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 So if house burned due to EV, insurance won’t, Cover ?

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hjh87
post Today, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Dec 21 2025, 10:51 PM)
Ice car on fire also can claim insurance right?
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ICE vehicles have been in the market for a long time, so we often hear news about successful claims.

I’m just curious about EVs; although many cases have been reported in Malaysia, the claim outcomes are almost never made public.

I’d love to hear feedback from actual EV owners who have gone through this process. Is it possible that insurance companies set conditions or non-disclosure agreements that prevent owners from sharing details after a claim?
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post Today, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(junsheng @ Dec 22 2025, 12:59 AM)
do you even know what i'm talking about?  doh.gif
there's no ev that come with active load management
the ev don't know how much load your house is currently dynamically using

regardless of how many A, if you're near the max limit, it's going to overload the circuit
to solve this issue is to use ev charger that come with active load management
it monitors household demand and automatically throttles charging allowed to the ev
so the total stays within the main breaker limit, single phase is 63 - 65A, 3 phase 100A with 33.33A individually

i still haven't talk about earthing requirements, pen faults, the use of proper rccd type & rated for ev charging yet
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Some el cheapo installers are doing stupid shits like.
1. Use type AC Rccb ( instead of type A)
2. Upgrade tnb fuse to 100A to prevent fuse burn(only ok if wiring can support it. Most houses are not able to suport this
3. Direct tap from meter bypassing the main MCB and leaving protection to the tnb fuse only. Couple with method 2 and its a perfect recipe for disaster.


Other risks
1.some old houses have degraded incoming tnb cables. Even at 25mm2 with load balanced charger, there was a fire event.
2. Loose connection on tnb neutral block, incoming junction box with elevated temperature.

Expect more incoming tnb issues and insurance refusing coverage. Most people have no clue about all this
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Buy insurance time sky also can promise. Claim time this cannot, that cannot.
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post Today, 08:59 AM

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Why still got ppl date to buy EV.
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post Today, 09:03 AM

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Owner want to pinpoint to the EV cars...but EV manufacturers says "Eh Jangan.."

Owner want to pinpoint to the house...but sked the house insurance coverage cannot cover the loss of the 2 EVs.

Kesian the owner for being bodo..brows.gif
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QUOTE(crewmy @ Dec 21 2025, 05:31 PM)
Beli la lagi EV dengan risiko kebakaran dia. Powerbank kecik pun ada risiko, ini kan pulak bateri besau macam EV punye.
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simpan la bodo tu
kebakaran ICE are happening inside the house every now and then

jgan la jadi katak bawah tempurung
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post Today, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(RT8081 @ Dec 21 2025, 05:19 PM)
why use hpuse insurance? use the car insurance to repair the house
the car insurance not just cover the other party vehicle, it is also cover the property damage.
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post Today, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(hjh87 @ Dec 22 2025, 08:42 AM)
ICE vehicles have been in the market for a long time, so we often hear news about successful claims.

I’m just curious about EVs; although many cases have been reported in Malaysia, the claim outcomes are almost never made public.

I’d love to hear feedback from actual EV owners who have gone through this process. Is it possible that insurance companies set conditions or non-disclosure agreements that prevent owners from sharing details after a claim?
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Boleh la

Remember than iman kamil reckless driving and accident case. Went viral and almost everyone thought insurance will deny his claim.

1 year later he made another post said insurance approved his claim and will be repairing his car

This post has been edited by Boy96: Today, 09:24 AM
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post Today, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(ulet @ Dec 22 2025, 09:20 AM)
why use hpuse insurance? use the car insurance to repair the house
the car insurance not just cover the other party vehicle, it is also cover the property damage.
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Ah was not aware of that. Thanks
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where in ss2 is this?

I am renting in SS2, the houses are 40 50 years old, if no renovation has been done, the old house's power cannot support modern requirements and will trip consistently. I have to manually phase usage like only 1 instant water heater at a time, upstairs room light will fickle is downstairs is on. My neighbour renting even can smell burning smell, moved out few months dispute with owner.

