The help page says the transaction price doesn't match either the best buy or best sell. If so how could there be a transaction in the first place?
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Jan 13 2010, 12:34 AM
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Dec 23 2010, 05:35 PM
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Hi guys,
If the major shareholders of a company makes an offer to take the company private, is it possible that they revise the offer price if the acceptance rate is less than anticipated? Did anything like this happen before? Thanks. |
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Dec 25 2010, 09:03 AM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Dec 23 2010, 09:24 PM) Then need to void the previous offer, and table a totally new offer to all across. Thanks cherroy.As far as I remembered, not come across. Mostly the offer price is changed prior before, aka in the proposal stage, not until see the acceptance rate is low, only change the price. Another question is, if shareholders accept the offer do they need to pay the transaction costs like they normal do when buying and selling shares? |
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Dec 29 2010, 07:56 PM
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Dec 31 2010, 07:38 PM
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QUOTE(hongzheng @ Dec 30 2010, 05:15 PM) this is the "Mid" type matching: If the order was matched partially at 7.07 and 7.08, shouldn't the number of shares matched at those prices be counted in their respective price groups?12 09:12:52 Order matched. [5900] Shares, Price [7.09], Terminal ID [211], Order No [1001691] Seq No [599628]. 11 09:12:52 Order matched. [3000] Shares, Price [7.09], Terminal ID [211], Order No [1001691] Seq No [599628]. 10 09:12:51 Order matched. [2000] Shares, Price [7.08], Terminal ID [211], Order No [1001691] Seq No [599628]. 9 09:12:51 Order matched. [1000] Shares, Price [7.08], Terminal ID [211], Order No [1001691] Seq No [599628]. 8 09:12:51 Order matched. [100] Shares, Price [7.08], Terminal ID [211], Order No [1001691] Seq No [599628]. 7 09:12:51 Order matched. [2000] Shares, Price [7.07], Terminal ID [211], Order No [1001691] Seq No [599628]. Q to buy 7.09, somehow at the same time got people selling 7.07 7.08, the system will match the lowest price first before proceeding to the original Q price. On a side note, is there a thread for intra-day trade? It will be good to have one since it is quite a different ball game... BTW, which online broker are you using? I don't remember seeing the "Mid" type in m2u. |
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Jan 3 2011, 09:39 AM
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![]() Does the shares issued include the treasury shares? I'm not able to arrive at the same total number of shares following Pantech's recent corporate exercise. Prior to the exercise, Pantech has issued 375,026,000 shares. 820,800 shares have been bought back. Hence, 374,205,200 shares outstanding. Pantech gave out 1 bonus share for 5 existing shares. If I divide 374,205,200, I get 74,841,040 which is the number of new shares (my calculation) from the bonus issue. Adding 374,205,200 and 74,841,040, I only get 449,046,240 which is a fall short from 449,867,027. Even when I take the treasury shares into account, the total shares of 449,867,040 (449,046,240 + 820,800) still doesn't tally with what is shown in the screenie. Does anyone know how to get the shares issued figure? Thanks in advance. --- I found this announcement saying 74,841,027 bonus shares would be listed. This number is different from what I calculated above by 13 new shares (or 65 existing shares, 1:5). If I add the original outstanding shares, reported new bonus shares and treasury shares, I'll get the total number of shares in the screenie. But, why is that the 65 existing outstanding shares weren't entitled for the 13 bonus shares? This post has been edited by iamsobloodysick: Jan 3 2011, 10:09 AM |
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Jan 4 2011, 11:43 AM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 4 2011, 11:21 AM) I am not familiar with this stock. Yeah you're right. I missed the simple point. But to answer your first question. Treasury shares is including in the total number of share issued, until company decided to cancel the treasury shares. As treasury is just a share held by the company, as same as being held by anyone, and it can be sold off anytime to the market, or distributed to shareholders at anytime, at the company wish. |
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Jan 5 2011, 07:41 AM
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QUOTE(ltcbomd @ Jan 4 2011, 10:37 PM) QUOTE 1) The above Company's securities will be traded and quoted [ "Ex - Bonus Issue" ] as from : [ 28 October 2010 ] 2) The last date of lodgement : [ 1 November 2010 ] Remarks : "Bursa Malaysia Securities Bhd would like to clarify that on the basis of settlement taking place on 2 November 2010 with bonus issue of UMCCA shares of RM1.00 each, any shareholder who is entitled to receive UMCCA bonus issue shares, may sell any or all of his UMCCA shares arising from the bonus issue beginning the Ex-Date (28 October 2010). For example, if Mr X purchases 200 UMCCA shares on cum basis on 27 October 2010, Mr X should receive 200 shares on 1 November 2010. As a result of the bonus issue, a total of 300 UMCCA shares will be credited into Mr X's CDS account on the night of 1 November 2010 being the Book Closing Date. Therefore, Mr X can sell the bonus issue shares of 300 on or after the Ex-Date ie from 28 October 2010 onwards." Answer to your question is in the example above. |
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Jan 7 2011, 09:23 AM
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Could anyone please explain the following accounts? What are the differences between, say allowance for doubtful debts and doubtful debts written off?
