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post Feb 13 2008, 07:22 AM

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QUOTE(remysix @ Feb 12 2008, 08:27 AM)
mine is also like urs...vdroop around 45 - 50 mV...need to get the exact figure later. btw, how's ur vdrop? mine like another 35-40mV...so basically once the quaddie is on load, the vcore dropped around 80 - 90mV compared to what i've set in BIOS...really not good. shakehead.gif
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You mean the DK P35-T2RS also has such a bad vdrop/vdroop for the quad? Same like my P35-DS3 leh..... don't you have other settings that you can set in BIOS e.g. Loadline calibration, etc.....

My P35-DS3, BIOS 1.400v, CPUz idle @ 1.36v, CPUz load @ 1.312v..... vdrop/vdroop of 0.088v..... sad.gif

QUOTE(sopen2003 @ Feb 13 2008, 03:35 AM)
what is vdroop? hmm..  unsure.gif  is it voltage after load that been measure? btw, this some link i found.. but i still dont understand..  rclxub.gif

http://www.thetechrepository.com/showthread.php?t=126
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See here : http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...0#entry15451675

Look at Part 8. There is also a link that explains better about vdrop/vdroop.... smile.gif
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post Feb 13 2008, 08:17 AM

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guys my chipset temp this morning is 53 degrees
last nite oni 40 something
just wanna ask u guys temp
is it normal o not normal?
my cpu fan die
i change to my gemini2
the temp almost same 36-40
naik turun
b4 is 38-40
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Feb 13 2008, 07:22 AM)
You mean the DK P35-T2RS also has such a bad vdrop/vdroop for the quad? Same like my P35-DS3 leh..... don't you have other settings that you can set in BIOS e.g. Loadline calibration, etc.....

My P35-DS3, BIOS 1.400v, CPUz idle @ 1.36v, CPUz load @ 1.312v..... vdrop/vdroop of 0.088v.....  sad.gif
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yeah...pretty bad. coz previously i was using the P35-DQ6; and i must say that that board is really stable in terms of voltage. Completed OCCT and the vcore graph shown 0% ripple...idle=load, so when switched to this DK (maybe mine, other seems quite ok), 80-90mV diff between is really frustrating and troublesome for my oc. e.g. last nite, tried to prime my q6600 425x8=3.4G...with DQ6, set the vcore to 1.35 and no problem doing with priming for hours (normally i did > 8 hours)...with DK, i need to set +125mV (vid=1.25v) ==> 1.375v set, vdrop to 1.34v, primed and vdroop to 1.31v...less than half an hour, got error with one of the core. so, back to bios, re-set the vcore...one step higher than +125mV (didnt remember)...this time vdroop to 1.32v...stable for 2 hours testing...this is really dissapointing for me...i gues the others is luckier than i am. cry.gif

QUOTE(nelienuxe_sara @ Feb 13 2008, 08:17 AM)
guys my chipset temp this morning is 53 degrees
last nite oni 40 something
just wanna ask u guys temp
is it normal o not normal?
my cpu fan die
i change to my gemini2
the temp almost same 36-40
naik turun
b4 is 38-40
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53c is with ur system on load or idle? what about ur ambient temp?probably it got to do with ur ventilation? not sure thou...


Added on February 13, 2008, 8:46 am
QUOTE(vearn27 @ Feb 12 2008, 10:54 PM)
A little outta topic here... thou still related to the same board anyhow (cause I'm using it tongue.gif)

I just bought a 500GB Seagate 7200.11 32MB SATA II HDD and currently running on UDMA Mode-5 (ATA-100) as showed by my system device properties. I running WinXP and BIOS SATA mode: IDE. Someone told me I could run it at UDMA Mode-6 (ATA-133) if I select BIOS SATA mode: ACHI. However, doing so will need to reformat the Windows and also installing a SATA driver before installing the OS. My Floppy Disk Drive "kaputed" and taken out sweat.gif. Any recommendation? Or just continue with UDMA Mode-5? unsure.gif

My first time playing with SATA II. Sorry for my noobness sweat.gif...
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bro...with XP u have no option but 2:
1. using the normal floppy disk...kaputed edi -- no go
2. using USB Floppy disk -- if u have a notebook one, can use la
3. slipstream the driver into the XP installation...the only way since #1 cannot.

btw, i think even thou u r using the same mobo, this question should go under Technical Support la...follow the link
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/501772

