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kuanming86
post Oct 14 2010, 10:30 PM

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wondering so far is there any of your colleagues or coursemates ever get 4.0 ? IPTA or IPTS ?

for our school, so far the highest i every heard is only 3.5 ? btw, im grad from UCSI

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post Oct 15 2010, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(kuanming86 @ Oct 14 2010, 10:30 PM)
wondering so far is there any of your colleagues or coursemates ever get 4.0 ? IPTA or IPTS ?

for our school, so far the highest i every heard is only 3.5 ? btw, im grad from UCSI

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You've graduated from UCSI? How's the course there?
Where do UCSI grads go to further their studies in Architecture?
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QUOTE(tehtmc @ Oct 14 2010, 01:19 PM)
Which college is that? Taylors? Yes, the value of CGPA do vary from one institution to another.

It is a fact of life that the selection process of students into the IPTA's is not solely based on meritocracy.  I would be very surprised if the selection of students into a 2nd degree, in this case, the B. Arch. Part II programme of an IPTA would be any different.

Maybe, there have not been so many applicants or maybe not many students know about it. I'm sure a lot more would go for it if there are aware of the option. The other thing is, those who go through the IPTS take pre-U courses other than STPM/matric. This criterion alone would also preclude them from applying to the IPTA's.
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one of the reason for this thread is to provide as much information related to studying architecture as possible, which includes where u can study after STPM, diploma or part 1. it is indirectly promoting the schools offering these courses and to let the students themselves make their best informed judgment, if possible.

that aside, i havent done anything to promote our school (UTM) amongst IPTS. i'm not sure if that's even legal or allowed. but give me the chance, and i would. this year (2010) we only had about 3 candidates applied for our part 2. which ofcourse, they're not qualified as they dont have part 1. even so, we entertained them in the interviews. should they be accepted, they will join us at 3rd year level (final year of part 1). but alas, none made it through the cut. we took in 10 students from IPTAs including an international.

i dont have the numbers for previous year. if i have the time, i will collect andpublish the statistics here.
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post Oct 15 2010, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(tehtmc @ Oct 15 2010, 08:56 AM)
You've graduated from UCSI? How's the course there?
Where do UCSI grads go to further their studies in Architecture?
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how is the course there...
er i don't think i have qualified enough to judge the qualities.. lol
but anyway I'm quite satisfied with the teaching environment here, but faculties wise .. sad.gif

taking in consideration for my batch, i'm their third batch graduated students.
some of my seniors repeated their 3rd year for those going to uk. then for aus. direct master.


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post Oct 21 2010, 07:00 PM

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IPTA or IPTS.. actually depends on each individual ability to adapt to the working environment..

But it's true, many architect's firm prefer an IPTA graduate more, including my company.. even based on my observation, IPTA graduates is more independant and self-motivated learner. U can throw them into the sea, and they will learn to survive..
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hey.
i will taking my SPM next week.
just blurred,
how could i know which school is better for an architecture in malaysia or oversea.

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post Oct 24 2010, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(awanistajuddin @ Oct 24 2010, 04:18 PM)
hey.
i will taking my SPM next week.
just blurred,
how could i know which school is better for an architecture in malaysia or oversea.
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Local universities are recognized my LAM. Other than that, in general i think no one school is better than the other.
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post Oct 24 2010, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(awanistajuddin @ Oct 24 2010, 08:18 AM)
hey.
i will taking my SPM next week.
just blurred,
how could i know which school is better for an architecture in malaysia or oversea.
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better in what sense?

