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cwhong
post Jan 15 2011, 03:40 AM

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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Jan 14 2011, 08:11 PM)
in our trading platforms 1 lot = 100 units , so yeah 100 lots = 10000 units.

but, in conversation, most (older) ppl still refer to 1 lot as 1000 units, because the change was recent .. i think it was in 07.
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ya, kinda misunderstanding when i first time buying shares ask mine brokers few times just to comfirm ..... that time i still dunno this forum existed whistling.gif
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post Jan 15 2011, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Jan 14 2011, 08:11 PM)
in our trading platforms 1 lot = 100 units , so yeah 100 lots = 10000 units.

but, in conversation, most (older) ppl still refer to 1 lot as 1000 units, because the change was recent .. i think it was in 07.
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Investing is not like other professional sports , where young ages tend to have more energy to sustain.

Investing is more like in a state of the mind, while lot and lot of data are being kept , bigger capacity than a super computer.

And then comes the interpretation process whether to invest or not to invest.

And at of the end of it, there is no guarantee for success.

This post has been edited by SKY 1809: Jan 15 2011, 11:09 AM
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post Jan 15 2011, 03:22 PM

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energy to sustain rclxub.gif but we're now in IT era hmm.gif

http://www.adviservoice.com/2010/11/high-f...cy-trading-hft/

http://www.wikinvest.com/wiki/High-Frequen...ading_%28HFT%29

http://highfrequencytradingreview.com/

http://seekingalpha.com/article/151173-hft...cy-trading-scam

http://hft.thomsonreuters.com/


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post Jan 15 2011, 03:47 PM

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Haha, anything to do with US is always good.

But investors are shifting to Asia leh.

Let them ( US ) turning into a big casino if they really want to.

Feel good factor is everywhere.

BTW: HFT was defeated by humans when it short sell stocks to pennies. A trap set up by the humans to con HFT. HFT is not something so great as I first thought.

I believe most Malaysians do not have the intelligence of HFT to sell a blue chip for one sen ( If Bursa allows ) , but future versions could be more intelligence . Nothing is impoosible.

Neverlah if you have total trust in them.

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post Jan 15 2011, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jan 15 2011, 10:55 AM)
Investing is not like other professional sports , where young ages tend to have more energy to sustain.

Investing is more like  in a state of the mind, while lot and lot  of data are being kept , bigger capacity than a super computer.

And then comes the interpretation process whether to invest or not to invest.

And at of the end of it, there is no guarantee for success.
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(older) people are more seasoned.
nothing beats that. notworthy.gif
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post Jan 15 2011, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Jan 15 2011, 10:32 PM)
(older) people are more seasoned.
nothing beats that. notworthy.gif
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That is the beauty of investing in Malaysia, not liking to have HFT for the next 10 years.

After that, do expect HFT version 10 in town. biggrin.gif

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post Jan 17 2011, 07:33 PM

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Guys, I have until next Monday to decide whether or not to accept MTD's offer of RM9.50 per share. The Edge Weekly ran an article about this privatisation and was of the opinion that the offer price wasn't attractive. I read that the board already hired an independent adviser to do the valuation. But I've yet to get their valuation report.

I would like to hold on to this stock but the privitisation offer is unconditional and it's not subject to the acceptance level. If the public spread is less than that required by Bursa, MTD will not want to maintain its listing status. All minority shareholders have been "warned".

This is the first time I own a stock which is being privatised. I'd like to ask how the privitisation process will go about. Under what circumstances will the offeror revise the offer price? If I reject their offer now, can I still sell them my shares before the stock is delisted from Bursa.

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QUOTE(iamsobloodysick @ Jan 17 2011, 07:33 PM)
Guys, I have until next Monday to decide whether or not to accept MTD's offer of RM9.50 per share. The Edge Weekly ran an article about this privatisation and was of the opinion that the offer price wasn't attractive. I read that the board already hired an independent adviser to do the valuation. But I've yet to get their valuation report.

I would like to hold on to this stock but the privitisation offer is unconditional and it's not subject to the acceptance level. If the public spread is less than that required by Bursa, MTD will not want to maintain its listing status. All minority shareholders have been "warned".

This is the first time I own a stock which is being privatised. I'd like to ask how the privitisation process will go about. Under what circumstances will the offeror revise the offer price? If I reject their offer now, can I still sell them my shares before the stock is delisted from Bursa.

Thanks.
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Very seldom offeror revise the offer price if the privatisation has already entered into unconditional stage. It is not fair to the earlier shareholders that accept the offer in the first place.
So don't put high hope on revise offer.
Generally offer price only be revised if there is not enough acceptance in the first place, by then offeror table a totally new offer, and discard the previous offer.

