between the G700 and the p1?
the pricing?
how's the keypads between them?
i did say wifi is not important for me - featurewise is important.
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Well, I don't own both the G700 and P1i so I am not in a position to tell. But I did demoed the P1i before at one of Sony Ericsson's stores. Initially the P1i is sluggish but once all the applications have been loaded in the memory (they don't really close the application when you exit, just minimized), its pretty smooth and snappy.

The same applies for G900 but I am quite sure that the applications and the OS has been optimized for G900 for faster operation. If you would read around Esato, many indicated the following possibility:

1. Slightly revamped application processor and OS optimization to use the 2D/3D hardware accelerator by PowerVM.

or/both

2. Heavily optimized UIQ3 Symbian 9.1.

I am inclined to support both because the OS has optimization for thumb/finger operation. You can use your finger throughout the whole UI. Also the transitions are smoother, etc.

QUOTE(cyew86 @ Jun 16 2008, 06:50 PM)
what's the difference between B and G? unsure.gif
we can still use this G900 to online in hotspots areas rite?
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B and G is the shortname from the WLAN/WIFI standards derived from 802.11b and 802.11g. In short, WiFi B allows speeds up to 11Mbps while WiFi G allows speed up to 54Mbps with better coverage due to better radio modulation. WiFi B usually supports 128bit WEP while WiFi G allows better security using WPA, etc.

In my opinion b or g, it is not important. The reason is because I don't see using security encryption sensible on a portable device with limited processing power and battery power. Also download speeds depends on the telco connection to the WiFi base station. If it is running on a 2Mbps ADSL/DSL/cable connection, do you think it'll flood your 11Mbps WiFi b? Do you honestly think with your UIQ 208MHz and its baseband processor able to sustain a continuous data streaming of 11/54Mbps up and down the link?

As long as there's WLAN capability that allow me to do some simple IM, browsing and downloading, I'm satisfied. rclxms.gif

QUOTE(iRonTech @ Jun 16 2008, 08:12 PM)
probably for power consume saving purpose smile.gif
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Its probably a hardware limitation because it reuses a lot of the P1i/W950 hardware platform. Or it could be not supported by the current firmware. A lot of sources in the internet support the fact that G900 is using a slightly different hardware platform. So... just take it as a pinch of salt. whistling.gif
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okay, i'm letting go mine. my loss is your gain.
getting the nokia e71 smile.gif

visit here: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/721819

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QUOTE(amdx @ Jun 18 2008, 01:08 AM)
okay, i'm letting go mine. my loss is your gain.
getting the nokia e71 smile.gif

visit here: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/721819
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so fast want to sell? sweat.gif
any problem with it or any personal review on it, care to share? blush.gif
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QUOTE(amdx @ Jun 18 2008, 01:08 AM)
okay, i'm letting go mine. my loss is your gain.
getting the nokia e71 smile.gif

visit here: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/721819
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sweat.gif so rich ya bro.. QWERTY phone better for your usage?
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post Jun 18 2008, 09:08 AM

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JuNz-V & iRonTech,

yep.. i switch over from e61i to E51.. and now G900.. still prefer QWERTY in s60. smile.gif

i will do a review tonight for this G900.. if time permits.
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QUOTE(amdx @ Jun 18 2008, 09:08 AM)
JuNz-V & iRonTech,

yep.. i switch over from e61i to E51.. and now G900.. still prefer QWERTY in s60. smile.gif

i will do a review tonight for this G900.. if time permits.
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Wow..so sayang to let it go so fast... sad.gif

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