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pinamorita
post Dec 9 2025, 01:48 PM

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The 2nd F15 got radar locked for 30 minutes
looks like US made radar and EW are also no match for china's radar system

same situation like french rafale

pinamorita
post Dec 9 2025, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(Autocountstick @ Dec 9 2025, 01:54 PM)
lock mereka balik susah?
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japan F-15 radar already jammed macam blind man walking
pinamorita
post Dec 9 2025, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(commonsense @ Dec 9 2025, 01:57 PM)
fuyoh, F15 never get shot down before i think. getting locked is a big thing. japanese better don't memalukan F15 legacy woi
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151-0 record

but US air force often fought in non peer to peer combat
most 4th generation F-15 kills are 3th generation soviet jets which flew without AWACS & EW aircraft
pinamorita
post Dec 9 2025, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(commonsense @ Dec 9 2025, 02:16 PM)
those record mostly contributed by IDF
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yes MIG-21 & 23 kills
pinamorita
post Dec 9 2025, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(red_satu @ Dec 9 2025, 03:17 PM)
How you come to that conclusion about the F-15 capabilities?
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QUOTE(pinamorita @ Dec 9 2025, 02:14 PM)
151-0 record

but US air force often fought in non peer to peer combat
most 4th generation F-15 kills are 3th generation soviet jets which flew without AWACS & EW aircraft
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Cause the west often overhyped their weapons in media for decades
Look at how the cheapest made in china temu jet J-10 can so easily jammed and shoot down few $300M a piece advanced rafale jets with no reply

And now happen again to japan's F-15 but luckily no PL-15 missile got warmed up
pinamorita
post Dec 9 2025, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(HumanExtinction @ Dec 9 2025, 03:38 PM)
ccp cakap no1 only, say want take back taiwan how many years already  whistling.gif
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Taiwan's birth rate is extremely low, with a crude birth rate of 5.76 per 1,000 people in 2024 and a total fertility rate of 0.85 to 1.11 children per woman in recent years, depending on the source.
This marks the ninth consecutive year of decline and contributes to an aging population. Factors contributing to this trend include high living costs, workplace stress, and changing gender expectations.


don't worry taiwan is dying on their own quietly
pinamorita
post Dec 9 2025, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(tokroni76 @ Dec 9 2025, 03:23 PM)
Red China is due with another beatdown

The next Rape of Nanking  2.0 will be epic

In 4K resolution and streaming to your phone
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More like china be the 2nd country nuking japan this time lol


pinamorita
post Dec 9 2025, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(red_satu @ Dec 9 2025, 04:34 PM)
No, you said EW or F-15 radar was inferior. But there's no reason for F-15 to disrupt or avoid that radar lock in the first place.
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I'm not saying it's inferior, it is inferior

The 2nd F-15 got radar locked for 30 minutes, imagine got pointed at the head by a gun for 30 minutes
and you got the tools to counter but can't

pinamorita
post Dec 10 2025, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(red_satu @ Dec 9 2025, 05:08 PM)
Why should they counter? Why reveal capabilities to PLAAF?

These exercises is done by China to gauge their neighbours capabilities (see the entire Cold War dickswinging whenever there's an airspace intrusion).

ASDF knows better than to evade a radar lock during peace time. Make it into a diplomatic incident and having it locked on for 30 minutes is proof that PLAAF was doing it deliberately.
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Dec 9 2025, 05:28 PM)
This radar signal may has picked up by AWAC.

During conflict, f-15 would manoeuvre or countermeasures to break contact.
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During war time the situation will be different, the F-15 pilots will be unaware their jets got radar locked when china's jet AESA radar will be on frequency jumping/stealth mode
same like how bharatian rafale pilot didn't even realized his wingman got shot down, no warning beeping, radar shows nothing.

This is the showcase of china's air superiority and it's peer to peer combat proven.
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post Dec 10 2025, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(11c @ Dec 10 2025, 09:12 AM)
china has not fought any WARS in 70 years, not sure if they battle ready?
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Men with balls win wars, china is the first nation using just infantry without artillery, tanks and jets can whack much superior US and 17 nations.

Is light infantry still effective in modern warfare? Yes the afghan farmers did it again in recent years.

US with the most 'superior' military in the world for 20 years can't win the war against the afghan with balls, AK and sandals. Experience of losing?


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post Dec 10 2025, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Dec 10 2025, 09:44 AM)
radar signal couldn't be stealth. frequency jumping is normal.

paf may has deployed unused/new frequency which iaf didn't have record or aware. hence, failed to realize the threat.
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frequency pattern can be randomized/changed even if bharatian got intel on past frequency
that's the uniqueness of AESA radar on 'stealth mode' and even the PL-15 a missile is fitted with a mini AESA radar
when many other countries air force can't afford AESA on their jets
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post Dec 10 2025, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Dec 10 2025, 10:15 AM)
radar by default couldn't be stealth. the pal pl-15 missile was likely guided by awac or launch aircraft and only turned on its own active radar at the last minute.
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that's why japan F-15 pilot knew he got locked for 30 mins when J-15 radar not in stealth mode
'stealth' means not even the 5th gen jets is 100% stealth same goes to AESA radar

 

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