Allowance for Doubtful Debts Allowance for Doubtful Debts No Longer Required Doubtful Debts Written Off Doubtful Debts Recovered Allowance for Obsolete Inventories Allowance for Obsolete Inventories No Longer Required Allowance for Inventories Written Off Allowance for Inventories Written Off No Longer Required |
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Jan 7 2011, 02:58 PM
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QUOTE(htt @ Jan 7 2011, 11:38 AM) For CA, you normally don't get stocks, instead you got money based on the formula pre-determined, normally average price of 5 days prior to the maturity date or so. Thanks for your efforts.If the average price is RM5, then you should be getting RM200 back if I correct on my calculation. Added on January 7, 2011, 11:42 am Your question maybe can find the answer by googling... but if have to type the answer out then that take some pains... e.g. allowance for doubtful debt is allocation reserved for a portion of debtors to turn into default, no cash going out, the doubtful debtors have to be pre-determine by a measurable means e.g. suspicious, bad credit record, or by % etc. I try to answer one already very sick & tired... some more no marks will be awarded... I've actually asked my girlfriend (ACCA) the same questions but I'm not satisfied with her answers. The following two sound the same to me. Allowance for Doubtful Debts Doubtful Debts Written Off Both will be treated as expenses. I'd like to know why not write off the doubtful debts instead of making an allowance for it. I did google but I'm confused with the terms used in the report. For example, Is "Allowance for Doubtful Debts No Longer Required" a write-back? Haiz. I really wish I did finance & accounting for my degree. I've done cfa 2 but I lack analysis practice. |
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Jan 8 2011, 09:13 AM
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QUOTE(t5t @ Jan 8 2011, 08:39 AM) Is this applied to both company and call warrants? Or just company warrants? I suppose the calculation only applies to call warrants.I have another question... In what situation can a financial report has higher Profit than its Revenue? For example, the Revenue is only 15mil ringgit but the Profit is 77mil ringgit. Is this something to do with "PROFESSIONAL VALUATION OF THE GROUP'S INVESTMENT PROPERTIES"? If yes, then what does this mean? Thank you. Return of call warrants per share = [(settlement price - exercise price) / exercise ratio * exchange rate] - entry price Return of company warrants per share = mother price - exercise price - entry price * exercise ratio I just realized call warrants calculation is different. I had been giving the wrong information to my friends. |
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Jan 17 2011, 07:33 PM
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Guys, I have until next Monday to decide whether or not to accept MTD's offer of RM9.50 per share. The Edge Weekly ran an article about this privatisation and was of the opinion that the offer price wasn't attractive. I read that the board already hired an independent adviser to do the valuation. But I've yet to get their valuation report.
I would like to hold on to this stock but the privitisation offer is unconditional and it's not subject to the acceptance level. If the public spread is less than that required by Bursa, MTD will not want to maintain its listing status. All minority shareholders have been "warned". This is the first time I own a stock which is being privatised. I'd like to ask how the privitisation process will go about. Under what circumstances will the offeror revise the offer price? If I reject their offer now, can I still sell them my shares before the stock is delisted from Bursa. Thanks. |
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Jan 18 2011, 07:48 AM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 17 2011, 11:43 PM) Very seldom offeror revise the offer price if the privatisation has already entered into unconditional stage. It is not fair to the earlier shareholders that accept the offer in the first place. I see. I guess I'll have to accept the offer in that case.So don't put high hope on revise offer. Generally offer price only be revised if there is not enough acceptance in the first place, by then offeror table a totally new offer, and discard the previous offer. As long as the share is traded in the market, you can sell the share in open market. If the public spread requirement is not fulfilled, then KLSE will put out announcement and put a date line on it before delisting process underwent, and when it suspended for delisting process, no way you can sell those share already. So if you don't want to accept the offer, be update about the public spread requirement and date line of it or suspend of share trading. I read from bursa announcement that an independent adviser has been appointed to advise the independent directors (or public?) on the offer. During an M&A or privitisation, will such an independent valuation report be made public to small investors like us? This post has been edited by iamsobloodysick: Jan 18 2011, 07:48 AM |
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Jan 21 2011, 02:57 PM
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QUOTE(tineagle @ Jan 21 2011, 12:53 PM) I have a question regarding warrants and privatization. If a company goes private, and pays off all its stock holders the worth of the stock, what happens to the warrant holders? I guess there will be a separate offer for outstanding warrants (Example).Do they get paid the value of the warrants after conversion to stock price as well? |
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Jan 21 2011, 05:32 PM
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QUOTE(Novice76 @ Jan 21 2011, 05:26 PM) Hi. Can anyone pls tell me how i can find out whether a company has a policy to share its profit with shareholders in the form of dividend and its ratio? Thinking of moving some funds into such companies. Thanks! I usually will read up their annual report or more specifically their chairman's statement regarding their dividend policy. |
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Feb 10 2011, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE(schrodinger_cat @ Feb 10 2011, 10:09 AM) Hi guys, can somebody briefly explain what is "notice of intention to deal during closed period" and what its potential effects to the company? Bursa requires top officers in listed companies to give notice of their intention to buy or sell shares during the information sensitive period. The definition of closed period is defined below. This sort of announcement is just the formality imho. More often than not, we, the public investors, are always the last to receive material information and trade after insiders or people connected to them buy or dump their shares.Closed Period The two months before a company announces its results in which directors are prohibited from dealing in its shares. This is to prevent them from taking advantage of inside information about the company's performance. Also, the period of time during the term of a mortgage loan when it cannot be prepaid. ... from http://www.finance-glossary.com/define/clo...period/2173/0/C This post has been edited by iamsobloodysick: Feb 10 2011, 10:33 AM |
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