No more 3.8 la

1 U.S. dollar = 3.22360192 Malaysian ringgits

Our Ringgit has gained a lot of ground since the US instability and the unpegging of the ringgit.

LOL yeah...what he says so 44.95US is RM144.69 using 3.2189 rate...

Ok,after looking around,Sins is not similar to usual RTS at all.

Is it similar to the long lost Settlers?There never been a good sequel to that game.

To a certain degree yes...But but saying Sins is like the Settlers is an understatement.

So,Sins have much depth compare to Settlers,is it?

Im planning to get it in Aus's EB Games when the game release in Aus,unless someone in Malaysia starts to sell it.

wat is that???

Yes...settler while was more like a city building/civilisation building game...was simpler than many other game of the genre...and ofcourse it was real time...but it didn't mean it was like Red Alert..

Actually US dollar has depreciated since last year.

Its supposed to be RM3.3 instead of RM3.8 , but if you use credit card they'll still charge you at RM3.8 .

Cheers

Really? That sounds like a scam to me! Here's the deal...foreign cc transaction = 2% extra charge at most(depending on the bank)bank will use its US dolar rate for the day the conversion was made and not 3.8(which was way back a couple of years ago)...

wat bank will tat be?
i'm sure to avoid it since it's using such a high rate

using molfreedom from eonbank, it's charging as stated by frags

kianweic, u sure bout ur facts or just simply crap out?pls check ur facts before crapping, or at least provide the name of the bank. as i posted in hardware Q & A, if u dunno what u are talking bout, just shut up.

My god, how come people are so rude these days. No wonder, our crime is going through the roof.

Well that guy did say his credit card was charging something of similar to that rate when he bought sins of solar empire.

I am still waiting for a retail stores to sell this game. It's nice to support a game where the developers really values its customers plus doesn't require a monster rig to play.

Apologies...but he was not sure of the conversion rate and was assuming it was 3.8. He was wrong of course and has realised it. You misunderstood his post me thinks...I hope its cleared now Your post could have confused a lot of people that dont know better. Anyway can you edit your post and say its not true?

Actually don't worry about it (for everyone), I won't it's just a forum to post ideas and thoughts.

If the internet forum was 85% true it would be like CNN or Fox (heck, I don't even think most of their news are true to the core)

Fact is that this game warrants my RM150 to RM200. And the views from developers in regards to graphics I totally agree so I am refraining myself from testing other than the demo provided.

*PS Check out C&C RA3 thread, people are coming out with very good units ideas for RA3 (of coz, to what extent this is true, EA only knows). I find it entertaining and worthy of discuss.

Cheers

Good for you...I feel the same way too...BUT

Fact : This game(download only) wont set you back more than RM150...for now at least.

If you have any suggestion for the games update then post them...we would like to hear it. Many here are still playing the game and will probably come up with suggestion later when we had a couple of long game time with this. Personally i would like Iron Clad to improve ICO and solved the framerate drop issue for some people.

it's not like i purposely want to be rude to ya, but i strongly believe ppl here a social obligation to check ur facts before posting.

reread ur own statement, even competent english reader will interpret it as u are saying bank charges RM3.8 for 1USD

comparing CNN/Fox is not a viable excuse, as it's like saying if they can be wrong, so u can also be wrong. So using ur line of reasoning, it's like saying if ppl can go kill, rape, plunder, any1 can go do it also izzit cos there's other ppl doing it.

bear in mind this is not a personal attack on you, just a strong encouragement to at least double check at u are posting, as perhaps Abu.Umar might not have known the exchange rate when he posted.

This post has been edited by alwizbthere: Feb 23 2008, 02:41 PM

Ironclad Games and Sins of a Solar Empire: Part One :
http://platformers.net/index.php?option=co...id=673&Itemid=1

Interesting bits:

What can you tell me about the future direction of Sins of a Solar Empire?

Blair: Expansion - I mean we were even prepping for this since prior to launch. There's been so much great feedback from the forums - both our own and from Stardock. We just couldn't do it all for Sins. We had a list of cool things, but some of it just didn't make it in. Some of the upcoming material will be free content and some of it will go to the expansion.




Digital Distribution, you chose Stardock, what's the best thing about working with them.

Craig: Well, they're great. I mean, where do we even start?

Blair: GalCivII, they're the games we love to play. Their CEO, Brad, he's right in there in the trenches, just like our team. He plays the game - he's played the heck out of Sins and he's given us a ton of balance feedback. They've got their team playing it, they make these games and that makes them a good fit in that regard. Our philosophies match up with theirs as well, like, the policies...

Craig: DRM

Blair: No digital rights management. No CD-Keys. When you pop the disc in, you play, you don't have to fuss with anything. All of these things made it a perfect fit.

Steven: We've been really fortunate working with Stardock - they gave us a lot of creative freedom as we carried Sins forward. They gave us a lot of feedback, but the final call has always been in our court - and that's a luxury that a lot of studios, especially one just starting out, simply don't have.

