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 Japan accuse China J15 of radar lock their F15

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QUOTE(30624770 @ Dec 9 2025, 01:02 PM)
They wrote Art of War and do you think they are not something they are good at?
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If they are good and Art of War is so good why there were so many wars in China in the past thousands years?
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post Dec 9 2025, 03:20 PM

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They run out of tanks and using infantry assault now. Riding on the blood of its young men. Even using women now.

Keep updated.
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https://euromaidanpress.com/2025/12/02/russ...rce=chatgpt.com

(euromaiden press is a ukraine press which has a pro EU stance) just for context.

Russia has more armored vehicles now than in 2022. The math is ugly. (the title of the article-reported last week)

The upshot is that the Russians had 20,000 vehicles in February 2022. 45 months later, they have 21,000.

"Russia is not exhausting its armored reserves," explained analyst Delwin, who crunched the numbers. "Modeling forward with constant 2025 loss levels and stable new production, the total fleet remains above 2022 levels through at least 2030."

A handful of $500 FPVs can knock out a million-dollar tank. FPV drones have been responsible for destroying more than two-thirds of Russian tanks in recent months. Now tanks on both sides of Russia's wider war on Ukraine usually stay far behind the front line, hiding in underground dugouts and only occasionally rolling out to fire a few cannon rounds from kilometers away. Tanks are far less central to Russian battlefield doctrine than they were just four years ago.


Russia dont send in tanks anymore because tanks are no longer suitable for modern warfare.
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QUOTE(brian81st @ Dec 9 2025, 03:20 PM)
https://euromaidanpress.com/2025/12/02/russ...rce=chatgpt.com

(euromaiden press is a ukraine press which has a pro EU stance) just for context.

Russia has more armored vehicles now than in 2022. The math is ugly. (the title of the article-reported last week)

The upshot is that the Russians had 20,000 vehicles in February 2022. 45 months later, they have 21,000.

"Russia is not exhausting its armored reserves," explained analyst Delwin, who crunched the numbers. "Modeling forward with constant 2025 loss levels and stable new production, the total fleet remains above 2022 levels through at least 2030."

A handful of $500 FPVs can knock out a million-dollar tank. FPV drones have been responsible for destroying more than two-thirds of Russian tanks in recent months. Now tanks on both sides of Russia's wider war on Ukraine usually stay far behind the front line, hiding in underground dugouts and only occasionally rolling out to fire a few cannon rounds from kilometers away. Tanks are far less central to Russian battlefield doctrine than they were just four years ago.
Russia dont send in tanks anymore because tanks are no longer suitable for modern warfare.
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Blah blah blah. 3 days war turned into 30 years war still won't enough.

Maybe need 300 years.
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war will not happened yet, until Trump comes visit next year, no greenlight yet from Xi. Just like Deng visit US and met the US president back then, after that Vietnam got beaten.
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post Dec 9 2025, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(red_satu @ Dec 9 2025, 03:17 PM)
How you come to that conclusion about the F-15 capabilities?
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QUOTE(pinamorita @ Dec 9 2025, 02:14 PM)
151-0 record

but US air force often fought in non peer to peer combat
most 4th generation F-15 kills are 3th generation soviet jets which flew without AWACS & EW aircraft
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Cause the west often overhyped their weapons in media for decades
Look at how the cheapest made in china temu jet J-10 can so easily jammed and shoot down few $300M a piece advanced rafale jets with no reply

And now happen again to japan's F-15 but luckily no PL-15 missile got warmed up
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QUOTE(tokroni76 @ Dec 9 2025, 03:23 PM)
Red China is due with another beatdown

The next Rape of Nanking  2.0 will be epic

In 4K resolution and streaming to your phone
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my my... what a nasty thought...

thank god for the americans back in ww2 with the bombs then.
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ccp cakap no1 only, say want take back taiwan how many years already whistling.gif
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CCP jets so powerful meh?
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QUOTE(HumanExtinction @ Dec 9 2025, 03:38 PM)
ccp cakap no1 only, say want take back taiwan how many years already  whistling.gif
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Taiwan's birth rate is extremely low, with a crude birth rate of 5.76 per 1,000 people in 2024 and a total fertility rate of 0.85 to 1.11 children per woman in recent years, depending on the source.
This marks the ninth consecutive year of decline and contributes to an aging population. Factors contributing to this trend include high living costs, workplace stress, and changing gender expectations.