if u're talking about recognition and license to work in malaysia, then u'd be best sticking to malaysian IPTAs. if u're talking about academic advancements, then look for universities in the world top 50. if u want tradition, then look for schools established before 1940s. the list goes on...
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QUOTE(awanistajuddin @ Oct 24 2010, 04:18 PM)
hey.
i will taking my SPM next week.
just blurred,
how could i know which school is better for an architecture in malaysia or oversea.
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yea local ipta is the safest and bestest in terms of recognition...it depends on individual itself...the exposure and creativity...everyone has different weaknesses and strenght...
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Whats an IPTA?
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post Oct 27 2010, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Oct 27 2010, 12:00 PM)
Whats an IPTA?
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lol ^^"
IPTA = Institusi Pengajian Tinggi Awam (Public institute of higher learning) eg. UM,UKM,USM,UTM,UPM,UIA,UiTM etc.
IPTS = Institusi Pengajian Tinggi Swasta (Private institute of higher learning) eg. Taylor's University, MMU, Lim Kok Wing, UTAR, Sunway University College, Monash,Nottingham, Curtin etc.

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post Oct 28 2010, 12:57 PM

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erm.. May i know UTM, UM, USM, UIAM,UiTM, UPM, UKM , which is the best in architecture? isit UIAM just for asasi student? isit Uitm just for bumiputera student? now i am a matrics student. if i din get 4.0, i also can get a place in architecture? ( i doesn't mean that i don't want to get 4.0, i will try my best to get it, just in case i didn't get it..) how about MUET? what band is required?
what is the most important to criterion to choose university for architecture?
can anyone answer me? thank you..
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QUOTE(bacteria loh @ Oct 28 2010, 04:57 AM)
erm.. May i know UTM, UM, USM, UIAM,UiTM, UPM, UKM , which is the best in architecture? isit UIAM just for  asasi student? isit Uitm just for  bumiputera student? now i am a matrics student. if i din get 4.0, i also can get a place in architecture? ( i doesn't mean that i don't want to get 4.0, i will try my best to get it, just in case i didn't get it..) how about MUET? what band is required?
what is the most important to criterion to choose university for architecture?
can anyone  answer me? thank you..
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1. each school have its own advantage and disadvantages.
UTM being the oldest and most established (architecture school since 1904) but it's in skudai (not many people wanna move and live in JB for 5 years).
UM has received both LAM and RIBA accreditation, but the school is small and the competition is extremely high.
UiTM too has received both LAM and RIBA accreditation, but it's only open to bumiputera.
USM architecture school resides under APEX university status, which means they have a lot of fundings, but that's more towards postgraduate studies.
and this is just to name a few. it's quite impossible to know which is the best, as the criterion depends heavily on u.

2. UIAM is open to all, not just asasi students.

3. to land a place in architecture, u need to be on the top of list. period. in a year where people get 3.00 average, then a 3.10 can easily land a place. but if the average is 3.90, then u know the 3.10 doesnt stand a chance. there's no way of knowing how the trend fares each year, as it rises and falters as they please.

4. MUET does not affect ur chances in applying. all u need is a pass.

5. as i've said earlier, the criterion is based on u. what are u looking for? are u willing to study in outside lembah klang area? do u prefer student oriented learning or the traditional teacher centered learning? does facilities matter much to u?
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QUOTE(Hikari0307 @ Oct 27 2010, 12:57 PM)
lol ^^"
IPTA = Institusi Pengajian Tinggi Awam (Public institute of higher learning) eg. UM,UKM,USM,UTM,UPM,UIA,UiTM etc.
IPTS = Institusi Pengajian Tinggi Swasta (Private institute of higher learning) eg. Taylor's University, MMU, Lim Kok Wing, UTAR, Sunway University College, Monash,Nottingham, Curtin etc.
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post Nov 1 2010, 01:31 PM

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taking my spm next week too T.T
im thinking to take foundation since it takes shorter time

but what if im more interesting studying in UK more then in local after my foundation @@ ?

or twinning program perhaps

which college should i apply ? >< cry.gif

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QUOTE(HiMe-SuN @ Nov 1 2010, 01:31 PM)
taking my spm next week too T.T
im thinking to take foundation since it takes shorter time

but what if im more interesting studying in UK more then in local after my foundation @@  ?