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post Feb 13 2008, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(nelienuxe_sara @ Feb 13 2008, 08:17 AM)
guys my chipset temp this morning is 53 degrees
last nite oni 40 something
just wanna ask u guys temp
is it normal o not normal?
my cpu fan die
i change to my gemini2
the temp almost same 36-40
naik turun
b4 is 38-40
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Did you check your temperature according to the SmartGuardian? I can quite confident tell you that the SmartGuardian programmed wrongly. Erm... rather to say just the wrong description for the "CHIPSET" and "SYSTEM" temperature showed. The "CHIPSET" should be labeled as "PWM AREA" and the "SYSTEM" should be labeled as "CHIPSET". So the true temperature for your chipset is the one showed by "SYSTEM" by your SmartGuardian smile.gif.

QUOTE(remysix @ Feb 13 2008, 08:41 AM)

Added on February 13, 2008, 8:46 am
bro...with XP u have no option but 2:
1. using the normal floppy disk...kaputed edi -- no go
2. using USB Floppy disk -- if u have a notebook one, can use la
3. slipstream the driver into the XP installation...the only way since #1 cannot.

btw, i think even thou u r using the same mobo, this question should go under Technical Support la...follow the link
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/501772
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Icic. Thanks a lot for the direction smile.gif.

Anyway, will there be noticeable performance gain in using ACHI mode than IDE? unsure.gif
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post Feb 13 2008, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Feb 13 2008, 09:10 AM)
Did you check your temperature according to the SmartGuardian? I can quite confident tell you that the SmartGuardian programmed wrongly. Erm... rather to say just the wrong description for the "CHIPSET" and "SYSTEM" temperature showed. The "CHIPSET" should be labeled as "PWM AREA" and the "SYSTEM" should be labeled as "CHIPSET". So the true temperature for your chipset is the one showed by "SYSTEM" by your SmartGuardian smile.gif.
Icic. Thanks a lot for the direction smile.gif.

Anyway, will there be noticeable performance gain in using ACHI mode than IDE? unsure.gif
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performance gain...in real life; not sure but i do think it might not be noticeable.
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post Feb 13 2008, 10:15 AM

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i would like to ask wheter power phase lvl helps in vcore vdroop problem...for this dk p35 mobo is a 4 phase pwm...will it be a cause for the vdroop problem for this board
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QUOTE(remysix @ Feb 13 2008, 09:34 AM)
performance gain...in real life; not sure but i do think it might not be noticeable.
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How about its features? Benefiting? unsure.gif

Since my Seagate 7200.11 supporting NCQ, should I try to get mine running in ACHI mode? huh.gif
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post Feb 13 2008, 11:34 AM

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i used the smart guardian la
ventilation ah?
open case wor
i mean i didnt use any case haha

forgot la the name
let say like this
the first box from he lef is cpu rite?
i saw the middle 1
in red colour somemore 53 degrees
the last 1 same as usual 38-40

btw the temp is during idle not load...
since i woke up then just press the on button the left the pc i take bath..

i set the ram at auto
later figure out how to oc my ram to 1066MHz hehe

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post Feb 13 2008, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(nelienuxe_sara @ Feb 13 2008, 11:34 AM)
i used the smart guardian la
ventilation ah?
open case wor
i mean i didnt use any case haha

forgot la the name
let say like this
the first box from he lef is cpu rite?
i saw the middle 1
in red colour somemore 53 degrees
the last 1 same as usual 38-40

btw the temp is during idle not load...
since i woke up then just press the on button the left the pc i take bath..

i set the ram at auto
later figure out how to oc my ram to 1066MHz hehe
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Brother, read properly on what I posted earlier tongue.gif.

The middle box in the SmartGuardian which you're mentioning with high temperature even during idle is normal. It's because they programmed the SmartGuardian or should say labeled the SmartGuardian wrongly which that middle box temperature is actually showing the temperature of the PWM Area than Chipset. The Chipset temperature is the one showed by the last box (right most) of SmartGuardian which labeled as System temperature. 50C+ degree is normal for PWM Area smile.gif.
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post Feb 13 2008, 12:36 PM

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i c so it is normal la
haha did read ur post properly
btw rite now not at home mah
cannot c the name
now in class at upm ^^
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QUOTE(gsan @ Feb 12 2008, 09:25 AM)
what is the vcore reading in bios? 1.26v too?
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vcore in bios while oc to 3ghz, idle - 1.24V!!!! rclxms.gif
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will join u guys soon....out from 2 years OC retirement rclxms.gif tongue.gif

bye bye ultra-d...served me well even though died oledi laugh.gif
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QUOTE(moderno @ Feb 14 2008, 08:13 PM)
will join u guys soon....out from 2 years OC retirement  rclxms.gif  tongue.gif

bye bye ultra-d...served me well even though died oledi  laugh.gif
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post Feb 14 2008, 10:39 PM