As long as the share is traded in the market, you can sell the share in open market.
If the public spread requirement is not fulfilled, then KLSE will put out announcement and put a date line on it before delisting process underwent, and when it suspended for delisting process, no way you can sell those share already.

So if you don't want to accept the offer, be update about the public spread requirement and date line of it or suspend of share trading.
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post Jan 18 2011, 07:48 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 17 2011, 11:43 PM)
Very seldom offeror revise the offer price if the privatisation has already entered into unconditional stage. It is not fair to the earlier shareholders that accept the offer in the first place.
So don't put high hope on revise offer.
Generally offer price only be revised if there is not enough acceptance in the first place, by then offeror table a totally new offer, and discard the previous offer.

As long as the share is traded in the market, you can sell the share in open market.
If the public spread requirement is not fulfilled, then KLSE will put out announcement and put a date line on it before delisting process underwent, and when it suspended for delisting process, no way you can sell those share already.

So if you don't want to accept the offer, be update about the public spread requirement and date line of it or suspend of share trading.
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I see. I guess I'll have to accept the offer in that case.

I read from bursa announcement that an independent adviser has been appointed to advise the independent directors (or public?) on the offer. During an M&A or privitisation, will such an independent valuation report be made public to small investors like us?

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QUOTE(iamsobloodysick @ Jan 18 2011, 07:48 AM)
I see. I guess I'll have to accept the offer in that case.

I read from bursa announcement that an independent adviser has been appointed to advise the independent directors (or public?) on the offer. During an M&A or privitisation, will such an independent valuation report be made public to small investors like us?
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The independent advisor is for all shareholders, and they will send the circular to every shareholder across, cited their opinion on the price offered seems fair to shareholder or not.
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Can I know how long will it take a remiser to withdraw money from trust account and bank into my saving account??

thank for info
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QUOTE(wyyew @ Jan 19 2011, 10:03 AM)
Can I know how long will it take a remiser to withdraw money from trust account and bank into my saving account??

thank for info
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post Jan 21 2011, 09:21 AM

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Hi All, I have a question regarding placing order.

What is the criteria which affect how fast my order goes into the queue? Could it be the time when I place order? or the bank I am using? Thanks
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QUOTE(hibino55 @ Jan 21 2011, 09:21 AM)
Hi All, I have a question regarding placing order.

What is the criteria which affect how fast my order goes into the queue? Could it be the time when I place order? or the bank I am using? Thanks
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Your broker system, as normally, when you placed order, the order goes to the broker system before being directed to the KLSE main trading system.

Currently there is no direct link from clients to KLSE main trading system, as far as I know.
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post Jan 21 2011, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 21 2011, 09:46 AM)
Your broker system, as normally, when you placed order, the order goes to the broker system before being directed to the KLSE main trading system.

Currently there is no direct link from clients to KLSE main trading system, as far as I know.
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Thanks Cherroy. But the case I am dealing is, let's say I want to place a selling order at RM0.70 tomorrow, and I do the placement just after 5:30pm. So in the next morning, will I appear in the early queue? Some friend told me I'll, but I really cannot spot it...

My suspect is, it is dependent on the client's system, but I am not sure.
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QUOTE(hibino55 @ Jan 21 2011, 10:07 AM)
Thanks Cherroy. But the case I am dealing is, let's say I want to place a selling order at RM0.70 tomorrow, and I do the placement just after 5:30pm. So in the next morning, will I appear in the early queue? Some friend told me I'll, but I really cannot spot it...

My suspect is, it is dependent on the client's system, but I am not sure.
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It depends on your broker system.

You submitted the order at 5.30pm, but this order is not going to be directed to the KLSE trading system, it remains at broker system/server.

KLSE trading system only open at 8.30 or 8.45am, (forgot which time), so it is how your brokers system re-route the order to the KLSE and how fast it being re-routed on the next trading day.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 21 2011, 10:29 AM)
It depends on your broker system.

You submitted the order at 5.30pm, but this order is not going to be directed to the KLSE trading system, it remains at broker system/server.

KLSE trading system only open at 8.30 or 8.45am, (forgot which time), so it is how your brokers system re-route the order to the KLSE and how fast it being re-routed on the next trading day.
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I see, too bad then. I always notice my order will only be confirmed at around 9:03am cry.gif

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I have a question regarding warrants and privatization. If a company goes private, and pays off all its stock holders the worth of the stock, what happens to the warrant holders?

Do they get paid the value of the warrants after conversion to stock price as well?
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QUOTE(tineagle @ Jan 21 2011, 12:53 PM)
I have a question regarding warrants and privatization.  If a company goes private, and pays off all its stock holders the worth of the stock, what happens to the warrant holders?

Do they get paid the value of the warrants after conversion to stock price as well?
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I guess there will be a separate offer for outstanding warrants (Example).

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