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 Japan accuse China J15 of radar lock their F15

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pinamorita
post Dec 10 2025, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(red_satu @ Dec 9 2025, 05:08 PM)
Why should they counter? Why reveal capabilities to PLAAF?

These exercises is done by China to gauge their neighbours capabilities (see the entire Cold War dickswinging whenever there's an airspace intrusion).

ASDF knows better than to evade a radar lock during peace time. Make it into a diplomatic incident and having it locked on for 30 minutes is proof that PLAAF was doing it deliberately.
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Dec 9 2025, 05:28 PM)
This radar signal may has picked up by AWAC.

During conflict, f-15 would manoeuvre or countermeasures to break contact.
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During war time the situation will be different, the F-15 pilots will be unaware their jets got radar locked when china's jet AESA radar will be on frequency jumping/stealth mode
same like how bharatian rafale pilot didn't even realized his wingman got shot down, no warning beeping, radar shows nothing.

This is the showcase of china's air superiority and it's peer to peer combat proven.
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post Dec 10 2025, 09:12 AM

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china has not fought any WARS in 70 years, not sure if they battle ready?
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post Dec 10 2025, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(30624770 @ Dec 9 2025, 01:02 PM)
They wrote Art of War and do you think they are not something they are good at?
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Everyone have a plan until they got punch no?
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post Dec 10 2025, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(11c @ Dec 10 2025, 09:12 AM)
china has not fought any WARS in 70 years, not sure if they battle ready?
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Men with balls win wars, china is the first nation using just infantry without artillery, tanks and jets can whack much superior US and 17 nations.

Is light infantry still effective in modern warfare? Yes the afghan farmers did it again in recent years.

US with the most 'superior' military in the world for 20 years can't win the war against the afghan with balls, AK and sandals. Experience of losing?


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QUOTE(pinamorita @ Dec 10 2025, 09:09 AM)
During war time the situation will be different, the F-15 pilots will be unaware their jets got radar locked when china's jet AESA radar will be on frequency jumping/stealth mode
same like how bharatian rafale pilot didn't even realized his wingman got shot down, no warning beeping, radar shows nothing.

This is the showcase of china's air superiority and it's peer to peer combat proven.
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radar signal couldn't be stealth. frequency jumping is normal.

paf may has deployed unused/new frequency which iaf didn't have record or aware. hence, failed to realize the threat, or iaf pilot was distracted.


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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Dec 10 2025, 09:44 AM)
radar signal couldn't be stealth. frequency jumping is normal.

paf may has deployed unused/new frequency which iaf didn't have record or aware. hence, failed to realize the threat.
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frequency pattern can be randomized/changed even if bharatian got intel on past frequency
that's the uniqueness of AESA radar on 'stealth mode' and even the PL-15 a missile is fitted with a mini AESA radar
when many other countries air force can't afford AESA on their jets
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QUOTE(mac_mac21 @ Dec 10 2025, 09:27 AM)
Everyone have a plan until they got punch no?
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they don't know the diff between pakai mulut je vs actual war lol
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QUOTE(pinamorita @ Dec 10 2025, 10:09 AM)
frequency pattern can be randomized/changed even if bharatian got intel on past frequency
that's the uniqueness of AESA radar on 'stealth mode' and even the PL-15 a missile is fitted with a mini AESA radar
when many other countries air force can't afford AESA on their jets
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radar by default couldn't be stealth. the pal pl-15 missile was likely guided by awac or launch aircraft and only turned on its own active radar at the last minute.

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Dec 10 2025, 10:15 AM)
radar by default couldn't be stealth. the pal pl-15 missile was likely guided by awac or launch aircraft and only turned on its own active radar at the last minute.
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that's why japan F-15 pilot knew he got locked for 30 mins when J-15 radar not in stealth mode
'stealth' means not even the 5th gen jets is 100% stealth same goes to AESA radar
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ignore the fake training exercise . china just bombs all JAP air bases with hypersonic missiles during real conflict .
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post Dec 10 2025, 10:57 AM

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Yes, the paradigm shift is fully displayed in Ukraine. It seems that Western military planners are still slow to adapt. Maybe ours too. This is the age of hypersonics and drones. All those fancy aircrafts can fly but will have no airbase to return to once the shooting starts.
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QUOTE(pinamorita @ Dec 10 2025, 10:29 AM)
that's why japan F-15 pilot knew he got locked for 30 mins when J-15 radar not in stealth mode
'stealth' means not even the 5th gen jets is 100% stealth same goes to AESA radar
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radar by default is not stealth.

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QUOTE(ps3 fanboy @ Dec 10 2025, 04:12 PM)

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QUOTE(11c @ Dec 10 2025, 09:12 AM)
china has not fought any WARS in 70 years, not sure if they battle ready?
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Russia, US & China has not fought any REAL WAR against peer competitor.
All those war they fight is either against some 3rd World country (Land, Air & Sea) or some goat herder wearing sandal (Land)

Real war would be across 7 domains: Land, Air, Sea, Cyber (Shutdown: Electric, Water, Comm, Banking, Transport & etc) , Electro Magnetic Spectrum, Near Space, Outer Space.
It would involved the usage of Drone, Autonomous vehicle, AI, Robotic, Hypersonic, Nuclear Submarine, Cyberspace, Hacker, Biotech, Satellite, Electromagnetic, BVR, Stealth & etc to neutralized the enemy. Boot on the ground is only for mopping up & secured the area, after it has been remotely neutralized.

No one ever have the experience fighting this kind of war.
A glimpse usage of BVR is the recent Pakistan-India War (Only Pakistan have the BVR tech)
A glimpse usage of Drone is the Russia-Ukraine War. (Both side also used Drone)

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Too advance got auto lock mode feature

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QUOTE(11c @ Dec 10 2025, 09:12 AM)
china has not fought any WARS in 70 years, not sure if they battle ready?
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I tot US & Western painted China are big bad wolf fighting with everyone all the time laugh.gif

opps... it actually they themselves are doing it past 70 years whistling.gif

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post Dec 11 2025, 10:01 AM

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