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iPhone iPhone Club Version5, FW1.1.4 is out..........................

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frozzbyte
post Feb 15 2008, 01:00 AM

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Don't get it wrong ... SDK is not for end users. Its for developers to develop the apps for iphone. Its a set of developement tools to ease the programming of the app on iphone, something like the unofficial toolchain dat people uses now to develop current apps.

The apps develop with the SDK will be release via itunes. Some may be free and some u have to pay for it. It depends on the developer. The developer need to send the app to apple for evaluation and apple will sign the app with the application key. This is where 'NIKITA' comes to place. The apps will be executed in a 'sandbox', a protected space thats interact indirectly with the critical system files so no damage can be done to the system.
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QUOTE(fuiyo @ Feb 15 2008, 01:01 AM)
Well i've already saw that just now,

at least we know what kinds of apps there are right?

its just so great and yay. XD


Added on February 15, 2008, 1:03 am

Yep, i will only purchase those apps which i really need,

but i assume that i wont be very expensive,

since a HD movie rental is only $4.99,

and i dont think i'll buy many apps either,

just really those which i need much in life,

frozzbyte do you have an iTunes account?
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Yup ... got an account with itunes US. The price for the app would vary but i don't think its gonna be expensive. HD movie rental is cheap as there's a 24 hour expiry date on it.

One more thing ... it would take some time for apps to be published after the release of the SDK but some developers already got the SDK for testing.

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QUOTE(feizaiII @ Feb 15 2008, 10:28 AM)
frozz, what is the means of true 1.1.3 upgrade. Still abit confuse about it.
Let's say,i have my 4.6BL,1.1.2.
I soft-upgrade it to 1.1.3,software unlock it. I still able to use 1.1.3 features right and no sim unlock right..?
Sorry for my stupid ..
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Read hust-noon post.

True 1.1.3 upgrade means 1.1.3 firmware + 04.03.13_G Baseband. This only applies to BL3.9 as they can unlock the 04.03.12_G baseband with anysim1.3 or ziphone whereas if u upgrade from itunes to 1.1.3 for BL4.6 and did the unlock either thru gunlock or ziphone, it will downgrade the baseband back to 04.02.13_G (1.1.2 baseband) to enable the unlock. Hence u can't use some features in the new firmware i.e locate function in gmaps. But some reported that they are facing problem (cell network problem) when using 1.1.3 firmware with 1.1.2 baseband (1.1.3 F/W + 04.02.13_G baseband).

Regarding the 'Call failed' thing on maxis ... its definitly from the provider and not the phone. It oso happen if u use other phone. When i use on my SE, i always get 'call failed ... network busy'. What u can do is turn the phone off and on back or just take the sim card out and put it back. Its something got to do with maxis network capacity being overloaded.

It is oso advisible to do a clean restore to 1.1.3 so u won't be facing the trouble with native apps. Means start fresh without any data on 1.1.3. Not upgrade but restore to 1.1.3 to wipe everything out. This is because the file structure for 1.1.3 has change from 1.1.2.


Added on February 15, 2008, 12:12 pm
QUOTE(futobuta @ Feb 15 2008, 12:09 PM)
MNP...... that allows us to change mobile phone operators without having to change our number.
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MNP = Mobile Number Portability which suppose to be running this year. But with the General Election coming soon ... donno when gonna impliment.

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QUOTE(sixfooter @ Feb 15 2008, 12:02 PM)
Hmm... Kinda funny, my Google Map can locate me accurately of where am I eventhough using 04.02.13_G in 1.1.3 (Both EDGE and WiFI).
But Navison doesn't work, always pop up with failure and Locate Me is not so accurate. DiGi user here...
So should I downgrade my 4.6BL to 3.9BL as well? Or just leave it as it is...?
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Running locate me or navizon with 1.1.3 but 04.02 BB are known ways to get gmaps locate working. This already been discovered way back when the softupgrade issue. Have u tried rebooting ur phone and run gmaps without using locate me or navizon first?

Locate me uses the net to search the DB for location. So it requires cell network + wifi or cell network + edge or else it wont work.

I would suggest u to refrain urself from downgrading the bootloader. Wait for the coming development. Once u go to BL3.9 ... u can't go back to BL4.6. Now they said BL4.6 is more valueable as it has an exploit to let it be flash with custom BL.
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i use BSE front only with capsule. Best combination so far.
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or just use find ... type *.ipsw
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QUOTE(fuiyo @ Feb 17 2008, 02:41 PM)
Haha, dont want, i want a pure Apple iPhone =)

SDK's coming lah, what if it conflicts with those stuff from the installer,

for sure i'll go for the official apps instead of those.

This is the point, i know 100mb, 200mb, or even 300mb doesnt really mean nothing to 8gb or even 16gb

haaha, maybe im weird.
Pure Apple iPhone? Once u jailbreak, activate (not thru itunes) and unlock ... ur phone is not pure anymore. Jailbreak changes the permission for the system file, using a crack lockdown file for activation and unlocking the baseband with patched one to use unauthorized sim.

One more thing ... whats the fuss with SDK. End users don't benefit from it ... only developers. Its not a program but " A collection of TOOLS to help DEVELOPER to build APPS". What u should be waiting for is OFFICIAL APPS ... not the SDK. Even if the SDK out end of this month ... u would probably have to wait a while before Official Apps can be downloaded. This is because apple have to test and validate the apps so its compatible with iphone. Some might be downloaded right after the SDK launch as some developer got it early for testing.

