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runemastertan
post Apr 17 2008, 10:13 PM

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To those owners of Sony W series 40W400A. Please I need to verify something. There is this hype about 100Hz Panel. I read up of the post in this thread about Philips not having 100Hz and it's jerking when there is a fast action scene. Does this happen to 40W400A? Has anyone tested it yet, especially with fast moving anime. Please tell me your opinion, as I'm leaning towards Sony as well.

I can see that Sony W series is better than Sharp A63M in PQ wise. I got quote of Rm7000, and they are giving me 1 HDMI cable and 1 BRAVIA bag.
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post Apr 17 2008, 11:10 PM

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I dunno about 100Hz panels but I thought what's important is the panel's ability to support 24p and the W400 does support it.

U might wanna read the review on a 100Hz display (a kick a$$ one too)
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/Samsung-LE40F86BD/

Here's a quote from the review
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I've droned on and on, so let's get the crux of the matter out of the way: there is probably no condition under which I would voluntarily engage [100Hz Motion Plus] on the LE40F86BD to enhance my viewing pleasure. For film material, I find that it wreaks havoc on the very fabric that gives 24p movies their surreal dreamlike temporal quality. Call me nostalgic, but I prefer my movies to look filmic/ cinematic, not as if they were shot using a cheap £150 handheld camcorder, which is what [100Hz Motion Plus] does as it mutates 24p to hyper-real 50/ 60 fps "news mode".


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post Apr 18 2008, 01:35 AM

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W series doesn't have 100Hz, the D and X series have and Sony 100Hz is not a hype...I own the D series and I can see the difference...D series also have 1080/24p true cinema...

Here's a review on Sony 32" D series http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/Sony-KDL32D3000/
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post Apr 18 2008, 11:14 AM

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Panasonic Viera TX-37LX75MK for RM3350.(display set for 2 month) normal price RM 3649 (ewarehouse) .Got offer from a friend who works in electronic store.dont know is a old model or new.Is it a good price/buy guys?
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post Apr 18 2008, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(riph @ Apr 18 2008, 11:14 AM)
Panasonic Viera TX-37LX75MK for RM3350.(display set for 2 month) normal price RM 3649 (ewarehouse) .Got offer from a friend who works in electronic store.dont know is a old model or new.Is it a good price/buy guys?
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Hi bro,
I believe this gonna be an old model.
I saw TX-37LZ800MK in pc fair which gonna be lauched in M'sia soon.
It's full HD and with 24p. I couldnt' find the info of it on the web.
Do you have 'jalan' to get to this 'baby'?
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post Apr 18 2008, 12:00 PM

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How much expected to this TX-37LZ800MK model?. now im unsure to buy..
got this offer from my friend..he just offer for me only..sorry

BTW didnt find this model on web? typo error? blink.gif

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runemastertan
post Apr 18 2008, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(welwitchia @ Apr 17 2008, 11:10 PM)
I dunno about 100Hz panels but I thought what's important is the panel's ability to support 24p and the W400 does support it.

U might wanna read the review on a 100Hz display (a kick a$$ one too)
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/Samsung-LE40F86BD/

Here's a quote from the review
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Does this mean that the 100Hz make the movie worse for 24p?
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post Apr 18 2008, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(runemastertan @ Apr 18 2008, 05:16 PM)
Does this mean that the 100Hz make the movie worse for 24p?
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nope for Sony 100Hz... thumbup.gif
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post Apr 18 2008, 07:58 PM

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is Sony W series 40W400A availabe in penang????plan to get it soon to replace my Dell LCD 3007WFP....

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post Apr 18 2008, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(riph @ Apr 18 2008, 12:00 PM)
How much expected to this TX-37LZ800MK model?. now im unsure to buy..
got this offer from my friend..he just offer for me only..sorry

BTW didnt find this model on web? typo error? blink.gif
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Bro,
It's not typo error. I couldn't find the info on web as well.
But it's in PC fair. It was stated as an upcoming model.
Specs wise, it's pretty decent.
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post Apr 18 2008, 10:57 PM

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I really don't know enough to answer that.. Sorry, u'll have to do a bit of googling for that. biggrin.gif
QUOTE(runemastertan @ Apr 18 2008, 05:16 PM)
Does this mean that the 100Hz make the movie worse for 24p?
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post Apr 19 2008, 03:02 AM

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It;s there in Sony Malaysia's website. There aren;t any review for this model yet on the internet from CNET Asia or review sites, so that is why you got a hard time looking for it in the website.


