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 Next-Gen Consoles vs PC, Which is superior?

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cannavaro
post Dec 13 2007, 07:33 PM

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This is a no-brainer. PC of course.
Unless, the question is more specific.
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post Dec 13 2007, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(Maya Aimi @ Dec 13 2007, 06:25 PM)
if compare hardware ..... i have my eye on the PS3's Cell Broadband Processor. Those 1 PPE and 7 SPE's are yummy!!!!
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post Dec 14 2007, 10:41 AM

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pc is the answer... but considering pc with non stop upgrade.. hehehe.. i suggest those with pc.. get one good one now.. with latest tech of mobo,gc, procs and max the ram i think 4g should be fine... spend few k in it.. then it should last u few years of gaming compatible...

i dont mean u can play all game in few years time in full max setting but u still can play it... all u need is upgrade ur gc la... like once in a year or two.... for console... one shot spen few k then thats it.... no more major upgrade.... but one thing is one day u will see that grapic on pc is much much more better than this console... choosing pc will burn more hole to ur pocket and wallet which one u want? but for me i choose both... la.... that doesnt make me rich guy but some game really feel good on pc or console... and i need both any way.. lol

anyway as of now i still using old pc... p4 2.4.. but my gc is 7600gt... and it still rock my world.. lol.. soon gonna get a ps3 since now only have ps2...

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post Dec 14 2007, 11:36 AM

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few years ? yeah .... that was what I thought when I upgraded mine to the highest end at that time with 3 GB RAM, 7800GT. Then they announced DX10 coming.

Hardly lasted a year for max setting.
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post Dec 14 2007, 01:22 PM

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well pc only be superior if the owner always upgrade the hardware. If not, most likely the pc cant play many game after a few year.


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post Dec 15 2007, 10:29 AM

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PC need installation, u hv to clear off ur HD if you do not play... Console juz plug n play. U can play as many games as u want!
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post Dec 15 2007, 10:46 AM

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PC for sure....
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post Dec 15 2007, 11:27 AM

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If you think about raw and unadulterated power, PC is your man to go. But talking about bang for the buck, console f*ck PC over.
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post Dec 15 2007, 02:18 PM

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Not a PC gamer, but truth be told. You NEED a PC to make games for consoles.
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post Dec 15 2007, 02:48 PM

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but in the end it all comes down to the games which as we may see more are on the way for the consoles since they're slightly easier to developed comparative for the pc with multiple specs to have in mind. However, like muchi said you still need the pc to develop games for the console like for instance an article i read stated that DMC4 development started on PC engine than it was put it on the consoles.
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post Dec 15 2007, 09:53 PM

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QUOTE(slickz @ Dec 14 2007, 11:36 AM)
few years ? yeah .... that was what I thought when I upgraded mine to the highest end at that time with 3 GB RAM, 7800GT. Then they announced DX10 coming.

Hardly lasted a year for max setting.
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yeah i understand ur frustration.... but buying gc at the end of the tech change over is a bad idea... same goes with procs and ram... hahaha just like me buyin p4 few month b4 new breed of procs come out... hahaha.... buyin pc part for procs and ram, better buy it once after its release new tech and keep updated on new tech just to avoid the same situation... i bought my 76gt just a year b4 dx 10 come out but then i keep on changing gc one in 2 years.. hahaha

any way.. console can last u long enuff... haha if u dont mind the graphic at the long run...
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post Dec 16 2007, 02:18 AM

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at the moment the next gen console is having similar graphics compare to pc, dont take Crysis in lo

it all depends on the money u willing to spend, for the console now still able to deliver more pixels per dollar you paid. Xbox or PS3 can get at RM1.5k, but 8800GT already costs RM900, if add a C2D then RM1.5k finish already, and u still need money for mobo and RAM. And a PC bought at RM1.5k isn't for gaming at all.

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post Dec 16 2007, 05:54 AM

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Console VS PC always have their Advantages, and disadvantages. I played games and experienced both PC and consoles.

For consoles they are cheap yet gaining performance that is almost equal to higher priced PC. THe downside for consoles is the hardware are all static. It does not changes.

FOr PC, the disadvantages is of coz the price. But PC can be upgraded and again, the disadvantages is you have to spend more money. I am a PC gamer, and i choose PC for as my gaming platform coz it is multi purpose ( i can use it for my work, assignment, editing , GAMING and etc) and at the same time, I can mess around with the PC ( such as OCing, case modding ). And i believe most PC gamer dont mind to spend their money to upgrade their computer because, putting me as example, i dont mind upgrading my PC to gain top-notch graphics that current console can not get ( but later it will when new console out).But in order to get top-end experience, you also got to work top-end for the money haha. No pain, no gain nuff said.