Yes, single phase should be able to use ev, just lower capacity.
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QUOTE(RT8081 @ Dec 21 2025, 05:19 PM)
I think the post made it very obvious

House insurance claim Fire insurance
EV claim car insurance
Charger claim charger insurance

what is the fuse?

Tak kan you want EV insurance covered all?
Charger insurance covered all?
or FIRE insurance covered all?
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QUOTE(submergedx @ Dec 22 2025, 09:37 AM)
I think the post made it very obvious

House insurance claim Fire insurance
EV claim car insurance
Charger claim charger insurance

what is the fuse?

Tak kan you want EV insurance covered all?
Charger insurance covered all?
or FIRE insurance covered all?
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nope, if the fire is from the car's fault
the car insurance will cover the car and and property damage.
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What are the covers / benefits provided?
This certificate covers:
• Third party bodily injury and death;
• Third party property loss or damage; and
• Loss or damage to your own vehicle due to accidental fire, theft, or accident.

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post Today, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(ulet @ Dec 22 2025, 09:43 AM)
nope, if the fire is from the car's fault
the car insurance will cover the car and and property damage.
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Currently the investigation are pointing wiring/charger issue.
Car has no fault yo
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post Today, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(TOMEI-R @ Dec 21 2025, 05:28 PM)
No 1 requirement before you buy and EV is that you have 3 phase wiring at your home. Proper installation of a wall charger is a must. Many house owners don't even have home insurance.
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It has nothing to do with wall charger in this case.

You do know wall charger is just a glorifed switch manager right?
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QUOTE(ulet @ Dec 22 2025, 09:20 AM)
why use hpuse insurance? use the car insurance to repair the house
the car insurance not just cover the other party vehicle, it is also cover the property damage.
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Caused by road accident, yes no doubt. Is damage caused while charging by an external device/source consider as the same class of insured?

This post has been edited by jojolicia: Today, 09:59 AM
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post Today, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(submergedx @ Dec 22 2025, 09:37 AM)
I think the post made it very obvious

House insurance claim Fire insurance
EV claim car insurance
Charger claim charger insurance

what is the fuse?

Tak kan you want EV insurance covered all?
Charger insurance covered all?
or FIRE insurance covered all?
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EV insurance cover all, from wall plug until the car. But if u appoint no ST license punya contractor then gg.

QUOTE(submergedx @ Dec 22 2025, 09:50 AM)
Currently the investigation are pointing wiring/charger issue.
Car has no fault yo
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If not mistaken wall plug is still under the car insurance coverage
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post Today, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(hjh87 @ Dec 22 2025, 08:42 AM)
ICE vehicles have been in the market for a long time, so we often hear news about successful claims.

I’m just curious about EVs; although many cases have been reported in Malaysia, the claim outcomes are almost never made public.

I’d love to hear feedback from actual EV owners who have gone through this process. Is it possible that insurance companies set conditions or non-disclosure agreements that prevent owners from sharing details after a claim?
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Insurance will pay out if there is no modification on the critical parts that could cause fire like ice cars.

And i dont think owner would like to brag that they have successfully claim the insurance. You only can hear noise if they couldn't claim it

QUOTE(yhtan @ Dec 22 2025, 10:00 AM)
EV insurance cover all, from wall plug until the car. But if u appoint no ST license punya contractor then gg.
If not mistaken wall plug is still under the car insurance coverage
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Some car insurance like berjaya sompo have coverage like up to rm10k if wall charger on fire but i wondering other home appliance like aircond can catch fire too so why is it different compare to home charger. Hmm
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QUOTE(ulet @ Dec 22 2025, 09:43 AM)
nope, if the fire is from the car's fault
the car insurance will cover the car and and property damage.
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this is wrong, it says "Third Party Property", your house is not third party, it's first party. If today your car crash into other people's house then yes it's payable.

Your own House fire must come under your own home insurance.

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