don't worry taiwan is dying on their own quietly
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QUOTE(tokroni76 @ Dec 9 2025, 03:23 PM)
Red China is due with another beatdown

The next Rape of Nanking  2.0 will be epic

In 4K resolution and streaming to your phone
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More like china be the 2nd country nuking japan this time lol


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QUOTE(HumanExtinction @ Dec 9 2025, 03:38 PM)
ccp cakap no1 only, say want take back taiwan how many years already  whistling.gif
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yea, can't even take back taiwan for so many years
only keep saying only

pakai mulut je siape pun boleh
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post Dec 9 2025, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(pinamorita @ Dec 9 2025, 03:35 PM)
Cause the west often overhyped their weapons in media for decades
Look at how the cheapest made in china temu jet J-10 can so easily jammed and shoot down few $300M a piece advanced rafale jets with no reply

And now happen again to japan's F-15 but luckily no PL-15 missile got warmed up
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No, you said EW or F-15 radar was inferior. But there's no reason for F-15 to disrupt or avoid that radar lock in the first place.
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post Dec 9 2025, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(red_satu @ Dec 9 2025, 04:34 PM)
No, you said EW or F-15 radar was inferior. But there's no reason for F-15 to disrupt or avoid that radar lock in the first place.
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I'm not saying it's inferior, it is inferior

The 2nd F-15 got radar locked for 30 minutes, imagine got pointed at the head by a gun for 30 minutes
and you got the tools to counter but can't

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post Dec 9 2025, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(pinamorita @ Dec 9 2025, 04:57 PM)
I'm not saying it's inferior, it is inferior

The 2nd F-15 got radar locked for 30 minutes, imagine got pointed at the head by a gun for 30 minutes
and you got the tools to counter but can't
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Why should they counter? Why reveal capabilities to PLAAF?

These exercises is done by China to gauge their neighbours capabilities (see the entire Cold War dickswinging whenever there's an airspace intrusion).

ASDF knows better than to evade a radar lock during peace time. Make it into a diplomatic incident and having it locked on for 30 minutes is proof that PLAAF was doing it deliberately.
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QUOTE(red_satu @ Dec 9 2025, 05:08 PM)
Why should they counter? Why reveal capabilities to PLAAF?

These exercises is done by China to gauge their neighbours capabilities (see the entire Cold War dickswinging whenever there's an airspace intrusion).

ASDF knows better than to evade a radar lock during peace time. Make it into a diplomatic incident and having it locked on for 30 minutes is proof that PLAAF was doing it deliberately.
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I don't think you understand what it means to have your plane being target locked for 30 min. The pilot basically died God knows how many times. And it also shows how weak Japan air defence is.

Letting its defence jet being target this way for 30 minutes without more reinforcement.

30 min friend. 30 min. Even a ballistic missile sent would have arrived at its target rite?

Btw, I am talking like how western movies indicated. Haha.
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QUOTE(pinamorita @ Dec 9 2025, 04:57 PM)
I'm not saying it's inferior, it is inferior

The 2nd F-15 got radar locked for 30 minutes, imagine got pointed at the head by a gun for 30 minutes
and you got the tools to counter but can't
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This radar signal may has picked up by AWAC.

During conflict, f-15 would manoeuvre or countermeasures to break contact.



This post has been edited by icemanfx: Dec 9 2025, 05:32 PM
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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Dec 9 2025, 05:12 PM)
I don't think you understand what it means to have your plane being target locked for 30 min. The pilot basically died God knows how many times. And it also shows how weak Japan air defence is.

Letting its defence jet being target this way for 30 minutes without more reinforcement.

30 min friend. 30 min. Even a ballistic missile sent would have arrived at its target rite?

Btw, I am talking like how western movies indicated. Haha.
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Why evade though? Was the pilot ever at risk of being fired upon by PLAAF during the confrontation?

Is China that trigger happy?
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post Dec 9 2025, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(red_satu @ Dec 9 2025, 05:57 PM)
Why evade though? Was the pilot ever at risk of being fired upon by PLAAF during the confrontation?

Is China that trigger happy?
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Haha. If more countries military Generals are like you. The world will be super peaceful.

Or those countries will be taken over. Haha.

Next game, the big bully will go to hokkaido and fly fly here and there.

Edit: oh yeah. I just realized what you said is like what our defense minister said back then about MH370.
That begs the question. Why Japan scrambled their jets to begin with.
Our defense minister was much smarter. Haha.

This post has been edited by Wedchar2912: Dec 9 2025, 06:09 PM

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