If ur worried it conflicts with the stuff from installer then just uninstall it. Its easy. Installer + SDK = more wonderfull apps.

P/S - Don't get mad aaa .... not flaming u. Just giving info. smile.gif


Added on February 17, 2008, 3:23 pmOK ... off to Pavilion to check out the agent18 and catch a movie.

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haha ... eating at carls jr now while stealing wifi from nandos. Kekekeke. BTW problem with call failed happen frequently on maxis. Even using other phone oso i got call failed on maxis. U dont hear people on digi or celcom complaining. Maxis network sudah jem la.

1.1.3 oledi ready for 3rd party app. Thats why app now found in mobile folder. Nikita oso part of it. Dats why they say last time nate jb breaks nikita and cant use for official apps. Nikita use to varify if its an approve app o not. Apps run in a 'sandbox' condition in mobile folder which is a control environment.

I install a lot of apps and do heavy modding on my phone and never encounter any hangs dat need reboot or anything.

Waaa my burger getting cold laaaa. Time to eat. Nyam nyam.
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QUOTE(=Hanxz= @ Feb 17 2008, 05:59 PM)
OT where i know carls jr in MV anywhere else ka? laugh.gif
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Sorry guys .. of the topic. Just answering Q to another carls jr lover. Hehehehehe. They have it at One Utama near TGI and at sunway new wing.
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Well mine will show my maxis or digi or any other operator if i change the sim card ... only dat it will show the full name. Not just MY... I don't use Make it mine coz if u change the sim ... the name won't change with it.
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QUOTE(Tib @ Feb 17 2008, 10:59 PM)
guys did anyone encounter this problem..

i restore my iphone to 1.1.2 where is OTB1.1.2 phone. after restored i use ziphone 2.3 to AJU but i encounter this problem

after installing few application the installer when missing.. i not sure is the pagination problem or what?

can anyone help?
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Do u have summerboard install? If u don't then ur apps might be in the next page but u just can't access them. Summerboard patch the springboard (dats ur desktop) so u can have more than one desktop or pages.
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yup ... unpatch springboard only allow 16 apps to be displayed. if on 1.1.3 then u no need to install summerboard as u can create pages natively.
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QUOTE(Tib @ Feb 17 2008, 11:21 PM)
i just install the summerboard and extra icon display on my springboard... SMBPrefs
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Do u see any white dots just above mail and safari icons? if so then try to flick to ur left. If not then go into SMBPrefs and look into the setting.
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well his post #1477 said he's on 1.1.2.
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QUOTE(lordsharingan @ Feb 17 2008, 11:42 PM)
oh.. my mistake then..frozz what firmware are u on.. i think im planning to downgrade from 1.1.3 to 1.1.2 back..
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Well i'm on my trusty 1.1.2. Not yet interested with 1.1.3. Giving it a months time after SDK to mature more in terms of apps compatibility.
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post Feb 18 2008, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(Tib @ Feb 18 2008, 12:02 AM)
Ok let me summarise my problem and solution

Phone : OTB 1.1.2
AJU Method : Ziphone 2.3
Problem : Pagination problem
Solution : Require to install summerboard(old) to solve this problem
Contributor : Frossbyte

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Aiyaa ... don't la like dat. Making me blush laaa blush.gif Just helping another iphone lover.
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QUOTE(c_calvin @ Feb 18 2008, 12:14 AM)
anyone know to to "unhide" an icon manually?
i dunno why but my wedict is gone, i din touch any setting in customize also
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What F/W are u on? 1.1.2 or 1.1.3?


Added on February 18, 2008, 12:30 am
QUOTE(Tib @ Feb 18 2008, 12:26 AM)
did anyone got stuck when doing refreshing sources?
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One of the reason its stuck is one or more of ur sources is not responding. The other one would be ur connection. If ur connection is fine then the sources are just busy and u got a time off. Sometimes installer just got stuck in a time off. Just press the home button until the installer close and try again later.

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DAMN ... no wonder the battery always die fast. Just confirm the battery got swollen from the H/W attemp last time. Haiyaa ... now have to find battery replacement.
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QUOTE(c_calvin @ Feb 20 2008, 02:04 PM)
"die fast" means hw fast?  hmm.gif
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Like not even 1 day. Tot its the battery calibration thing but open up the phone just now and saw the battery swollen edi. Must be last time i accidently puncture the battery.
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QUOTE(bola @ Feb 20 2008, 09:27 PM)
having a bit of a problem here...

was installing programs on the phone and i cant remember what i was installing when it crashed.
now there is no sound coming from the iphone.
NO SOUND WHATSOEVER!

no ringing when a call comes in,
no music in ipod,
no slide to unlock clicking.

since then i've been uninstalling the packages but still doesnt fix the sound.
so i was wondering if i should just use itunes to restore it to 1.1.3 and then ziphone -a -j -u again on it. your suggestions please.

im on the 16gb iphone 1.1.3 OTB

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additional information update:
was reading this : Beware Ziphone 2.4 thread

i think i used the ziphone -Z option
i guess the bootloader was downgraded to 3.9.

how to check?
in General > About > Modem Firmware  = 04.03.13_G

can i stilll use iTunes to restore the iphone?
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Looking from ur description ... ziphone did downgrade ur bootloader. 1.1.3 OTB with 04.03 and unlock. U can check with HWInfo ... source from trejan.com if not mistaken.


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