or twinning program perhaps

which college should i apply ? ><  cry.gif
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The best option here is A-Level,STPM or IB.
Though since you are concerned with duration those might not appeal to you.
Than the next in line that would have more choices open to you would be pre-u programmes like SAM,Ausmat,HSC,CPU etc. rather than a Foundation programme and the length of the programs are almost the same all about one year. Though if your thinking of going to the UK and if your joining pre-u for January/March intake A-Levels are quite suitable for the timing of UK programme intakes while after doing the other programmes you might need to wait months for the intake to UK.
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QUOTE(Hikari0307 @ Nov 1 2010, 03:30 PM)
The best option here is A-Level,STPM or IB.
Though since you are concerned with duration those might not appeal to you.
Than the next in line that would have more choices open to you would be pre-u programmes like SAM,Ausmat,HSC,CPU etc. rather than a Foundation programme and the length of the programs are almost the same all about one year. Though if your thinking of going to the UK and if your joining pre-u for January/March intake A-Levels are quite suitable for the timing of UK programme intakes while after doing the other programmes you might need to wait months for the intake to UK.
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hmm ? hmm.gif

so does that mean if im taking foundation , i cant continue me study in UK ? @@


@@ and im confusing about the pre u programmes LOL!

but anyways ~ thxxxxxxxx smile.gif


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Hello. Would like to ask.
If I'm taking foundation would I be able to apply to NUS?

I do not have any basic in arts. Not experienced in drawing. Will it affect my performance? If not foundation or A-level would be recommended? Will they teacher u basic drawings in foundation? Thanks in advance.
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QUOTE(HiMe-SuN @ Nov 1 2010, 03:06 PM)
hmm ?  hmm.gif

so does that mean if im taking foundation , i cant continue me study in UK ? @@
@@ and im confusing about the pre u programmes LOL!

but anyways ~ thxxxxxxxx  smile.gif
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the easiest way to see it is, the foundations are school specific programme. rather than look at it as something for u to use to skip from O-levels/SPM to degree, look at it as a tool for the school to entice SPM leavers to come study degree at their schools. the advantage of foundation lies more on the school rather than the student!

bottom line is, foundations are not accepted widely between schools. a foundation from school ABC might not be accepted in DEF. let alone overseas universities.


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QUOTE(weikeatWK @ Nov 1 2010, 03:13 PM)
Hello. Would like to ask.
If I'm taking foundation would I be able to apply to NUS?

I do not have any basic in arts. Not experienced in drawing. Will it affect my performance? If not foundation or A-level would be recommended? Will they teacher u basic drawings in foundation? Thanks in advance.
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which foundation? NUS wont accept any foundation programmes. they prefer big certs like A-levels, IB or STPM.

if u dont have any experience in dwg or not good at it, it will affect ur performance. however, the syllabus should cater for people like u, hence they will have some basic training in drawings, but not necessarily arts. (if u havent picked up already, there's a difference between arts and drawings!)

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QUOTE(bacteria loh @ Oct 28 2010, 12:57 PM)
erm.. May i know UTM, UM, USM, UIAM,UiTM, UPM, UKM , which is the best in architecture? isit UIAM just for  asasi student? isit Uitm just for  bumiputera student? now i am a matrics student. if i din get 4.0, i also can get a place in architecture? ( i doesn't mean that i don't want to get 4.0, i will try my best to get it, just in case i didn't get it..) how about MUET? what band is required?
what is the most important to criterion to choose university for architecture?
can anyone  answer me? thank you..
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i'll answer ur question for the UIAM asasi;

its true, for UIAM architecture, u have to go though uia asasi matriculation at P.J., whereby u'll be trained with their architecture matriculation.

unlike normal matriculation centers whre u have sains fizik or sains bio, uia asasi matriculation is already subjected for architecture studies for 1 year.

if somehow u got accepted to UIAM degree at their gombak main campus, u'll still gonna hav to take extra credit hour classes for foundation subjects u left from the matriculation.

hope this helps. wink.gif

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