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can anyone recommend me a cpu cooler ?
I dun really need a big one .. Infact , i need one which is cheap yet good quality .. Hope its Good enough to cool my E6550 to at least 3.9 mhz ..
any idea guys ? thanks alot.
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for 3.9Ghz ah.. for 65nm Conroes.. hmm i can only suggest three, which is obvious, 120Xtreme, xigmatek or ifx14
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QUOTE(a1098113 @ Feb 15 2008, 12:21 AM)
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for 3.9Ghz ah.. for 65nm Conroes.. hmm i can only suggest three, which is obvious, 120Xtreme, xigmatek or ifx14
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haha, i think will b over for his budget if take the IFX14 or TRUE. Xigmatek is best choice i think. Anyone tried TT V1 with it ? I've yet to take out my V1 from the S939 rig to test on mine. Mayb this weekend check out the temps. haha.
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QUOTE(avengers88 @ Feb 14 2008, 10:39 PM)
can anyone recommend me a cpu cooler ?
I dun really need a big one .. Infact , i need one which is cheap yet good quality .. Hope its Good enough to cool my E6550 to at least 3.9 mhz ..
any idea guys ? thanks alot.
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if no hassle / budget permit...go for Ultra 120 Extreme + pair with nice fan cun oledi woh tongue.gif

btw...lazy to search out...which PC6400 1gb x 2 ram pair nicely with this mobo? ahaha lazy to read all the way long...

freak a bit on DFI as my late ultra-d so picky on the rams nod.gif laugh.gif

OCZ, Team Xtreme, Crucial....hurmm laugh.gif
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QUOTE(moderno @ Feb 15 2008, 02:12 AM)
if no hassle / budget permit...go for Ultra 120 Extreme + pair with nice fan cun oledi woh tongue.gif

btw...lazy to search out...which PC6400 1gb x 2 ram pair nicely with this mobo? ahaha lazy to read all the way long...

freak a bit on DFI as my late ultra-d so picky on the rams  nod.gif  laugh.gif

OCZ, Team Xtreme, Crucial....hurmm  laugh.gif
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Dun worry bro. This mobo seems to b ok with most stuffs. I tried even unknown brand of rams on it still able to boot up and burn in with it. haha. I think the days of the NF4 pickyness r over. Anyone else got compatibility issue ?
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QUOTE(moderno @ Feb 14 2008, 08:13 PM)
will join u guys soon....out from 2 years OC retirement  rclxms.gif  tongue.gif

bye bye ultra-d...served me well even though died oledi  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(jy14 @ Feb 15 2008, 02:16 AM)
Dun worry bro. This mobo seems to b ok with most stuffs. I tried even unknown brand of rams on it still able to boot up and burn in with it. haha. I think the days of the NF4 pickyness r over. Anyone else got compatibility issue ?
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wei moderno ketinggalan lar wei..

dude that was last time...
ddr2 already like how long in the martket.. since my p4 D already.. so most of the chipsets are already mature and nothing really new is out there..

so most mobo makers are already in the loop..
except errr asus on 4 sticks ocz rams.. something to do with the tRFC which the whole XS has been petitioning and the new bios for all the p35/x38 asus boards are going to have some insane tRFC up to 130 i think..

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Feb 15 2008, 02:31 AM)
wei moderno ketinggalan lar wei..

dude that was last time...
ddr2 already like how long in the martket.. since my p4 D already.. so most of the chipsets are already mature and nothing really new is out there..

so most mobo makers are already in the loop..
except errr asus on 4 sticks ocz rams.. something to do with the tRFC which the whole XS has been petitioning and the new bios for all the p35/x38 asus boards are going to have some insane tRFC up to 130 i think..
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korang duk sibuk kacau gua kat kedai....sampai nak OC pun x sempat...ehehe tongue.gif

now got my fren helping me there...can start playin' back oledi biggrin.gif

last time i really hate those 4-3 LEDs on the ultra-d...have to use one kind of BIOS for one kind of ram (TCCD, BH5, Hynix etc)...

thinking of pairing Team Xtreme series...but saw that sniper69 got problem booting with it.. cool.gif or should i get a crucial tracer instead.. hmm.gif

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