Added on April 19, 2008, 3:05 am
QUOTE(tot31 @ Apr 18 2008, 06:30 PM)
nope for Sony 100Hz... thumbup.gif
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But your answer does not apply to Sony 40W400A, right? SInce the panel is not 100Hz....

And it seems that Sony is introducing new models for LCD TV, and for W series, the W4100, there is 4 HDMI and MotionPlus feature with 100Hz. I saw it in AVSForums.

If anyone wants the link I'll attach it

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post Apr 19 2008, 08:25 AM

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QUOTE(runemastertan @ Apr 19 2008, 03:02 AM)
It;s there in Sony Malaysia's website. There aren;t any review for this model yet on the internet from CNET Asia or review sites, so that is why you got a hard time looking for it in the website.


Added on April 19, 2008, 3:05 am
But your answer does not apply to Sony 40W400A, right? SInce the panel is not 100Hz....

And it seems that Sony is introducing new models for LCD TV, and for W series, the W4100, there is 4 HDMI and MotionPlus feature with 100Hz. I saw it in AVSForums.

If anyone wants the link I'll attach it
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W4100 is a US model and US models always have better features than Asia models. W400A for Asia W4000 for UK/Europe. W400A doesn't have 100Hz. I've gave you the link to Sony 32D3000 review which is the same with 32D300A where the D series has 100Hz feature. Sony has implemented very well the 100Hz technology compared to other manufacturers.
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QUOTE(runemastertan @ Apr 17 2008, 10:13 PM)
To those owners of Sony W series 40W400A. Please I need to verify something. There is this hype about 100Hz Panel. I read up of the post in this thread about Philips not having 100Hz and it's jerking when there is a fast action scene. Does this happen to 40W400A? Has anyone tested it yet, especially with fast moving anime. Please tell me your opinion, as I'm leaning towards Sony as well.

I can see that Sony W series is better than Sharp A63M in PQ wise. I got quote of Rm7000, and they are giving me 1 HDMI cable and 1 BRAVIA bag.
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I would choose LC42A63M over 40W400A.
Spec wise LC42A63M is better and more value for $$$.
LC42A63M is RM6,499.


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post Apr 19 2008, 01:24 PM

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^ The contrast ratio (dynamic) is not as high as the Sony.. so saying it has better spec is not true.
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post Apr 20 2008, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Apr 19 2008, 11:57 AM)
I would choose LC42A63M over 40W400A.
Spec wise LC42A63M is better and more value for $$$.
LC42A63M is RM6,499.
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I would agree that sharp have "value for money" element than Sony. But then i think for most people, PQ are more important. And i do notice that Sharp 42A63M is rather hot, compare to 42W400A
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post Apr 20 2008, 10:30 PM

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^ Hot as in "heat" ? or hot as in more "popular" ?

Edit : oh wait, or do u mean hot as in "reddish" tongue.gif

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sharp A 63 PQ sucks bigtime
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post Apr 21 2008, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(welwitchia @ Apr 20 2008, 10:30 PM)
^ Hot as in "heat" ? or hot as in more "popular" ?

Edit : oh wait, or do u mean hot as in "reddish"  tongue.gif
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Hot as in heat. Actually I hoped that it would mean "hot chick" tongue.gif
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post Apr 21 2008, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(runemastertan @ Apr 18 2008, 05:16 PM)
Does this mean that the 100Hz make the movie worse for 24p?
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Here is my honest answer..I own a 32D series from sony.

Personall I liked the 100hz feature very much...

Movie wise...It makes the motions in the movie you play on the screen 'extra smooth.'....it basically doubles the frames per second...you will somehow look at it a bit smoother hence it'll look somewhat 'artificial'..Whether artificial is bad or not depends entirely on one's 'taste' or prefernce...I liked watching Pirates BD with Motion plus turned on (normal setting).

But there's certain movie I prefer watching it with the option off...

When it come to games....

Again Some games I prefer it to be switched on and some off. Example of a game that I liked it to be switched on is Motorstorm...The game is running at 30fps...add Motion Plus...it becomes 60fps...hence smoother...

Some games is not suited to be 'motion plus'ed...because motion plus will sometimes introduces 'noise' in the video...hence I'll switch it off...

Most of the time I'll leave it on at Normal setting.

Ypu have to see it your selves to decide....It's totally falls back to one's preference....

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