But for games like arcade style i'd prefer consoles. For FPS,RTS,RPG,Third person shooter ( which i played the most ) i'd go for PC. Racing games is fine on both for me.

As for the question for the topic, of course PC is superior now.

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post Dec 16 2007, 07:26 AM

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ackkkk ...... why no one mentioned the Cell Processor?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_microprocessor

Said chip package was widely regarded to run at a clock speed of 4 GHz and with 32 APUs providing 32 GFLOPS each, the Broadband Engine was shown to have 1 teraflop of raw computing power.


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post Dec 16 2007, 04:01 PM

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I personally vote for PC.
Reason:
1. I can buy pc for gaming (and online game), surfing internet, writing source code and various apps that can be done on pc which ps3 has limited ability.

Anyway, PS3/ XBOX360 are sold under cost (MS/ sony loss money on console hardware) and they have far better processing power than a pc with same price tag.

About endless pc upgrade, that very much depends on how u think about it/ justify.
- Do u REALLY need frequent hardware upgrade (every year) or u can compromise with the middle/lower graphic effects/resolution.
- How u select PC parts when u buy pc so that it can lasts at least 2 years
- Will u be very upset if only 1 or 2 games which require higher pc specs cannot be supported while there are still a bunch o pc games that ur pc can support.

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post Dec 16 2007, 04:02 PM

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So far i only see Cell processor is better for calculating in-game physics becoz Cell proc hav better performance for floating point calculations. Btw, More GHz doesnt mean better performance than lower GHz. P4 3.0GHz losing so bad with AMD proc last time even it is 1.8GHz. Architecture for the proc determines the performance for the proc.

And one R&D team from japan just recently invented 3D transistors that may be able to produce 50GHz processor . Source http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/12/08/un..._3d_transistor/
http://www.techchee.com/2007/12/08/sgt-3d-...rs-clock-speed/
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post Dec 16 2007, 04:12 PM

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nowdays consoles good if it came with pirate blueray......blueray too $$ la ....10 game = 2000+ 1.3k(consoles) = 3.3k can get very good pc alredy =.='''
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post Dec 17 2007, 12:52 AM

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GeForce 8800 GTX

Back when Sony announced the specifications of the PlayStation 3, everyone asked if it meant the end of PC gaming. After all Cell looked very strong and NVIDIA's RSX GPU had tremendous power. We asked NVIDIA how long it would take until we saw a GPU faster than the RSX. Their answer: by the time the PS3 ships. So congratulations to NVIDIA for making the PS3 obsolete before it ever shipped, as G80 is truly a beast.


http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2870&p=29
and that was only for the 8800gtx (G80), now the (G92) base 8800 gt and gts and the ultimate ultra edition, playstation 3 is even further behind the pc in terms of the performance..

PC IS more powerful, no doubt about that, but the catch is it's an expensive option, powerful things come at a price, like produa myvi (ps3 is cheap but weak) vs Mitsubishi evo (a powerful computer but expensive)...

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post Dec 20 2007, 04:20 PM

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i like the uniformity introduced across all consoles. as opposed to the need to cater to different hardware specs for the pc games market


regardless to the fact that the RSX chip might not compete against the latest nvidia/radeo offerings, the games still appear fine to me.

and to the developers and publishers, they make more money making games for consoles anyway... more moeny = more interest = more games (better games, if u will)

go consoles
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post Dec 21 2007, 03:20 PM

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Next-Gen Consoles vs PC ( FOR GAMES )

It must be Next-Gen console. For pc, the hardware requirement is the main cause giving headches to gamers after a while. If people have money, they dont mind upgrade or buy a gaming pc for RM 3000 +. After few months, need to upgrade in order to play the latest and more demanding games. By first year, his pc rig should be outdated by motherboard technology.

For next gen console, we fork RM1500-RM2000 and enjoy the games until the next gen console comes out 5 years later. The PC guy should still have a outdated 5 years old computer.

For GAMING long run - NEXT GEN CONSOLE RULES.
FOR MULTIMEDIA - THE HUMBLE PC WILL SERVE ITS PURPOSE.

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This post has been edited by NaGeNaZ: Dec 21 2007, 03:24 PM

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