Blair: It's virtually unheard of. Another interesting thing is that while they got involved in the development, we got involved in the marketing - something else that's also unheard of. There was this publisher-developer cross relationship.

Craig: Usually after the game is done, it's in the publishers hands. I think what this has done is bring a bit of truth to the advertising and marketing image that's directly tied to the game.



It's been difficult to get a copy of the game here in Canada, which brings me to the issue of piracy. You've mentioned that you're not interested in executing a policy of DRM and that you trust your users. The game, however, was available by pirated means on launch dates. I've never seen this before now - but users of these sites are actually appealing to people download the game to actually purchase the game.

Blair: We've seen it, we were following it. People torrent it, they play it and they buy it - and we receive emails from people in some of the worst spots for piracy in the world saying that they've payed the equivalent of $165 to get the game. I think people have come to the conclusion that the game is worth supporting. We're both small companies - Stardock and Ironclad. We're supporting a no DRM policy, we've put out a quality product, it's relatively stable, it works out of the box, it's great fun... I mean, if you don't support it then there's no hope for the industry.

Craig: It's interesting - when you listen to people they say "we're not criminals, it's the big corporations putting out shoddy product who are criminals." That doesn't justify software piracy, but they do have a point to a certain degree. Stardock in particular has earned a lot of respect from users who might, in other cases, pirate a game but because of the quality of the product and the policies behind it choose to buy the game. They don't treat their customers like criminals.

Steven: I get the sense from some of the feedback that we've received that some purchasing decisions have hinged on our choice not to use DRM. That was a deciding factor in their ultimate decision to buy it. We may lose some sales to piracy, but I think our very fair stand on DRM and an end users right to a secure, hassle free experience has brought in as many new customers as those who have chosen to pirate it.

Craig: We've received emails from people who have said "I don't know much about your game, but I'm buying it because I like your policy on DRM"

Blair: There are people out there who are so anti-DRM that they're purchasing our game based on supporting the principle. It makes me feel proud that we're able to move in that direction.



On the note of trying the game out and sharing the experience with friends... the question on everyone's mind is "is there a demo coming?"

Craig: Ah yes, the demo.. It's coming!

Blair: The primary reason is that there's not a demo is that demos take time. Our feeling was that we wanted the product going out online and in the stores to be a polished and as accurate as possible. If were were going to take a month and do a demo before release, you'd lose a month of polish. So, the way we see it is that we'll do it a month after release and it'll more accurately reflect what you're buying. There's no scheme to trick anyone or to deny them access to a demo.

Steven: That one month of extra polish is huge in terms of extra polish time. Sins has been refined a great deal over the last six months, but to get that one additional month of polish at the end really raised the quality of the game.

Blair: You've got all the pieces locked in - so there's no change, you can only perfect what you've got.



EDIT : Correction to what one of the guys said...there is a CD Key actually but its just used to register your product to stardock central(so you can download your game for digital download), which will give you access to new updates and the online lobby.

This post has been edited by frags: Feb 23 2008, 03:25 PM

@ frag

Would you advise me what is the content of your purchase of this game?

For example: A box, manual, DVD itself, soundtrack and so fort

If you purchased online, are you entitled to burn the game for your own back up?

Thanks in advance.

@ alwizbthere
It's alright, everybody make mistakes once in awhile.

I'll try to quote the previous the next time.

Cheers

Okay here's the thing. The digital distribution version is the collectors edition. There are two downloadable options:

1)US$44.95 = Digital Download Only!, You get the Sins Bonuspack(extra maps), Collectors edition music, Collectors edition artwork, hotkey card pdf, Tech tree pdf, MyColors Sins Of A Solar Empire desktop theme. Thats all nothing else...all the extras you get as a download option...


2)US$49.95 + Shipping Charges = Digital Download plus Retail box of the collectors edition shippped to you.
* a foldout tech-tree poster
* artwork posters
* a hotkey card
* a music CD


The standard edition which is available for retail in the states right now is just US$39.95...

Yes you can back up your download...Make sure you check the download to archive option on SDC.

This post has been edited by frags: Feb 23 2008, 05:50 PM

Thing the best way to describe Sins is Master of Orion + Homeworld

Indeed, I'm playing this game now. It is truely enjoyable, everything takes a nice pace which isn't too slow. It forces you to think about things from an epic scale and perspectives never before seen in other games.

For example, I was playing a game against the computer and manage to gain the upper hand by always having the bounty on his head higher and thus leaving the pirates to do the dirty work. But eventually the pirates grew rich and powerful, funded by my empire. When they blocked an important route for me I had no choice but to attack them, obliterating my fleet. My opponents took this advantage to attack my outer planets ring planets and my downfall soon followed. Yes I lost, but this is something I never experienced before!

I got the game from a torrent download. Of course it is illegal, but I couldn't stand waiting and plan to get it if and when it is released at the local store. Please support Stardock! Small developers can make good games!